New Tires

[Tom Warner]

I am very leary about putting off brand tires on my coach without
knowing something about their reliability and roadworthiness. It only
takes one thrown belt on a 12R tire to possibly do many thousands of
dollars of damage. I have been quoted $425/each for Firestone 400
12R22.5 16 ply bus tires that I know are good. Its tempting to save
$700 on 4 tires but its a tough decison to make. I want peace of
mind knowing that I can put them on and they will last for at least 6
years. Thats an extra $125/year for peace of mind and possibly a
better wearing tire. Still undecided. Got time dont take the road
test until June 6th here in NY for my R endorsement on my license so
I can legally drive the coach. Are there any other New Yorkers with
Bluebirds that dont have their R endorsement?

Tom Warner
Vernon Center,NY
1985 PT 40

At 10:45 PM 6/4/2006, you wrote:
>I put Oshei tires from Les Schwab with 12R's. Cost $250 ea. Use them
>on my work trucks...good for 50,000 miles. Don't notice any diff. from
>the Mich. that were on the bird from before.
>Bob Lawrence
>84 PT36
>Tacoma, Wa.
> >
> > The prices mentioned in this thread are only for 11R22.5 Those of us
> > with 12R are not so fortunate. Les Swab quoted me around $450 plus
>plus
> > plus. Seems that not all mfrs. make a suitable 12R. I would also be
> > concered that some of the off makes could be noisy. Both Goodyear
>and
> > Michelin make more than one tire for our application.
> >
> > Bruce 88FC35
> >
>
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Chris- have you installed any new insulation in your engine compartment?

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[Howard O. Truitt]

Tom,
It just does not make sense to me to spend the amount of money we spend for a
Bluebird and then want to scrimp on tires.
Anyone who has ever rode out a blown tire will probably tell you to spend the
extra money for peace of mind and safety. I'm sure even the best of tires fail
from time to time. I'm also sure that a lot of failures are caused by abuse, low
or high pressure, hitting curbs, age, etc..
Howard Truitt
Camilla, Ga.
86 PT40
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Warner
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Tires


I am very leary about putting off brand tires on my coach without
knowing something about their reliability and roadworthiness. It only
takes one thrown belt on a 12R tire to possibly do many thousands of
dollars of damage. I have been quoted $425/each for Firestone 400
12R22.5 16 ply bus tires that I know are good. Its tempting to save
$700 on 4 tires but its a tough decison to make. I want peace of
mind knowing that I can put them on and they will last for at least 6
years. Thats an extra $125/year for peace of mind and possibly a
better wearing tire. Still undecided. Got time dont take the road
test until June 6th here in NY for my R endorsement on my license so
I can legally drive the coach. Are there any other New Yorkers with
Bluebirds that dont have their R endorsement?

Tom Warner
Vernon Center,NY
1985 PT 40

At 10:45 PM 6/4/2006, you wrote:
>I put Oshei tires from Les Schwab with 12R's. Cost $250 ea. Use them
>on my work trucks...good for 50,000 miles. Don't notice any diff. from
>the Mich. that were on the bird from before.
>Bob Lawrence
>84 PT36
>Tacoma, Wa.
> >
> > The prices mentioned in this thread are only for 11R22.5 Those of us
> > with 12R are not so fortunate. Les Swab quoted me around $450 plus
>plus
> > plus. Seems that not all mfrs. make a suitable 12R. I would also be
> > concered that some of the off makes could be noisy. Both Goodyear
>and
> > Michelin make more than one tire for our application.
> >
> > Bruce 88FC35
> >
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[Mike Hohnstein]

I've metioned it before and I'll do it again. If one wants to get the most bang
for the buck, change to 11R24.5s. Best thing for the ride and handeling I've
done to date. Night and day improvement. If you got the OEM 7" wheels, you
need to buy new ones anyhow, can't put the 12Rs on them narrow wheels. 24.5s
are cheap and easy to find.
Mike Hohnstein
83FC35rb
Germantown, WI
----- Original Message -----
From: Howard O. Truitt
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Tires


