86 PT38...any pitfalls?

[erniecarpet@...]

Scott, when I bought our PT40, the major difference was that I could not
hear the different pitches of noise from the engine that I was so used to
hearing on our FC. And since I went to a year older bird, all the gauges that I
was
used to looking at were not included on my coach. Other then that, glad I
made the switch.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Mt




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[dspithaler@...]

Pete Its easier to wash it off the toad than the rad. I took mine to the
curb & get it on my wrangler but my rad stays clean.
Don
89 SP 36'
Butler, PA

The series 60 only has one ... located in the dumbest possible
position, all things considered. When the engine cover is open,
sitting at idle (warmed up) you can see the vapor coming out of the
tube and being drawn by the fan under the street side of the coach
and back through the radiator. On my 'to do' list is to rig up some
pipe to route the tube out to the curb side (opposite from the fan).
I don't want to route it out the back as that would end up all over
my toad.






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[Scott Forman]

Are there are common problems on PT's I should look out for? I have an
FC and know a lot about them, but have zero hands-on experience with a
PT. Anything I should pay special attention to outside of the "normal"
things would be helpful.

Thanks
Scott Forman
82 FC35RB (Might be for sale soon)
Memphis

[Pete Masterson]

PTs have a tendency for the radiator to become clogged with dirt.
It's difficult to examine as shrouds and other appliances get in the
way. The area swept by the fan usually is clear, but the surrounding
area can be clogged with oily-dirt. (The "slobber tubes" feed hot oil
vapor that mixes with dirt kicked up by the fan to clog the
radiator.) This is a maintenance item (wash out with sudsy, warm
water from time to time) but can become a serious issue if it causes
the engine to overheat.

Most of the rest is standard 'bird stuff... Of course the engine can
have some considerable differences -- cat 3208 vs DD 6v92 or 8v92
(depending on year).

You won't need a 'swing away' radiator!

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Johnson City Texas



On Apr 18, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Scott Forman wrote:

> Are there are common problems on PT's I should look out for? I
> have an
> FC and know a lot about them, but have zero hands-on experience with a
> PT. Anything I should pay special attention to outside of the
> "normal"
> things would be helpful.

[Leroy Eckert]

Pete:
Do your slobber tubes hang down and touch the road? Just wondering.

Leroy Eckert
1990WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL


----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 86 PT38...any pitfalls?


PTs have a tendency for the radiator to become clogged with dirt.
It's difficult to examine as shrouds and other appliances get in the
way. The area swept by the fan usually is clear, but the surrounding
area can be clogged with oily-dirt. (The "slobber tubes" feed hot oil
vapor that mixes with dirt kicked up by the fan to clog the
radiator.) This is a maintenance item (wash out with sudsy, warm
water from time to time) but can become a serious issue if it causes
the engine to overheat.

Most of the rest is standard 'bird stuff... Of course the engine can
have some considerable differences -- cat 3208 vs DD 6v92 or 8v92
(depending on year).

You won't need a 'swing away' radiator!

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Johnson City Texas

On Apr 18, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Scott Forman wrote:

> Are there are common problems on PT's I should look out for? I
> have an
> FC and know a lot about them, but have zero hands-on experience with a
> PT. Anything I should pay special attention to outside of the
> "normal"
> things would be helpful.





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[Scott Forman]

What is a "slobber tube"? Never heard that one....

Scott

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> PTs have a tendency for the radiator to become clogged with dirt.
> It's difficult to examine as shrouds and other appliances get in
the
> way. The area swept by the fan usually is clear, but the
surrounding
> area can be clogged with oily-dirt. (The "slobber tubes" feed hot
oil
> vapor that mixes with dirt kicked up by the fan to clog the
> radiator.) This is a maintenance item (wash out with sudsy, warm
> water from time to time) but can become a serious issue if it
causes
> the engine to overheat.
>
> Most of the rest is standard 'bird stuff... Of course the engine
can
> have some considerable differences -- cat 3208 vs DD 6v92 or 8v92
> (depending on year).
>
> You won't need a 'swing away' radiator!
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Johnson City Texas
>
>
>
> On Apr 18, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Scott Forman wrote:
>
> > Are there are common problems on PT's I should look out for? I
> > have an
> > FC and know a lot about them, but have zero hands-on experience
with a
> > PT. Anything I should pay special attention to outside of the
> > "normal"
> > things would be helpful.
>

[Pete Masterson]

The series 60 only has one ... located in the dumbest possible
position, all things considered. When the engine cover is open,
sitting at idle (warmed up) you can see the vapor coming out of the
tube and being drawn by the fan under the street side of the coach
and back through the radiator. On my 'to do' list is to rig up some
pipe to route the tube out to the curb side (opposite from the fan).
I don't want to route it out the back as that would end up all over
my toad.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On Apr 18, 2007, at 6:47 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Pete:
> Do your slobber tubes hang down and touch the road? Just wondering.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pete Masterson
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 86 PT38...any pitfalls?
>
>
> PTs have a tendency for the radiator to become clogged with dirt.
> It's difficult to examine as shrouds and other appliances get in the
> way. The area swept by the fan usually is clear, but the surrounding
> area can be clogged with oily-dirt. (The "slobber tubes" feed hot
> oil
> vapor that mixes with dirt kicked up by the fan to clog the
> radiator.) This is a maintenance item (wash out with sudsy, warm
> water from time to time) but can become a serious issue if it causes
> the engine to overheat.
>
> Most of the rest is standard 'bird stuff... Of course the engine can
> have some considerable differences -- cat 3208 vs DD 6v92 or 8v92
> (depending on year).
>
> You won't need a 'swing away' radiator!
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Johnson City Texas
>
> On Apr 18, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Scott Forman wrote:
>
>> Are there are common problems on PT's I should look out for? I
>> have an
>> FC and know a lot about them, but have zero hands-on experience
>> with a
>> PT. Anything I should pay special attention to outside of the
>> "normal"
>> things would be helpful.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>

