Painting where clearcoat has peeled

[Don Bradner]

Blue Thunder has peeling clearcoat all along the upper edges. I'm not likely to
spring for a full paint job, so my choices were to do nothing, or attempt some
spot repair.

The back cap was the worst, depending on angle and lighting. I tried some test
spots of fresh clear-coat, but the colors did not match, so I decided to paint.

Over the past couple of days, because we had good weather for it, I did the
largest area which is blue. Clearcoat was removed with plastic scraper and
220-grit sandpaper, then everything was sanded with 400-grit.

I used Dupont Nason 2K Ful-Thane urethane, which does not need a clearcoat.
Saves a lot of work and about half the cost. The results are not professional,
but more than adequate especially for an area 11 feet off the ground where
nobody is going to be looking at it closely.

I've put up a page with before/during/after pictures at
http://www.arcatapet.net/travel/painting.cfm

I probably won't get to the rest of the blue, or the red and gold portions,
until sometime this summer.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA

[bloomas]

----- Original Message -----
From: Don Bradner
To: wanderlodgeforum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:44 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting where clearcoat has peeled
Don Looks good to me.
Bob Loomas @hughes.net


Blue Thunder has peeling clearcoat all along the upper edges. I'm not likely
to spring for a full paint job, so my choices were to do nothing, or attempt
some spot repair.

The back cap was the worst, depending on angle and lighting. I tried some test
spots of fresh clear-coat, but the colors did not match, so I decided to paint.

Over the past couple of days, because we had good weather for it, I did the
largest area which is blue. Clearcoat was removed with plastic scraper and
220-grit sandpaper, then everything was sanded with 400-grit.

I used Dupont Nason 2K Ful-Thane urethane, which does not need a clearcoat.
Saves a lot of work and about half the cost. The results are not professional,
but more than adequate especially for an area 11 feet off the ground where
nobody is going to be looking at it closely.

I've put up a page with before/during/after pictures at
http://www.arcatapet.net/travel/painting.cfm

I probably won't get to the rest of the blue, or the red and gold portions,
until sometime this summer.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA





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[gnburke@...>]

Don, Good looking bus. Do you have a closer picture of the finished paint job,
as a little further out than the first pic., but closer than the last finished
pic. I have some of the same paint problems, along with some peeling. Am looking
for a (quick and cheep), way to get it to hold until next year. Have to many
other issures to deal with at present. BTY, were you ever in the USAF? G.Burke
77FC 31 Charlotte
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Bradner
To: wanderlodgeforum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 3:44 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting where clearcoat has peeled


Blue Thunder has peeling clearcoat all along the upper edges. I'm not likely
to spring for a full paint job, so my choices were to do nothing, or attempt
some spot repair.

The back cap was the worst, depending on angle and lighting. I tried some test
spots of fresh clear-coat, but the colors did not match, so I decided to paint.

Over the past couple of days, because we had good weather for it, I did the
largest area which is blue. Clearcoat was removed with plastic scraper and
220-grit sandpaper, then everything was sanded with 400-grit.

I used Dupont Nason 2K Ful-Thane urethane, which does not need a clearcoat.
Saves a lot of work and about half the cost. The results are not professional,
but more than adequate especially for an area 11 feet off the ground where
nobody is going to be looking at it closely.

I've put up a page with before/during/after pictures at
http://www.arcatapet.net/travel/painting.cfm

I probably won't get to the rest of the blue, or the red and gold portions,
until sometime this summer.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA





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[Don Bradner]

I'll see what I can do tomorrow. The first picture doesn't show how bad the
peeling was, and I fear a closeup may make my paint job look worse than it is,
but we'll see.

