Freeze protection heaters

[Ernest Ekberg]

While I was stopped due to the bad weather, I was doing a check on my
heaters. The kitchen heater was running but putting out no heat. I
took one of Brenda's hair dryers and put it in that compartment. Works
like a charm.
My rear heater by the hot water heater, the fan was barely moving.
Don't know why- these things are just 24 years old. Took the partition
out of that compartment and added a ceramic heater to that area.
Perhaps this was the problem I was having last year. Time to look for
new heaters. Anyone know where we can find small, compact heaters like
came in our coaches? Ernie-83PT40 in Buffalo, Wy, for a short time, I
hope

[Mike Hohnstein]

you talking electric or chassis units?
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Ernest Ekberg
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:45 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Freeze protection heaters


While I was stopped due to the bad weather, I was doing a check on my
heaters. The kitchen heater was running but putting out no heat. I
took one of Brenda's hair dryers and put it in that compartment. Works
like a charm.
My rear heater by the hot water heater, the fan was barely moving.
Don't know why- these things are just 24 years old. Took the partition
out of that compartment and added a ceramic heater to that area.
Perhaps this was the problem I was having last year. Time to look for
new heaters. Anyone know where we can find small, compact heaters like
came in our coaches? Ernie-83PT40 in Buffalo, Wy, for a short time, I
hope





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[ernieekberg@...>]

The little heaters behind the kitchen cabinets. Those worked really well, 20
years ago. Ernie-83PT40, 8 degrees outside wind from north 35-45-- like its
cold, man!
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Hohnstein
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Freeze protection heaters


you talking electric or chassis units?
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Ernest Ekberg
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:45 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Freeze protection heaters

While I was stopped due to the bad weather, I was doing a check on my
heaters. The kitchen heater was running but putting out no heat. I
took one of Brenda's hair dryers and put it in that compartment. Works
like a charm.
My rear heater by the hot water heater, the fan was barely moving.
Don't know why- these things are just 24 years old. Took the partition
out of that compartment and added a ceramic heater to that area.
Perhaps this was the problem I was having last year. Time to look for
new heaters. Anyone know where we can find small, compact heaters like
came in our coaches? Ernie-83PT40 in Buffalo, Wy, for a short time, I
hope

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[Pete Masterson]

I'm not sure what heaters you're wanting... the newer coaches use
"Perfectoe" electric heaters in the bathroom and under the kitchen
cabinets. See <http://www.electricsuppliesonline.com/pelhe.html> for
a description. These are available in 120 or 208/240V models. The
120V model is used in my coach.

For the hot-water radiator-type heat, (hydronic heating system) the
fans used are simple "pancake" fans available in 120V and 12V ratings
at places like Radio Shack. (Check to see what voltage is used on the
one you're replacing.) If the radiators aren't getting hot, then you
may have a valve set wrong, a blocked water line, or another problem.
Perhaps someone with a closer aged coach can make some suggestions.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Feb 1, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Ernest Ekberg wrote:

> While I was stopped due to the bad weather, I was doing a check on my
> heaters. The kitchen heater was running but putting out no heat. I
> took one of Brenda's hair dryers and put it in that compartment. Works
> like a charm.
> My rear heater by the hot water heater, the fan was barely moving.
> Don't know why- these things are just 24 years old. Took the partition
> out of that compartment and added a ceramic heater to that area.
> Perhaps this was the problem I was having last year. Time to look for
> new heaters. Anyone know where we can find small, compact heaters like
> came in our coaches? Ernie-83PT40 in Buffalo, Wy, for a short time, I
> hope
>



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[ernieekberg@...>]

These are the freeze protection heaters that are located in the hot water tank
area, under the kitchen sink, and in the fresh water compartment. Since my coach
is old, i was asking if anyone repleced these with newer more efficient models.
These are electric. Ernie-83PT40 in Wyoming
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Freeze protection heaters


I'm not sure what heaters you're wanting... the newer coaches use
"Perfectoe" electric heaters in the bathroom and under the kitchen
cabinets. See <http://www.electricsuppliesonline.com/pelhe.html> for
a description. These are available in 120 or 208/240V models. The
120V model is used in my coach.

