Two questions: CCC on a 89, 36SP and Painting cabinets

[eujamfh]

Hello - I tried searching to see if my questions were previously
answered - and have not seen any replys that hit the mark exactly so I
figure I will ask.

1. Although each coach will certainly be different, is there concern
for CCC on a 1989 36SP? Unit I am looking at is pretty loaded with
extras...

2. Has anyone had experience painting the interior cabinets? I know
some folks may adore, but we hate some of the colored cabinets that
were used...is there a relatively easy and cheap way to alter the color?

Thanks in advance,
Matt

[Gregory OConnor]

Matt, CCC is that cargo carry capacity? As far as painting laminates. I
dont think I have ever seen a laminate painted very well. If you
dont like pink, just call it Mauve.
Vintage Bird site has a buyers check list you may want to look at.
There is a Forum member TomS in Southeast that has a nice sp for sale
and I am sure you will get an ear full from downunder about one in LV.
TomS may best give you advice on cargo capacity I think he has young
kids also.
http://vintagebirds.com/

Good luck on your search
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "eujamfh" <mfhopson@...> wrote:
>
> Hello - I tried searching to see if my questions were previously
> answered - and have not seen any replys that hit the mark exactly so I
> figure I will ask.
>
> 1. Although each coach will certainly be different, is there concern
> for CCC on a 1989 36SP? Unit I am looking at is pretty loaded with
> extras...
>
> 2. Has anyone had experience painting the interior cabinets? I know
> some folks may adore, but we hate some of the colored cabinets that
> were used...is there a relatively easy and cheap way to alter the
color?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Matt
>

[Donald Goodwin]

I HAVE HAD FORMICA CABINETS PAINTED BY SOMEONE WHO DOES TUB REFINISHING
ETC.



THIS WAS DONE IN MY OFFICE AND HAS HELD UP WELL



DONNY GOODWIN MONTGOMERY, AL

2003 LXI FORMER 67 FC, 82 PUSHER, 91 WB PUSHER.



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Matt, CCC is that cargo carry capacity? As far as painting laminates. I
dont think I have ever seen a laminate painted very well. If you
dont like pink, just call it Mauve.
Vintage Bird site has a buyers check list you may want to look at.
There is a Forum member TomS in Southeast that has a nice sp for sale
and I am sure you will get an ear full from downunder about one in LV.
TomS may best give you advice on cargo capacity I think he has young
kids also.
http://vintagebirds <http://vintagebirds.com/> .com/

Good luck on your search
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@
yahoogroups.com, "eujamfh" <mfhopson@...> wrote:
>
> Hello - I tried searching to see if my questions were previously
> answered - and have not seen any replys that hit the mark exactly so I
> figure I will ask.
>
> 1. Although each coach will certainly be different, is there concern
> for CCC on a 1989 36SP? Unit I am looking at is pretty loaded with
> extras...
>
> 2. Has anyone had experience painting the interior cabinets? I know
> some folks may adore, but we hate some of the colored cabinets that
> were used...is there a relatively easy and cheap way to alter the
color?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Matt
>





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[Ron & Patty]

Matt,

I can't tell you what the CCC on a an SP is, but I can tell you that
foot for foot it has more storage capacity than my PT. I assume I
could handle more weight with the extra axle, but don't know where I'd
put it.

I too thought the interiors of a bird were lacking something. When we
bought ours, I envisioned all the changes to be made. The first day
we bought it we met Ralph Fullenwider and he said to me, "don't change
anything on this coach for six months". I took his advice. Now it's
going on three years, and we haven't changed anything and I'm glad to
have listened to Ralph. Everything seems to grow on you with a little
time, and you come to realize how nice these busses are in their
original state.

Lastly, I think I recall reading here on the forum you can not or
should not paint laminate cabinets.

Ron, No. California
85PT36




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "eujamfh" <mfhopson@...> wrote:
>
> 1. Although each coach will certainly be different, is there concern
> for CCC on a 1989 36SP? Unit I am looking at is pretty loaded with
> extras...
>
> 2. Has anyone had experience painting the interior cabinets? I know
> some folks may adore, but we hate some of the colored cabinets that
> were used...is there a relatively easy and cheap way to alter the color?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Matt
>

[Mike Hohnstein]

Don't be too happy about the triple C on SPs. Weigh carefully. PTs have a tag
for a reason.
MH
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From: Ron & Patty
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 11:15 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Two questions: CCC on a 89, 36SP and Painting
cabinets


Matt,

I can't tell you what the CCC on a an SP is, but I can tell you that
foot for foot it has more storage capacity than my PT. I assume I
could handle more weight with the extra axle, but don't know where I'd
put it.

I too thought the interiors of a bird were lacking something. When we
bought ours, I envisioned all the changes to be made. The first day
we bought it we met Ralph Fullenwider and he said to me, "don't change
anything on this coach for six months". I took his advice. Now it's
going on three years, and we haven't changed anything and I'm glad to
have listened to Ralph. Everything seems to grow on you with a little
time, and you come to realize how nice these busses are in their
original state.