On 4/6/2007 at 5:11 PM gnburke@... wrote:

>Don, Good looking bus. Do you have a closer picture of the finished paint
>job, as a little further out than the first pic., but closer than the last
>finished pic. I have some of the same paint problems, along with some
>peeling. Am looking for a (quick and cheep), way to get it to hold until
>next year. Have to many other issures to deal with at present. BTY, were
>you ever in the USAF? G.Burke 77FC 31 Charlotte
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Bradner
> To: wanderlodgeforum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 3:44 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting where clearcoat has peeled
>
>
> Blue Thunder has peeling clearcoat all along the upper edges. I'm not
>likely to spring for a full paint job, so my choices were to do nothing,
>or attempt some spot repair.
>
> The back cap was the worst, depending on angle and lighting. I tried
>some test spots of fresh clear-coat, but the colors did not match, so I
>decided to paint.
>
> Over the past couple of days, because we had good weather for it, I did
>the largest area which is blue. Clearcoat was removed with plastic scraper
>and 220-grit sandpaper, then everything was sanded with 400-grit.
>
> I used Dupont Nason 2K Ful-Thane urethane, which does not need a
>clearcoat. Saves a lot of work and about half the cost. The results are
>not professional, but more than adequate especially for an area 11 feet
>off the ground where nobody is going to be looking at it closely.
>
> I've put up a page with before/during/after pictures at
>http://www.arcatapet.net/travel/painting.cfm
>
> I probably won't get to the rest of the blue, or the red and gold
>portions, until sometime this summer.
>
> Don Bradner
> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> Eureka, CA
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA

[Gregory OConnor]

Don, It looks good! some times you can clean the 'color coat' with
clay then re clearcoat. often the clearcoat failed because the
colorcoat degraded.
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner"
wrote:
>
> Blue Thunder has peeling clearcoat all along the upper edges. I'm
not likely to spring for a full paint job, so my choices were to do
nothing, or attempt some spot repair.
>
> The back cap was the worst, depending on angle and lighting. I
tried some test spots of fresh clear-coat, but the colors did not
match, so I decided to paint.
>
> Over the past couple of days, because we had good weather for it, I
did the largest area which is blue. Clearcoat was removed with
plastic scraper and 220-grit sandpaper, then everything was sanded
with 400-grit.
>
> I used Dupont Nason 2K Ful-Thane urethane, which does not need a
clearcoat. Saves a lot of work and about half the cost. The results
are not professional, but more than adequate especially for an area
11 feet off the ground where nobody is going to be looking at it
closely.
>
> I've put up a page with before/during/after pictures at
http://www.arcatapet.net/travel/painting.cfm
>
> I probably won't get to the rest of the blue, or the red and gold
portions, until sometime this summer.
>
> Don Bradner
> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> Eureka, CA
>

[Don Bradner]

Nope, army. 66-69, mostly in Iran and Ethiopia.

On 4/6/2007 at 5:11 PM gnburke@... wrote:

>BTY, were
>you ever in the USAF? G.Burke 77FC 31 Charlotte

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA

[Don Bradner]

I added a new picture at the bottom that approximates the view in the original
peeling picture. That original picture was taken by the inspector I hired to
look at the Bird before I had seen it.

It rained this morning, so I had to wait for it to dry some. There is still
water pooled below the marker lights in the picture.

On 4/6/2007 at 5:11 PM gnburke@... wrote:

>Don, Good looking bus. Do you have a closer picture of the finished paint
>job, as a little further out than the first pic., but closer than the last
>finished pic. I have some of the same paint problems, along with some
>peeling. Am looking for a (quick and cheep), way to get it to hold until
>next year. Have to many other issures to deal with at present. BTY, were
>you ever in the USAF? G.Burke 77FC 31 Charlotte
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Bradner
> To: wanderlodgeforum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 3:44 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting where clearcoat has peeled
>
>
> Blue Thunder has peeling clearcoat all along the upper edges. I'm not
>likely to spring for a full paint job, so my choices were to do nothing,
>or attempt some spot repair.
>
> The back cap was the worst, depending on angle and lighting. I tried
>some test spots of fresh clear-coat, but the colors did not match, so I
>decided to paint.
>
> Over the past couple of days, because we had good weather for it, I did
>the largest area which is blue. Clearcoat was removed with plastic scraper
>and 220-grit sandpaper, then everything was sanded with 400-grit.
>
> I used Dupont Nason 2K Ful-Thane urethane, which does not need a
>clearcoat. Saves a lot of work and about half the cost. The results are
>not professional, but more than adequate especially for an area 11 feet
>off the ground where nobody is going to be looking at it closely.
>
> I've put up a page with before/during/after pictures at
>http://www.arcatapet.net/travel/painting.cfm
>
> I probably won't get to the rest of the blue, or the red and gold
>portions, until sometime this summer.
>
> Don Bradner
> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> Eureka, CA
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA

[Leroy Eckert]

Base coat, clear coat is not really difficult to use. My bus got the crap beat
out of it in an SPI gail. I have repainted it and no one could ever find the
area if not previously known.

Your paint codes should be on the frame behind the engine above the bumper.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL



----- Original Message -----
From: Don Bradner
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting where clearcoat has peeled


I added a new picture at the bottom that approximates the view in the original
peeling picture. That original picture was taken by the inspector I hired to
look at the Bird before I had seen it.

It rained this morning, so I had to wait for it to dry some. There is still
water pooled below the marker lights in the picture.

On 4/6/2007 at 5:11 PM gnburke@... wrote:

>Don, Good looking bus. Do you have a closer picture of the finished paint
>job, as a little further out than the first pic., but closer than the last
>finished pic. I have some of the same paint problems, along with some
>peeling. Am looking for a (quick and cheep), way to get it to hold until
>next year. Have to many other issures to deal with at present. BTY, were
>you ever in the USAF? G.Burke 77FC 31 Charlotte
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Bradner
> To: wanderlodgeforum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 3:44 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting where clearcoat has peeled
>
>
> Blue Thunder has peeling clearcoat all along the upper edges. I'm not
>likely to spring for a full paint job, so my choices were to do nothing,
>or attempt some spot repair.
>
> The back cap was the worst, depending on angle and lighting. I tried
>some test spots of fresh clear-coat, but the colors did not match, so I
>decided to paint.
>
> Over the past couple of days, because we had good weather for it, I did
>the largest area which is blue. Clearcoat was removed with plastic scraper
>and 220-grit sandpaper, then everything was sanded with 400-grit.
>
> I used Dupont Nason 2K Ful-Thane urethane, which does not need a
>clearcoat. Saves a lot of work and about half the cost. The results are
>not professional, but more than adequate especially for an area 11 feet
>off the ground where nobody is going to be looking at it closely.
>
> I've put up a page with before/during/after pictures at
>http://www.arcatapet.net/travel/painting.cfm
>
> I probably won't get to the rest of the blue, or the red and gold
>portions, until sometime this summer.
>
> Don Bradner
> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> Eureka, CA
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
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Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA





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[gnburke@...>]

Didn't think that you were him, but I remember a fellow named Don from Eureka,
that I was stationed with when in Mass. Couldn't remember his last name, but I
will be 60 in August, and he was in our age group. Where did it go, 1967 to 1971
was only 4 yrs., but seems like an eternity ago. Good Luck with your project.
George Burke 77FC31 Charlotte
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Bradner
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2007 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Painting where clearcoat has peeled


Nope, army. 66-69, mostly in Iran and Ethiopia.

On 4/6/2007 at 5:11 PM gnburke@... wrote:

>BTY, were
>you ever in the USAF? G.Burke 77FC 31 Charlotte

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Eureka, CA





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[M Thomas Eastham]

Great discussion! I am planning to do some touch up and paint a new
gen door panel(don't ask) on my 83' FC35. It's the brown / tan
combo outside. Anybody know where the paint codes are on it or what
colors those are? If not I will just pull something small off to
have it matched.

I'm guessing these older birds don't have clearcoat on them as I have
never seen one pealing. I'm sure I can get decent results with lots
of patience and a little elbow grease.


M Thomas Eastham
Houston, TX
83' FC35
84' FC33 parting out





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