RIV

[erniecarpet@...]

John, we could set up a "fund" to help you get there. We plan on being in Fla
before the rally, and if we do this- we could have our meals at their new
clubhouse. The only time you need a ticket to get into the RIV is for their
dinners. Ernie- planning ahead


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[Blair]

At 04:29 AM 5/5/2005, you wrote:
>i bet your right! how much was it last year?$250?
> ----- Original Message -----
> Randy,
For $485, can you imagine the feed we could put on here
at the ranch?
The RITV folks are really on something......

Blair in southern Oregon


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[John]

I just talked to Fred Vandenberg at BB and he confirmed that the
price for RITV 2005 is $485.00. I'm glad that I got to go to my FIRST
& LAST RITV last year, it isn't worth that much money for me to
attend again. Instead I will attend every Maxton Mini Rally for the
remaining races of the year and the Myrtle Beach Rally next year too.

I wonder if you can attend the pre rally in the field at Perry,
before RIV, without attending the RIV?


"REMEMBER SEPTEMBER 11, 2001"
John Finn
'82 35FCRB
BLUEBIRD WANDERLODGE
TO VISIT THE "FINN'S INN EXPRESS" REMODELING ADVENTURE
GO TO;
http://www.pbase.com/image/24977457
'66 SUPERIOR / IH 392 GAS V8 32' PUSHER "FOR SALE"
SEE THE OLD COACH AT:
http://www.pbase.com/image/26052733
HOPKINS, SOUTH CAROLINA

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
wrote:
> i bet your right! how much was it last year?$250?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jay Darst
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:56 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: RIV
>
>
> Bob,
> I bet it will be record breaking... a record low attendance.
>
> Jay Darst
> 85PT40
> SpringfieldIL
> Where I bet this forum will have its own RIV running concurrently
with
> RIV2005
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "robertnloomas"
> wrote:
> > The Rally in the valley for 2005 will now cost one coach with
two
> > people $485. for three days.I am gussing that the turn out will
not
> be
> > recorded braking
> > Bob Loomas 1985 PT
>
>
>
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[John Stiles]

John,

Did Fred say why the sudden and huge increase? I noticed that
they did not add the 4th day back so is there something planned that
would cost this much difference? I had the same thoughts on the pre-
rally area. Say hi to "Buddy".

John Stiles
1980 33FC
"My Navion"


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "John"
wrote:
> I just talked to Fred Vandenberg at BB and he confirmed that the
> price for RITV 2005 is $485.00. I'm glad that I got to go to my
FIRST
> & LAST RITV last year, it isn't worth that much money for me to
> attend again. Instead I will attend every Maxton Mini Rally for
the
> remaining races of the year and the Myrtle Beach Rally next year
too.
>
> I wonder if you can attend the pre rally in the field at Perry,
> before RIV, without attending the RIV?
>
>
> "REMEMBER SEPTEMBER 11, 2001"
> John Finn
> '82 35FCRB
> BLUEBIRD WANDERLODGE
> TO VISIT THE "FINN'S INN EXPRESS" REMODELING ADVENTURE
> GO TO;
> http://www.pbase.com/image/24977457
> '66 SUPERIOR / IH 392 GAS V8 32' PUSHER "FOR SALE"
> SEE THE OLD COACH AT:
> http://www.pbase.com/image/26052733
> HOPKINS, SOUTH CAROLINA
>
> ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
> wrote:
> > i bet your right! how much was it last year?$250?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jay Darst
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:56 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: RIV
> >
> >
> > Bob,
> > I bet it will be record breaking... a record low attendance.
> >
> > Jay Darst
> > 85PT40
> > SpringfieldIL
> > Where I bet this forum will have its own RIV running
concurrently
> with
> > RIV2005
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "robertnloomas"
> > wrote:
> > > The Rally in the valley for 2005 will now cost one coach
with
> two
> > > people $485. for three days.I am gussing that the turn out
will
> not
> > be
> > > recorded braking
> > > Bob Loomas 1985 PT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
---
> ----------
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> >
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[Mike Hohnstein]

