Valve adjustment on 3208 Engine

[Jon]

After reading in my 3208 tech manual I took notice that the vlv lash
adjustment is stated in the manual to be completed every 24,000 miles
and if the engine is not run for six months it should be done again. I
just wonder how many people do this? especially if there rig has not
been ran for six months.

Well anyway oft to the shop with the Rebel Bird Monday to have have old
vlv adjusted and will drop another $400 dollars for that opperation.
Owell as they say "You can't take it with you"

Jon
78 wanderlodge
Rebel Bird

[Tom Warner]

Interesting Jon. What is the date on your Cat 3208 manual. My factory
manual says to check the valve lash at first 250 hours and then after
2000 hours or 10,000 gallons of fuel. That equates to approximately
80,000 miles. This is part of caterpillars Maintenance Management Schedule.

tom Warner
Vernon Center, NY
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1985 PT40

At 12:21 AM 3/25/2006, you wrote:
>After reading in my 3208 tech manual I took notice that the vlv lash
>adjustment is stated in the manual to be completed every 24,000 miles
>and if the engine is not run for six months it should be done again. I
>just wonder how many people do this? especially if there rig has not
>been ran for six months.
>
>Well anyway oft to the shop with the Rebel Bird Monday to have have old
>vlv adjusted and will drop another $400 dollars for that opperation.
>Owell as they say "You can't take it with you"
>
>Jon
>78 wanderlodge
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[Jon]

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wrote:
>
> Interesting Jon. What is the date on your Cat 3208 manual. My
factory
> manual says to check the valve lash at first 250 hours and then
after
> 2000 hours or 10,000 gallons of fuel. That equates to approximately
> 80,000 miles. This is part of caterpillars Maintenance Management
Schedule.
>
> tom Warner
> Vernon Center, NY
> 1982 FC35
> 1985 PT40
>
> At 12:21 AM 3/25/2006, you wrote:
> >After reading in my 3208 tech manual I took notice that the vlv
lash
> >adjustment is stated in the manual to be completed every 24,000
miles
> >and if the engine is not run for six months it should be done
again. I
> >just wonder how many people do this? especially if there rig has
not
> >been ran for six months.
> >
> >Well anyway oft to the shop with the Rebel Bird Monday to have
have old
> >vlv adjusted and will drop another $400 dollars for that
opperation.
> >Owell as they say "You can't take it with you"
> >
> >Jon
> >78 wanderlodge
> >Rebel Bird


This page that states the Valve Lash adjustment is from Page 47 in
the Service Manual 3208 Diesel Truck Engine
Serial Numbers 40S1-up

Also just was wondering has anyone ever tried to adjust this Valve
Lash setting without taking oft the frount end?? I know it might be a
bear but can it be done???

Jon
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[davidkerryedwards]

I haven't done any valve work on the CAT but I have worked on valves
on front engined gas motorhomes. I don't see why the front end needs
to be removed. It looks to me as if only the top and sides of the
dogouse need to be removed to access the valve covers. Perhaps there
is more to a valve lash adjustment on a CAT than I imagine. If so,
could someone explain what else needs to be accessed besides the
valves themselves under the valve covers?

Kerry
82 FC 35
Denver


> Also just was wondering has anyone ever tried to adjust this Valve
> Lash setting without taking oft the frount end?? I know it might be a
> bear but can it be done???
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> Jon
> 78 Wanderlodge
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[Tom Warner]

Jon the factory manual that I have is Caterpillar Operation &
Maintenance manual SEBU6315 dated May 1992. It is for Cat 3208 from
40S1-UP, 99R1-UP,32Y1-UP, 2Z1-UP, 51Z1-UP.

Be advised that Caterpillar also changed the amount of oil that the
engine held and reduced them by 2 quarts.

