tow bar receiver

[David Brady]

Folks,

If you own an LXi I could use your help. I'm installing a Blue Ox
base plate on my Honda Pilot but notice that the tow bar connection
points are quite high (25 inches). I know that on my LXi, the receiver
is quite a bit lower than this. I'm away from the coach so I can't
measure it directly. Can someone please air up their LXi and tell me
what the distance is from the ground to the bottom of their hitch
receiver so I can buy a Blue Ox drop receiver.

Thanks, I very much appreciate it.

David Brady
'02 LXi Smokey
NC

[brad barton]

Sorry, Dave.
I would if I could but we're out of town away from the coach right now.
Assuming a tow bar expert shows up though...
Is it still possible to find and use the simple ball hitch tow bar that used to
be hinged onto the front bumper of jeeps?Brad Barton 00LXiDFW
bbartonwx@...


To: WanderlodgeForum@...: dmb993@...: Sat, 19 May
2007 22:56:41 -0400Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] tow bar receiver




Folks,If you own an LXi I could use your help. I'm installing a Blue Oxbase
plate on my Honda Pilot but notice that the tow bar connectionpoints are quite
high (25 inches). I know that on my LXi, the receiveris quite a bit lower than
this. I'm away from the coach so I can'tmeasure it directly. Can someone please
air up their LXi and tell mewhat the distance is from the ground to the bottom
of their hitchreceiver so I can buy a Blue Ox drop receiver.Thanks, I very much
appreciate it.David Brady'02 LXi SmokeyNC


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[Gregory OConnor]

Dave, If I had a 2002lxi I would be at my second job right now.
GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, brad barton <bbartonwx@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Sorry, Dave.
> I would if I could but we're out of town away from the coach right
now.
> Assuming a tow bar expert shows up though...
> Is it still possible to find and use the simple ball hitch tow bar
that used to be hinged onto the front bumper of jeeps?Brad Barton
00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...
>
>
> To: WanderlodgeForum@...: dmb993@...: Sat, 19 May 2007 22:56:41 -
0400Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] tow bar receiver
>
>
>
>
> Folks,If you own an LXi I could use your help. I'm installing a
Blue Oxbase plate on my Honda Pilot but notice that the tow bar
connectionpoints are quite high (25 inches). I know that on my LXi,
the receiveris quite a bit lower than this. I'm away from the coach
so I can'tmeasure it directly. Can someone please air up their LXi
and tell mewhat the distance is from the ground to the bottom of
their hitchreceiver so I can buy a Blue Ox drop receiver.Thanks, I
very much appreciate it.David Brady'02 LXi SmokeyNC
>
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[David Brady]

All work and no play makes Greg a dull boy. Greg, I
appreciate your sense of humor. Now get to work will
ya!

David Brady
'02 LXi, Smokey
NC

Gregory OConnor wrote:
>
> Dave, If I had a 2002lxi I would be at my second job right now.
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , brad barton <bbartonwx@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sorry, Dave.
> > I would if I could but we're out of town away from the coach right
> now.
> > Assuming a tow bar expert shows up though...
> > Is it still possible to find and use the simple ball hitch tow bar
> that used to be hinged onto the front bumper of jeeps?Brad Barton
> 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...
> >
> >
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@...: dmb993@...: Sat, 19 May 2007 22:56:41 -
> 0400Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] tow bar receiver
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Folks,If you own an LXi I could use your help. I'm installing a
> Blue Oxbase plate on my Honda Pilot but notice that the tow bar
> connectionpoints are quite high (25 inches). I know that on my LXi,
> the receiveris quite a bit lower than this. I'm away from the coach
> so I can'tmeasure it directly. Can someone please air up their LXi
> and tell mewhat the distance is from the ground to the bottom of
> their hitchreceiver so I can buy a Blue Ox drop receiver.Thanks, I
> very much appreciate it.David Brady'02 LXi SmokeyNC
> >
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[jim riordan]

David,

I was told that the tow bar should angle down from the coach to the towed
vehicle. I guess that the thought is that on hard braking the towed will not be
forced up.

Jim Riordan
88 WBWL xxv
Stuart, Fl.

