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Tool tip working on Birds
05-30-2007, 00:25
Post: #1
Tool tip working on Birds
Good morning everyone:

I don't know about anyone else, but I like working on electrical with as
many worries put aside as possible.

One of the things I do is to screwdrivers. I will cut a length of clear
tubing that is a tight fit on the shaft of the blade and cover all but the
tip of the screwdriver. This helps me to get into close quarters and not
worry about arcing and sparking. I find the clear tubing from
hospital oxy masks works well. If I don't have any tubing I at least wrap
the shaft with electrical tape, to keep from going to welding school.

Just some thoughts,

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35
Duncan, Oklahoma
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05-30-2007, 01:37
Post: #2
Tool tip working on Birds
It's a good thought... my brother-in-law worked as a maintenance
electrician in several large facilities -- he had a whole set of
screwdrivers made with a plastic sleeve covering the shaft, leaving
just a bit of the tip exposed.

I will say, the man had nerves of steel. An old apartment house my
mom owned required a new service box for one of the units. It had to
be wired hot (to avoid shutting down the other apartments and the
bother of getting the power company out to disconnect/reconnect the
wire at the pole. There was no 'master' switch.). While working on
it, a regular screwdriver brushed against a connector on the conduit
-- an impressive shower of sparks filled the air. My brother-in-law
didn't even flinch. His comment, " I ruined my screwdriver
-- I thought that thing was plastic!"

Pete Masterson
aeonix1@...
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
El Sobrante, CA




On May 30, 2007, at 7:25 AM, Ralph L. Fullenwider wrote:

> Good morning everyone:
>
> I don't know about anyone else, but I like working on electrical
> with as
> many worries put aside as possible.
>
> One of the things I do is to screwdrivers. I will cut a length of
> clear
> tubing that is a tight fit on the shaft of the blade and cover all
> but the
> tip of the screwdriver. This helps me to get into close quarters
> and not
> worry about arcing and sparking. I find the clear tubing from
> hospital oxy masks works well. If I don't have any tubing I at
> least wrap
> the shaft with electrical tape, to keep from going to welding
> school.
>
> Just some thoughts,
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> 84FC35
> Duncan, Oklahoma
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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05-30-2007, 02:07
Post: #3
Tool tip working on Birds
----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph L. Fullenwider
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:25 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tool tip working on Birds
Morning Ralph My screwdrivers are coverd with tap I dont have access
to hospital oxy masks tubbing like you do (grin) Hope to
see you at the rats rally.
Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36 On the road in N.D.


Good morning everyone:

I don't know about anyone else, but I like working on electrical with as
many worries put aside as possible.

One of the things I do is to screwdrivers. I will cut a length of clear
tubing that is a tight fit on the shaft of the blade and cover all but the
tip of the screwdriver. This helps me to get into close quarters and not
worry about arcing and sparking. I find the clear tubing from
hospital oxy masks works well. If I don't have any tubing I at least wrap
the shaft with electrical tape, to keep from going to welding school.

Just some thoughts,

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
84FC35
Duncan, Oklahoma





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05-30-2007, 04:33
Post: #4
Tool tip working on Birds
Many years ago (when company gave customer service), my father worked
for Edison Company. Back then, they had Range Repairmen who would fix
a broken electric stove at no charge. It was a matter of course that
when a rangeman wanted to check if any power was coming in, he would
lick two fingers and touch them to the wires. Then say, "Yep, 220",
or whatevere the voltage was, if any.. I would watch in awe over
this.I still am in awe, if I tried this, I would end up on my butt!!
Jack Smith


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> It's a good thought... my brother-in-law worked as a maintenance
> electrician in several large facilities -- he had a whole set of
> screwdrivers made with a plastic sleeve covering the shaft, leaving
> just a bit of the tip exposed.
>
> I will say, the man had nerves of steel. An old apartment house my
> mom owned required a new service box for one of the units. It had to
> be wired hot (to avoid shutting down the other apartments and the
> bother of getting the power company out to disconnect/reconnect the
> wire at the pole. There was no 'master' switch.). While working on
> it, a regular screwdriver brushed against a connector on the conduit
> -- an impressive shower of sparks filled the air. My brother-in-law
> didn't even flinch. His comment, " I ruined my screwdriver
> -- I thought that thing was plastic!"
>
> Pete Masterson
> aeonix1@...
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42'
> El Sobrante, CA
>
>
>
>
> On May 30, 2007, at 7:25 AM, Ralph L. Fullenwider wrote:
>
> > Good morning everyone:
> >
> > I don't know about anyone else, but I like working on electrical
> > with as
> > many worries put aside as possible.
> >
> > One of the things I do is to screwdrivers. I will cut a length of
> > clear
> > tubing that is a tight fit on the shaft of the blade and cover all
> > but the
> > tip of the screwdriver. This helps me to get into close quarters
> > and not
> > worry about arcing and sparking. I find the clear tubing from
> > hospital oxy masks works well. If I don't have any tubing I at
> > least wrap
> > the shaft with electrical tape, to keep from going to welding
> > school.
> >
> > Just some thoughts,
> >
> > Safe travels,
> >
> > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > 84FC35
> > Duncan, Oklahoma
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
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05-30-2007, 15:04
Post: #5
Tool tip working on Birds
Thanks Ralph. Only one caution of this, it does not make the screwdriver
invincible. Continue to check for damage when using it.
On the same note, electrical heat shrink works really well too.

Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada


----- Original Message ----
From: Ralph L. Fullenwider
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:25:27 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tool tip working on Birds













Good morning everyone:



I don't know about anyone else, but I like working on electrical with as

many worries put aside as possible.