[Leroy Eckert]

A part of the crankcase ventilation system. I my case one each tube attached to
the left and right cylinder heads near the valve covers which drop to road level
and one large crankcase breather tube which hangs well below the engine pan. In
my set up any oil slobber hits the road. Hence, the buzz word "slobber tubes"

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL

----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Forman
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 7:01 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 86 PT38...any pitfalls?


What is a "slobber tube"? Never heard that one....

Scott

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> PTs have a tendency for the radiator to become clogged with dirt.
> It's difficult to examine as shrouds and other appliances get in
the
> way. The area swept by the fan usually is clear, but the
surrounding
> area can be clogged with oily-dirt. (The "slobber tubes" feed hot
oil
> vapor that mixes with dirt kicked up by the fan to clog the
> radiator.) This is a maintenance item (wash out with sudsy, warm
> water from time to time) but can become a serious issue if it
causes
> the engine to overheat.
>
> Most of the rest is standard 'bird stuff... Of course the engine
can
> have some considerable differences -- cat 3208 vs DD 6v92 or 8v92
> (depending on year).
>
> You won't need a 'swing away' radiator!
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Johnson City Texas
>
>
>
> On Apr 18, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Scott Forman wrote:
>
> > Are there are common problems on PT's I should look out for? I
> > have an
> > FC and know a lot about them, but have zero hands-on experience
with a
> > PT. Anything I should pay special attention to outside of the
> > "normal"
> > things would be helpful.
>





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[Pete Masterson]

Slobber tube also known as "breather tube(s)". This is a crank case
breather to allow air pressure to escape from the engine as it heats
up. DD 6v92 and 8v92 engines have two of them (one for each bank of
cylinders) and they are notorious for dribbling oil. The DD Series 60
engine (an inline-6, four cycle engine) is not as serious an oil-
dribbler as some 8v92s ... but the location in relation to the
radiator is not well thought out.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Johnson CIty, Texas



On Apr 18, 2007, at 7:01 PM, Scott Forman wrote:

> What is a "slobber tube"? Never heard that one....
>
> Scott
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> wrote:
>>
>> PTs have a tendency for the radiator to become clogged with dirt.
>> It's difficult to examine as shrouds and other appliances get in
> the
>> way. The area swept by the fan usually is clear, but the
> surrounding
>> area can be clogged with oily-dirt. (The "slobber tubes" feed hot
> oil
>> vapor that mixes with dirt kicked up by the fan to clog the
>> radiator.) This is a maintenance item (wash out with sudsy, warm
>> water from time to time) but can become a serious issue if it
> causes
>> the engine to overheat.
>>
>> Most of the rest is standard 'bird stuff... Of course the engine
> can
>> have some considerable differences -- cat 3208 vs DD 6v92 or 8v92
>> (depending on year).
>>
>> You won't need a 'swing away' radiator!
>>
>> Pete Masterson
>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>> aeonix1@...
>> On the road at Johnson City Texas
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 18, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Scott Forman wrote:
>>
>>> Are there are common problems on PT's I should look out for? I
>>> have an
>>> FC and know a lot about them, but have zero hands-on experience
> with a
>>> PT. Anything I should pay special attention to outside of the
>>> "normal"
>>> things would be helpful.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

[Leroy Eckert]

Thanks, I forgot you have a Series 60. Getting it to road level will certainly
help.

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
Niceville, FL



----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Masterson
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 86 PT38...any pitfalls?


The series 60 only has one ... located in the dumbest possible
position, all things considered. When the engine cover is open,
sitting at idle (warmed up) you can see the vapor coming out of the
tube and being drawn by the fan under the street side of the coach
and back through the radiator. On my 'to do' list is to rig up some
pipe to route the tube out to the curb side (opposite from the fan).
I don't want to route it out the back as that would end up all over
my toad.

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA

On Apr 18, 2007, at 6:47 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote:

> Pete:
> Do your slobber tubes hang down and touch the road? Just wondering.
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors"
> Niceville, FL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pete Masterson
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 86 PT38...any pitfalls?
>
>
> PTs have a tendency for the radiator to become clogged with dirt.
> It's difficult to examine as shrouds and other appliances get in the
> way. The area swept by the fan usually is clear, but the surrounding
> area can be clogged with oily-dirt. (The "slobber tubes" feed hot
> oil
> vapor that mixes with dirt kicked up by the fan to clog the
> radiator.) This is a maintenance item (wash out with sudsy, warm
> water from time to time) but can become a serious issue if it causes
> the engine to overheat.
>
> Most of the rest is standard 'bird stuff... Of course the engine can
> have some considerable differences -- cat 3208 vs DD 6v92 or 8v92
> (depending on year).
>
> You won't need a 'swing away' radiator!
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Johnson City Texas
>
> On Apr 18, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Scott Forman wrote:
>
>> Are there are common problems on PT's I should look out for? I
>> have an
>> FC and know a lot about them, but have zero hands-on experience
>> with a
>> PT. Anything I should pay special attention to outside of the
>> "normal"
>> things would be helpful.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>





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