1997 Bluebird 43'
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07-22-2006, 11:27
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1997 Bluebird 43'
Pros: 1) It's one big bad ass machine.
2) Goes real fast for a bus. 3) Guarenteed to inpressed any fellow "campers." 4) If your single it's better than the best French smelling after shave. 5) I just bought one so you can be just like me. ....................LOL I paid $219,000 US -- but it's an extra sweet bus! Cons: 1) You don't have one yet. -James 97WLWB43 -- Perhaps -- "New School" In Route... 78FC33SB "Old School" Orange Lake FL. Move over President Hank, there's a new sheriff in town ... LOL |
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07-22-2006, 11:49
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1997 Bluebird 43'
In New York any coach over 40 feet and/or over 26000# the driver must
take and pass a road test to get a special endorsement which includes parallel parking. I took it in May 2006. tom warner vernon center,Ny 1985 PT 40 At 07:27 PM 7/22/2006, you wrote: >Yes, there was a backing turn to a loading dock as well. > >I'm going to re-license myself in Nevada next year, so I've been >reading their manual. The backing/turn isn't such a big deal. I live >on a dead-end street and must use a cross street (that also dead >ends) to turn around. It's the same maneuver as the loading dock >thing. But parallel parking? Gimme a break... > >Pete Masterson > >'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203 >El Sobrante, CA > >On Jul 22, 2006, at 3:32 PM, Tom McCarthy wrote: > > > Pete, > > > > Didn't your test involve backing up off a street turning to a loading > > dock? Mine did. I asked the examiner why and he said it was part of > > the commercial test so I had to do it. > > > > Tommy 'Two Shoes' McCarthy > > '95 PT42 WBSA > > Poway, CA (first housecar 40'+ test for commercial class B in > > Econdido DMV) > > > > > > --- In > > Pete Masterson > > wrote: > >> > >> Jay, > >> > >> When I was searching for my purchase, I was looking at '97 and '98 > >> units at the top end of those that I was considering. Ultimately, > >> George's coach became available through eBay (from Mr. Oliver's) at > > a > >> very good price. While there are some interior appearance issues, > > the > >> coach had many advantages -- so I made my purchase. Here's some of > >> the thoughts I had about the newer units - > >> > >> Pro - > >> Newer, potentially less wear and tear. > >> More modern systems, such as DD Series 60 engine instead of the 8v92 > >> possibly only had one owner (a con, if the owner didn't take good > >> care of it). > >> Parts are probably less difficult to find. > >> Interior more likely to be in good condition. > >> Uses standard home-style plastic plumbing. (While this might be > >> considered a con, I understand that the previous copper plumbing > > was > >> a non-standard size that was difficult to get parts for.) > >> > >> Con - > >> '97s are generally priced at around $200K -- there's quite a bit > > of > >> depreciation yet to come out. For example, my '95 was more than > > $70K > >> less than the asking price of most '97s and is essentially the same. > >> Might just be at the age where stuff (that has an age-related wear > >> pattern) is likely to fail. > >> Over 40' in most states requires getting a non commercial class B > >> driver's license. (Incredibly, they want you to demonstrate > > parallel > >> parking the beast for the license.) > >> > >> > >> Pete Masterson > >> aeonix1@... > >> '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203 > >> El Sobrante, CA > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Jul 22, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Jay Darst wrote: > >> > >>> Any pro's or con's to the 1997 43' Wanderlodge? > >>> > >>> What have these been selling for $$$ ? > >>> > >>> Have researched asking prices on several www sites... > >>> > >>> Appreciate all information... > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> Jay Darst > >>> 85PT40 > >>> Springfield, IL > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > |
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07-22-2006, 12:23
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1997 Bluebird 43'
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote: > thing. But parallel parking? Gimme a break... > I happen to live "in the city", just 1 mile from Washington, DC and I have to park (parallel) on city streets in front of my house. The street is to narrow to turn sufficiently and allow me to back into my driveway. I have been parallel parking rigs there for the past 12 years. Besides it's a hoot when I am in a tight situation and I raise my tag axle and parallel park in a spot between two rigs. I treat my bird like it is a big car and go anyplace I can fit. Paul 97wb43 BTW, for Jay, I just remebered another reason for the 97....Liftable tag axle (first year for that as well). |
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07-22-2006, 18:24
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1997 Bluebird 43'
I have an opportunity to purchase the 1997 for $140k, sounded like a
hell of a deal... Thanks everyone, appreciate all the info. Jay Darst 85PT40 Springfield, IL where I absolutely love this forum! wow! --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jay Darst" > > Any pro's or con's to the 1997 43' Wanderlodge? > > What have these been selling for $$$ ? > > Have researched asking prices on several www sites... > > Appreciate all information... > > Thanks > Jay Darst > 85PT40 > Springfield, IL > |
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07-22-2006, 18:29
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1997 Bluebird 43'
Greg,
