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03-27-2007, 01:41
Post: #11
Roof vent leak
I have never heard of or spoken to an "OLD" Swift driver!
Bob 93pt40-Illinois..


> Single and Multiengine Land Instrument rated Private Pilot, old
aerobatic Swift driver.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Harvie
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Roof vent leak
>
> Leroy. Although JB weld has been around for about 40 years or so. I
have never been a beliver, of quick fixes. That is untill the oil pan
in my plow truck started leaking.lol I was looking at jacking up the
engine, to remove the pan, but instead, I sanded it down to shiney
metal, cleaned it with carb clean and threw a coat of that on. Now I
swear by it, for certain applications. It dosen't work too good for
anything that needs structural support, but I'll bet it would work
real well as a liner on a battery box. I'll bet that roof has Rivnuts
too, I'll pull one out and look. Mabaglass works good on those
airplane door panels too. It's fiberglass combined with bondo.Oh and
btw, how did you make out on your fuel gauge problem ?
> Jimmy Harvie
> Leroy Eckert wrote: 82 FC 35 SB Boston I do not
know for certain about the plate screws because I have not had the
problem. If I took a guess, it would be that the screws screw into
Rivnuts. As for the blue and white epoxy, it works great until UV
tears it up. It is paintable.
> Depending upon the material, there is a product out there called
Plastic Weld available at O'Reillys that works well if applied
properly. I have used it on plastic interior parts on the airplane
with excellent results. It is paintable.
> Another deal is to use JB Quick on fiberglass cracks if properly
prepared, the cracks stop. Just some info from a person who is off
the chart on these things and has good results.
>
> Note: Properly prepared is the operative word. You can hurry the
painter, but you cannot hurry the paint.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Harvie
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 12:58 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Roof vent leak
>
> I was on top of my bus, last week, cleaning out the storage pods,
and I noticed 3 things. I had a small crack in one of the vents, the
diamond plate was loose, and 2 of the brackets that hold those 3
bullhorns on, were broken. Yesterday I went back up, tightened up the
screws on the plate. I'm not sure if they have nuts on the other end,
but I thought I was going to have to drill oversize and install
oversize screws. They were all loose, some I got 8 or 9 turns out of
the screwdriver, but they all tightened up nice and tight. For the
crack in the vent, I cleaned it down with Enamel Reducer, and used
that 2 part liquid epoxy. You can get it in any auto parts store, and
I'm not sure but maybe Wally World has it too. Just look for the 2
plastic syringes tied together. One part is blue, one clear. When you
mix the two, it turns milky white, then about 20 seconds later, it
turns clear. I applied it with a small Artists brush. I think this is
a good way to go. It is thick
> enough, so if you have gaps, you can bridge them and I think would
add strenght.Just remember it dires in about a minute, so don't mix
more than you can use in that time. Not sure if it's paintable, or
not I threw the package out a long time ago. I plan on adding a
Fantastic fan in that hole a little later, but for now I have 2
lists. One's a" want" list, and one's a "need" list. I'm doing the
need list first, driveline maintanence, new tires etc. I may
fabricate new brackets, for those Bullhorns, I don't think those are
heavy enough. I may point them down too, to keep the debris out.
> Jimmy Harvie
> 82FC 35 SB
> Boston Ma.
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03-27-2007, 07:59
Post: #12
Roof vent leak
Hey again Bob:
This is not BB speak but I guess one statement will not be a problem.
Your statement is far closer to correct than not. It got me to thinking about
the good old days. There were 6 of us with Swift's in So Cal that used to dog
fight out around Joshua Tree and fly formation at small air shows back 20
something years ago. There are one aircraft and two pilots living today. 4
planted themselves for various reasons outside of show flight, one is in his
80's and myself. I sold my Swift to a fellow who ran it into the big rock North
of Cable Airport in So Cal many years ago. Not very good odds. I have one copy
of Plane & Pilot magazine in which my aircraft was the cover girl and centerfold
feature, and a lot of fond memories of those days. Sad but true.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL







----- Original Message -----
From: Bob & Carol Howald`
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:41 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Roof vent leak


I have never heard of or spoken to an "OLD" Swift driver!
Bob 93pt40-Illinois..

