Air Step

[pattypape]

We returned home after over three months on the road.
The Bird performed nearly perfectly, thanks to all who helped us
in our first year of ownership.
We did not read the forum during that time,
Surprized to see that it self destructed.
But we will never give up on the Bird or asking questions.

We have a Clippard dealer near our home that has seals for the air
step cylinder.

But we are confused about the air control switch.
Who is the manufacturer?? Is there a gasket and seal kit available??
We think a solinoid is hanging up intermittently.

Thanks Again,

Bill 88 FC Michigan

[Stephen Birtles]

original was made by ARO now owned by parker-hannifin all parts still
available .Best bet is to remove solenoid and take it to the "Parker
Hannifin Store " and let them match it up
Stephen 77fc35
http://www.capeinnovation.com




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
wrote:
>
>
>
> We returned home after over three months on the road.
> The Bird performed nearly perfectly, thanks to all who helped us
> in our first year of ownership.
> We did not read the forum during that time,
> Surprized to see that it self destructed.
> But we will never give up on the Bird or asking questions.
>
> We have a Clippard dealer near our home that has seals for the air
> step cylinder.
>
> But we are confused about the air control switch.
> Who is the manufacturer?? Is there a gasket and seal kit available??
> We think a solinoid is hanging up intermittently.
>
> Thanks Again,
>
> Bill 88 FC Michigan

[Stephen Birtles]

original was made by ARO now owned by parker-hannifin all parts still
available .Best bet is to remove solenoid and take it to the "Parker
Hannifin Store " in most major cities and let them match it up
Stephen 77fc35
http://www.capeinnovation.com




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
wrote:
>
>
>
> We returned home after over three months on the road.
> The Bird performed nearly perfectly, thanks to all who helped us
> in our first year of ownership.
> We did not read the forum during that time,
> Surprized to see that it self destructed.
> But we will never give up on the Bird or asking questions.
>
> We have a Clippard dealer near our home that has seals for the air
> step cylinder.
>
> But we are confused about the air control switch.
> Who is the manufacturer?? Is there a gasket and seal kit available??
> We think a solinoid is hanging up intermittently.
>
> Thanks Again,
>
> Bill 88 FC Michigan

[mrdonut12]

Bill,
I had trouble with mine and had a local industrial repair company
overhaul the air cylinder. Took about an hour and they charged me 40
bucks. When that didn't fix it, I got a replacement air valve from
Randy DuPree at DuPree products in Florida.
The air valve didn't look like the original, but was easy to
install and now the steps work perfectly. I did get the wires hooked
up backwards, but that was easy to tell I'd made a mistake when I
opened the door and the steps retracted. LOL After switching the
wires around, it worked fine.

George Witt
81 FC 35
Lincoln, Nebraska


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
wrote:
>
>
>
> We returned home after over three months on the road.
> The Bird performed nearly perfectly, thanks to all who helped us
> in our first year of ownership.
> We did not read the forum during that time,
> Surprized to see that it self destructed.
> But we will never give up on the Bird or asking questions.
>
> We have a Clippard dealer near our home that has seals for the air
> step cylinder.
>
> But we are confused about the air control switch.
> Who is the manufacturer?? Is there a gasket and seal kit available??
> We think a solinoid is hanging up intermittently.
>
> Thanks Again,
>
> Bill 88 FC Michigan

[mw88fc]

Bill,

I will be curious to see your solution, as I have an 88 with a similar
intermitant step
problem .

One thing Ralph suggested was to remove the airlines by the step and shoot them
full
of a silicon lubricant. I did this once, and it did seem to help, but I did it
in sub zero
weather, and need to take another shot at it as i was so cold...i didnt do a
great job.
Another recomendation was to clip the wires that run to a weight sensor
directly
beneath the door and above the step. I guess this was an unnecessary saftey
feature
that can go bad and effect step opperations. Its intent was to keep the step
from
opening or closing when weight is on it.???

anyway ..please keep me informed as too your solution, as I wouldnt doubt our
same
vintage coaches have the same problem.....I will let you know if I get mine
working as
well.

ps I have dealt with a few other issues on my 88 that ii would be happy to
discuss..

