Unreasonable town ordinance

[Gardner Yeaw]

Well, I guess some %@#$ must have complained about my Bird in the
driveway. I got a registered letter from the town stating that I can
only 'store' it on my property for a total of five days in any year,
unless I have a garage to park it in. Seems a little ridiculous. I
also found that they don't allow RVs in the local storage facilities
because they are afraid you might live in it.

So now if I am planning a trip I can't load up the night before,
or pull in when I get home from a trip and take it to the storage
facility the next day. And I just put in a 30-amp outlet so I could
keep it on shore power when it was at home.

Also when I plan to work on it at the storage facility I normally
keep it at I need to have everything I might possibly need in the
car or Bird to address all the unexpected surprises I might
encounter.

Unfortunately moving isn't an option, I just spent a fortune on a
new kitchen addition and other things.


Gardner
78FC33

[Leroy Eckert]

I guess that is in the ordinance? You probably can look it up on the computer.
Probably need to determine what the word store means. It's hard to believe
loading and unloading and overnight parking is storing. There are always jerks
around that do not have anything else to do.

What is the penalty? Good luck.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL





----- Original Message -----
From: Gardner Yeaw
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:13 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Unreasonable town ordinance


Well, I guess some %@#$ must have complained about my Bird in the
driveway. I got a registered letter from the town stating that I can
only 'store' it on my property for a total of five days in any year,
unless I have a garage to park it in. Seems a little ridiculous. I
also found that they don't allow RVs in the local storage facilities
because they are afraid you might live in it.

So now if I am planning a trip I can't load up the night before,
or pull in when I get home from a trip and take it to the storage
facility the next day. And I just put in a 30-amp outlet so I could
keep it on shore power when it was at home.

Also when I plan to work on it at the storage facility I normally
keep it at I need to have everything I might possibly need in the
car or Bird to address all the unexpected surprises I might
encounter.

Unfortunately moving isn't an option, I just spent a fortune on a
new kitchen addition and other things.

Gardner
78FC33





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[Gardner Yeaw]

Leroy,
I haven't looked into the penalty. I will speak to my Lawyer
about the terms used. I think my best bet is to park it in the
street during the day whan I want to work on it (it's not on my
property, just parked on the street), and locate a local place to
store it overnight. I expect there is some ordinance about working
on it in the street, but I will deal with that when it shows up.

Gardner
78FC33


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Leroy Eckert"
wrote:
>
> I guess that is in the ordinance? You probably can look it up on
the computer. Probably need to determine what the word store
means. It's hard to believe loading and unloading and overnight
parking is storing. There are always jerks around that do not have
anything else to do.
>
> What is the penalty? Good luck.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gardner Yeaw
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:13 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Unreasonable town ordinance
>
>
> Well, I guess some %@#$ must have complained about my Bird in the
> driveway. I got a registered letter from the town stating that I
can
> only 'store' it on my property for a total of five days in any
year,
> unless I have a garage to park it in. Seems a little ridiculous.
I
> also found that they don't allow RVs in the local storage
facilities
> because they are afraid you might live in it.
>
> So now if I am planning a trip I can't load up the night before,
> or pull in when I get home from a trip and take it to the storage
> facility the next day. And I just put in a 30-amp outlet so I
could
> keep it on shore power when it was at home.
>
> Also when I plan to work on it at the storage facility I normally
> keep it at I need to have everything I might possibly need in the
> car or Bird to address all the unexpected surprises I might
> encounter.
>
> Unfortunately moving isn't an option, I just spent a fortune on a
> new kitchen addition and other things.
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[mbulriss]

Gardner,

When it's the town, you really have few choices other than move it or
face the fines. If it's a home owner's association, you can ignore
them for a long time. Don't ask how I know! HOAs have almost always
forgotten/chosen not to enforce some other parts of the covenants, so
it's tough for them to have unilateral enforcement of 'some'
convenants and not others.

You say it says you can't store it unless you have a garage. Big loop
hole? How do you think the neighbors will like your new "Bird House"? LOL

I find it hard to believe that they can restrict the storage of RVs at
private storage facilities when they also have ordinances against
storing them at home. Are you sure about that one? That's a stupid
double whammy that effectively prohibits ownership of RVs in that
town. Also seems like an ACLU lawsuit waiting to happen. Doesn't
FMCA have a lobby group that tackles such restrictive anti-RV problems?


Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
wrote:
>
> Well, I guess some %@#$ must have complained about my Bird in the
> driveway. I got a registered letter from the town stating that I can
> only 'store' it on my property for a total of five days in any year,
> unless I have a garage to park it in. Seems a little ridiculous. I
> also found that they don't allow RVs in the local storage facilities
> because they are afraid you might live in it.
>
> So now if I am planning a trip I can't load up the night before,
> or pull in when I get home from a trip and take it to the storage
> facility the next day. And I just put in a 30-amp outlet so I could
> keep it on shore power when it was at home.
>
> Also when I plan to work on it at the storage facility I normally
> keep it at I need to have everything I might possibly need in the
> car or Bird to address all the unexpected surprises I might
> encounter.
>
> Unfortunately moving isn't an option, I just spent a fortune on a
> new kitchen addition and other things.
>
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>

[Wallace Craig]

Yes gentlemen, FMCA does have such a group although I don't know how active it
is. At least they might have some advise about dealing with the ordinance. The
ACLU is not where you need to go. One avenue that is always effective is to
identify the sponsor of the ordinance and to go after them politically. Running
against them in the next election or finding a canidate is good if you are
willing to go that far.
LOL

mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote:
Gardner,

When it's the town, you really have few choices other than move it or
face the fines. If it's a home owner's association, you can ignore
them for a long time. Don't ask how I know! HOAs have almost always
forgotten/chosen not to enforce some other parts of the covenants, so
it's tough for them to have unilateral enforcement of 'some'
convenants and not others.

You say it says you can't store it unless you have a garage. Big loop
hole? How do you think the neighbors will like your new "Bird House"? LOL

I find it hard to believe that they can restrict the storage of RVs at
private storage facilities when they also have ordinances against
storing them at home. Are you sure about that one? That's a stupid
double whammy that effectively prohibits ownership of RVs in that
town. Also seems like an ACLU lawsuit waiting to happen. Doesn't
FMCA have a lobby group that tackles such restrictive anti-RV problems?


Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
wrote:
>
> Well, I guess some %@#$ must have complained about my Bird in the
> driveway. I got a registered letter from the town stating that I can
> only 'store' it on my property for a total of five days in any year,
> unless I have a garage to park it in. Seems a little ridiculous. I
> also found that they don't allow RVs in the local storage facilities
> because they are afraid you might live in it.
>
> So now if I am planning a trip I can't load up the night before,
> or pull in when I get home from a trip and take it to the storage
> facility the next day. And I just put in a 30-amp outlet so I could
> keep it on shore power when it was at home.
>
> Also when I plan to work on it at the storage facility I normally
> keep it at I need to have everything I might possibly need in the
> car or Bird to address all the unexpected surprises I might
> encounter.
>
> Unfortunately moving isn't an option, I just spent a fortune on a
> new kitchen addition and other things.
>
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>





Yahoo! Groups Links






Wallace Craig
95 WLWB 42
Azle, Texas


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[bloomas]

----- Original Message -----
From: Wallace Craig
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Unreasonable town ordinance
When I was hit with the ordinance to move my bird I also went to FMCA

And talk to a guy name Max Durbin the go to guy for this kind of thing. He
told me that FMCA has had very little luck stopping this type of ordinance. I
also found out the hard way that a RV or boat couldn't be grandfather in because
you move it off your land and bring it back.

In my case Harahan did not say you cannot have a RV but they did say in the
ordinance that it has to be park behind the first outside wall

Of your house facing the street or 20' from the street side property line.
Then I found out in Harahan you don't own the first 10'off the street. That was
what got me kick out but not until I paid out

$3,000 for a layer and $ 800.00 bucks in fines. It can get costly

to put up a fight. This ordinance was sit up so as not to block your neighbor
view on either side of you. If I had know all of this 35 years ago I would not
have moved to this city.
Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36
Harahan La.


Yes gentlemen, FMCA does have such a group although I don't know how active it
is. At least they might have some advise about dealing with the ordinance. The
ACLU is not where you need to go. One avenue that is always effective is to
identify the sponsor of the ordinance and to go after them politically. Running
against them in the next election or finding a canidate is good if you are
willing to go that far.
LOL

mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote:
Gardner,

When it's the town, you really have few choices other than move it or
face the fines. If it's a home owner's association, you can ignore
them for a long time. Don't ask how I know! HOAs have almost always
forgotten/chosen not to enforce some other parts of the covenants, so
it's tough for them to have unilateral enforcement of 'some'
convenants and not others.

