Weather Striping

[Rob Robinson]

I recently noticed my weather striping under the front cap access panel had
given up the ghost. I thought some might be interested in my repair. In my
search for a replacement type of weather striping I decided to use the 1
1/4" wide self-sticking foam tape material used to protect truck bed rails
when aftermarket truck caps are fitted. I chose this material because it
came in extra wide size and in a length that would let me install it in one
piece. I cleaned the surface with rubbing alcohol and applied the tape from
the bottom center so that the only joint would be at the bottom. One of the
nice things about this tape is it's ability to curve around corners and
retain it's shape. To finish it off I put the fiberglass cap back in
position and just pushed those 'pop screws' (not sure of the tech name)
right through the foam tape.

--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


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[Leroy Eckert]

Rob: Thanks, that is one of my weekend projects. Did you find the self
adhesive backing strong enough to hold the piece? Did you do the same around
the generator door? Been wrong before but I think those pop screws are Dzus
fasteners.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL





----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Robinson
To: Wanderlodge ; WanderlodgeForum
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:05 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Weather Striping


I recently noticed my weather striping under the front cap access panel had
given up the ghost. I thought some might be interested in my repair. In my
search for a replacement type of weather striping I decided to use the 1
1/4" wide self-sticking foam tape material used to protect truck bed rails
when aftermarket truck caps are fitted. I chose this material because it
came in extra wide size and in a length that would let me install it in one
piece. I cleaned the surface with rubbing alcohol and applied the tape from
the bottom center so that the only joint would be at the bottom. One of the
nice things about this tape is it's ability to curve around corners and
retain it's shape. To finish it off I put the fiberglass cap back in
position and just pushed those 'pop screws' (not sure of the tech name)
right through the foam tape.

--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB

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[Rob Robinson]

Leroy after I used the rubbing alcohol (which cleaned up all the crude) the
surface got really tacky. Needless to say the self-sticking side of the
rubber tape glued down extremely well. There must have been some glue
residue left behind from the old foam tape.

On 26/09/06, Leroy Eckert wrote:
>
> Rob: Thanks, that is one of my weekend projects. Did you find the self
> adhesive backing strong enough to hold the piece? Did you do the same around
> the generator door? Been wrong before but I think those pop screws are Dzus
> fasteners.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40
> Niceville, FL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rob Robinson
> To: Wanderlodge ; WanderlodgeForum
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:05 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Weather Striping
>
> I recently noticed my weather striping under the front cap access panel
> had
> given up the ghost. I thought some might be interested in my repair. In my
> search for a replacement type of weather striping I decided to use the 1
> 1/4" wide self-sticking foam tape material used to protect truck bed rails
> when aftermarket truck caps are fitted. I chose this material because it
> came in extra wide size and in a length that would let me install it in
> one
> piece. I cleaned the surface with rubbing alcohol and applied the tape
> from
> the bottom center so that the only joint would be at the bottom. One of
> the
> nice things about this tape is it's ability to curve around corners and
> retain it's shape. To finish it off I put the fiberglass cap back in
> position and just pushed those 'pop screws' (not sure of the tech name)
> right through the foam tape.
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


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[Stephen Birtles]

For the fasteners look at
http://www.southco.com
you will find then there

Stephen 77fc35 still with knuts and kbolts


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
wrote:
>
> Leroy after I used the rubbing alcohol (which cleaned up all the
crude) the
> surface got really tacky. Needless to say the self-sticking side
of the
> rubber tape glued down extremely well. There must have been some
glue
> residue left behind from the old foam tape.
>
> On 26/09/06, Leroy Eckert wrote:
> >
> > Rob: Thanks, that is one of my weekend projects. Did you find
the self
> > adhesive backing strong enough to hold the piece? Did you do the
same around
> > the generator door? Been wrong before but I think those pop
screws are Dzus
> > fasteners.
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40
> > Niceville, FL
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rob Robinson
> > To: Wanderlodge ; WanderlodgeForum
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:05 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Weather Striping
> >
> > I recently noticed my weather striping under the front cap
access panel
> > had
> > given up the ghost. I thought some might be interested in my
repair. In my
> > search for a replacement type of weather striping I decided to
use the 1
> > 1/4" wide self-sticking foam tape material used to protect truck
bed rails
> > when aftermarket truck caps are fitted. I chose this material
because it
> > came in extra wide size and in a length that would let me
install it in
> > one
> > piece. I cleaned the surface with rubbing alcohol and applied
the tape
> > from
> > the bottom center so that the only joint would be at the bottom.
One of
> > the
> > nice things about this tape is it's ability to curve around
corners and
> > retain it's shape. To finish it off I put the fiberglass cap
back in
> > position and just pushed those 'pop screws' (not sure of the
tech name)
> > right through the foam tape.
> >
> > --
> > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > 94 WLWB
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Leroy Eckert]

