Front Air

[Bill Rowe]

Wouldn't you know it, the first time I need the roof air this year,
and it won't come on. I worked OK three weeks ago when I tried it. I
have a 90sp36 with two roof airs. The rear works fine. When I tried
the front air, it will not do anything. I checked the breakers to the
right of the entrance door. Everything was on. I have voltage on both
legs of power. With 20 amps on leg one and none on leg two, with rear
air running. All heat is turned off and switches are in summer. Any
idea if there is another breaker somewhere? It is a penguin unit.
The rear works enough to cool the coach down for us to sleep tonight.
We have 14 college kids staying in the house tonight, so the wife,
dogs and I are moving out.
Bill AR 90sp36

[Jeff Miller]

The next thing I'd check is to drop the inside shroud and check
voltage at the A/C control box.

- Jeff Miller
http://www.wanderlodge.net


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Rowe"
wrote:
>
> Wouldn't you know it, the first time I need the roof air this year,
> and it won't come on. I worked OK three weeks ago when I tried it. I
> have a 90sp36 with two roof airs. The rear works fine. When I tried
> the front air, it will not do anything. I checked the breakers to
the
> right of the entrance door. Everything was on. I have voltage on
both
> legs of power. With 20 amps on leg one and none on leg two, with
rear
> air running. All heat is turned off and switches are in summer. Any
> idea if there is another breaker somewhere? It is a penguin unit.
> The rear works enough to cool the coach down for us to sleep
tonight.
> We have 14 college kids staying in the house tonight, so the wife,
> dogs and I are moving out.
> Bill AR 90sp36

[scoggins_jim]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Rowe"
wrote:
>
> Wouldn't you know it, the first time I need the roof air this year,
> a............

don't want to insult anyone but as you well know sometimes in these
coaches "switches is bitches". I have screwed it up more than i care
to admit. Go back and double check the easy basic stuff.

In my 86 there were the three switches on the overhead that had to be on:
front middle and rear
I think the heat had to be off.
the ac itself had to be on.

Regards,
Jim Scoggins
usetabe 86 PT40
now M380 where "switches is super bitches"

[mw88fc]

speaking of switches,

I suppose the switch above the driver could have gone bad.. could this cause it?

mark walk

88fc

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "scoggins_jim" <scoggins.j@a...>
wrote:
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Rowe"
> wrote:
> >
> > Wouldn't you know it, the first time I need the roof air this year,
> > a............
>
> don't want to insult anyone but as you well know sometimes in these
> coaches "switches is bitches". I have screwed it up more than i care
> to admit. Go back and double check the easy basic stuff.
>
> In my 86 there were the three switches on the overhead that had to be on:
> front middle and rear
> I think the heat had to be off.
> the ac itself had to be on.
>
> Regards,
> Jim Scoggins
> usetabe 86 PT40
> now M380 where "switches is super bitches"

[Bill Rowe]

Jeff & All, I dropped the cover, no power, checked behind the braker good
power, found box where two hots and commons connect and go out as one each +
ground to unit on roof, no power coming in. must be another breaker somewhere.
between main braker box and junction box. I don't think the wall thermostat is
in the involved with air conditioning.
I am writing on PDA so please excuse errors .
Bill 90sp36

[Jeff Miller]

As mentioned, you do have the two switches on above the driver's head
(front and rear A/C)?

These switches control two relays in a metal enclosure, with the rig
quiet you should be able to have someone switch them on/off and find
the relays, usually near the breaker panel but not sure in the SP.

- Jeff Miller
http://www.wanderlodge.net


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Rowe"
wrote:
>
> Jeff & All, I dropped the cover, no power, checked behind the
braker good power, found box where two hots and commons connect and
go out as one each + ground to unit on roof, no power coming in. must
be another breaker somewhere. between main braker box and junction
box. I don't think the wall thermostat is in the involved with air
conditioning.
> I am writing on PDA so please excuse errors .
> Bill 90sp36

[Donald Goodwin]

If you have a central control thermostat each zone has to be in the cool
mode.

Donny Goodwin
2003 LXI
Montgomery, AL

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Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Front Air


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Rowe"
wrote:
>
> Wouldn't you know it, the first time I need the roof air this year,
> a............

don't want to insult anyone but as you well know sometimes in these
coaches "switches is bitches". I have screwed it up more than i care
to admit. Go back and double check the easy basic stuff.

In my 86 there were the three switches on the overhead that had to be on:
front middle and rear
I think the heat had to be off.
the ac itself had to be on.

Regards,
Jim Scoggins
usetabe 86 PT40
now M380 where "switches is super bitches"





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[Lawrence Thornell]

Bill
On my 90 SP the "2 switches above the driver" Jeff refers to are actually on
the top left of the lower dash. The top switch operates the front AC while
the one under it operates the rear one. They also operate the electric heat
front and rear
Lawrence Thornell in Eclectic, AL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Miller"
To:
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 7:39 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Front Air


>
>
> As mentioned, you do have the two switches on above the driver's head
> (front and rear A/C)?
>
> These switches control two relays in a metal enclosure, with the rig
> quiet you should be able to have someone switch them on/off and find
> the relays, usually near the breaker panel but not sure in the SP.
>
> - Jeff Miller
> http://www.wanderlodge.net
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Rowe"
> wrote:
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>> Jeff & All, I dropped the cover, no power, checked behind the
> braker good power, found box where two hots and commons connect and
> go out as one each + ground to unit on roof, no power coming in. must
> be another breaker somewhere. between main braker box and junction
> box. I don't think the wall thermostat is in the involved with air
> conditioning.
>> I am writing on PDA so please excuse errors .
>> Bill 90sp36
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[scoggins_jim]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mw88fc" <mw88fc@y...> wrote:
>
> speaking of switches,
>
> I suppose the switch above the driver could have gone bad.. could
this cause it?
>
> mark walk
>
> 88fc
>
> switches is super bitches"

could do it but probably not like this is the problem.

turn the switches on and check for 120volts at the airconditioner

[Bill Rowe]

Thanks Lawrence & all that responded,
I had come to the conclution that my caoch was differnent from all
the rest. The switches everyone was talking about were just not there.
Well, this morning I sat back down in the seat and relaxed and just
let my eyes roam over the dash. I noticed that the drapes, which I
keep closed when not in use, touched the the very top of the lower
left (on the wall beside the driver) panel of switches. I reached over
and moved the drape and guess what I found. Boy do I feel dumb.
Problem solved, that is after I put the coach back together.
You guys don't know how much I appreciate this group. Thanks Ernie.
Bill AR 90sp36

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Lawrence Thornell"
wrote:
> Bill
> On my 90 SP the "2 switches above the driver" Jeff refers to are
actually on
> the top left of the lower dash. The top switch operates the front
AC while
> the one under it operates the rear one. They also operate the
electric heat
> front and rear
> Lawrence Thornell in Eclectic, AL