1.overheating generator
2.oil leeks
3.throttle spring slippage
4. throtte position sensor....(controling transmisions ability to shift out of
park)
5..and many more.

thanks

mark walk
88fc
so caL

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mrdonut12" <mrdonut12@y...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I had trouble with mine and had a local industrial repair company
> overhaul the air cylinder. Took about an hour and they charged me 40
> bucks. When that didn't fix it, I got a replacement air valve from
> Randy DuPree at DuPree products in Florida.
> The air valve didn't look like the original, but was easy to
> install and now the steps work perfectly. I did get the wires hooked
> up backwards, but that was easy to tell I'd made a mistake when I
> opened the door and the steps retracted. LOL After switching the
> wires around, it worked fine.
>
> George Witt
> 81 FC 35
> Lincoln, Nebraska
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > We returned home after over three months on the road.
> > The Bird performed nearly perfectly, thanks to all who helped us
> > in our first year of ownership.
> > We did not read the forum during that time,
> > Surprized to see that it self destructed.
> > But we will never give up on the Bird or asking questions.
> >
> > We have a Clippard dealer near our home that has seals for the air
> > step cylinder.
> >
> > But we are confused about the air control switch.
> > Who is the manufacturer?? Is there a gasket and seal kit available??
> > We think a solinoid is hanging up intermittently.
> >
> > Thanks Again,
> >
> > Bill 88 FC Michigan

[randydupree]

i have the air valves in stock .randy@... owner
http://www.dupreeproducts.com
----- Original Message -----
From: mrdonut12
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 4:30 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Air Step



Bill,
I had trouble with mine and had a local industrial repair company
overhaul the air cylinder. Took about an hour and they charged me 40
bucks. When that didn't fix it, I got a replacement air valve from
Randy DuPree at DuPree products in Florida.
The air valve didn't look like the original, but was easy to
install and now the steps work perfectly. I did get the wires hooked
up backwards, but that was easy to tell I'd made a mistake when I
opened the door and the steps retracted. LOL After switching the
wires around, it worked fine.

George Witt
81 FC 35
Lincoln, Nebraska


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape"
wrote:
>
>
>
> We returned home after over three months on the road.
> The Bird performed nearly perfectly, thanks to all who helped us
> in our first year of ownership.
> We did not read the forum during that time,
> Surprized to see that it self destructed.
> But we will never give up on the Bird or asking questions.
>
> We have a Clippard dealer near our home that has seals for the air
> step cylinder.
>
> But we are confused about the air control switch.
> Who is the manufacturer?? Is there a gasket and seal kit available??
> We think a solinoid is hanging up intermittently.
>
> Thanks Again,
>
> Bill 88 FC Michigan





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[erniecarpet@...]

The cylinder is ok- it sounds more like the valve. I can put my finger on the
exhaust part and feel air coming out. Ernie- if an oring will fix it- thats
my kinda fix


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[Ralph L. Fullenwider]

Ernie:

The control valve could be passing air through the exhaust muffler, meaning
the spool is not seating fully or shifting fully. Of course an o-ring on
the spool or chamber could be bad too. Lots of stuff down there that can
leak. Another leaking point is the small cylinder that locks the step in
the out position. The cylinder rod gets bent and causes wear on the gland
nut and seals.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm

[The Whistleworks]

Clear DayJeff Miller, do you or anyone else know if the info on air step at the
Vintage Bird "Fixes" Site about I.R. "Alpha Valve" being interchangeable with
Clippar Valve on "older" Birds (including my 88FC) is correct? At the time
price was listed as $88.00 plus fittings.
Air leak is on end facing curb. Thanks for any insight you may be able to
offer, John Barry 88FC




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[Jeff Miller]

I have the valves, I'll email you.

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "The Whistleworks"
wrote:
>
> Clear DayJeff Miller, do you or anyone else know if the info on air
step at the Vintage Bird "Fixes" Site about I.R. "Alpha Valve" being
interchangeable with Clippar Valve on "older" Birds (including my
88FC) is correct? At the time price was listed as $88.00 plus
fittings.
> Air leak is on end facing curb. Thanks for any insight you may
be able to offer, John Barry 88FC
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>