Xantrex inverter installation

[pattypape]

Bruce,

To further try to address your questions,
You can use the AC romex wire to connect to the Inverter AC output,
and reuse the remote wireing for overhead driver operation.
The existing remote panel is small and crowded, I moved the remote
On/Off switch to the area just right side of the rear camera display.
It is easier to access from the front living area, when not driving.

Jeff Miller gave me a great idea on the big nasty squirrel cage
blower in the battery charger bay. Just junk it and install one or
two 110 volt computer exhaust fan , mount them high on the right side
vent opening, This will open up more storage in that Bay , The
computer type fans are much quieter for the neighbor in the next
camp site.

Bill 88 FC It is always good to help others spend their bucks.



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> One of my upcoming projects on out 1988 FC will be to replace the
> existing inverter and "dumb" battery charger with the 458, 2000
Xantrex
> inverter charger. I do not plan on running the A/C with the
inverter.
> But I thought it would be nice to operate the Micro and once in a
while
> the TV's. In my unit the existing charger and inverter are in
adjacent
> comaprtments, streetside. The inverter is in the large
compartrment
> just forward of the dinette and the charger is in the one right
under
> the dinette. The charger also has a big fan in the compartment for
> cooling. I have not yet determined which circuits are powered by
the
> inverter but I only see one 110volt romex coming out of the
inverter. I
> have the basic remote for the Xantrex and will probably be able
to
> utilize the existing wiring for the remote. I do not have a
complete
> wiring diagram and would appreciate any tips on this install. If I
just
> connect the existing wiring to the inverter/charger what will be
the
> results? Any suggestions appreciated. As always this forum is a
wealth
> of knowledge.
>
> Bruce
>

[birdshill123]

Tom: My first post on this subject did state that I had a 1988 FC35.I
will add that info to each post. As for the Xantrex 2000 running a
micro: Tens of thousands of Fleetwood DP's including my 02 Bounder use
the Xantrex 2000 and safely run a microwave and they use 4 T105's
compared to my 6. Thank you

Bruce 1988 FC 35

[Henry Jay Hannigan]

---Bruce:

Do u have a Bounder and a BIRD??

Regards, Hank

In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> Tom: My first post on this subject did state that I had a 1988
FC35.I
> will add that info to each post. As for the Xantrex 2000 running a
> micro: Tens of thousands of Fleetwood DP's including my 02 Bounder
use
> the Xantrex 2000 and safely run a microwave and they use 4 T105's
> compared to my 6. Thank you
>
> Bruce 1988 FC 35
>

[pattypape]

Yep George,

This works for me, The Microwaves are short term power hogs.
One must be careful when using them with an inverter.
I also understand the cold winter issues, The electric heaters
really suck the wattage, IF everything in the bird was turned ON at
the same time, something would really smoke.
We really monitor the inverter usage to save the batteries,
and The 8.0 K Onan is limited in power output, when using the
electric heaters. Power / Wattage usage adds up in a hurry.
THanks,

Bill 88 FC michigan


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "George Witt"
<mrdonut12@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I've done a similar thing in mine and there's nothing wrong
with
> it, depending on which inverter you have.
> I first bought a cheap Cobra 4,000 watt inverter and wired it
to
> the battery circuit. I have to use an extension cord to use it. I
> mainly used it to make coffee and occasionally run the microwave.
It
> did fine. I installed it in the cabinet next to the entry door.
> I later installed a Xantrex inverter/charger (1500 watts) and
ran
> a special circuit to the kitchen wall outlet only. I use it the
same
> way for other things when needed, using an extension cord.
> The reason I didn't run it to the main circuit breaker panel
is I
> run electric heaters off the street side circuit in the winter. My
> 2,000 watt engine heater also runs off that circuit, as does my TV
set
> and entertainment center. If I ran that circuit off the inverter,
it
> would be bye-bye inverter over the winter, especially when I run
the
> engine heater.
> I tried to run separate wiring to the TV set, but the way a
Bird
> is built, I had a hard time and gave up on the project for the time
> being. I wanted to run it under the coach and up the outside wall,
> but there's too much steel at the bottom of the wall. Sheesh.
> Somebody on this network said it was silly to try to protect
> cheap electronic components with highly expensive pure sine wave
> inverters. With microwaves being a few hundred bucks, I can see
the
> point.
> I don't think you're off base at all. Most microwaves are
1500
> watts, that's about 13 amps.
>
> George Witt
> 81 FC 35
> Lincoln, Nebraska
>
>
>
>
> In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Bruce,
> >
> > I will try to answer, This may "NOT" be precise, as I do not
have an
> > AC wireing schematic. Under the sink behind the pegboard is a
> > relay, You may hear it humming when plugged into shore power or
> > Gennie.
> > This is the inverter relay , energized with AC power , so the
> > Inverter is out of the circuit always, when AC power is applied.
> >
> > I think the MicroWave is not on this circuit because of its'
high
> > current demand and the convection oven option that draws lots of
> > Amps. And the oven, could inadvertently be turned to the "ON"
> > position.
> >
> > I occationally use a three foot extention cord on the MicroWave
to
> > plug into the AC Inverter socket on the kitchen counter, to warm
up
> > a cup of coffee, when on the road. I use it only for a minute.
> > The MicroWave plug is in the overhead cabinet above the sink far
> > right.
> >
> > One must be "CAUTIOUS" with this outlaw plug wireing, because
the
> > Old Sharp, does not like the modified sine wave and the
inverter
> > does not like the high current demand.
> > "SO,THIS IS NOT A GOOD PRACTICE".
> > Yep, I am open to constructive criticism on this.
> >
> > Your new Inverter may have a pure sine wave output.
> > I think the MicroWave draws about 10 amp to get started.
> >
> > Bill 88 FC, Michigan (sometimes does not follow all the rules)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill:
> > >
> > > I did some investigating and found the circuits that were
powered
> > by
> > > the inverter. The PAC still works as the ice maker started
when I
> > > turned the inverter on. Now I will have to find the circuit
that
> > powers
> > > the micro. Am not new to electrical work but having trouble
> > > understanding how the original inverter is wired. Is there a
> > transfer
> > > switch somewhere?
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> >
>