Tom Warner
Vernon Center,NY

At 01:10 PM 3/25/2006, you wrote:
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
>wrote:
> >
> > Interesting Jon. What is the date on your Cat 3208 manual. My
>factory
> > manual says to check the valve lash at first 250 hours and then
>after
> > 2000 hours or 10,000 gallons of fuel. That equates to approximately
> > 80,000 miles. This is part of caterpillars Maintenance Management
>Schedule.
> >
> > tom Warner
> > Vernon Center, NY
> > 1982 FC35
> > 1985 PT40
> >
> > At 12:21 AM 3/25/2006, you wrote:
> > >After reading in my 3208 tech manual I took notice that the vlv
>lash
> > >adjustment is stated in the manual to be completed every 24,000
>miles
> > >and if the engine is not run for six months it should be done
>again. I
> > >just wonder how many people do this? especially if there rig has
>not
> > >been ran for six months.
> > >
> > >Well anyway oft to the shop with the Rebel Bird Monday to have
>have old
> > >vlv adjusted and will drop another $400 dollars for that
>opperation.
> > >Owell as they say "You can't take it with you"
> > >
> > >Jon
> > >78 wanderlodge
> > >Rebel Bird
>
>
>This page that states the Valve Lash adjustment is from Page 47 in
>the Service Manual 3208 Diesel Truck Engine
>Serial Numbers 40S1-up
>
>Also just was wondering has anyone ever tried to adjust this Valve
>Lash setting without taking oft the frount end?? I know it might be a
>bear but can it be done???
>
>Jon
>78 Wanderlodge
>Bremerton Washington
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[Mike Hohnstein]

Get the valve covers off and adjust like any other engine. Exhaust almost open
adjust the intake. Intake almost closed adjust the exhaust. Do one cylinder at
a time. You bump the engine over with the starter so you need to disconnect the
fuel solinoid first, or use a remote button arrangement. Of course Cat has a
different method, but I get by with the old drag racer way.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: davidkerryedwards
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Valve adjustment on 3208 Engine


I haven't done any valve work on the CAT but I have worked on valves
on front engined gas motorhomes. I don't see why the front end needs
to be removed. It looks to me as if only the top and sides of the
dogouse need to be removed to access the valve covers. Perhaps there
is more to a valve lash adjustment on a CAT than I imagine. If so,
could someone explain what else needs to be accessed besides the
valves themselves under the valve covers?

Kerry
82 FC 35
Denver


> Also just was wondering has anyone ever tried to adjust this Valve
> Lash setting without taking oft the frount end?? I know it might be a
> bear but can it be done???
>
> Jon
> 78 Wanderlodge
> Bremerton Washington
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> wrote:
> >
> > Interesting Jon. What is the date on your Cat 3208 manual. My
> factory
> > manual says to check the valve lash at first 250 hours and then
> after
> > 2000 hours or 10,000 gallons of fuel. That equates to
approximately
> > 80,000 miles. This is part of caterpillars Maintenance Management
> Schedule.
> >
> > tom Warner
> > Vernon Center, NY
> > 1982 FC35
> > 1985 PT40
> >
> > At 12:21 AM 3/25/2006, you wrote:
> > >After reading in my 3208 tech manual I took notice that the vlv
> lash
> > >adjustment is stated in the manual to be completed every 24,000
> miles
> > >and if the engine is not run for six months it should be done
> again. I
> > >just wonder how many people do this? especially if there rig has
> not
> > >been ran for six months.
> > >
> > >Well anyway oft to the shop with the Rebel Bird Monday to have
> have old
> > >vlv adjusted and will drop another $400 dollars for that
> opperation.
> > >Owell as they say "You can't take it with you"
> > >
> > >Jon
> > >78 wanderlodge
> > >Rebel Bird
>
>
> This page that states the Valve Lash adjustment is from Page 47 in
> the Service Manual 3208 Diesel Truck Engine
> Serial Numbers 40S1-up
>
> Also just was wondering has anyone ever tried to adjust this Valve
> Lash setting without taking oft the frount end?? I know it might be
a
> bear but can it be done???
>
> Jon
> 78 Wanderlodge
> Bremerton Washington
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>I have three engine manuals for the 3208 engine and it states in one
of my other manuals that at the PM Level 2-Every 1200 Service Hours
or 1 year or ------KM(-----------Miles, Whichever occurs first. Now
1200 service hours at 55 mph is 66,000 thousand miles. Boy which one
do you deal with?? The first one that states 24,000 miles or the
second one that states 1200 service hours? Need some type of answer?
ALSO STATES THAT THIS IS FOR ENGINES PRE-1986. All three books are
put out by Caterpillar.

Tom what book do you have?

Jon
1978 Wanderlodge
Bremerton Washington

[Gary Miller]

Jon,

I would think if you can get a wrench on the crank pulley bolt that
will fit between the pulley and radiator, you could readily turn the
engine from lying under the front bumper area. You won't be able to
see the timing mark to determine TDC since I believe it is on the
block near the top area of the pulley, but you can probably make a
pretty good guess at it from the position of the valves, or use a
mirror or something.

