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06-09-2007, 14:08
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The entry step system on our BB's must have been high tech talking
points in the day. After 7 hours of rewiring,installing new parts, troubleshooting and adjusting, making the thing work,there has to be a better way to open the door, extend and retract the step and turn two lights on and off. Regards; Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" Niceville, FL |
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06-09-2007, 14:17
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You mean your 'well' lights work with the door?
Pete Masterson aeonix1@... '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42' on the road near Evergreen CO On Jun 9, 2007, at 8:08 PM, jwasnewski wrote: > The entry step system on our BB's must have been high tech talking > points in the day. After 7 hours of rewiring,installing new parts, > troubleshooting and adjusting, making the thing work,there has to be a > better way to open the door, extend and retract the step and turn two > lights on and off. > > Regards; > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > Niceville, FL |
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06-09-2007, 14:48
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Yes, on my coach there is a 3 way switch near the step well and it turns the
well light on when the door is opened. Also the step light. Or you have the option of doing it manually. It is not easy to figure out. I have some feedback in my stepwell light, glows slightly at night, I suspect a faulty ground somewhere. At this point I will tackle that another day. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" Niceville, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete Masterson To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this You mean your 'well' lights work with the door? Pete Masterson aeonix1@... '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42' on the road near Evergreen CO On Jun 9, 2007, at 8:08 PM, jwasnewski wrote: > The entry step system on our BB's must have been high tech talking > points in the day. After 7 hours of rewiring,installing new parts, > troubleshooting and adjusting, making the thing work,there has to be a > better way to open the door, extend and retract the step and turn two > lights on and off. > > Regards; > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > Niceville, FL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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06-10-2007, 04:28
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Ok... my well light switch has 3 positions, on-off-on. I guess the
door switch, presumably hidden behind the fabric covering the hinge, is stuck in the on position. Another project for the list... Pete Masterson '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 aeonix1@... On the road near Evergreen Colorado On Jun 9, 2007, at 8:48 PM, Leroy Eckert wrote: > Yes, on my coach there is a 3 way switch near the step well and it > turns the well light on when the door is opened. Also the step > light. Or you have the option of doing it manually. It is not easy > to figure out. I have some feedback in my stepwell light, glows > slightly at night, I suspect a faulty ground somewhere. At this > point I will tackle that another day. > > Leroy Eckert > 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" > Niceville, FL > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Pete Masterson > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:17 PM > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this > > > You mean your 'well' lights work with the door? <snip> |
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06-10-2007, 13:46
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I just have basic on-off "step master" and "step light" switches.
"Step master" keeps the step out; "step light" turns them on (and leaves them on!). Did the older coaches have the ability to flip the step lights with the door?? If so, maybe mine is stuck, too. If not, I'm going to hack this feature in. :-) -Ryan '86 PT-40 8V92 Tri-Cities, WA On 6/10/07, Pete Masterson > > Ok... my well light switch has 3 positions, on-off-on. I guess the > door switch, presumably hidden behind the fabric covering the hinge, > is stuck in the on position. Another project for the list... > |
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06-10-2007, 13:58
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On my '95, the equivalent to the step master (that holds the step out
if the coach is not running) is located on the main panel and is labeled 'Aux. Step' with the word 'extended' below the switch to one side. The system ignores the switch when the ignition switch is on (the step is withdrawn unless the door is open). The well light switch is conveniently located on the lower front panel by the steps where you regularly bump it if you're carrying stuff (such as a bundle of laundry) on or off the bus... Pete Masterson aeonix1@... '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42' El Sobrante, CA On Jun 10, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Ryan Wright wrote: > I just have basic on-off "step master" and "step light" switches. > "Step master" keeps the step out; "step light" turns them on (and > leaves them on!). Did the older coaches have the ability to flip the > step lights with the door?? If so, maybe mine is stuck, too. > > If not, I'm going to hack this feature in. :-) > > -Ryan > '86 PT-40 8V92 > Tri-Cities, WA > > On 6/10/07, Pete Masterson >> >> Ok... my well light switch has 3 positions, on-off-on. I guess the >> door switch, presumably hidden behind the fabric covering the hinge, >> is stuck in the on position. Another project for the list... >> > |
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06-10-2007, 16:26
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Pete,
> On my '95, the equivalent to the step master (that holds the step out > if the coach is not running) is located on the main panel and is > labeled 'Aux. Step' with the word 'extended' below the switch to one > side. The system ignores the switch when the ignition switch is on > (the step is withdrawn unless the door is open). Ooh, that is a nice feature - ignoring the switch with the ignition on. I'm going to rewire mine to do the same. When bringing the coach home from Dallas, I had truckers on the CB reminding me to put the step back in - both times I'd left the darn switch on and the blue bulb that indicates such is so dim it's useless. So, I have two switches: I have the switch on the dash with the useless blue bulb and I also have one in the stair well next to the "well light" switch (that's the one with the "stair master" label). If either are on, the step stays out. I don't understand the purpose of needing two, but whatever. ![]() > The well light > switch is conveniently located on the lower front panel by the steps > where you regularly bump it if you're carrying stuff (such as a > bundle of laundry) on or off the bus... LOL!! So you've had that problem too! :-) -Ryan '86 PT-40 8V92 Tri-Cities, WA |
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06-10-2007, 22:26
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I don't know about the lights. Mine is like Pete's and can be a headache at
times. I do know the valve is different on earlier models and the earlier models wiring is simpler. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" Niceville, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: Ryan Wright To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this I just have basic on-off "step master" and "step light" switches. "Step master" keeps the step out; "step light" turns them on (and leaves them on!). Did the older coaches have the ability to flip the step lights with the door?? If so, maybe mine is stuck, too. If not, I'm going to hack this feature in. :-) -Ryan '86 PT-40 8V92 Tri-Cities, WA On 6/10/07, Pete Masterson > > Ok... my well light switch has 3 positions, on-off-on. I guess the > door switch, presumably hidden behind the fabric covering the hinge, > is stuck in the on position. Another project for the list... > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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06-10-2007, 23:04
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I have mine working except for an intermittant light.