Lastly, I think I recall reading here on the forum you can not or
should not paint laminate cabinets.

Ron, No. California
85PT36

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "eujamfh" <mfhopson@...> wrote:
>
> 1. Although each coach will certainly be different, is there concern
> for CCC on a 1989 36SP? Unit I am looking at is pretty loaded with
> extras...
>
> 2. Has anyone had experience painting the interior cabinets? I know
> some folks may adore, but we hate some of the colored cabinets that
> were used...is there a relatively easy and cheap way to alter the color?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Matt
>





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[eujamfh]

Regardless of the coach (be it a BB, Newell, CC, Foretravel or high
end Monaco) whatever we end up with will be weighed before I sign the
check over. Same for an oil analysis. I really, really have a spot
in my heart for the older BB and Newells...but there is a "practicle"
side that talks about getting a mid-90's (with the cummins 300/400)
CC, Foretravel or Monaco (just their higher end units).

The funny thing (and it really is not funny from my chair) is all the
"potential coahces" that I am interested in....are no where near
Northern Virginia. ANd when I was stationed on the West coast...just
the opposite was true.

BTW - we sold a class C, Xplorer 27ft on a F-550 with the PSD and 4x4
this past summer. Great rig - but with twins, and two labs...and
liking the national parks (i.e. dry camping) and the fact we use it
for traveling to see relatives in New York and Minnisota...we are
looking at something with larger tanks. Course all the above class As
fit the bill...

I am curious how close the 36SPs are on weight...

Cheers,
Matt

P.S. - As always, thank you for taking the time to post a
response...the more I know, the better prepared I am to pull the
trigger when the right "deal" comes my way...


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
<MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
>
> Don't be too happy about the triple C on SPs. Weigh carefully.
PTs have a tag for a reason.
> MH

[Fred Hulse]

Matt
In my opinion the SP36 should not concern you about the carrying capacity,we had
a 91 SP36 and as I recall it was something around 2500 lbs. but it was too long
ago to recall.

Regarding painting the laminate,it seems you can get a prep chemical to use
prior to paint applying. I would check with a wood refinisher or paint
specialist.
Fred & Jeanne Hulse
Morristown Arizona
1997 Wanderlodge PT41

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[Gregory OConnor]

If you looked at Newell, Foretravel or Monaco and think they are
comparable to Blue bird, I suspect that you would probably be
satisfied with brush painting the laminates.


GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

yahoogroups.com, "eujamfh" <mfhopson@...> wrote:
>
> Regardless of the coach (be it a BB, Newell, CC, Foretravel or high
> end Monaco) whatever we end up with will be weighed before I sign
the
> check over. Same for an oil analysis. I really, really have a spot
> in my heart for the older BB and Newells...but there is
a "practicle"
> side that talks about getting a mid-90's (with the cummins 300/400)
> CC, Foretravel or Monaco (just their higher end units).
>
> The funny thing (and it really is not funny from my chair) is all
the
> "potential coahces" that I am interested in....are no where near
> Northern Virginia. ANd when I was stationed on the West
coast...just
> the opposite was true.
>
> BTW - we sold a class C, Xplorer 27ft on a F-550 with the PSD and
4x4
> this past summer. Great rig - but with twins, and two labs...and
> liking the national parks (i.e. dry camping) and the fact we use it
> for traveling to see relatives in New York and Minnisota...we are
> looking at something with larger tanks. Course all the above class
As
> fit the bill...
>
> I am curious how close the 36SPs are on weight...
>
> Cheers,
> Matt
>
> P.S. - As always, thank you for taking the time to post a
> response...the more I know, the better prepared I am to pull the
> trigger when the right "deal" comes my way...
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
> <MHOHNSTEIN@> wrote:
> >
> > Don't be too happy about the triple C on SPs. Weigh carefully.
> PTs have a tag for a reason.
> > MH
>

[birdshill123]

There really is no such thing as a high end Monaco. All come off the
same aassembly line with similar quality. Just a little more glitz on
some. Not much substance. They certainly are not in the same league as
the others you mentioned.

BNruce

1988 FC 35
"La Reina Gitana"

[Leroy Eckert]

Matt:

I have personally spray painted laminate material. I haven't tried it in the
confines of a bus but I'm certain it can be done.
I used Imrom auto paint over a well prepared primed surface and it worked great.
Typically, you can paint -almost - anything.

Rule of thumb; you can rush the painter but you cannot rush the paint. (smile)
Lots of prep time required.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 "Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL







----- Original Message -----
From: eujamfh
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 9:11 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Two questions: CCC on a 89, 36SP and Painting
cabinets


Hello - I tried searching to see if my questions were previously
answered - and have not seen any replys that hit the mark exactly so I
figure I will ask.

1. Although each coach will certainly be different, is there concern
for CCC on a 1989 36SP? Unit I am looking at is pretty loaded with
extras...

2. Has anyone had experience painting the interior cabinets? I know
some folks may adore, but we hate some of the colored cabinets that
were used...is there a relatively easy and cheap way to alter the color?

Thanks in advance,
Matt





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