The RIV looked like a sales activity to me. Some celebration of the
Wanderlodge, but I suspect selling new coaches was the major interest for those
promoting the affair. It's obvious that those well heeled individuals, for whom
$500 is no matter, would be more likely to seriously consider a newer coach.
Obviously the new and improved "Coach Works" is interested in looking forward
and not back ward. That is the American way, I think.
Mike Hohnstein
Germantown, WI
83FC35
----- Original Message -----
From: Blair
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: RIV


At 04:29 AM 5/5/2005, you wrote:
>i bet your right! how much was it last year?$250?
> ----- Original Message -----
> Randy,
For $485, can you imagine the feed we could put on here
at the ranch?
The RITV folks are really on something......

Blair in southern Oregon


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[David Thompson]

Maybe we should consider the campground on the west side of I 75.
We've been going to the RIV for the past 5 years, what we really enjoy
is getting together with old friends and making new friends. Wonder if
there would be a daily fee to get in if you didn't stay there. As it
is at that fee, we would seriously consider not going.

David Thompson
89FC35
Cameron, Wi.
>
> Did Fred say why the sudden and huge increase? I noticed that
> they did not add the 4th day back so is there something planned that
> would cost this much difference? I had the same thoughts on the pre-
> rally area. Say hi to "Buddy".
>
> John Stiles
> 1980 33FC
> "My Navion"
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "John"
> wrote:
> > I just talked to Fred Vandenberg at BB and he confirmed that the
> > price for RITV 2005 is $485.00. I'm glad that I got to go to my
> FIRST
> > & LAST RITV last year, it isn't worth that much money for me to
> > attend again. Instead I will attend every Maxton Mini Rally for
> the
> > remaining races of the year and the Myrtle Beach Rally next year
> too.
> >
> > I wonder if you can attend the pre rally in the field at Perry,
> > before RIV, without attending the RIV?
> >
> >
> > "REMEMBER SEPTEMBER 11, 2001"
> > John Finn
> > '82 35FCRB
> > BLUEBIRD WANDERLODGE
> > TO VISIT THE "FINN'S INN EXPRESS" REMODELING ADVENTURE
> > GO TO;
> > http://www.pbase.com/image/24977457
> > '66 SUPERIOR / IH 392 GAS V8 32' PUSHER "FOR SALE"
> > SEE THE OLD COACH AT:
> > http://www.pbase.com/image/26052733
> > HOPKINS, SOUTH CAROLINA
> >
> > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, randydupree
> > wrote:
> > > i bet your right! how much was it last year?$250?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Jay Darst
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:56 PM
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: RIV
> > >
> > >
> > > Bob,
> > > I bet it will be record breaking... a record low attendance.
> > >
> > > Jay Darst
> > > 85PT40
> > > SpringfieldIL
> > > Where I bet this forum will have its own RIV running
> concurrently
> > with
> > > RIV2005
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "robertnloomas"
> > > wrote:
> > > > The Rally in the valley for 2005 will now cost one coach
> with
> > two
> > > > people $485. for three days.I am gussing that the turn out
> will
> > not
> > > be
> > > > recorded braking
> > > > Bob Loomas 1985 PT
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> ---
> > ----------
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/
> > >
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> > >
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> of
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> > >
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[John Stiles]

Mike,

I tend to agree. It appears that the new "brass" either isn't
aware of or chooses to ignore what has worked in the past.
Wanderlodge ownership and loyalty has been kind of a food chain. In
order for the current owners to step up to a new one there has to be
demand for their older unit and so on down the line. It wouldn't be
very wise to persue only the top of the chain (the money) while
ticking off or ignoring the lower rungs. I certainly hope they have
another reason for the fee hike. For us FC (and older PT) owners
$480.00 will buy parts or upgrades that we might be wanting or
needing. Lets see, 3 days of entertainment or put the money toward a
moving map. Not too hard to choose.....

