Leveling system solenoid

[Scott Forman]

I am troubleshooting my inoperative levelers, and I think I have
identified the culprit in one of the three-pin solenoids mounted under
the step well. When I jump the current cross the solenoid, the motor
runs, so I am pretty sure this is the problem. It is the one where the
third pin must be grounded to deliver the current. Where can I find
one of these?

I bought a generic solenoid that looks similar, but it isn't getting
the job done.

Thanks
Scott Forman
86 PT38
Memphis

[Pete Masterson]

They're by Bosch and don't get cheap, Chinese-made replacements as
they'll fail quickly. Better auto parts stores should carry them, but
you may need to ask. Often the cheap ones are in blister packs on
racks in the automotive electrical department.

I bought a bunch of Bosch relays to have on hand from an eBay vendor
-- about $1 each or so. Genuine Bosch in a 20/30 amp-rating. This URL
is similar to what I purchased:
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GENUINE-B...-Amp-SPDT-
Auto-Relay-10-
PACK_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33721QQihZ002QQitemZ120136828374QQrdZ1>
(You may need to piece this back together)

Or just search eBay for "Bosch relay". You can get them with and
without sockets.

This URL is for a PDF with a bunch of wiring diagrams showing
operation of a Bosch relay.
<http://www.dlcparts.com/images/BoschGuide.pdf>

And this web site has a great description of how a relay works:
<http://www.classictruckshop.com/clubs/ea...cts/bosch/
relay.htm>

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
aeonix1@...



On Jul 4, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Scott Forman wrote:

> I am troubleshooting my inoperative levelers, and I think I have
> identified the culprit in one of the three-pin solenoids mounted under
> the step well. When I jump the current cross the solenoid, the motor
> runs, so I am pretty sure this is the problem. It is the one where
> the
> third pin must be grounded to deliver the current. Where can I find
> one of these?
>
> I bought a generic solenoid that looks similar, but it isn't getting
> the job done.
>
> Thanks
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38
> Memphis



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[p_a_lazar]

Scott,

I hate being the master of the obvious Just call HWH. Just had my
solenoids replaced while there. They look like starter solenoids, but
I believe a bit different.

Paul
97wb43


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
wrote:
>
> I am troubleshooting my inoperative levelers, and I think I have
> identified the culprit in one of the three-pin solenoids mounted under
> the step well. When I jump the current cross the solenoid, the motor
> runs, so I am pretty sure this is the problem. It is the one where the
> third pin must be grounded to deliver the current. Where can I find
> one of these?
>
> I bought a generic solenoid that looks similar, but it isn't getting
> the job done.
>
> Thanks
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38
> Memphis
>

[Scott Forman]

Thanks for the response, but this is not what I need. I need a
solenoid, not a relay. The large metal cylindrical things often used
on older ignition circuits.

Scott

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> They're by Bosch and don't get cheap, Chinese-made replacements as
> they'll fail quickly. Better auto parts stores should carry them,
but
> you may need to ask. Often the cheap ones are in blister packs on
> racks in the automotive electrical department.
>
> I bought a bunch of Bosch relays to have on hand from an eBay
vendor
> -- about $1 each or so. Genuine Bosch in a 20/30 amp-rating. This
URL
> is similar to what I purchased:
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GENUINE-B...-Amp-SPDT-

> Auto-Relay-10-
>
PACK_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33721QQihZ002QQitemZ120136828374QQrdZ1
>
> (You may need to piece this back together)
>
> Or just search eBay for "Bosch relay". You can get them with and
> without sockets.
>
> This URL is for a PDF with a bunch of wiring diagrams showing
> operation of a Bosch relay.
> <http://www.dlcparts.com/images/BoschGuide.pdf>
>
> And this web site has a great description of how a relay works:
> <http://www.classictruckshop.com/clubs/ea...cts/bosch/
> relay.htm>
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Scott Forman wrote:
>
> > I am troubleshooting my inoperative levelers, and I think I have
> > identified the culprit in one of the three-pin solenoids mounted
under
> > the step well. When I jump the current cross the solenoid, the
motor
> > runs, so I am pretty sure this is the problem. It is the one
where
> > the
> > third pin must be grounded to deliver the current. Where can I
find
> > one of these?
> >
> > I bought a generic solenoid that looks similar, but it isn't
getting
> > the job done.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Scott Forman
> > 86 PT38
> > Memphis
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Scott Forman]

Yes, I will call them if I have to, but wondered if it was more
common item I might find at a place like NAPA. Lots of old cars use
solenoids that LOOK similar....

Scott

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "p_a_lazar"
wrote:
>
> Scott,
>
> I hate being the master of the obvious Just call HWH. Just had my
> solenoids replaced while there. They look like starter solenoids,
but
> I believe a bit different.
>
> Paul
> 97wb43
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I am troubleshooting my inoperative levelers, and I think I have
> > identified the culprit in one of the three-pin solenoids mounted
under
> > the step well. When I jump the current cross the solenoid, the
motor
> > runs, so I am pretty sure this is the problem. It is the one
where the
> > third pin must be grounded to deliver the current. Where can I
find
> > one of these?
> >
> > I bought a generic solenoid that looks similar, but it isn't
getting
> > the job done.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Scott Forman
> > 86 PT38
> > Memphis
> >
>

[truitt44@...>]

Scott,
you should be able to find stamped on the end caps the model # and make. You
will probably have to do a good cleaning first. On one of mine the stamp was
faint but could read with a good light and magnifying glass.
Howard T., Sowega, 86 PT40