David Brady wrote:
Folks,

If you own an LXi I could use your help. I'm installing a Blue Ox
base plate on my Honda Pilot but notice that the tow bar connection
points are quite high (25 inches). I know that on my LXi, the receiver
is quite a bit lower than this. I'm away from the coach so I can't
measure it directly. Can someone please air up their LXi and tell me
what the distance is from the ground to the bottom of their hitch
receiver so I can buy a Blue Ox drop receiver.

Thanks, I very much appreciate it.

David Brady
'02 LXi Smokey
NC





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[Pete Masterson]

The instructions with the tow bar should describe the geometry of the
connection. The Blue Ox tow bar I have suggested that the connection
should be "level" (when parked on level ground) with a tolerance of
plus or minus 2 inches.

After taking some measurements, I purchased a 9" drop receiver to
lower the RV end of the tow bar. (The attachment point on my tow
vehicle are rather low.) Once installed, the bar was very close to
level, but the drop receiver was _so_ low that I was concerned about
the receiver hitting the pavement on dips in the pavement. I then
purchased a second drop receiver that was 2" shorter (a 7" drop
receiver) plus I purchased a roller that attaches on the bottom of
the drop receiver. Even so, I've hit the pavement a few times
activating the roller. Probably saved me from burying the receiver in
the road.

I understand the design of the base plate -- it is surely not very
obvious on the front of the car -- but I wish the connection was
higher up so that I didn't need so much of a drop on the receiver.

Since I have supplemental brakes on the towed, it's unlikely that it
will be forced up under hard braking unless the supplemental brakes
fail. Since the relative weight of the towed and the RV are so
significantly different (48,000 lbs vs 3,200 lbs), I have the towed
brake system set to only 'kick in' during hard braking.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Lockhart Texas



On May 21, 2007, at 10:42 AM, jim riordan wrote:

> David,
>
> I was told that the tow bar should angle down from the coach to
> the towed vehicle. I guess that the thought is that on hard braking
> the towed will not be forced up.
>
> Jim Riordan
> 88 WBWL xxv
> Stuart, Fl.
>
> David Brady wrote:
> Folks,
>
> If you own an LXi I could use your help. I'm installing a Blue Ox
> base plate on my Honda Pilot but notice that the tow bar connection
> points are quite high (25 inches). I know that on my LXi, the receiver
> is quite a bit lower than this. I'm away from the coach so I can't
> measure it directly. Can someone please air up their LXi and tell me
> what the distance is from the ground to the bottom of their hitch
> receiver so I can buy a Blue Ox drop receiver.
>
> Thanks, I very much appreciate it.
>
> David Brady
> '02 LXi Smokey
> NC
>
>

[David Brady]

I have the opposite problem Pete. My Honda Pilot has it's tow
bar pick-up points 25 inches above the ground. I'm away from
my coach so I can't measure where the receiver is relative to the
ground but I would guess 15 inches or so. Any out there who has
access to their LXi who could measure their coach would be a
big help. I'm thinking that I'll need an 8 or 10 inch drop receiver
mounted upside down. At least this will help prevent scraping the
tow bar into the pavement.