John Stiles
1980 33FC
"My Navion"



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
<MHOHNSTEIN@w...> wrote:
> The RIV looked like a sales activity to me. Some celebration of the
Wanderlodge, but I suspect selling new coaches was the major interest
for those promoting the affair. It's obvious that those well heeled
individuals, for whom $500 is no matter, would be more likely to
seriously consider a newer coach. Obviously the new and
improved "Coach Works" is interested in looking forward and not back
ward. That is the American way, I think.
> Mike Hohnstein
> Germantown, WI
> 83FC35

[Tom McCarthy]

By the time of RIV, that $485 could be a half tank of diesel.

Tom McCarthy
95 PT42
Poway, CA


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "John Stiles"
wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I tend to agree. It appears that the new "brass" either isn't
> aware of or chooses to ignore what has worked in the past.
> Wanderlodge ownership and loyalty has been kind of a food chain.
In
> order for the current owners to step up to a new one there has to
be
> demand for their older unit and so on down the line. It wouldn't
be
> very wise to persue only the top of the chain (the money) while
> ticking off or ignoring the lower rungs. I certainly hope they
have
> another reason for the fee hike. For us FC (and older PT) owners
> $480.00 will buy parts or upgrades that we might be wanting or
> needing. Lets see, 3 days of entertainment or put the money
toward a
> moving map. Not too hard to choose.....
>
> John Stiles
> 1980 33FC
> "My Navion"
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
> <MHOHNSTEIN@w...> wrote:
> > The RIV looked like a sales activity to me. Some celebration of
the
> Wanderlodge, but I suspect selling new coaches was the major
interest
> for those promoting the affair. It's obvious that those well
heeled
> individuals, for whom $500 is no matter, would be more likely to
> seriously consider a newer coach. Obviously the new and
> improved "Coach Works" is interested in looking forward and not
back
> ward. That is the American way, I think.
> > Mike Hohnstein
> > Germantown, WI
> > 83FC35

[Bob & Carol Howald`]

John:
Your exacatly right, and well said. Everyone know's what the
rally is all about " SALES" but without the support of the customer's
buying the used coach's the people wanting to move into the new one's
would have a hard time unloading their's. I too think BB is missing the
point. Customer royalty used to be the real substance at BB but it's
rapidly disolving. I can remember a time when if you even looked at a
different brand of coach you would feel like you were cheatin on BB.Iam
not sure but I think my first BB rally cost $75.00 and they used to
give away all sorts of door prizes during the entire affair. Time's
have changed.....Won't be attending this year...Bob 93pt40 Illinois

[Jack & Donna Smith]

John: Yeah, those moving map Navagation systems are good, But even
better, the $485 will purchase a new tire, so I could be secure using
the Nav system.. (Or make a dent in gettin a couple of Alcoas)!
Jack Smith
1973FC31 (without Alcoas)
SoCal
==================================================================
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "John Stiles" wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I tend to agree. It appears that the new "brass" either isn't
> aware of or chooses to ignore what has worked in the past.
> Wanderlodge ownership and loyalty has been kind of a food chain. In
> order for the current owners to step up to a new one there has to be
> demand for their older unit and so on down the line. It wouldn't be
> very wise to persue only the top of the chain (the money) while
> ticking off or ignoring the lower rungs. I certainly hope they have
> another reason for the fee hike. For us FC (and older PT) owners
> $480.00 will buy parts or upgrades that we might be wanting or
> needing. Lets see, 3 days of entertainment or put the money toward a
> moving map. Not too hard to choose.....
>
> John Stiles
> 1980 33FC
> "My Navion"
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
> <MHOHNSTEIN@w...> wrote:
> > The RIV looked like a sales activity to me. Some celebration of the
> Wanderlodge, but I suspect selling new coaches was the major interest
> for those promoting the affair. It's obvious that those well heeled
> individuals, for whom $500 is no matter, would be more likely to
> seriously consider a newer coach. Obviously the new and
> improved "Coach Works" is interested in looking forward and not back
> ward. That is the American way, I think.
> > Mike Hohnstein
> > Germantown, WI
> > 83FC35