[Stephen Birtles]

yes he does
one for show and one a daily driver
Stephen 77fc35


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Jay Hannigan"
wrote:
>
> ---Bruce:
>
> Do u have a Bounder and a BIRD??
>
> Regards, Hank
>
> In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
> wrote:
> >
> > Tom: My first post on this subject did state that I had a 1988
> FC35.I
> > will add that info to each post. As for the Xantrex 2000 running a
> > micro: Tens of thousands of Fleetwood DP's including my 02 Bounder
> use
> > the Xantrex 2000 and safely run a microwave and they use 4 T105's
> > compared to my 6. Thank you
> >
> > Bruce 1988 FC 35
> >
>

[Henry Jay Hannigan]

---I have a question......I have the two old bricks battery chargers
and wonder if I can connect my xantrex 2500 Plus and minus lead to
the existing battery wires without any problem???
seems OK as I would just be disconnection two battery chargers and
replacing them in same circuit.

Hope someone out there has the answer. hooking up the AC out is for
another day!
Regards,
Hank Hannigan
80FC31








In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> One of my upcoming projects on out 1988 FC will be to replace the
> existing inverter and "dumb" battery charger with the 458, 2000
Xantrex
> inverter charger. I do not plan on running the A/C with the
inverter.
> But I thought it would be nice to operate the Micro and once in a
while
> the TV's. In my unit the existing charger and inverter are in
adjacent
> comaprtments, streetside. The inverter is in the large
compartrment
> just forward of the dinette and the charger is in the one right
under
> the dinette. The charger also has a big fan in the compartment for
> cooling. I have not yet determined which circuits are powered by
the
> inverter but I only see one 110volt romex coming out of the
inverter. I
> have the basic remote for the Xantrex and will probably be able
to
> utilize the existing wiring for the remote. I do not have a
complete
> wiring diagram and would appreciate any tips on this install. If I
just
> connect the existing wiring to the inverter/charger what will be
the
> results? Any suggestions appreciated. As always this forum is a
wealth
> of knowledge.
>
> Bruce
>

[birdshill123]

Yes hank: We are a 2 MH household. The Bounder 39Z DP is our regular MH
and used for travel in the USA and Canada. It is certainly not built
like a Bird, but is very nice. The 88 FC35 is strictly for use in
Mexico and maybe the odd trip North. The roads further South can
destroy a plastic MH in no time. We had an Alpenlite high end truck
camper on a Chev CC duallie. One 5000 mile trip to the Guatemalan
border literally broke it in 2 ! The best units for Mexico are older
ones with no slides. Think of this: Our Bounder is 39 feet and weighs
about 25,000 lbs. The Bird is 35 ft. long and more like 34,000 lbs. The
Bounder cabinets would probably come apart. Lots of people have those
front mounted 25 inch TV,s land in their laps cabimet and all. Of
course the Bird is also my toy!! I havent had so much fun since I
restored a 66 Clark Cortez.

Bruce

[orbitalsolutions]

Hello President, Hank!!

The answer to your question is YES.


James
78FC33SB "Old School"
Tunica, MS


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Jay Hannigan"
wrote:
>
> ---I have a question......I have the two old bricks battery
chargers
> and wonder if I can connect my xantrex 2500 Plus and minus lead to
> the existing battery wires without any problem???
> seems OK as I would just be disconnection two battery chargers and
> replacing them in same circuit.
>
> Hope someone out there has the answer. hooking up the AC out is
for
> another day!
> Regards,
> Hank Hannigan
> 80FC31
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
> wrote:
> >
> > One of my upcoming projects on out 1988 FC will be to replace
the
> > existing inverter and "dumb" battery charger with the 458, 2000
> Xantrex
> > inverter charger. I do not plan on running the A/C with the
> inverter.
> > But I thought it would be nice to operate the Micro and once in
a
> while
> > the TV's. In my unit the existing charger and inverter are in
> adjacent
> > comaprtments, streetside. The inverter is in the large
> compartrment
> > just forward of the dinette and the charger is in the one right
> under
> > the dinette. The charger also has a big fan in the compartment
for
> > cooling. I have not yet determined which circuits are powered by
> the
> > inverter but I only see one 110volt romex coming out of the
> inverter. I
> > have the basic remote for the Xantrex and will probably be able
> to
> > utilize the existing wiring for the remote. I do not have a
> complete
> > wiring diagram and would appreciate any tips on this install. If
I
> just
> > connect the existing wiring to the inverter/charger what will be
> the
> > results? Any suggestions appreciated. As always this forum is a
> wealth
> > of knowledge.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
>