Tom,
It just does not make sense to me to spend the amount of money we spend for a
Bluebird and then want to scrimp on tires.
Anyone who has ever rode out a blown tire will probably tell you to spend the
extra money for peace of mind and safety. I'm sure even the best of tires fail
from time to time. I'm also sure that a lot of failures are caused by abuse, low
or high pressure, hitting curbs, age, etc..
Howard Truitt
Camilla, Ga.
86 PT40
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Warner
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Tires


I am very leary about putting off brand tires on my coach without
knowing something about their reliability and roadworthiness. It only
takes one thrown belt on a 12R tire to possibly do many thousands of
dollars of damage. I have been quoted $425/each for Firestone 400
12R22.5 16 ply bus tires that I know are good. Its tempting to save
$700 on 4 tires but its a tough decison to make. I want peace of
mind knowing that I can put them on and they will last for at least 6
years. Thats an extra $125/year for peace of mind and possibly a
better wearing tire. Still undecided. Got time dont take the road
test until June 6th here in NY for my R endorsement on my license so
I can legally drive the coach. Are there any other New Yorkers with
Bluebirds that dont have their R endorsement?

Tom Warner
Vernon Center,NY
1985 PT 40

At 10:45 PM 6/4/2006, you wrote:
>I put Oshei tires from Les Schwab with 12R's. Cost $250 ea. Use them
>on my work trucks...good for 50,000 miles. Don't notice any diff. from
>the Mich. that were on the bird from before.
>Bob Lawrence
>84 PT36
>Tacoma, Wa.
> >
> > The prices mentioned in this thread are only for 11R22.5 Those of us
> > with 12R are not so fortunate. Les Swab quoted me around $450 plus
>plus
> > plus. Seems that not all mfrs. make a suitable 12R. I would also be
> > concered that some of the off makes could be noisy. Both Goodyear
>and
> > Michelin make more than one tire for our application.
> >
> > Bruce 88FC35
> >
>
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[Chris Reed]

I know that I need to do that soon. The old stuff was falling all over the side
of the engine and creating smoke...you should have seen the look on the prior
owners face when smoke started coming out on the test drive. I figured it was
something minor and cleaned all the grass, insulation and other stuff from
off/around the engine and it seems to be fine now.
What product is the best for the insulation? It looks like people are using 2
kinds...There has been some talk about a 2" lead insulation...any comments on
that product?
Thanks,
Chris Reed
83 FC 35 SB
Plant City, FL

erniecarpet@... wrote:
Chris- have you installed any new insulation in your engine compartment?

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana



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[David Heibult]

Mike ; I agree with you about going to 24.5, better handling and it runs
better in the hot weatherDave 91 WLPT 40