You can pull a trailer or toad as long as it does not exceed the CA length limit of 65 feet. I do not know about double points. Tommy the Irish McC Poway, CA --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor" > > Tom, Does California Non commercial B limit you from pulling a > trailer? Commercial class A is a upgrade to pulling a trailer From a > Commercial B. DO you get double the infraction points on a ticket? > Dmv holds Commercial drivers to a higher standard and gives us double > points towards loss of license. > > Gregory O'Connor > Class A , class A driver too > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom McCarthy" > > > > > Pete, > > > > Didn't your test involve backing up off a street turning to a > loading > > dock? Mine did. I asked the examiner why and he said it was part > of > > the commercial test so I had to do it. > > > > Tommy 'Two Shoes' McCarthy > > '95 PT42 WBSA > > Poway, CA (first housecar 40'+ test for commercial class B in > > Econdido DMV) > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson > > wrote: > > > > > > Jay, > > > > > > When I was searching for my purchase, I was looking at '97 > and '98 > > > units at the top end of those that I was considering. > Ultimately, > > > George's coach became available through eBay (from Mr. Oliver's) > at > > a > > > very good price. While there are some interior appearance issues, > > the > > > coach had many advantages -- so I made my purchase. Here's some > of > > > the thoughts I had about the newer units - > > > > > > Pro - > > > Newer, potentially less wear and tear. > > > More modern systems, such as DD Series 60 engine instead of the > 8v92 > > > possibly only had one owner (a con, if the owner didn't take > good > > > care of it). > > > Parts are probably less difficult to find. > > > Interior more likely to be in good condition. > > > Uses standard home-style plastic plumbing. (While this might be > > > considered a con, I understand that the previous copper plumbing > > was > > > a non-standard size that was difficult to get parts for.) > > > > > > Con - > > > '97s are generally priced at around $200K -- there's quite a bit > > of > > > depreciation yet to come out. For example, my '95 was more than > > $70K > > > less than the asking price of most '97s and is essentially the > same. > > > Might just be at the age where stuff (that has an age-related > wear > > > pattern) is likely to fail. > > > Over 40' in most states requires getting a non commercial class > B > > > driver's license. (Incredibly, they want you to demonstrate > > parallel > > > parking the beast for the license.) > > > > > > > > > Pete Masterson > > > aeonix1@ > > > '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203 > > > El Sobrante, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 22, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Jay Darst wrote: > > > > > > > Any pro's or con's to the 1997 43' Wanderlodge? > > > > > > > > What have these been selling for $$$ ? > > > > > > > > Have researched asking prices on several www sites... > > > > > > > > Appreciate all information... > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Jay Darst > > > > 85PT40 > > > > Springfield, IL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > |
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07-22-2006, 18:31
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The trailer has to be less than 10,000 pounds, if my memory serves me
well. T2Shoes McCarthy '95 PT42 Poway, CA --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor" > > Tom, Does California Non commercial B limit you from pulling a > trailer? Commercial class A is a upgrade to pulling a trailer From a > Commercial B. DO you get double the infraction points on a ticket? > Dmv holds Commercial drivers to a higher standard and gives us double > points towards loss of license. > > Gregory O'Connor > Class A , class A driver too > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom McCarthy" > > > > > Pete, > > > > Didn't your test involve backing up off a street turning to a > loading > > dock? Mine did. I asked the examiner why and he said it was part > of > > the commercial test so I had to do it. > > > > Tommy 'Two Shoes' McCarthy > > '95 PT42 WBSA > > Poway, CA (first housecar 40'+ test for commercial class B in > > Econdido DMV) > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson > > wrote: > > > > > > Jay, > > > > > > When I was searching for my purchase, I was looking at '97 > and '98 > > > units at the top end of those that I was considering. > Ultimately, > > > George's coach became available through eBay (from Mr. Oliver's) > at > > a > > > very good price. While there are some interior appearance issues, > > the > > > coach had many advantages -- so I made my purchase. Here's some > of > > > the thoughts I had about the newer units - > > > > > > Pro - > > > Newer, potentially less wear and tear. > > > More modern systems, such as DD Series 60 engine instead of the > 8v92 > > > possibly only had one owner (a con, if the owner didn't take > good > > > care of it). > > > Parts are probably less difficult to find. > > > Interior more likely to be in good condition. > > > Uses standard home-style plastic plumbing. (While this might be > > > considered a con, I understand that the previous copper plumbing > > was > > > a non-standard size that was difficult to get parts for.) > > > > > > Con - > > > '97s are generally priced at around $200K -- there's quite a bit > > of > > > depreciation yet to come out. For example, my '95 was more than > > $70K > > > less than the asking price of most '97s and is essentially the > same. > > > Might just be at the age where stuff (that has an age-related > wear > > > pattern) is likely to fail. > > > Over 40' in most states requires getting a non commercial class > B > > > driver's license. (Incredibly, they want you to demonstrate > > parallel > > > parking the beast for the license.) > > > > > > > > > Pete Masterson > > > aeonix1@ > > > '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203 > > > El Sobrante, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 22, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Jay Darst wrote: > > > > > > > Any pro's or con's to the 1997 43' Wanderlodge? > > > > > > > > What have these been selling for $$$ ? > > > > > > > > Have researched asking prices on several www sites... > > > > > > > > Appreciate all information... > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Jay Darst > > > > 85PT40 > > > > Springfield, IL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > |
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07-23-2006, 02:30