> Single and Multiengine Land Instrument rated Private Pilot, old
aerobatic Swift driver.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Harvie
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Roof vent leak
>
> Leroy. Although JB weld has been around for about 40 years or so. I
have never been a beliver, of quick fixes. That is untill the oil pan
in my plow truck started leaking.lol I was looking at jacking up the
engine, to remove the pan, but instead, I sanded it down to shiney
metal, cleaned it with carb clean and threw a coat of that on. Now I
swear by it, for certain applications. It dosen't work too good for
anything that needs structural support, but I'll bet it would work
real well as a liner on a battery box. I'll bet that roof has Rivnuts
too, I'll pull one out and look. Mabaglass works good on those
airplane door panels too. It's fiberglass combined with bondo.Oh and
btw, how did you make out on your fuel gauge problem ?
> Jimmy Harvie
> Leroy Eckert wrote: 82 FC 35 SB Boston I do not
know for certain about the plate screws because I have not had the
problem. If I took a guess, it would be that the screws screw into
Rivnuts. As for the blue and white epoxy, it works great until UV
tears it up. It is paintable.
> Depending upon the material, there is a product out there called
Plastic Weld available at O'Reillys that works well if applied
properly. I have used it on plastic interior parts on the airplane
with excellent results. It is paintable.
> Another deal is to use JB Quick on fiberglass cracks if properly
prepared, the cracks stop. Just some info from a person who is off
the chart on these things and has good results.
>
> Note: Properly prepared is the operative word. You can hurry the
painter, but you cannot hurry the paint.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Harvie
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 12:58 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Roof vent leak
>
> I was on top of my bus, last week, cleaning out the storage pods,
and I noticed 3 things. I had a small crack in one of the vents, the
diamond plate was loose, and 2 of the brackets that hold those 3
bullhorns on, were broken. Yesterday I went back up, tightened up the
screws on the plate. I'm not sure if they have nuts on the other end,
but I thought I was going to have to drill oversize and install
oversize screws. They were all loose, some I got 8 or 9 turns out of
the screwdriver, but they all tightened up nice and tight. For the
crack in the vent, I cleaned it down with Enamel Reducer, and used
that 2 part liquid epoxy. You can get it in any auto parts store, and
I'm not sure but maybe Wally World has it too. Just look for the 2
plastic syringes tied together. One part is blue, one clear. When you
mix the two, it turns milky white, then about 20 seconds later, it
turns clear. I applied it with a small Artists brush. I think this is
a good way to go. It is thick
> enough, so if you have gaps, you can bridge them and I think would
add strenght.Just remember it dires in about a minute, so don't mix
more than you can use in that time. Not sure if it's paintable, or
not I threw the package out a long time ago. I plan on adding a
Fantastic fan in that hole a little later, but for now I have 2
lists. One's a" want" list, and one's a "need" list. I'm doing the
need list first, driveline maintanence, new tires etc. I may
fabricate new brackets, for those Bullhorns, I don't think those are
heavy enough. I may point them down too, to keep the debris out.
> Jimmy Harvie
> 82FC 35 SB
> Boston Ma.
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03-27-2007, 08:43
Post: #13
Roof vent leak
Leroy,
You might be interested in where I live..
Frontier Air Park


a.. Gated neighborhood of 600 acres and 117 properties.
a.. Runway: 2,600 feet plus 1,000 feet of paving for overruns.
a.. Streets: 50-foot-wide swaths so cars can share the space with taxiing
airplanes.
For pictures of vintage, military and commercial planes at the airpark, go to
[url]www.frontierairpark.org<[/url]http://www.frontierairpark.org/>.

Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA

----- Original Message -----
From: Leroy Eckert
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Roof vent leak


Hey again Bob:
This is not BB speak but I guess one statement will not be a problem.
Your statement is far closer to correct than not. It got me to thinking about
the good old days. There were 6 of us with Swift's in So Cal that used to dog
fight out around Joshua Tree and fly formation at small air shows back 20
something years ago. There are one aircraft and two pilots living today. 4
planted themselves for various reasons outside of show flight, one is in his
80's and myself. I sold my Swift to a fellow who ran it into the big rock North
of Cable Airport in So Cal many years ago. Not very good odds. I have one copy
of Plane & Pilot magazine in which my aircraft was the cover girl and centerfold
feature, and a lot of fond memories of those days. Sad but true.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob & Carol Howald`
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:41 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Roof vent leak

I have never heard of or spoken to an "OLD" Swift driver!
Bob 93pt40-Illinois..

> Single and Multiengine Land Instrument rated Private Pilot, old
aerobatic Swift driver.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Harvie
> To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Roof vent leak
>
> Leroy. Although JB weld has been around for about 40 years or so. I
have never been a beliver, of quick fixes. That is untill the oil pan
in my plow truck started leaking.lol I was looking at jacking up the
engine, to remove the pan, but instead, I sanded it down to shiney
metal, cleaned it with carb clean and threw a coat of that on. Now I
swear by it, for certain applications. It dosen't work too good for
anything that needs structural support, but I'll bet it would work
real well as a liner on a battery box. I'll bet that roof has Rivnuts
too, I'll pull one out and look. Mabaglass works good on those
airplane door panels too. It's fiberglass combined with bondo.Oh and
btw, how did you make out on your fuel gauge problem ?
> Jimmy Harvie
> Leroy Eckert wrote: 82 FC 35 SB Boston I do not
know for certain about the plate screws because I have not had the
problem. If I took a guess, it would be that the screws screw into
Rivnuts. As for the blue and white epoxy, it works great until UV
tears it up. It is paintable.
> Depending upon the material, there is a product out there called
Plastic Weld available at O'Reillys that works well if applied
properly. I have used it on plastic interior parts on the airplane
with excellent results. It is paintable.
> Another deal is to use JB Quick on fiberglass cracks if properly
prepared, the cracks stop. Just some info from a person who is off
the chart on these things and has good results.
>
> Note: Properly prepared is the operative word. You can hurry the
painter, but you cannot hurry the paint.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Harvie
> To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 12:58 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Roof vent leak
>
> I was on top of my bus, last week, cleaning out the storage pods,
and I noticed 3 things. I had a small crack in one of the vents, the
diamond plate was loose, and 2 of the brackets that hold those 3
bullhorns on, were broken. Yesterday I went back up, tightened up the
screws on the plate. I'm not sure if they have nuts on the other end,
but I thought I was going to have to drill oversize and install
oversize screws. They were all loose, some I got 8 or 9 turns out of
the screwdriver, but they all tightened up nice and tight. For the
crack in the vent, I cleaned it down with Enamel Reducer, and used
that 2 part liquid epoxy. You can get it in any auto parts store, and
I'm not sure but maybe Wally World has it too. Just look for the 2
plastic syringes tied together. One part is blue, one clear. When you
mix the two, it turns milky white, then about 20 seconds later, it
turns clear. I applied it with a small Artists brush. I think this is
a good way to go. It is thick
> enough, so if you have gaps, you can bridge them and I think would
add strenght.Just remember it dires in about a minute, so don't mix
more than you can use in that time. Not sure if it's paintable, or
not I threw the package out a long time ago. I plan on adding a
Fantastic fan in that hole a little later, but for now I have 2
lists. One's a" want" list, and one's a "need" list. I'm doing the
need list first, driveline maintanence, new tires etc. I may
fabricate new brackets, for those Bullhorns, I don't think those are
heavy enough. I may point them down too, to keep the debris out.
> Jimmy Harvie
> 82FC 35 SB
> Boston Ma.
>
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03-27-2007, 11:38
Post: #14
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Hey Dick:
I'll go back an get your e-mail address and talk to you about it off forum.
Thanks,

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL





----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Hayden
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Roof vent leak


Leroy,
You might be interested in where I live..
Frontier Air Park

a.. Gated neighborhood of 600 acres and 117 properties.
a.. Runway: 2,600 feet plus 1,000 feet of paving for overruns.
a.. Streets: 50-foot-wide swaths so cars can share the space with taxiing
airplanes.
For pictures of vintage, military and commercial planes at the airpark, go to
[url]www.frontierairpark.org<[/url]http://www.frontierairpark.org/>.

Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA

----- Original Message -----
From: Leroy Eckert
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Roof vent leak

Hey again Bob:
This is not BB speak but I guess one statement will not be a problem.
Your statement is far closer to correct than not. It got me to thinking about
the good old days. There were 6 of us with Swift's in So Cal that used to dog
fight out around Joshua Tree and fly formation at small air shows back 20
something years ago. There are one aircraft and two pilots living today. 4
planted themselves for various reasons outside of show flight, one is in his
80's and myself. I sold my Swift to a fellow who ran it into the big rock North
of Cable Airport in So Cal many years ago. Not very good odds. I have one copy
of Plane & Pilot magazine in which my aircraft was the cover girl and centerfold
feature, and a lot of fond memories of those days. Sad but true.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob & Carol Howald`
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 7:41 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Roof vent leak

I have never heard of or spoken to an "OLD" Swift driver!
Bob 93pt40-Illinois..

> Single and Multiengine Land Instrument rated Private Pilot, old
aerobatic Swift driver.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Harvie
> To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Roof vent leak
>
> Leroy. Although JB weld has been around for about 40 years or so. I
have never been a beliver, of quick fixes. That is untill the oil pan
in my plow truck started leaking.lol I was looking at jacking up the
engine, to remove the pan, but instead, I sanded it down to shiney
metal, cleaned it with carb clean and threw a coat of that on. Now I
swear by it, for certain applications. It dosen't work too good for
anything that needs structural support, but I'll bet it would work
real well as a liner on a battery box. I'll bet that roof has Rivnuts
too, I'll pull one out and look. Mabaglass works good on those
airplane door panels too. It's fiberglass combined with bondo.Oh and
btw, how did you make out on your fuel gauge problem ?
> Jimmy Harvie
> Leroy Eckert wrote: 82 FC 35 SB Boston I do not
know for certain about the plate screws because I have not had the
problem. If I took a guess, it would be that the screws screw into
Rivnuts. As for the blue and white epoxy, it works great until UV
tears it up. It is paintable.
> Depending upon the material, there is a product out there called
Plastic Weld available at O'Reillys that works well if applied
properly. I have used it on plastic interior parts on the airplane
with excellent results. It is paintable.
> Another deal is to use JB Quick on fiberglass cracks if properly
prepared, the cracks stop. Just some info from a person who is off
the chart on these things and has good results.
>
> Note: Properly prepared is the operative word. You can hurry the
painter, but you cannot hurry the paint.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: James Harvie
> To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 12:58 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Roof vent leak
>
> I was on top of my bus, last week, cleaning out the storage pods,
and I noticed 3 things. I had a small crack in one of the vents, the
diamond plate was loose, and 2 of the brackets that hold those 3
bullhorns on, were broken. Yesterday I went back up, tightened up the
screws on the plate. I'm not sure if they have nuts on the other end,
but I thought I was going to have to drill oversize and install
oversize screws. They were all loose, some I got 8 or 9 turns out of
the screwdriver, but they all tightened up nice and tight. For the
crack in the vent, I cleaned it down with Enamel Reducer, and used
that 2 part liquid epoxy. You can get it in any auto parts store, and
I'm not sure but maybe Wally World has it too. Just look for the 2
plastic syringes tied together. One part is blue, one clear. When you
mix the two, it turns milky white, then about 20 seconds later, it
turns clear. I applied it with a small Artists brush. I think this is
a good way to go. It is thick
> enough, so if you have gaps, you can bridge them and I think would
add strenght.Just remember it dires in about a minute, so don't mix
more than you can use in that time. Not sure if it's paintable, or
not I threw the package out a long time ago. I plan on adding a
Fantastic fan in that hole a little later, but for now I have 2
lists. One's a" want" list, and one's a "need" list. I'm doing the
need list first, driveline maintanence, new tires etc. I may
fabricate new brackets, for those Bullhorns, I don't think those are
heavy enough. I may point them down too, to keep the debris out.
> Jimmy Harvie
> 82FC 35 SB
> Boston Ma.
>
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03-27-2007, 17:36
Post: #15
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It was a rental, with an electric Hobbs meter, who knows, maybe he shut off the
master switch, to try and cheat.