For the hot-water radiator-type heat, (hydronic heating system) the
fans used are simple "pancake" fans available in 120V and 12V ratings
at places like Radio Shack. (Check to see what voltage is used on the
one you're replacing.) If the radiators aren't getting hot, then you
may have a valve set wrong, a blocked water line, or another problem.
Perhaps someone with a closer aged coach can make some suggestions.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

On Feb 1, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Ernest Ekberg wrote:

> While I was stopped due to the bad weather, I was doing a check on my
> heaters. The kitchen heater was running but putting out no heat. I
> took one of Brenda's hair dryers and put it in that compartment. Works
> like a charm.
> My rear heater by the hot water heater, the fan was barely moving.
> Don't know why- these things are just 24 years old. Took the partition
> out of that compartment and added a ceramic heater to that area.
> Perhaps this was the problem I was having last year. Time to look for
> new heaters. Anyone know where we can find small, compact heaters like
> came in our coaches? Ernie-83PT40 in Buffalo, Wy, for a short time, I
> hope
>

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[Terry Neal]

Ernie & Group,

My 82 PT doesn't have any of the heaters that you describe. Wish that
it did. All I have are some old Frostex heat tapes. Plugged one in a
while back & it immediately burned the plug off the end of the tape. No
heat tapes plugged in anymore.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34



ernieekberg@... wrote:

> These are the freeze protection heaters that are located in the hot
> water tank area, under the kitchen sink, and in the fresh water
> compartment. Since my coach is old, i was asking if anyone repleced
> these with newer more efficient models. These are electric.
> Ernie-83PT40 in Wyoming
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pete Masterson
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Freeze protection heaters
>
> I'm not sure what heaters you're wanting... the newer coaches use
> "Perfectoe" electric heaters in the bathroom and under the kitchen
> cabinets. See <http://www.electricsuppliesonline.com/pelhe.html
> <http://www.electricsuppliesonline.com/pelhe.html>> for
> a description. These are available in 120 or 208/240V models. The
> 120V model is used in my coach.
>
> For the hot-water radiator-type heat, (hydronic heating system) the
> fans used are simple "pancake" fans available in 120V and 12V ratings
> at places like Radio Shack. (Check to see what voltage is used on the
> one you're replacing.) If the radiators aren't getting hot, then you
> may have a valve set wrong, a blocked water line, or another problem.
> Perhaps someone with a closer aged coach can make some suggestions.
>
> Pete Masterson
> aeonix1@...
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
> El Sobrante, CA
>
> On Feb 1, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Ernest Ekberg wrote:
>
> > While I was stopped due to the bad weather, I was doing a check on my
> > heaters. The kitchen heater was running but putting out no heat. I
> > took one of Brenda's hair dryers and put it in that compartment. Works
> > like a charm.
> > My rear heater by the hot water heater, the fan was barely moving.
> > Don't know why- these things are just 24 years old. Took the partition
> > out of that compartment and added a ceramic heater to that area.
> > Perhaps this was the problem I was having last year. Time to look for
> > new heaters. Anyone know where we can find small, compact heaters like
> > came in our coaches? Ernie-83PT40 in Buffalo, Wy, for a short time, I
> > hope
> >
>
>
>
>



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[Gardner Yeaw]

I took those little heaters apart and fixed them. One had burned the
wire leading to the heater elememt, and the other just needed a
little cleaning and oil. They both run great now.