Depending on the configuration, another good source for Dzus, Camloc, and
Southco is http://www.aircraftspruce.com. It is always good to keep CSK and Tinnerman
washers, stainless screws and rivnuts around the bus.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL





----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Birtles
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:11 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Weather Striping


For the fasteners look at
http://www.southco.com
you will find then there

Stephen 77fc35 still with knuts and kbolts

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
wrote:
>
> Leroy after I used the rubbing alcohol (which cleaned up all the
crude) the
> surface got really tacky. Needless to say the self-sticking side
of the
> rubber tape glued down extremely well. There must have been some
glue
> residue left behind from the old foam tape.
>
> On 26/09/06, Leroy Eckert wrote:
> >
> > Rob: Thanks, that is one of my weekend projects. Did you find
the self
> > adhesive backing strong enough to hold the piece? Did you do the
same around
> > the generator door? Been wrong before but I think those pop
screws are Dzus
> > fasteners.
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40
> > Niceville, FL
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rob Robinson
> > To: Wanderlodge ; WanderlodgeForum
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:05 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Weather Striping
> >
> > I recently noticed my weather striping under the front cap
access panel
> > had
> > given up the ghost. I thought some might be interested in my
repair. In my
> > search for a replacement type of weather striping I decided to
use the 1
> > 1/4" wide self-sticking foam tape material used to protect truck
bed rails
> > when aftermarket truck caps are fitted. I chose this material
because it
> > came in extra wide size and in a length that would let me
install it in
> > one
> > piece. I cleaned the surface with rubbing alcohol and applied
the tape
> > from
> > the bottom center so that the only joint would be at the bottom.
One of
> > the
> > nice things about this tape is it's ability to curve around
corners and
> > retain it's shape. To finish it off I put the fiberglass cap
back in
> > position and just pushed those 'pop screws' (not sure of the
tech name)
> > right through the foam tape.
> >
> > --
> > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > 94 WLWB
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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[Pete Masterson]

I don't think the fasteners on the front access panel are Dzus. The
closest I've seen (so far) are the A-Lock fastener from Aircraft
Spruce (but they're not quite right as the head is wrong and there's
no spring). The Dzus has a 'wing' shape at the end, but the fastener
(at least on my coach) is a straight shaft with (what appears to be)
a pin at the end that engages the latch-device. It appears that the
pin would have to be attached after the fastener and spring are
placed through the sleeve-hole. (Of course, the fastener is probably
installed as one piece with the sleeve during original manufacture.)

I note that Southco has the quarter-turn latches used on the radiator
grills at the rear of the coach. I was able to purchase a replacement
latch for one that had to be drilled out when I had work done on my
radiator.

I'm in the process of building a small inventory of likely fasteners
for my coach ... but I'm running into some rather unexpected and odd
items compared to what I've encountered with other vehicles I've
worked on over the years. What I find a bit annoying is that from
time to time I'll find a washer or screw on the floor --- but I have
no idea where it came from. I suppose that when something come
crashing down, that the secret will be revealed. (I have a nice
collection of a half-dozen of so bits and pieces in one of the cup-
holders up at the front of the coach...)

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Sep 27, 2006, at 5:02 AM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Depending on the configuration, another good source for Dzus,
> Camloc, and Southco is http://www.aircraftspruce.com. It is always good
> to keep CSK and Tinnerman washers, stainless screws and rivnuts
> around the bus.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40
> Niceville, FL
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stephen Birtles
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:11 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Weather Striping
>
>
> For the fasteners look at
> http://www.southco.com
> you will find then there
>
> Stephen 77fc35 still with knuts and kbolts



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[Leroy Eckert]

I am removing my panel to replace the seal this weekend. I should be able to
determine if they are Dzus or Camloc. I cannot determine anything from the
Spruce website, not enough detail. If I can find my Aircraft Spruce catalogue I
can get it right. With a little luck I may have some at the hanger.
I keep an assortment of fasteners, lightbulbs, butt connectors etc. in the tool
box. You always need something when you don't have it. If you have it, you
never need it.
As for stuff crashing down, that can't be good.
I'll let you know what I find Sunday eve.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL






----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Weather Striping


I don't think the fasteners on the front access panel are Dzus. The
closest I've seen (so far) are the A-Lock fastener from Aircraft
Spruce (but they're not quite right as the head is wrong and there's
no spring). The Dzus has a 'wing' shape at the end, but the fastener
(at least on my coach) is a straight shaft with (what appears to be)
a pin at the end that engages the latch-device. It appears that the
pin would have to be attached after the fastener and spring are
placed through the sleeve-hole. (Of course, the fastener is probably
installed as one piece with the sleeve during original manufacture.)