It's rather important to get the first set at TDC and position the
crank pulley from there for the other adjustments. Perhaps by going
back and forth a little with the pulley and making several checks
before moving on, you can ensure you've found the exact point of max
gap measurement and make your adjustment if needed, then move on.

The hardest part as I see it will be going from lying on your back
under the coach to standing over the engine time after time. It can
wear you down. When I did my engine mounts it seemed like that
process would never end, I slept well afterwards.

I'm thinking it's a 1-1/4" socket that will fit that pulley nut.

Good Luck,

Gary Miller
83 FC 33
Wauwatosa, WI

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" wrote:
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Tom Warner
> wrote:
> >
> > Interesting Jon. What is the date on your Cat 3208 manual. My
> factory
> > manual says to check the valve lash at first 250 hours and then
> after
> > 2000 hours or 10,000 gallons of fuel. That equates to
approximately
> > 80,000 miles. This is part of caterpillars Maintenance
Management
> Schedule.
> >
> > tom Warner
> > Vernon Center, NY
> > 1982 FC35
> > 1985 PT40
> >
> > At 12:21 AM 3/25/2006, you wrote:
> > >After reading in my 3208 tech manual I took notice that the vlv
> lash
> > >adjustment is stated in the manual to be completed every 24,000
> miles
> > >and if the engine is not run for six months it should be done
> again. I
> > >just wonder how many people do this? especially if there rig
has
> not
> > >been ran for six months.
> > >
> > >Well anyway oft to the shop with the Rebel Bird Monday to have
> have old
> > >vlv adjusted and will drop another $400 dollars for that
> opperation.
> > >Owell as they say "You can't take it with you"
> > >
> > >Jon
> > >78 wanderlodge
> > >Rebel Bird
>
>
> This page that states the Valve Lash adjustment is from Page 47 in
> the Service Manual 3208 Diesel Truck Engine
> Serial Numbers 40S1-up
>
> Also just was wondering has anyone ever tried to adjust this Valve
> Lash setting without taking oft the frount end?? I know it might
be a
> bear but can it be done???
>
> Jon
> 78 Wanderlodge
> Bremerton Washington
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[Jon]

Well today I just installed a new Costco Car shelter for the Rebel
Bird. I have gone through this process before for my Winnebago's and
its fairly simple to do. The only thing wrong with this shelter is
that's it on 20 ft long. Probably someone out there is wondering
about the height being to short. Well I have resolved that problem by
putting on extensions on the legs of the shelter and it sits at the
middle I guess around 13 to 14 feet. It kind of skinny as its only
11 foot wide but that's ok as I still have a good foot and half on
both sides. The length issue is simple and that is just to get
another white tarp and drape it from the front and back of the
shelter to the bus. This Costco shelter is about the cheapest way I
know of to protect my bird and like I said before I have used this
idea before.

Oh yes tomorrow I'm going to climb around the front of the Rebel Bird
and see just how hard it would be to do those vlvs in place. Hay I
oust to be a Marine Machinist and if I can work on a Submarine with
no space I sure can work on this!

Jon
Rebel Bird
Bremerton Washington

[Rob Robinson]

Jon just one thing. I once covered a 12ft aluminium boat with a blue tarp and
didn't secure it tight enough all the way around. To make a long story short
the wind whipped one end of the tarp back and forth over the oxidized prow of
the boat and vola it was all shinny again. Tarps and wind can remove oxidation
and paint.

Rob, Sue & Merlin
94 WLWB


Quoting Jon :

>
>
>
> Well today I just installed a new Costco Car shelter for the Rebel
>
> Bird. I have gone through this process before for my Winnebago's and
>
> its fairly simple to do. The only thing wrong with this shelter is
>
> that's it on 20 ft long. Probably someone out there is wondering
>
> about the height being to short. Well I have resolved that problem by
>
> putting on extensions on the legs of the shelter and it sits at the
>
> middle I guess around 13 to 14 feet. It kind of skinny as its only
>
> 11 foot wide but that's ok as I still have a good foot and half on
>
> both sides. The length issue is simple and that is just to get
>
> another white tarp and drape it from the front and back of the
>
> shelter to the bus. This Costco shelter is about the cheapest way I
>
> know of to protect my bird and like I said before I have used this
>
> idea before.
>
>
>
> Oh yes tomorrow I'm going to climb around the front of the Rebel Bird
>
> and see just how hard it would be to do those vlvs in place. Hay I
>
> oust to be a Marine Machinist and if I can work on a Submarine with
>
> no space I sure can work on this!
>
>
>
> Jon
>
> Rebel Bird
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