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1997 Bluebird 43'
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
> > Paul, when did the '"steerable tag" come into play? Not sure on that one Ernie, but I believe it was only used for one year and had to be on the LX series. Paul 97wb43 |
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07-23-2006, 03:42
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Tom, I have rescued friends (more then 10 times) when the chp gave
them one hour to produce a 'Com. A' driver or 'tow and impound'. That 10 K trailer rule applies even if the trailer with a GVW of +10,000 is empty and being pulled by a SUV. This is a big abuse of the spirit of the law and a major inconvenience to me as I have to sit road side to be signed off by the impounding officer. Pulling a trailer with more loadable capacity than your intended cargo and driving a Motorhome with air brakes proves the driver to be responsible and safer. I believe a special airbrake endorsement should be required for any airbrake operator even if it is a miniwini. Driving skills test for large vehicles is a good idea and we are all safer because your class of drivers took the time to learn and test. Thank you. Gregory O'Connor 94ptRomoland Ca But, just because you have a hunting license doesn't mean you wont accidentally shoot someone in the face. Republicans proclaim in defence,"But I have a license." --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom McCarthy" > > The trailer has to be less than 10,000 pounds, if my memory serves me > well. > > T2Shoes McCarthy > '95 PT42 > Poway, CA > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor" > > > > > Tom, Does California Non commercial B limit you from pulling a > > trailer? Commercial class A is a upgrade to pulling a trailer From > a > > Commercial B. DO you get double the infraction points on a ticket? > > Dmv holds Commercial drivers to a higher standard and gives us > double > > points towards loss of license. > > > > Gregory O'Connor > > Class A , class A driver too > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Tom McCarthy" > > > > > > > > Pete, > > > > > > Didn't your test involve backing up off a street turning to a > > loading > > > dock? Mine did. I asked the examiner why and he said it was > part > > of > > > the commercial test so I had to do it. > > > > > > Tommy 'Two Shoes' McCarthy > > > '95 PT42 WBSA > > > Poway, CA (first housecar 40'+ test for commercial class B in > > > Econdido DMV) > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Jay, > > > > > > > > When I was searching for my purchase, I was looking at '97 > > and '98 > > > > units at the top end of those that I was considering. > > Ultimately, > > > > George's coach became available through eBay (from Mr. > Oliver's) > > at > > > a > > > > very good price. While there are some interior appearance > issues, > > > the > > > > coach had many advantages -- so I made my purchase. Here's some > > of > > > > the thoughts I had about the newer units - > > > > > > > > Pro - > > > > Newer, potentially less wear and tear. > > > > More modern systems, such as DD Series 60 engine instead of the > > 8v92 > > > > possibly only had one owner (a con, if the owner didn't take > > good > > > > care of it). > > > > Parts are probably less difficult to find. > > > > Interior more likely to be in good condition. > > > > Uses standard home-style plastic plumbing. (While this might > be > > > > considered a con, I understand that the previous copper > plumbing > > > was > > > > a non-standard size that was difficult to get parts for.) > > > > > > > > Con - > > > > '97s are generally priced at around $200K -- there's quite a > bit > > > of > > > > depreciation yet to come out. For example, my '95 was more than > > > $70K > > > > less than the asking price of most '97s and is essentially the > > same. > > > > Might just be at the age where stuff (that has an age-related > > wear > > > > pattern) is likely to fail. > > > > Over 40' in most states requires getting a non commercial class > > B > > > > driver's license. (Incredibly, they want you to demonstrate > > > parallel > > > > parking the beast for the license.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Pete Masterson > > > > aeonix1@ > > > > '95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 4203 > > > > El Sobrante, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 22, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Jay Darst wrote: > > > > > > > > > Any pro's or con's to the 1997 43' Wanderlodge? > > > > > > > > > > What have these been selling for $$$ ? > > > > > > > > > > Have researched asking prices on several www sites... > > > > > > > > > > Appreciate all information... > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Jay Darst > > > > > 85PT40 > > > > > Springfield, IL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > |
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07-23-2006, 03:48
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Tommy,
I live in Georgia would I be affected by the length limit or license if I visited Ca. Howard Truitt Camilla, Ga. 86 PT40 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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07-23-2006, 04:07
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Ernie, Lift not steer. I am sure you know if you turn on the drive or
center axle, you have a shorter wheel bace. I believe all PT have the ability to lose grip on the tag and make a tighter R turn. On the 94 I drop air out of the tag air bags and drag my tag tires sideways as I swing off the center drive axle. I am sure you also know that if you get hung up on the tag axle ( speed bump, incline , soft sand) you can dump the bags and ride on the center drive. 'Twin screw' is a term for a set of axles that both have drive. 'PT' is a set where one axle (pusher) drives and one (Tag)follows. Gregory O'Connor 94ptRomolandCa 'Taging, untill mass is over' --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote: > > Paul, when did the '"steerable tag" come into play? > > Ernie Ekberg > 83 PT40 > Livingston, Montana > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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