I note that Southco has the quarter-turn latches used on the radiator
grills at the rear of the coach. I was able to purchase a replacement
latch for one that had to be drilled out when I had work done on my
radiator.

I'm in the process of building a small inventory of likely fasteners
for my coach ... but I'm running into some rather unexpected and odd
items compared to what I've encountered with other vehicles I've
worked on over the years. What I find a bit annoying is that from
time to time I'll find a washer or screw on the floor --- but I have
no idea where it came from. I suppose that when something come
crashing down, that the secret will be revealed. (I have a nice
collection of a half-dozen of so bits and pieces in one of the cup-
holders up at the front of the coach...)

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

On Sep 27, 2006, at 5:02 AM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Depending on the configuration, another good source for Dzus,
> Camloc, and Southco is http://www.aircraftspruce.com. It is always good
> to keep CSK and Tinnerman washers, stainless screws and rivnuts
> around the bus.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40
> Niceville, FL
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stephen Birtles
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:11 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Weather Striping
>
>
> For the fasteners look at
> http://www.southco.com
> you will find then there
>
> Stephen 77fc35 still with knuts and kbolts

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[Leroy Eckert]

Hey Pete: My fasteners are not Dzus as I thought but are Camloc flush mount
phillips head CAD plated studs. They are held in place by a internal tooth
washer. They are easily removed by removing the washer and pulling out the
stud. Removal of the cross pin is not required because the installer carved a
small grove to allow the cross pin to pass through the cover at a 45 degree
angle. I have decided to replace mine with stainless.

PN 2700-4s for stainless-locking pin is 1" long-$1.60ea
PN 2700-4 for CAD-$1.39ea
Internal tooth washer-PN 2600-LW-$.18ea

My bus takes 20ea
The barrel of these studs are about 1/4" in diameter. The phillips screw head
is slightly larger. There are various lengths.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL




----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Weather Striping


I don't think the fasteners on the front access panel are Dzus. The
closest I've seen (so far) are the A-Lock fastener from Aircraft
Spruce (but they're not quite right as the head is wrong and there's
no spring). The Dzus has a 'wing' shape at the end, but the fastener
(at least on my coach) is a straight shaft with (what appears to be)
a pin at the end that engages the latch-device. It appears that the
pin would have to be attached after the fastener and spring are
placed through the sleeve-hole. (Of course, the fastener is probably
installed as one piece with the sleeve during original manufacture.)

I note that Southco has the quarter-turn latches used on the radiator
grills at the rear of the coach. I was able to purchase a replacement
latch for one that had to be drilled out when I had work done on my
radiator.

I'm in the process of building a small inventory of likely fasteners
for my coach ... but I'm running into some rather unexpected and odd
items compared to what I've encountered with other vehicles I've
worked on over the years. What I find a bit annoying is that from
time to time I'll find a washer or screw on the floor --- but I have
no idea where it came from. I suppose that when something come
crashing down, that the secret will be revealed. (I have a nice
collection of a half-dozen of so bits and pieces in one of the cup-
holders up at the front of the coach...)

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

On Sep 27, 2006, at 5:02 AM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Depending on the configuration, another good source for Dzus,
> Camloc, and Southco is http://www.aircraftspruce.com. It is always good
> to keep CSK and Tinnerman washers, stainless screws and rivnuts
> around the bus.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40
> Niceville, FL
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stephen Birtles
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:11 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Weather Striping
>
>
> For the fasteners look at
> http://www.southco.com
> you will find then there
>
> Stephen 77fc35 still with knuts and kbolts

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[Pete Masterson]

Ok, to ensure we're talking about the same thing:

The phillips head diameter is (approx) 1/4 inch. The stud shaft is
1/8 inch in diameter. The distance to the pin (from the head) is
about 7/8 inch and about 1/8 inch extends past the pin. (So the
overall length is about 1 inch.) The spring is about 3/8 inch with
about 5 turns in that distance.