You say it says you can't store it unless you have a garage. Big loop
hole? How do you think the neighbors will like your new "Bird House"? LOL

I find it hard to believe that they can restrict the storage of RVs at
private storage facilities when they also have ordinances against
storing them at home. Are you sure about that one? That's a stupid
double whammy that effectively prohibits ownership of RVs in that
town. Also seems like an ACLU lawsuit waiting to happen. Doesn't
FMCA have a lobby group that tackles such restrictive anti-RV problems?

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
wrote:
>
> Well, I guess some %@#$ must have complained about my Bird in the
> driveway. I got a registered letter from the town stating that I can
> only 'store' it on my property for a total of five days in any year,
> unless I have a garage to park it in. Seems a little ridiculous. I
> also found that they don't allow RVs in the local storage facilities
> because they are afraid you might live in it.
>
> So now if I am planning a trip I can't load up the night before,
> or pull in when I get home from a trip and take it to the storage
> facility the next day. And I just put in a 30-amp outlet so I could
> keep it on shore power when it was at home.
>
> Also when I plan to work on it at the storage facility I normally
> keep it at I need to have everything I might possibly need in the
> car or Bird to address all the unexpected surprises I might
> encounter.
>
> Unfortunately moving isn't an option, I just spent a fortune on a
> new kitchen addition and other things.
>
>
> Gardner
> 78FC33
>

Yahoo! Groups Links

Wallace Craig
95 WLWB 42
Azle, Texas

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[Gardner Yeaw]

Mike,
I'd love to build a bird house, but not enough property. The side,
front and rear yard restrictions won't allow it. I really have no
reasonable recourse, I knew there was some sort of ordinance, but no
one bothered me last year. I usually left it at home for 4 or 5 days
at a streach while I worked on it, and then took it to the storage
facility where I normally keep it. It is a 20 or so mile ride over
one lane back roads through a bunch of construction, so it isn't a
fun ride.

I am looking for a closer facility which will run the cost up from
$68/month to $100-125, but I will save on fuel, so maybe it will be a
wash. The problem may be that many facilities, like campgrounds,
don't allow you to do mechanical work on site.

Gardner,
78FC33


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>
wrote:
>
> Gardner,
>
> When it's the town, you really have few choices other than move it
or
> face the fines. If it's a home owner's association, you can ignore
> them for a long time. Don't ask how I know! HOAs have almost
always
> forgotten/chosen not to enforce some other parts of the covenants,
so
> it's tough for them to have unilateral enforcement of 'some'
> convenants and not others.
>
> You say it says you can't store it unless you have a garage. Big
loop
> hole? How do you think the neighbors will like your new "Bird
House"? LOL
>
> I find it hard to believe that they can restrict the storage of RVs
at
> private storage facilities when they also have ordinances against
> storing them at home. Are you sure about that one? That's a stupid
> double whammy that effectively prohibits ownership of RVs in that
> town. Also seems like an ACLU lawsuit waiting to happen. Doesn't
> FMCA have a lobby group that tackles such restrictive anti-RV
problems?
>
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gardner Yeaw"
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, I guess some %@#$ must have complained about my Bird in the
> > driveway. I got a registered letter from the town stating that I
can
> > only 'store' it on my property for a total of five days in any
year,
> > unless I have a garage to park it in. Seems a little ridiculous. I
> > also found that they don't allow RVs in the local storage
facilities
> > because they are afraid you might live in it.
> >
> > So now if I am planning a trip I can't load up the night before,
> > or pull in when I get home from a trip and take it to the storage
> > facility the next day. And I just put in a 30-amp outlet so I
could
> > keep it on shore power when it was at home.
> >
> > Also when I plan to work on it at the storage facility I normally
> > keep it at I need to have everything I might possibly need in the
> > car or Bird to address all the unexpected surprises I might
> > encounter.
> >
> > Unfortunately moving isn't an option, I just spent a fortune on a
> > new kitchen addition and other things.
> >
> >
> > Gardner
> > 78FC33
> >
>

[Tom Meservey]

I am sure Bob Loomas will weigh in on this, he has had very simular situation in
the N.O. Parish he lives in.

Tom Meservey, USN (Ret)
One very fine 1981 Wanderlodge still for sale.


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[erniecarpet@...]

Before the church next to me so graciously paved the field where we have
been having mini rallies, for years, My "neighbor" behind me called the police
stating that we were dumping raw sewage on the ground. Inspectors came- we have
been in a drought- no water- not even gray water on the ground.They said-
can we look inside one of those busses? Always an audience of curious people.
We are so fortunate to have other bozos looking out for our well being.

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83PT40
Livingston, Mt




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[erniecarpet@...]

terry- the way land is being gobbled up around Montana - you'll have to move
out of the state.

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83PT40
Livingston, Mt




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