New Tires

[erniecarpet@...]

Leroy- a couple of years ago, we were coming back from the RIV, and had to
slow down for traffic. Brenda noticed a strange noise from her side of the
coach. Comes to find out that the steel had separated from the tread and thus-
new
tires were installed on our coach. The pain of writing the check was less then
the upcoming blowout that might have taken us all out.

Ernie Ekberg
83 PT40
Livingston, Montana



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[jwasnewski]

Well, installing six new tires on the back of a WB-40 is akin to
sitting on a tack---very painful---but it did not happen one day to
soon! I've read the posts and they were correct. I could not believe
the extent of sidewall cracking when the tires were being removed from
the rims.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL

[Gardner Yeaw]

Leroy,
From your post I get the impression the cracking was not apparent
with a visual inspection with the tires on the coach. Is that
correct?

Gardner
78FC33

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jwasnewski"
wrote:
>
> Well, installing six new tires on the back of a WB-40 is akin to
> sitting on a tack---very painful---but it did not happen one day
to
> soon! I've read the posts and they were correct. I could not
believe
> the extent of sidewall cracking when the tires were being removed
from
> the rims.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>

[Leroy Eckert]

Gardner:

That is correct! I carefully inspect my coach in all areas on a cycle basis. I
knew the rear tires were old (DOT codes) and below I will give the age and what
I found so others can evaluate their position. Some things I noticed I do not
understand.
On the last two trips approx 2000 miles I lost a few deco lug nut covers. I
wondered why? I found out when the technician removed the wheels. 4 of the lug
nuts on the duals on each side were hand tight. Understand that I have put
20,000 miles on this coach with very few problems. I never considered checking
the lug nuts, in fact I do not have the tools to do the job. Perhaps someone on
this forum can shed light about keeping your lug nuts tight. Do I need an 11/2"
socket and a five foot bar or what? How did those lugs get loose?

As for the tires. The tag and outside dual tires were Michelen 12R 22.5 ZX
9years old with minor visual checking. Most of the noticable checking was
evident on the radius around the cap. Since I could not readily inspect the
sidewalls of the interior duals I had not idea as to their quality. The inside
tires on the duals were 6 years old. The sidewalls of the inside tires were
absolute trash, ready to go boom. Anyone have any idea on that? Three years
younger than the outside tires and no sun? Can't blame the ozone layer or UV
for that deal.

That tack feels better now. After all, the family rides in the bus.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL




----- Original Message -----
From: Gardner Yeaw
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:15 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Tires


Leroy,
From your post I get the impression the cracking was not apparent
with a visual inspection with the tires on the coach. Is that
correct?

Gardner
78FC33

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jwasnewski"
wrote:
>
> Well, installing six new tires on the back of a WB-40 is akin to
> sitting on a tack---very painful---but it did not happen one day
to
> soon! I've read the posts and they were correct. I could not
believe
> the extent of sidewall cracking when the tires were being removed
from
> the rims.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>





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[Rob Robinson]

Leroy I saw the same thing once before. A guy parked next to us and after
about an hour or so an outside dually blew. When he took it off the inside
dually looked absolutely horrid. It had more checking and deterioration than
the outside one. They were both the same age. Can't explain it.

On 16/11/06, Leroy Eckert wrote:
>
>
> Gardner:
>
> That is correct! I carefully inspect my coach in all areas on a cycle
> basis. I knew the rear tires were old (DOT codes) and below I will give the
> age and what I found so others can evaluate their position. Some things I
> noticed I do not understand.
> On the last two trips approx 2000 miles I lost a few deco lug nut covers.
> I wondered why? I found out when the technician removed the wheels. 4 of the
> lug nuts on the duals on each side were hand tight. Understand that I have
> put 20,000 miles on this coach with very few problems. I never considered
> checking the lug nuts, in fact I do not have the tools to do the job.
> Perhaps someone on this forum can shed light about keeping your lug nuts
> tight. Do I need an 11/2" socket and a five foot bar or what? How did those
> lugs get loose?
>
> As for the tires. The tag and outside dual tires were Michelen 12R 22.5 ZX
> 9years old with minor visual checking. Most of the noticable checking was
> evident on the radius around the cap. Since I could not readily inspect the
> sidewalls of the interior duals I had not idea as to their quality. The
> inside tires on the duals were 6 years old. The sidewalls of the inside
> tires were absolute trash, ready to go boom. Anyone have any idea on that?
> Three years younger than the outside tires and no sun? Can't blame the ozone
> layer or UV for that deal.
>
> That tack feels better now. After all, the family rides in the bus.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gardner Yeaw
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:15 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Tires
>
> Leroy,
> From your post I get the impression the cracking was not apparent
> with a visual inspection with the tires on the coach. Is that
> correct?
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> "jwasnewski"
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, installing six new tires on the back of a WB-40 is akin to
> > sitting on a tack---very painful---but it did not happen one day
> to
> > soon! I've read the posts and they were correct. I could not
> believe
> > the extent of sidewall cracking when the tires were being removed
> from
> > the rims.
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Niceville, FL
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


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[Leroy Eckert]

Rob:
Perhaps some things are to be left unexplained. I take care of my bus. I
watched the removal of the tires for a reason. I guess what I saw tells me to
reserve $70.00 per month and change 8 tires every 5 years whether they need it
or not. Frankly, what I saw wasn't pretty. I cannot ride my family around on
that kind of tire.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL








----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Robinson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Tires


Leroy I saw the same thing once before. A guy parked next to us and after
about an hour or so an outside dually blew. When he took it off the inside
dually looked absolutely horrid. It had more checking and deterioration than
the outside one. They were both the same age. Can't explain it.