I didn't examine the fitting close enough to note that it could pass
through at an angle... but that certainly makes sense.

I found the data sheet for the 2700-4s at AircraftSpruce.com ... and
the price matches, so I guess that's where you found them as well.

I'll take a close look at the studs tomorrow and probably replace all
of them with stainless* as well... mine are showing a bit of rust,
but most have the head painted to match the coach.

*I replaced the Southco latch on the radiator door with stainless
(with a screwdriver/coin slot instead of hex key) after I had to
drill one out due to corrosion.

Thank you for the information.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Sep 28, 2006, at 3:49 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Hey Pete: My fasteners are not Dzus as I thought but are Camloc
> flush mount phillips head CAD plated studs. They are held in place
> by a internal tooth washer. They are easily removed by removing
> the washer and pulling out the stud. Removal of the cross pin is
> not required because the installer carved a small grove to allow
> the cross pin to pass through the cover at a 45 degree angle. I
> have decided to replace mine with stainless.
>
> PN 2700-4s for stainless-locking pin is 1" long-$1.60ea
> PN 2700-4 for CAD-$1.39ea
> Internal tooth washer-PN 2600-LW-$.18ea
>
> My bus takes 20ea
> The barrel of these studs are about 1/4" in diameter. The phillips
> screw head is slightly larger. There are various lengths.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40
> Niceville, FL
>



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[Leroy Eckert]

Phillips head diameter- approx 1/4 inch. Book says .256
I didn't measure the distance from the head to the cross pin( the part that
locks into the receptacle) but using a -2 that I have in front of me I would
expect 7/8 inch from the head to the cross pin. The stud shaft is 1/8 inch in
diameter. Didn't measure the spring but comparing to the -2 I would expect the
spring to be about 1/2 inch. Since the panel is fiberglass it should be easy to
get one side of the cross pin out then the complete unit falls out.
I found my catalogue and it has more info than the net. Spruce has them in
stock. I'm going to leave mine unpainted, I like the detail and you do not need
to touch them up.
I'm certain that we have the same part, just wonder if the length of the shaft
may be different. The installer ground out some of the fiberglass on the back of
my panel so that all of the fasteners were the same. Take one out and measure
the length. Look to see if the installer recessed the attachment washer.
The internal tooth washer has 6 teeth and when pressed on the barrel of the stud
the teeth angle slightly to prevent movement. Once the washer is removed you
need to use a new washer.
I'm working on changing all exterior screws on my bus to stainless. I hate
chipped paint on screws and rust residue.
If we owned a plastic bus we would not have these minor problems, we would have
major problems.
Let me know what you find.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40
Niceville, FL


----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Weather Striping


Ok, to ensure we're talking about the same thing:

The phillips head diameter is (approx) 1/4 inch. The stud shaft is
1/8 inch in diameter. The distance to the pin (from the head) is
about 7/8 inch and about 1/8 inch extends past the pin. (So the
overall length is about 1 inch.) The spring is about 3/8 inch with
about 5 turns in that distance.

I didn't examine the fitting close enough to note that it could pass
through at an angle... but that certainly makes sense.

I found the data sheet for the 2700-4s at AircraftSpruce.com ... and
the price matches, so I guess that's where you found them as well.

I'll take a close look at the studs tomorrow and probably replace all
of them with stainless* as well... mine are showing a bit of rust,
but most have the head painted to match the coach.

*I replaced the Southco latch on the radiator door with stainless
(with a screwdriver/coin slot instead of hex key) after I had to
drill one out due to corrosion.

Thank you for the information.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Bluebird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

On Sep 28, 2006, at 3:49 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Hey Pete: My fasteners are not Dzus as I thought but are Camloc
> flush mount phillips head CAD plated studs. They are held in place
> by a internal tooth washer. They are easily removed by removing
> the washer and pulling out the stud. Removal of the cross pin is
> not required because the installer carved a small grove to allow
> the cross pin to pass through the cover at a 45 degree angle. I
> have decided to replace mine with stainless.
>
> PN 2700-4s for stainless-locking pin is 1" long-$1.60ea
> PN 2700-4 for CAD-$1.39ea
> Internal tooth washer-PN 2600-LW-$.18ea
>
> My bus takes 20ea
> The barrel of these studs are about 1/4" in diameter. The phillips
> screw head is slightly larger. There are various lengths.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40
> Niceville, FL
>

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