>From: "Mike Hohnstein" <MHOHNSTEIN@...>
>Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Tires
>Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 08:45:19 -0500
>
>
>
>
>I've metioned it before and I'll do it again. If one wants to get the most
>bang for the buck, change to 11R24.5s. Best thing for the ride and
>handeling I've done to date. Night and day improvement. If you got the
>OEM 7" wheels, you need to buy new ones anyhow, can't put the 12Rs on them
>narrow wheels. 24.5s are cheap and easy to find.
>
>Mike Hohnstein
>
>83FC35rb
>
>Germantown, WI
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Howard O. Truitt
>
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 8:16 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Tires
>
>
>
>
>
> Tom,
>
> It just does not make sense to me to spend the amount of money we spend
>for a Bluebird and then want to scrimp on tires.
>
> Anyone who has ever rode out a blown tire will probably tell you to spend
>the extra money for peace of mind and safety. I'm sure even the best of
>tires fail from time to time. I'm also sure that a lot of failures are
>caused by abuse, low or high pressure, hitting curbs, age, etc..
>
> Howard Truitt
>
> Camilla, Ga.
>
> 86 PT40
>
>    ----- Original Message -----
>
>    From: Tom Warner
>
>    To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
>    Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:59 PM
>
>    Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Tires
>
>
>
>
>
>    I am very leary about putting off brand tires on my coach without
>
>    knowing something about their reliability and roadworthiness. It only
>
>    takes one thrown belt on a 12R tire to possibly do many thousands of
>
>    dollars of damage. I have been quoted $425/each for Firestone 400
>
>    12R22.5 16 ply bus tires that I know are good. Its tempting to save
>
>    $700 on 4 tires but its a tough decison to make. I want peace of
>
>    mind knowing that I can put them on and they will last for at least 6
>
>    years. Thats an extra $125/year for peace of mind and possibly a
>
>    better wearing tire. Still undecided. Got time dont take the road
>
>    test until June 6th here in NY for my R endorsement on my license so
>
>    I can legally drive the coach. Are there any other New Yorkers with
>
>    Bluebirds that dont have their R endorsement?
>
>
>
>    Tom Warner
>
>    Vernon Center,NY
>
>    1985 PT 40
>
>
>
>    At 10:45 PM 6/4/2006, you wrote:
>
>    >I put Oshei tires from Les Schwab with 12R's. Cost $250 ea. Use them
>
>    >on my work trucks...good for 50,000 miles. Don't notice any diff. from
>
>    >the Mich. that were on the bird from before.
>
>    >Bob Lawrence
>
>    >84 PT36
>
>    >Tacoma, Wa.
>
>    > >
>
>    > > The prices mentioned in this thread are only for 11R22.5 Those of
>us
>
>    > > with 12R are not so fortunate. Les Swab quoted me around $450 plus
>
>    >plus
>
>    > > plus. Seems that not all mfrs. make a suitable 12R. I would also be
>
>    > > concered that some of the off makes could be noisy. Both Goodyear
>
>    >and
>
>    > > Michelin make more than one tire for our application.
>
>    > >
>
>    > > Bruce 88FC35
>
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Hank- wiill you be driiving on I-90 through Montana? ERnie-83pt40
livingston. mt


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[Curt Sprenger]

Chris,
Contact Stephen Birtles, forum member. I have installed his insulation
product and it works great. It comes already glued.

Curt Sprenger 1987 PT38, Anaheim Hills, Calif.

Chris Reed wrote:

> I know that I need to do that soon. The old stuff was falling all over
> the side of the engine and creating smoke...you should have seen the
> look on the prior owners face when smoke started coming out on the
> test drive. I figured it was something minor and cleaned all the
> grass, insulation and other stuff from off/around the engine and it
> seems to be fine now.
> What product is the best for the insulation? It looks like people
> are using 2 kinds...There has been some talk about a 2" lead
> insulation...any comments on that product?
> Thanks,
> Chris Reed
> 83 FC 35 SB
> Plant City, FL
>
> erniecarpet@... wrote:
> Chris- have you installed any new insulation in your engine
> compartment?
>

[Anthony Louis Pawley]

I bought my new OTSU tire from Les Schwab for around 390, tax included. That
is for a 12Rx22.5. I like it so far, and its reassuring to know that at least
one of my meats is new.

Speaking of....Now I want to get the brakes worked on. Any Washington 'Bird
owners here with a good recc. of where to go in the Sound area for brake work,
or should I just stick with Schwab?


Thanks

Tony Pawley
1979 FC33 Full Timin' it....
Seattle

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[Tom Warner]

Any class 8 or heavy truck repair shop can do the work or you can
have it done at your local Bluebird School bus dealer:

Bryant Motors, Inc.
1300 Bronson Way North, Renton, WA 98055
(425) 255-3478, FAX (425) 226-4192
Primary Area of Responsibility: Washington (except for 5 River Counties)

Tom Warner
Vernon Center,NY
1985 PT 40



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> I bought my new OTSU tire from Les Schwab for around 390, tax
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>
>Speaking of....Now I want to get the brakes worked on. Any
>Washington 'Bird owners here with a good recc. of where to go in the
>Sound area for brake work, or should I just stick with Schwab?
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>Thanks
>
> Tony Pawley
> 1979 FC33 Full Timin' it....
> Seattle
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