Leroy Eckert wrote: That can't be good, especially
on the engine and prop. There are those who have and those who will, all the
while asking why that horn was making so much noise. .

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: James Harvie
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Roof vent leak

What about a PA200R landing "gear up"?

Leroy Eckert wrote: Everthing is great. No complaints. The
bus is just fine. Talladega in 3 weeks. Don't need a surge protector there.
Oops, on second thought I may need one. LOL
The next time your 172 cracks at the nose cowling, use JB Weld and paint. You
will not believe the results.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville. FL
Single and Multiengine Land Instrument rated Private Pilot, old aerobatic Swift
driver.

----- Original Message -----
From: James Harvie
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Roof vent leak

Leroy. Although JB weld has been around for about 40 years or so. I have never
been a beliver, of quick fixes. That is untill the oil pan in my plow truck
started leaking.lol I was looking at jacking up the engine, to remove the pan,
but instead, I sanded it down to shiney metal, cleaned it with carb clean and
threw a coat of that on. Now I swear by it, for certain applications. It dosen't
work too good for anything that needs structural support, but I'll bet it would
work real well as a liner on a battery box. I'll bet that roof has Rivnuts too,
I'll pull one out and look. Mabaglass works good on those airplane door panels
too. It's fiberglass combined with bondo.Oh and btw, how did you make out on
your fuel gauge problem ?
Jimmy Harvie
Leroy Eckert wrote: 82 FC 35 SB Boston I do not know for
certain about the plate screws because I have not had the problem. If I took a
guess, it would be that the screws screw into Rivnuts. As for the blue and white
epoxy, it works great until UV tears it up. It is paintable.
Depending upon the material, there is a product out there called Plastic Weld
available at O'Reillys that works well if applied properly. I have used it on
plastic interior parts on the airplane with excellent results. It is paintable.
Another deal is to use JB Quick on fiberglass cracks if properly prepared, the
cracks stop. Just some info from a person who is off the chart on these things
and has good results.

Note: Properly prepared is the operative word. You can hurry the painter, but
you cannot hurry the paint.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: James Harvie
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 12:58 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Roof vent leak

I was on top of my bus, last week, cleaning out the storage pods, and I noticed
3 things. I had a small crack in one of the vents, the diamond plate was loose,
and 2 of the brackets that hold those 3 bullhorns on, were broken. Yesterday I
went back up, tightened up the screws on the plate. I'm not sure if they have
nuts on the other end, but I thought I was going to have to drill oversize and
install oversize screws. They were all loose, some I got 8 or 9 turns out of the
screwdriver, but they all tightened up nice and tight. For the crack in the
vent, I cleaned it down with Enamel Reducer, and used that 2 part liquid epoxy.
You can get it in any auto parts store, and I'm not sure but maybe Wally World
has it too. Just look for the 2 plastic syringes tied together. One part is
blue, one clear. When you mix the two, it turns milky white, then about 20
seconds later, it turns clear. I applied it with a small Artists brush. I think
this is a good way to go. It is thick
enough, so if you have gaps, you can bridge them and I think would add
strenght.Just remember it dires in about a minute, so don't mix more than you
can use in that time. Not sure if it's paintable, or not I threw the package out
a long time ago. I plan on adding a Fantastic fan in that hole a little later,
but for now I have 2 lists. One's a" want" list, and one's a "need" list. I'm
doing the need list first, driveline maintanence, new tires etc. I may fabricate
new brackets, for those Bullhorns, I don't think those are heavy enough. I may
point them down too, to keep the debris out.
Jimmy Harvie
82FC 35 SB
Boston Ma.