>
> From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
> Date: 2007/07/04 Wed PM 05:18:09 EDT
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Leveling system solenoid
>
> Yes, I will call them if I have to, but wondered if it was more
> common item I might find at a place like NAPA. Lots of old cars use
> solenoids that LOOK similar....
>
> Scott
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "p_a_lazar"
> wrote:
> >
> > Scott,
> >
> > I hate being the master of the obvious Just call HWH. Just had my
> > solenoids replaced while there. They look like starter solenoids,
> but
> > I believe a bit different.
> >
> > Paul
> > 97wb43
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I am troubleshooting my inoperative levelers, and I think I have
> > > identified the culprit in one of the three-pin solenoids mounted
> under
> > > the step well. When I jump the current cross the solenoid, the
> motor
> > > runs, so I am pretty sure this is the problem. It is the one
> where the
> > > third pin must be grounded to deliver the current. Where can I
> find
> > > one of these?
> > >
> > > I bought a generic solenoid that looks similar, but it isn't
> getting
> > > the job done.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Scott Forman
> > > 86 PT38
> > > Memphis
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>

[truitt44@...>]

Scott,
Cole Hersee is the brand of solenoid on my coach. I would think it would be the
same on yours. Google on Cole Hersee call home office and see if they have a
distributor in Memphis. They will send you a catalog if you ask.
Howard T., Sowega, 86 PT40
>
> From: "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
> Date: 2007/07/04 Wed PM 05:16:50 EDT
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Leveling system solenoid
>
> Thanks for the response, but this is not what I need. I need a
> solenoid, not a relay. The large metal cylindrical things often used
> on older ignition circuits.
>
> Scott
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> wrote:
> >
> > They're by Bosch and don't get cheap, Chinese-made replacements as
> > they'll fail quickly. Better auto parts stores should carry them,
> but
> > you may need to ask. Often the cheap ones are in blister packs on
> > racks in the automotive electrical department.
> >
> > I bought a bunch of Bosch relays to have on hand from an eBay
> vendor
> > -- about $1 each or so. Genuine Bosch in a 20/30 amp-rating. This
> URL
> > is similar to what I purchased:
> > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GENUINE-B...-Amp-SPDT-
>
> > Auto-Relay-10-
> >
> PACK_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33721QQihZ002QQitemZ120136828374QQrdZ1
> >
> > (You may need to piece this back together)
> >
> > Or just search eBay for "Bosch relay". You can get them with and
> > without sockets.
> >
> > This URL is for a PDF with a bunch of wiring diagrams showing
> > operation of a Bosch relay.
> > <http://www.dlcparts.com/images/BoschGuide.pdf>
> >
> > And this web site has a great description of how a relay works:
> > <http://www.classictruckshop.com/clubs/ea...cts/bosch/
> > relay.htm>
> >
> > Pete Masterson
> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > El Sobrante CA
> > aeonix1@...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jul 4, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Scott Forman wrote:
> >
> > > I am troubleshooting my inoperative levelers, and I think I have
> > > identified the culprit in one of the three-pin solenoids mounted
> under
> > > the step well. When I jump the current cross the solenoid, the
> motor
> > > runs, so I am pretty sure this is the problem. It is the one
> where
> > > the
> > > third pin must be grounded to deliver the current. Where can I
> find
> > > one of these?
> > >
> > > I bought a generic solenoid that looks similar, but it isn't
> getting
> > > the job done.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Scott Forman
> > > 86 PT38
> > > Memphis
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>

[truitt44@...>]

Scott,
I ordered my Cole Hersee solenoid from Ryder Fleet Services. If this leveling
unit came with the solenoids from HWH they may have used a different brand.
Howard, Sowega, 86 PT40

[Scott Forman]

Which model did you use?

Scott



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
>
> Scott,
> I ordered my Cole Hersee solenoid from Ryder Fleet Services. If this
leveling unit came with the solenoids from HWH they may have used a
different brand.
> Howard, Sowega, 86 PT40
>

[bloomas]

----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Forman
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 4:16 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Leveling system solenoid
Scoot You need a 75 amp continuous duty solenoid
witch you can get at Napa or any heavy duty trucks part house.Dump trucks use
the same solenoid.
Bob Loomas 1985 PT 36


Thanks for the response, but this is not what I need. I need a
solenoid, not a relay. The large metal cylindrical things often used
on older ignition circuits.

Scott

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> They're by Bosch and don't get cheap, Chinese-made replacements as
> they'll fail quickly. Better auto parts stores should carry them,
but
> you may need to ask. Often the cheap ones are in blister packs on
> racks in the automotive electrical department.
>
> I bought a bunch of Bosch relays to have on hand from an eBay
vendor
> -- about $1 each or so. Genuine Bosch in a 20/30 amp-rating. This
URL
> is similar to what I purchased:
> <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GENUINE-B...-Amp-SPDT-

> Auto-Relay-10-
>
PACK_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33721QQihZ002QQitemZ120136828374QQrdZ1
>
> (You may need to piece this back together)
>
> Or just search eBay for "Bosch relay". You can get them with and
> without sockets.
>
> This URL is for a PDF with a bunch of wiring diagrams showing
> operation of a Bosch relay.
> <http://www.dlcparts.com/images/BoschGuide.pdf>
>
> And this web site has a great description of how a relay works:
> <http://www.classictruckshop.com/clubs/ea...cts/bosch/
> relay.htm>
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2007, at 12:46 PM, Scott Forman wrote:
>
> > I am troubleshooting my inoperative levelers, and I think I have
> > identified the culprit in one of the three-pin solenoids mounted
under
> > the step well. When I jump the current cross the solenoid, the
motor
> > runs, so I am pretty sure this is the problem. It is the one
where
> > the
> > third pin must be grounded to deliver the current. Where can I
find
> > one of these?
> >
> > I bought a generic solenoid that looks similar, but it isn't
getting
> > the job done.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Scott Forman
> > 86 PT38
> > Memphis
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>





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