David Brady
'02 LXi, Smokey
NC

Pete Masterson wrote:
>
> The instructions with the tow bar should describe the geometry of the
> connection. The Blue Ox tow bar I have suggested that the connection
> should be "level" (when parked on level ground) with a tolerance of
> plus or minus 2 inches.
>
> After taking some measurements, I purchased a 9" drop receiver to
> lower the RV end of the tow bar. (The attachment point on my tow
> vehicle are rather low.) Once installed, the bar was very close to
> level, but the drop receiver was _so_ low that I was concerned about
> the receiver hitting the pavement on dips in the pavement. I then
> purchased a second drop receiver that was 2" shorter (a 7" drop
> receiver) plus I purchased a roller that attaches on the bottom of
> the drop receiver. Even so, I've hit the pavement a few times
> activating the roller. Probably saved me from burying the receiver in
> the road.
>
> I understand the design of the base plate -- it is surely not very
> obvious on the front of the car -- but I wish the connection was
> higher up so that I didn't need so much of a drop on the receiver.
>
> Since I have supplemental brakes on the towed, it's unlikely that it
> will be forced up under hard braking unless the supplemental brakes
> fail. Since the relative weight of the towed and the RV are so
> significantly different (48,000 lbs vs 3,200 lbs), I have the towed
> brake system set to only 'kick in' during hard braking.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Lockhart Texas
>
> On May 21, 2007, at 10:42 AM, jim riordan wrote:
>
> > David,
> >
> > I was told that the tow bar should angle down from the coach to
> > the towed vehicle. I guess that the thought is that on hard braking
> > the towed will not be forced up.
> >
> > Jim Riordan
> > 88 WBWL xxv
> > Stuart, Fl.
> >
> > David Brady >
> wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > If you own an LXi I could use your help. I'm installing a Blue Ox
> > base plate on my Honda Pilot but notice that the tow bar connection
> > points are quite high (25 inches). I know that on my LXi, the receiver
> > is quite a bit lower than this. I'm away from the coach so I can't
> > measure it directly. Can someone please air up their LXi and tell me
> > what the distance is from the ground to the bottom of their hitch
> > receiver so I can buy a Blue Ox drop receiver.
> >
> > Thanks, I very much appreciate it.
> >
> > David Brady
> > '02 LXi Smokey
> > NC
> >
> >
>
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[Pete Masterson]

I thought that's what you were saying earlier in this thread... Are
you measuring when the 'bird is fully aired up? The rear of my coach
is very close to the ground (sometimes) when the suspension is down.
When ready for the road, the built-in receiver is about 18 inches
from the ground. Of course, that would put it 7 inches below the tow
bar points on your Pilot...

Amazing lack of standards here ...

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Lockhart Texas



On May 21, 2007, at 1:17 PM, David Brady wrote:

> I have the opposite problem Pete. My Honda Pilot has it's tow
> bar pick-up points 25 inches above the ground. I'm away from
> my coach so I can't measure where the receiver is relative to the
> ground but I would guess 15 inches or so. Any out there who has
> access to their LXi who could measure their coach would be a
> big help. I'm thinking that I'll need an 8 or 10 inch drop receiver
> mounted upside down. At least this will help prevent scraping the
> tow bar into the pavement.
>
> David Brady
> '02 LXi, Smokey
> NC
>
> Pete Masterson wrote:
>>
>> The instructions with the tow bar should describe the geometry of the
>> connection. The Blue Ox tow bar I have suggested that the connection
>> should be "level" (when parked on level ground) with a tolerance of
>> plus or minus 2 inches.
>>
>> After taking some measurements, I purchased a 9" drop receiver to
>> lower the RV end of the tow bar. (The attachment point on my tow
>> vehicle are rather low.) Once installed, the bar was very close to
>> level, but the drop receiver was _so_ low that I was concerned about
>> the receiver hitting the pavement on dips in the pavement. I then
>> purchased a second drop receiver that was 2" shorter (a 7" drop
>> receiver) plus I purchased a roller that attaches on the bottom of
>> the drop receiver. Even so, I've hit the pavement a few times
>> activating the roller. Probably saved me from burying the receiver in
>> the road.
>>
>> I understand the design of the base plate -- it is surely not very
>> obvious on the front of the car -- but I wish the connection was
>> higher up so that I didn't need so much of a drop on the receiver.
>>
>> Since I have supplemental brakes on the towed, it's unlikely that it
>> will be forced up under hard braking unless the supplemental brakes
>> fail. Since the relative weight of the towed and the RV are so
>> significantly different (48,000 lbs vs 3,200 lbs), I have the towed
>> brake system set to only 'kick in' during hard braking.
>>
>> Pete Masterson
>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>> aeonix1@...
>> On the road at Lockhart Texas
>>
>> On May 21, 2007, at 10:42 AM, jim riordan wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I was told that the tow bar should angle down from the coach to
>>> the towed vehicle. I guess that the thought is that on hard braking
>>> the towed will not be forced up.
>>>
>>> Jim Riordan
>>> 88 WBWL xxv
>>> Stuart, Fl.
>>>
>>> David Brady >
>> wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> If you own an LXi I could use your help. I'm installing a Blue Ox
>>> base plate on my Honda Pilot but notice that the tow bar connection
>>> points are quite high (25 inches). I know that on my LXi, the
>>> receiver
>>> is quite a bit lower than this. I'm away from the coach so I can't
>>> measure it directly. Can someone please air up their LXi and tell me
>>> what the distance is from the ground to the bottom of their hitch
>>> receiver so I can buy a Blue Ox drop receiver.
>>>
>>> Thanks, I very much appreciate it.
>>>
>>> David Brady
>>> '02 LXi Smokey
>>> NC
>>>
>>>
>>
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[Stephen Birtles]