On 16/11/06, Leroy Eckert wrote:
>
>
> Gardner:
>
> That is correct! I carefully inspect my coach in all areas on a cycle
> basis. I knew the rear tires were old (DOT codes) and below I will give the
> age and what I found so others can evaluate their position. Some things I
> noticed I do not understand.
> On the last two trips approx 2000 miles I lost a few deco lug nut covers.
> I wondered why? I found out when the technician removed the wheels. 4 of the
> lug nuts on the duals on each side were hand tight. Understand that I have
> put 20,000 miles on this coach with very few problems. I never considered
> checking the lug nuts, in fact I do not have the tools to do the job.
> Perhaps someone on this forum can shed light about keeping your lug nuts
> tight. Do I need an 11/2" socket and a five foot bar or what? How did those
> lugs get loose?
>
> As for the tires. The tag and outside dual tires were Michelen 12R 22.5 ZX
> 9years old with minor visual checking. Most of the noticable checking was
> evident on the radius around the cap. Since I could not readily inspect the
> sidewalls of the interior duals I had not idea as to their quality. The
> inside tires on the duals were 6 years old. The sidewalls of the inside
> tires were absolute trash, ready to go boom. Anyone have any idea on that?
> Three years younger than the outside tires and no sun? Can't blame the ozone
> layer or UV for that deal.
>
> That tack feels better now. After all, the family rides in the bus.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gardner Yeaw
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:15 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Tires
>
> Leroy,
> From your post I get the impression the cracking was not apparent
> with a visual inspection with the tires on the coach. Is that
> correct?
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> "jwasnewski"
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, installing six new tires on the back of a WB-40 is akin to
> > sitting on a tack---very painful---but it did not happen one day
> to
> > soon! I've read the posts and they were correct. I could not
> believe
> > the extent of sidewall cracking when the tires were being removed
> from
> > the rims.
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Niceville, FL
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB

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[Leroy Eckert]

Yes sir, I have learned a valuable lesson. 5 years from the date of
installation and they are gone off my bus.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirors"
Niceville, FL






----- Original Message -----
From: erniecarpet@...
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] New Tires


Leroy- a couple of years ago, we were coming back from the RIV, and had to
slow down for traffic. Brenda noticed a strange noise from her side of the
coach. Comes to find out that the steel had separated from the tread and thus-
new
tires were installed on our coach. The pain of writing the check was less then
the upcoming blowout that might have taken us all out.

Ernie Ekberg
83 PT40
Livingston, Montana

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[Howard O. Truitt]

Leroy,
How old are the tires you are replacing.
Howard Truitt
Camilla, Ga.
86 PT40
"Under The Waterfall"

----- Original Message -----
From: jwasnewski
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:43 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] New Tires


Well, installing six new tires on the back of a WB-40 is akin to
sitting on a tack---very painful---but it did not happen one day to
soon! I've read the posts and they were correct. I could not believe
the extent of sidewall cracking when the tires were being removed from
the rims.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL






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[Howard O. Truitt]

I think you will find that the inside duals do not get checked properly. Lower
pressure can lead to higher tire temps and a faster breakdown of the inside
duals.
Howard Truitt
Camilla, Ga.
86 PT40

----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Robinson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Tires


Leroy I saw the same thing once before. A guy parked next to us and after
about an hour or so an outside dually blew. When he took it off the inside
dually looked absolutely horrid. It had more checking and deterioration than
the outside one. They were both the same age. Can't explain it.

On 16/11/06, Leroy Eckert wrote:
>
>
> Gardner:
>
> That is correct! I carefully inspect my coach in all areas on a cycle
> basis. I knew the rear tires were old (DOT codes) and below I will give the
> age and what I found so others can evaluate their position. Some things I
> noticed I do not understand.
> On the last two trips approx 2000 miles I lost a few deco lug nut covers.
> I wondered why? I found out when the technician removed the wheels. 4 of the
> lug nuts on the duals on each side were hand tight. Understand that I have
> put 20,000 miles on this coach with very few problems. I never considered
> checking the lug nuts, in fact I do not have the tools to do the job.
> Perhaps someone on this forum can shed light about keeping your lug nuts
> tight. Do I need an 11/2" socket and a five foot bar or what? How did those
> lugs get loose?
>
> As for the tires. The tag and outside dual tires were Michelen 12R 22.5 ZX
> 9years old with minor visual checking. Most of the noticable checking was
> evident on the radius around the cap. Since I could not readily inspect the
> sidewalls of the interior duals I had not idea as to their quality. The
> inside tires on the duals were 6 years old. The sidewalls of the inside
> tires were absolute trash, ready to go boom. Anyone have any idea on that?
> Three years younger than the outside tires and no sun? Can't blame the ozone
> layer or UV for that deal.
>
> That tack feels better now. After all, the family rides in the bus.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gardner Yeaw
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:15 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: New Tires
>
> Leroy,
> From your post I get the impression the cracking was not apparent
> with a visual inspection with the tires on the coach. Is that
> correct?
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> "jwasnewski"
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, installing six new tires on the back of a WB-40 is akin to
> > sitting on a tack---very painful---but it did not happen one day
> to
> > soon! I've read the posts and they were correct. I could not
> believe
> > the extent of sidewall cracking when the tires were being removed
> from
> > the rims.
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
> > Niceville, FL
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>

--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB

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