I have studied the drawing so long I still don't know what is going on. Does anyone know what happens electrically when the step is either fully extended or fully retracted( in the park position for lack of a better phrase)Is power totally released from the air step solenoids when the park positions are attained? I cannot see how this could happen. If so, it would be accomplished somehow by mercury switch position with door switches working properly, but if the opposite mercury switch was not closed awaiting power I cannot understand how the step would move in the opposite direction. I noticed while working on mine that the actuating solenoids(coils they are called on the valve itself) get faily warm which generated this question. If power is constant the appropriate actuating coil will stay fairly warm. If this is normal I am good. In short, is power constantly applied on the coil in its respective park position at all times until either the aux step switch is moved or the door is moved thereby sending power through a mercury switch to the opposite end of the air solenoid to actuate it. I hope this makes sense to someone. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" Niceville, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete Masterson To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this On my '95, the equivalent to the step master (that holds the step out if the coach is not running) is located on the main panel and is labeled 'Aux. Step' with the word 'extended' below the switch to one side. The system ignores the switch when the ignition switch is on (the step is withdrawn unless the door is open). The well light switch is conveniently located on the lower front panel by the steps where you regularly bump it if you're carrying stuff (such as a bundle of laundry) on or off the bus... Pete Masterson aeonix1@... '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42' El Sobrante, CA On Jun 10, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Ryan Wright wrote: > I just have basic on-off "step master" and "step light" switches. > "Step master" keeps the step out; "step light" turns them on (and > leaves them on!). Did the older coaches have the ability to flip the > step lights with the door?? If so, maybe mine is stuck, too. > > If not, I'm going to hack this feature in. :-) > > -Ryan > '86 PT-40 8V92 > Tri-Cities, WA > > On 6/10/07, Pete Masterson >> >> Ok... my well light switch has 3 positions, on-off-on. I guess the >> door switch, presumably hidden behind the fabric covering the hinge, >> is stuck in the on position. Another project for the list... >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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06-11-2007, 02:49
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Leroy:
In my case I do not have mercury switches but switches nevertheless. Neither when the step is extended or retracted is there power to the actuating solenoid. Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge" Terrace, B.C. Canada ----- Original Message ---- From: Leroy Eckert To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:04:20 AM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this I have mine working except for an intermittant light. I have studied the drawing so long I still don't know what is going on. Does anyone know what happens electrically when the step is either fully extended or fully retracted( in the park position for lack of a better phrase)Is power totally released from the air step solenoids when the park positions are attained? I cannot see how this could happen. If so, it would be accomplished somehow by mercury switch position with door switches working properly, but if the opposite mercury switch was not closed awaiting power I cannot understand how the step would move in the opposite direction. I noticed while working on mine that the actuating solenoids(coils they are called on the valve itself) get faily warm which generated this question. If power is constant the appropriate actuating coil will stay fairly warm. If this is normal I am good. In short, is power constantly applied on the coil in its respective park position at all times until either the aux step switch is moved or the door is moved thereby sending power through a mercury switch to the opposite end of the air solenoid to actuate it. I hope this makes sense to someone. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40"Smoke N Mirrors" Niceville, FL ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete Masterson To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] I have to post this On my '95, the equivalent to the step master (that holds the step out if the coach is not running) is located on the main panel and is labeled 'Aux. Step' with the word 'extended' below the switch to one side. The system ignores the switch when the ignition switch is on (the step is withdrawn unless the door is open). The well light switch is conveniently located on the lower front panel by the steps where you regularly bump it if you're carrying stuff (such as a bundle of laundry) on or off the bus... Pete Masterson aeonix1@mac. com '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42' El Sobrante, CA On Jun 10, 2007, at 7:46 PM, Ryan Wright wrote: > I just have basic on-off "step master" and "step light" switches. > "Step master" keeps the step out; "step light" turns them on (and > leaves them on!). Did the older coaches have the ability to flip the > step lights with the door?? If so, maybe mine is stuck, too. > > If not, I'm going to hack this feature in. :-) > > -Ryan > '86 PT-40 8V92 > Tri-Cities, WA > > On 6/10/07, Pete Masterson >> >> Ok... my well light switch has 3 positions, on-off-on. I guess the >> door switch, presumably hidden behind the fabric covering the hinge, >> is stuck in the on position. Another project for the list... >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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