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Roof vent leak
Sorry, I forgot to sign off. Jimmy Harvie
82FC 35 SB Boston Ma.
James Harvie wrote: It was a rental, with
an electric Hobbs meter, who knows, maybe he shut off the master switch, to try
and cheat.

Leroy Eckert wrote: That can't be good, especially on the
engine and prop. There are those who have and those who will, all the while
asking why that horn was making so much noise. .

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: James Harvie
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Roof vent leak

What about a PA200R landing "gear up"?

Leroy Eckert wrote: Everthing is great. No complaints. The
bus is just fine. Talladega in 3 weeks. Don't need a surge protector there.
Oops, on second thought I may need one. LOL
The next time your 172 cracks at the nose cowling, use JB Weld and paint. You
will not believe the results.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville. FL
Single and Multiengine Land Instrument rated Private Pilot, old aerobatic Swift
driver.

----- Original Message -----
From: James Harvie
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Roof vent leak

Leroy. Although JB weld has been around for about 40 years or so. I have never
been a beliver, of quick fixes. That is untill the oil pan in my plow truck
started leaking.lol I was looking at jacking up the engine, to remove the pan,
but instead, I sanded it down to shiney metal, cleaned it with carb clean and
threw a coat of that on. Now I swear by it, for certain applications. It dosen't
work too good for anything that needs structural support, but I'll bet it would
work real well as a liner on a battery box. I'll bet that roof has Rivnuts too,
I'll pull one out and look. Mabaglass works good on those airplane door panels
too. It's fiberglass combined with bondo.Oh and btw, how did you make out on
your fuel gauge problem ?
Jimmy Harvie
Leroy Eckert wrote: 82 FC 35 SB Boston I do not know for
certain about the plate screws because I have not had the problem. If I took a
guess, it would be that the screws screw into Rivnuts. As for the blue and white
epoxy, it works great until UV tears it up. It is paintable.
Depending upon the material, there is a product out there called Plastic Weld
available at O'Reillys that works well if applied properly. I have used it on
plastic interior parts on the airplane with excellent results. It is paintable.
Another deal is to use JB Quick on fiberglass cracks if properly prepared, the
cracks stop. Just some info from a person who is off the chart on these things
and has good results.

Note: Properly prepared is the operative word. You can hurry the painter, but
you cannot hurry the paint.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: James Harvie
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 12:58 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Roof vent leak

I was on top of my bus, last week, cleaning out the storage pods, and I noticed
3 things. I had a small crack in one of the vents, the diamond plate was loose,
and 2 of the brackets that hold those 3 bullhorns on, were broken. Yesterday I
went back up, tightened up the screws on the plate. I'm not sure if they have
nuts on the other end, but I thought I was going to have to drill oversize and
install oversize screws. They were all loose, some I got 8 or 9 turns out of the
screwdriver, but they all tightened up nice and tight. For the crack in the
vent, I cleaned it down with Enamel Reducer, and used that 2 part liquid epoxy.
You can get it in any auto parts store, and I'm not sure but maybe Wally World
has it too. Just look for the 2 plastic syringes tied together. One part is
blue, one clear. When you mix the two, it turns milky white, then about 20
seconds later, it turns clear. I applied it with a small Artists brush. I think
this is a good way to go. It is thick
enough, so if you have gaps, you can bridge them and I think would add
strenght.Just remember it dires in about a minute, so don't mix more than you
can use in that time. Not sure if it's paintable, or not I threw the package out
a long time ago. I plan on adding a Fantastic fan in that hole a little later,
but for now I have 2 lists. One's a" want" list, and one's a "need" list. I'm
doing the need list first, driveline maintanence, new tires etc. I may fabricate
new brackets, for those Bullhorns, I don't think those are heavy enough. I may
point them down too, to keep the debris out.
Jimmy Harvie
82FC 35 SB
Boston Ma.

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