PT Battery Banks
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04-28-2007, 10:43
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Scott,
Congrats on your "new" PT....I think you'll love the difference as compared with your FC. I have six 6-volt Trojan T-105's, and all tied together. I installed a Perko marine switch, and I split my batts into two banks...one bank with 4 batts, the other with the remaining two...this way when dry camping, I can run on my "camping bank" of 4 batts, and always reserve the other bank of two batt for starting the 8 V92 DD if the other bank runs down. When on the road, I leave the switch selected to the "both" position so both banks can charge. Of course, I still have the 12-V genset battery, isolated from the Trojans, so the genset can always (hopefully) can always be started. It seems that the mid-80's PT have issues keeping the genset battery charged, but I think I have a handle on that issue (replaced the large "stud" diode and a few solenoids), and some rewiring... Congrats again...always feel free to ask us if you have any other questions or problems. Kevin McKeown Yorba Linda, CA 1986 38' PT ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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04-28-2007, 11:33
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On my FC, there is one bank of batteries (four 6-volt Trojans) that
serve both the house and chassis functions and then one separate battery for the generator. Are the PT batteries the same way, or do they have split banks for house & chassis? Thanks Scott Forman 82 FC35RB for sale 86 PT38 picking up tomorrow |
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04-28-2007, 13:14
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I think the spit banks happened around 91. My 94Pt has 3 bats for the
engine and 8 for the house. I just installed a generator battery up front for gen starting. Take CurtS number with you for the trip. He has a 86pt38-8V and is up on the entire rig. Curt is one of the many great folks of helpful knowledgable BB owners and number 8 on my speed dial. Remember that the DD and the Cat have very different RPM ranges. In a Detroit V92, 2000 RPM is the max even decending a hill. GregoryO'Connor 94ptRomolandCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...> wrote: > > On my FC, there is one bank of batteries (four 6-volt Trojans) that > serve both the house and chassis functions and then one separate > battery for the generator. Are the PT batteries the same way, or do > they have split banks for house & chassis? > > Thanks > Scott Forman > 82 FC35RB for sale > 86 PT38 picking up tomorrow > |
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04-28-2007, 15:04
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Kevin,
Can you send me details about the switch you installed? Thanks, Scott --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@... wrote: > > Scott, > > Congrats on your "new" PT....I think you'll love the difference as compared > with your FC. > > I have six 6-volt Trojan T-105's, and all tied together. I installed a > Perko marine switch, and I split my batts into two banks...one bank with 4 batts, > the other with the remaining two...this way when dry camping, I can run on > my "camping bank" of 4 batts, and always reserve the other bank of two batt > for starting the 8 > V92 DD if the other bank runs down. When on the road, I leave the switch > selected to the "both" position so both banks can charge. > > Of course, I still have the 12-V genset battery, isolated from the Trojans, > so the genset can always (hopefully) can always be started. It seems that > the mid-80's PT have issues keeping the genset battery charged, but I think I > have a handle on that issue (replaced the large "stud" diode and a few > solenoids), and some rewiring... > > Congrats again...always feel free to ask us if you have any other questions > or problems. > > > Kevin McKeown > Yorba Linda, CA > 1986 38' PT > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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04-28-2007, 16:59
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Gregory,
One minor point, your #8 has a '87PT38. All else appears accurate, except possibly the RPM thingy. Have a good day. Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: Gregory OConnor To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: PT Battery Banks I think the spit banks happened around 91. My 94Pt has 3 bats for the engine and 8 for the house. I just installed a generator battery up front for gen starting. Take CurtS number with you for the trip. He has a 86pt38-8V and is up on the entire rig. Curt is one of the many great folks of helpful knowledgable BB owners and number 8 on my speed dial. Remember that the DD and the Cat have very different RPM ranges. In a Detroit V92, 2000 RPM is the max even decending a hill. GregoryO'Connor 94ptRomolandCa --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com "Scott Forman" <sforman@...> wrote: > > On my FC, there is one bank of batteries (four 6-volt Trojans) that > serve both the house and chassis functions and then one separate > battery for the generator. Are the PT batteries the same way, or do > they have split banks for house & chassis? > > Thanks > Scott Forman > 82 FC35RB for sale > 86 PT38 picking up tomorrow > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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04-29-2007, 04:03
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Hi Dick, You are a diplomat. your post point out that the two facts
of my statement have "possibly minor" flaws but "All else appears accurate". Are you confirming that in fact I own a 94pt and live in Romoland California? Do you write political speaches or sell RV's? You, Joyce and your son Brian are in our prayers GregoryO'Connor 94ptRomolandCa (for sure) --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hayden" > > Gregory, > > One minor point, your #8 has a '87PT38. All else appears accurate, except possibly the RPM thingy. Have a good day. > > Dick Hayden - '87 PT 38 - Lake Stevens, WA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gregory OConnor > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:14 PM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: PT Battery Banks > > > I think the spit banks happened around 91. My 94Pt has 3 bats for the > engine and 8 for the house. I just installed a generator battery up > front for gen starting. Take CurtS number with you for the trip. He > has a 86pt38-8V and is up on the entire rig. Curt is one of the many > great folks of helpful knowledgable BB owners and number 8 on my speed > dial. Remember that the DD and the Cat have very different RPM ranges. > In a Detroit V92, 2000 RPM is the max even decending a hill. > GregoryO'Connor > 94ptRomolandCa > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > wrote: > > > > On my FC, there is one bank of batteries (four 6-volt Trojans) that > > serve both the house and chassis functions and then one separate > > battery for the generator. Are the PT batteries the same way, or do > > they have split banks for house & chassis? > > > > Thanks > > Scott Forman > > 82 FC35RB for sale > > 86 PT38 picking up tomorrow > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > |
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04-29-2007, 12:46
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Hi Scott,
The battery switch I installed was a heavy duty Perko brand marine battery switch...Guest is another brand you can probably use...it is a battery switch used to create two banks of batteries, most common on a boat, that uses a lot of electronics (radar, fish finders, radios) when the boat is turned off, so if you run one battery bank down, you can always start the boat (or motorhome) motor with the other battery bank. The switch typically is a large rotary switch, with a "off", "1", "2" or "Both" position. I had to make new battery cables, and they run into the Perko switch, and out again. Just make sure you switch to the "Both" position when the coach motor is running, so both banks can charge at the same time. This switch is the sure-shot battery shut-off, and disconnects all DC battery power from the coach killing everything...no need to use the electronic master or the DC switch underneath the steering column....the Perko kills everything. Hope this makes sense! Let me know if you need any more info. Kevin McKeown Yorba Linda, CA 1986 38' PT ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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04-29-2007, 22:16
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FYI
Perko switches are commonly used in ambulances. Find a company that scraps ambulances of repairs them and you will have a source. On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 00:46:21 EDT, you wrote: >Hi Scott, > >The battery switch I installed was a heavy duty Perko brand marine battery >switch...Guest is another brand you can probably use...it is a battery switch >used to create two banks of batteries, most common on a boat, that uses a lot >of electronics (radar, fish finders, radios) when the boat is turned off, so >if you run one battery bank down, you can always start the boat (or >motorhome) motor with the other battery bank. The switch typically is a large rotary >switch, with a "off", "1", "2" or "Both" position. I had to make new >battery cables, and they run into the Perko switch, and out again. Just make sure >you switch to the "Both" position when the coach motor is running, so both >banks can charge at the same time. This switch is the sure-shot battery >shut-off, and disconnects all DC battery power from the coach killing >everything...no need to use the electronic master or the DC switch underneath the steering >column....the Perko kills everything. > >Hope this makes sense! Let me know if you need any more info. > >Kevin McKeown >Yorba Linda, CA >1986 38' PT > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Pete Arnold Your mileage may vary. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. Early withdrawal may result in interest penalty. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200, Offer invalid where prohibited by law. |
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04-30-2007, 11:37
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Hi all,
Keep in mind that boats have two banks to absolutely guarentee cranking power when out at sea. Generally, we can always use the generator if our large single bank gets too low. Or call a roadside service. A modern battery combiner will do away with the genset battery not recieving a propper charge in a PT. The deaper our batteries are discharged the sooner they fail; discharge always means chemical imballance and battery dammage. This is a non-linear relationship. So if we make our main bank smaller, so that we can have seporate starting batteries, that main bank will now not last as long; both from a boon docking stand point or long term battery life. If you really need starting batteries, you should probably add seporate batteries for that purpose. If you want to get the most out of your batteries, you have to monitor them closely. Regards, Don Duncan 1987 PT40 Beaverton, Oregon |
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05-01-2007, 06:21
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My pt40 seems to have some kind of fantom load on the gen. battery, Sometimes
it stay charged sometimes not, am installing new one and would like to know your solution for this.Marvin SkaggsBuffalo, Ky. 427161984 PT40--- On Sat 04/28, Scott Forman < sforman@... > wrote: From: Scott Forman [mailto: sforman@...]To: WanderlodgeForum@...: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:04:39 -0000Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: PT Battery Banks Kevin,Can you send me details about the switch you installed?Thanks,Scott--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, krminyl@... wrote:>> Scott,> > Congrats on your "new" PT....I think you'll love the difference as compared > with your FC.> > I have six 6-volt Trojan T-105's, and all tied together. I installed a > Perko marine switch, and I split my batts into two banks...one bank with 4 batts, > the other with the remaining two...this way when dry camping, I can run on > my "camping bank" of 4 batts, and always reserve the other bank of two batt > for starting the 8> V92 DD if the other bank runs down. When on the road, I leave the switch > selected to the "both" position so both banks can charge.> > Of course, I still have the 12-V genset battery, isolated from the Trojans, > so the genset can always (hopefully) can always be started. It seems that > the mid-80's PT have issues keeping the genset battery charged, but I think I > have a handle on that issue (replaced the large "stud" diode and a few > solenoids), and some rewiring...> > Congrats again...always feel free to ask us if you have any other questions > or problems.> > > Kevin McKeown> Yorba Linda, CA> 1986 38' PT> > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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