Gardner
78FC33


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> The little heaters behind the kitchen cabinets. Those worked
really well, 20 years ago. Ernie-83PT40, 8 degrees outside wind from
north 35-45-- like its cold, man!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Hohnstein
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Freeze protection heaters
>
>
> you talking electric or chassis units?
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ernest Ekberg
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:45 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Freeze protection heaters
>
> While I was stopped due to the bad weather, I was doing a check
on my
> heaters. The kitchen heater was running but putting out no heat.
I
> took one of Brenda's hair dryers and put it in that compartment.
Works
> like a charm.
> My rear heater by the hot water heater, the fan was barely
moving.
> Don't know why- these things are just 24 years old. Took the
partition
> out of that compartment and added a ceramic heater to that area.
> Perhaps this was the problem I was having last year. Time to
look for
> new heaters. Anyone know where we can find small, compact
heaters like
> came in our coaches? Ernie-83PT40 in Buffalo, Wy, for a short
time, I
> hope
>
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>
>
>
>
>
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>

[ernieekberg@...>]

terry- is that the light blue color plugs and wires that run who knows where?
Both my birds had those and I was afraid to plug those in because, 1- didn't
know if they worked, 2- did previous owners cut those somewhere, and 3- after 24
years- deterioration of those wires could possibly start a fire. So- I have
removed most of those wires when I was adding my pex tubing last summer.
Ernie-83PT40 in -4 Wyoming
----- Original Message -----
From: Terry Neal
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Freeze protection heaters


Ernie & Group,

My 82 PT doesn't have any of the heaters that you describe. Wish that
it did. All I have are some old Frostex heat tapes. Plugged one in a
while back & it immediately burned the plug off the end of the tape. No
heat tapes plugged in anymore.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34

ernieekberg@... wrote:

> These are the freeze protection heaters that are located in the hot
> water tank area, under the kitchen sink, and in the fresh water
> compartment. Since my coach is old, i was asking if anyone repleced
> these with newer more efficient models. These are electric.
> Ernie-83PT40 in Wyoming
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pete Masterson
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Freeze protection heaters
>
> I'm not sure what heaters you're wanting... the newer coaches use
> "Perfectoe" electric heaters in the bathroom and under the kitchen
> cabinets. See <http://www.electricsuppliesonline.com/pelhe.html
> <http://www.electricsuppliesonline.com/pelhe.html>> for
> a description. These are available in 120 or 208/240V models. The
> 120V model is used in my coach.
>
> For the hot-water radiator-type heat, (hydronic heating system) the
> fans used are simple "pancake" fans available in 120V and 12V ratings
> at places like Radio Shack. (Check to see what voltage is used on the
> one you're replacing.) If the radiators aren't getting hot, then you
> may have a valve set wrong, a blocked water line, or another problem.
> Perhaps someone with a closer aged coach can make some suggestions.
>
> Pete Masterson
> aeonix1@...
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
> El Sobrante, CA
>
> On Feb 1, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Ernest Ekberg wrote:
>
> > While I was stopped due to the bad weather, I was doing a check on my
> > heaters. The kitchen heater was running but putting out no heat. I
> > took one of Brenda's hair dryers and put it in that compartment. Works
> > like a charm.
> > My rear heater by the hot water heater, the fan was barely moving.
> > Don't know why- these things are just 24 years old. Took the partition
> > out of that compartment and added a ceramic heater to that area.
> > Perhaps this was the problem I was having last year. Time to look for
> > new heaters. Anyone know where we can find small, compact heaters like
> > came in our coaches? Ernie-83PT40 in Buffalo, Wy, for a short time, I
> > hope
> >
>
>
>
>

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[Terry Neal]

Yep, those are the wires for the heat tapes. I plugged the one in the
bathroom into it's outlet & it fried the plug right off in my hand.
They will all come out when I replace the water lines too. With the
PEX, you shouldn't really need them as long as you can maintain some
degree of heat tin the spaces where the water lines are located.