A solution to that is to obtain a drop reciever 4 inch and turn it
upside down so it is a lift
I have seen it on other birds and it works okey dokey
Roy Anderson on his pt comes to mind He posts on the forum
By the way a 4 inch drop extra long from bLue ox is around $110.00
just got one for myself

Stephen 77fc35


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> I thought that's what you were saying earlier in this thread... Are
> you measuring when the 'bird is fully aired up? The rear of my coach
> is very close to the ground (sometimes) when the suspension is down.
> When ready for the road, the built-in receiver is about 18 inches
> from the ground. Of course, that would put it 7 inches below the tow
> bar points on your Pilot...
>
> Amazing lack of standards here ...
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Lockhart Texas
>
>
>
> On May 21, 2007, at 1:17 PM, David Brady wrote:
>
> > I have the opposite problem Pete. My Honda Pilot has it's tow
> > bar pick-up points 25 inches above the ground. I'm away from
> > my coach so I can't measure where the receiver is relative to the
> > ground but I would guess 15 inches or so. Any out there who has
> > access to their LXi who could measure their coach would be a
> > big help. I'm thinking that I'll need an 8 or 10 inch drop receiver
> > mounted upside down. At least this will help prevent scraping the
> > tow bar into the pavement.
> >
> > David Brady
> > '02 LXi, Smokey
> > NC
> >
> > Pete Masterson wrote:
> >>
> >> The instructions with the tow bar should describe the geometry of the
> >> connection. The Blue Ox tow bar I have suggested that the connection
> >> should be "level" (when parked on level ground) with a tolerance of
> >> plus or minus 2 inches.
> >>
> >> After taking some measurements, I purchased a 9" drop receiver to
> >> lower the RV end of the tow bar. (The attachment point on my tow
> >> vehicle are rather low.) Once installed, the bar was very close to
> >> level, but the drop receiver was _so_ low that I was concerned about
> >> the receiver hitting the pavement on dips in the pavement. I then
> >> purchased a second drop receiver that was 2" shorter (a 7" drop
> >> receiver) plus I purchased a roller that attaches on the bottom of
> >> the drop receiver. Even so, I've hit the pavement a few times
> >> activating the roller. Probably saved me from burying the receiver in
> >> the road.
> >>
> >> I understand the design of the base plate -- it is surely not very
> >> obvious on the front of the car -- but I wish the connection was
> >> higher up so that I didn't need so much of a drop on the receiver.
> >>
> >> Since I have supplemental brakes on the towed, it's unlikely that it
> >> will be forced up under hard braking unless the supplemental brakes
> >> fail. Since the relative weight of the towed and the RV are so
> >> significantly different (48,000 lbs vs 3,200 lbs), I have the towed
> >> brake system set to only 'kick in' during hard braking.
> >>
> >> Pete Masterson
> >> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> >> aeonix1@...
> >> On the road at Lockhart Texas
> >>
> >> On May 21, 2007, at 10:42 AM, jim riordan wrote:
> >>
> >>> David,
> >>>
> >>> I was told that the tow bar should angle down from the coach to
> >>> the towed vehicle. I guess that the thought is that on hard braking
> >>> the towed will not be forced up.
> >>>
> >>> Jim Riordan
> >>> 88 WBWL xxv
> >>> Stuart, Fl.
> >>>
> >>> David Brady >
> >> wrote:
> >>> Folks,
> >>>
> >>> If you own an LXi I could use your help. I'm installing a Blue Ox
> >>> base plate on my Honda Pilot but notice that the tow bar connection
> >>> points are quite high (25 inches). I know that on my LXi, the
> >>> receiver
> >>> is quite a bit lower than this. I'm away from the coach so I can't
> >>> measure it directly. Can someone please air up their LXi and tell me
> >>> what the distance is from the ground to the bottom of their hitch
> >>> receiver so I can buy a Blue Ox drop receiver.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, I very much appreciate it.
> >>>
> >>> David Brady
> >>> '02 LXi Smokey
> >>> NC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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[David Brady]

Thanks Pete, that's a great help. My coach is pretty similar
to yours - same suspension, pretty much the same length,
so I'm probably pretty close to 18 inches fully aired. That
sounds about right. Looks like I'll be needing the 8 inch
drop receiver (rotated upwards, of course).