One of the things I do is to screwdrivers. I will cut a length of clear

tubing that is a tight fit on the shaft of the blade and cover all but the

tip of the screwdriver. This helps me to get into close quarters and not

worry about arcing and sparking. I find the clear tubing from

hospital oxy masks works well. If I don't have any tubing I at least wrap

the shaft with electrical tape, to keep from going to welding school.



Just some thoughts,



Safe travels,



Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider

84FC35

Duncan, Oklahoma














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05-30-2007, 15:23
Post: #6
Tool tip working on Birds
The best way is to turn off the power to the dash and anywhere where
you are working with power. No matter how easy you are sooner or
later you will screw up and short something out. The wires on these
old dashes are very stiff and if someone was careless before you and
left a nick in a wire just removing the dash will cause problems
that may cost you a lot of time. It you are going to remove the lower
and upper dash carefully pull up the bottom dash first, reach behind
it and using your hand gently guide the wires back to keep the stain
off the dash components. The dashes were originally tie wrapped at
the dash to prevent this but no telling what someone else has done so
be cautious the first time you open it up. And if you are going to
remove the lower and upper dash to work on it, make sure the barrel
connectors or the plastic male/female plugs are marked with indelible
ink (like the factory originally used) so you can put everything back
together right. When I rebuilt my dash one of the plugs was mismarked
and I didnt do this. Took a lot of extra time to rewire it correctly.

If anyone wants to see what a FC dash looks like when it comes apart
take a look here. http://tinyurl.com/2dhbxn

See picture P1040010 the upper left side of the upper dash, the blank
accessory slot. Pull that out and behind it is the screw for the left
side of the upper dash. The left screw is holding the microphone
holder to the outside of the dash.

Tom warner
vernon center,ny
1985 Pt 40






At 11:04 PM 5/30/2007, you wrote:
>Thanks Ralph. Only one caution of this, it does not make the
>screwdriver invincible. Continue to check for damage when using it.
>On the same note, electrical heat shrink works really well too.
>
>Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
>Terrace, B.C. Canada
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Ralph L. Fullenwider
>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:25:27 AM
>Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tool tip working on Birds
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Good morning everyone:
>
>
>
>I don't know about anyone else, but I like working on electrical with as
>
>many worries put aside as possible.
>
>
>
>One of the things I do is to screwdrivers. I will cut a length of clear
>
>tubing that is a tight fit on the shaft of the blade and cover all but the
>
>tip of the screwdriver. This helps me to get into close quarters and not
>
>worry about arcing and sparking. I find the clear tubing from
>
>hospital oxy masks works well. If I don't have any tubing I at least wrap
>
>the shaft with electrical tape, to keep from going to welding school.
>
>
>
>Just some thoughts,
>
>
>
>Safe travels,
>
>
>
>Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
>
>84FC35
>
>Duncan, Oklahoma
>
>
>
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05-31-2007, 00:59
Post: #7
Tool tip working on Birds
Tom,
Could you please tell me what the toggle switch on the front of the base of the
dash assembly is for??? That is the one on the oposite side of the spring brake
knob... I have a switch there, but do not know what it goes too...

Sea Ya
Larry
NYC
84 35FCSB



----- Original Message ----
From: Tom Warner
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:23:31 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Tool tip working on Birds

The best way is to turn off the power to the dash and anywhere where
you are working with power. No matter how easy you are sooner or
later you will screw up and short something out. The wires on these
old dashes are very stiff and if someone was careless before you and
left a nick in a wire just removing the dash will cause problems
that may cost you a lot of time. It you are going to remove the lower
and upper dash carefully pull up the bottom dash first, reach behind
it and using your hand gently guide the wires back to keep the stain
off the dash components. The dashes were originally tie wrapped at
the dash to prevent this but no telling what someone else has done so
be cautious the first time you open it up. And if you are going to
remove the lower and upper dash to work on it, make sure the barrel
connectors or the plastic male/female plugs are marked with indelible
ink (like the factory originally used) so you can put everything back
together right. When I rebuilt my dash one of the plugs was mismarked
and I didnt do this. Took a lot of extra time to rewire it correctly.

If anyone wants to see what a FC dash looks like when it comes apart
take a look here. http://tinyurl. com/2dhbxn

See picture P1040010 the upper left side of the upper dash, the blank
accessory slot. Pull that out and behind it is the screw for the left
side of the upper dash. The left screw is holding the microphone
holder to the outside of the dash.

Tom warner
vernon center,ny
1985 Pt 40

At 11:04 PM 5/30/2007, you wrote:
>Thanks Ralph. Only one caution of this, it does not make the
>screwdriver invincible. Continue to check for damage when using it.
>On the same note, electrical heat shrink works really well too.
>
>Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
>Terrace, B.C. Canada
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Ralph L. Fullenwider
>To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
>Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:25:27 AM
>Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Tool tip working on Birds
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Good morning everyone:
>
>
>
>I don't know about anyone else, but I like working on electrical with as
>
>many worries put aside as possible.
>
>
>
>One of the things I do is to screwdrivers. I will cut a length of clear
>
>tubing that is a tight fit on the shaft of the blade and cover all but the
>
>tip of the screwdriver. This helps me to get into close quarters and not
>
>worry about arcing and sparking. I find the clear tubing from
>
>hospital oxy masks works well. If I don't have any tubing I at least wrap
>
>the shaft with electrical tape, to keep from going to welding school.
>
>
>
>Just some thoughts,
>
>
>
>Safe travels,
>
>
>
>Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
>
>84FC35
>
>Duncan, Oklahoma
>
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>
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