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40
74FC34



ernieekberg@... wrote:

> terry- is that the light blue color plugs and wires that run who knows
> where? Both my birds had those and I was afraid to plug those in
> because, 1- didn't know if they worked, 2- did previous owners cut
> those somewhere, and 3- after 24 years- deterioration of those wires
> could possibly start a fire. So- I have removed most of those wires
> when I was adding my pex tubing last summer. Ernie-83PT40 in -4 Wyoming
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Terry Neal
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Freeze protection heaters
>
> Ernie & Group,
>
> My 82 PT doesn't have any of the heaters that you describe. Wish that
> it did. All I have are some old Frostex heat tapes. Plugged one in a
> while back & it immediately burned the plug off the end of the tape. No
> heat tapes plugged in anymore.
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40
> 74FC34
>
> ernieekberg@... wrote:
>
> > These are the freeze protection heaters that are located in the hot
> > water tank area, under the kitchen sink, and in the fresh water
> > compartment. Since my coach is old, i was asking if anyone repleced
> > these with newer more efficient models. These are electric.
> > Ernie-83PT40 in Wyoming
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Pete Masterson
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>
> >
> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Freeze protection heaters
> >
> > I'm not sure what heaters you're wanting... the newer coaches use
> > "Perfectoe" electric heaters in the bathroom and under the kitchen
> > cabinets. See <http://www.electricsuppliesonline.com/pelhe.html
> <http://www.electricsuppliesonline.com/pelhe.html>
> > <http://www.electricsuppliesonline.com/pelhe.html
> <http://www.electricsuppliesonline.com/pelhe.html>>> for
> > a description. These are available in 120 or 208/240V models. The
> > 120V model is used in my coach.
> >
> > For the hot-water radiator-type heat, (hydronic heating system) the
> > fans used are simple "pancake" fans available in 120V and 12V ratings
> > at places like Radio Shack. (Check to see what voltage is used on the
> > one you're replacing.) If the radiators aren't getting hot, then you
> > may have a valve set wrong, a blocked water line, or another problem.
> > Perhaps someone with a closer aged coach can make some suggestions.
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > aeonix1@...
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
> > El Sobrante, CA
> >
> > On Feb 1, 2007, at 12:45 PM, Ernest Ekberg wrote:
> >
> > > While I was stopped due to the bad weather, I was doing a check on my
> > > heaters. The kitchen heater was running but putting out no heat. I
> > > took one of Brenda's hair dryers and put it in that compartment. Works
> > > like a charm.
> > > My rear heater by the hot water heater, the fan was barely moving.
> > > Don't know why- these things are just 24 years old. Took the partition
> > > out of that compartment and added a ceramic heater to that area.
> > > Perhaps this was the problem I was having last year. Time to look for
> > > new heaters. Anyone know where we can find small, compact heaters like
> > > came in our coaches? Ernie-83PT40 in Buffalo, Wy, for a short time, I
> > > hope
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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[ernieekberg@...>]

Hi Gardner- I have operated on those heaters and have come to the conclusion
that they are terminal. the housings will not hold the small squirrel cage and
the wiring is toast. One of the squirrel cages is so far out of round that when
we had a guest stay in the coach, he said he would get a motel instead of
staying "in that coach, again" Yea- WE know who you are~ Ernie -83PT40 in
Wyoming
----- Original Message -----
From: Gardner Yeaw
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:43 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Freeze protection heaters


I took those little heaters apart and fixed them. One had burned the
wire leading to the heater elememt, and the other just needed a
little cleaning and oil. They both run great now.

Gardner
78FC33

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> The little heaters behind the kitchen cabinets. Those worked
really well, 20 years ago. Ernie-83PT40, 8 degrees outside wind from
north 35-45-- like its cold, man!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Hohnstein
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Freeze protection heaters
>
>
> you talking electric or chassis units?
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ernest Ekberg
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:45 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Freeze protection heaters
>
> While I was stopped due to the bad weather, I was doing a check
on my
> heaters. The kitchen heater was running but putting out no heat.
I
> took one of Brenda's hair dryers and put it in that compartment.
Works
> like a charm.
> My rear heater by the hot water heater, the fan was barely
moving.
> Don't know why- these things are just 24 years old. Took the
partition
> out of that compartment and added a ceramic heater to that area.
> Perhaps this was the problem I was having last year. Time to
look for
> new heaters. Anyone know where we can find small, compact
heaters like
> came in our coaches? Ernie-83PT40 in Buffalo, Wy, for a short
time, I
> hope
>
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>
>
>
>
>
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