David Brady
'02 LXi, Smokey
NC

Pete Masterson wrote:
>
> I thought that's what you were saying earlier in this thread... Are
> you measuring when the 'bird is fully aired up? The rear of my coach
> is very close to the ground (sometimes) when the suspension is down.
> When ready for the road, the built-in receiver is about 18 inches
> from the ground. Of course, that would put it 7 inches below the tow
> bar points on your Pilot...
>
> Amazing lack of standards here ...
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Lockhart Texas
>
> On May 21, 2007, at 1:17 PM, David Brady wrote:
>
> > I have the opposite problem Pete. My Honda Pilot has it's tow
> > bar pick-up points 25 inches above the ground. I'm away from
> > my coach so I can't measure where the receiver is relative to the
> > ground but I would guess 15 inches or so. Any out there who has
> > access to their LXi who could measure their coach would be a
> > big help. I'm thinking that I'll need an 8 or 10 inch drop receiver
> > mounted upside down. At least this will help prevent scraping the
> > tow bar into the pavement.
> >
> > David Brady
> > '02 LXi, Smokey
> > NC
> >
> > Pete Masterson wrote:
> >>
> >> The instructions with the tow bar should describe the geometry of the
> >> connection. The Blue Ox tow bar I have suggested that the connection
> >> should be "level" (when parked on level ground) with a tolerance of
> >> plus or minus 2 inches.
> >>
> >> After taking some measurements, I purchased a 9" drop receiver to
> >> lower the RV end of the tow bar. (The attachment point on my tow
> >> vehicle are rather low.) Once installed, the bar was very close to
> >> level, but the drop receiver was _so_ low that I was concerned about
> >> the receiver hitting the pavement on dips in the pavement. I then
> >> purchased a second drop receiver that was 2" shorter (a 7" drop
> >> receiver) plus I purchased a roller that attaches on the bottom of
> >> the drop receiver. Even so, I've hit the pavement a few times
> >> activating the roller. Probably saved me from burying the receiver in
> >> the road.
> >>
> >> I understand the design of the base plate -- it is surely not very
> >> obvious on the front of the car -- but I wish the connection was
> >> higher up so that I didn't need so much of a drop on the receiver.
> >>
> >> Since I have supplemental brakes on the towed, it's unlikely that it
> >> will be forced up under hard braking unless the supplemental brakes
> >> fail. Since the relative weight of the towed and the RV are so
> >> significantly different (48,000 lbs vs 3,200 lbs), I have the towed
> >> brake system set to only 'kick in' during hard braking.
> >>
> >> Pete Masterson
> >> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> >> aeonix1@...
> >> On the road at Lockhart Texas
> >>
> >> On May 21, 2007, at 10:42 AM, jim riordan wrote:
> >>
> >>> David,
> >>>
> >>> I was told that the tow bar should angle down from the coach to
> >>> the towed vehicle. I guess that the thought is that on hard braking
> >>> the towed will not be forced up.
> >>>
> >>> Jim Riordan
> >>> 88 WBWL xxv
> >>> Stuart, Fl.
> >>>
> >>> David Brady
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>> Folks,
> >>>
> >>> If you own an LXi I could use your help. I'm installing a Blue Ox
> >>> base plate on my Honda Pilot but notice that the tow bar connection
> >>> points are quite high (25 inches). I know that on my LXi, the
> >>> receiver
> >>> is quite a bit lower than this. I'm away from the coach so I can't
> >>> measure it directly. Can someone please air up their LXi and tell me
> >>> what the distance is from the ground to the bottom of their hitch
> >>> receiver so I can buy a Blue Ox drop receiver.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, I very much appreciate it.
> >>>
> >>> David Brady
> >>> '02 LXi Smokey
> >>> NC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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