Entry Step

[bubblerboy64]

My entry step is not functioning. Previous owner just left it hang out
which gave me the willies. I temporarily tied it back with some wire.
I'd like to get it working. It looks like I am going to have to
replace a bunch of stuff even the steps themselves possibly. Is this
stuff all bluebird parts or are there other sources for what I will
need? Just need pointed in the right direction.

John Heckman
Central Pa
73 FC

[pattypape]

John,

I am not familiar with the step mechanism on a 73, But there is a
troubleshooting guide in the files for a later model, this may help.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Wand...ir%20Step/

Bill 88 FC


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
wrote:
>
> My entry step is not functioning. Previous owner just left it hang
out
> which gave me the willies. I temporarily tied it back with some
wire.
> I'd like to get it working. It looks like I am going to have to
> replace a bunch of stuff even the steps themselves possibly. Is
this
> stuff all bluebird parts or are there other sources for what I will
> need? Just need pointed in the right direction.
>
> John Heckman
> Central Pa
> 73 FC
>

[Sidney Breese]

John,
The diagrams and directions refer to a "safaety tape." It is pressure
sensitive and under the door frame. It is probaly shorted out. It is
is a safety measure so that your foot does not get crushed when the
step retracts, if you are on the step. In reality it does not seem
necessary since it is impossible to shut the door while you are on the
step! The strip is black and yellow striped and at one end (right?)
are two wires. You can cut them and that may fix the problem. If not
you can look elsewhere, but I suspect this will solve the problem. I
learned this trick at a RIV a few years ago. One of the BB service
techs told me about it.

Sid Breese
85PT40
Maysville, MO

[bubblerboy64]

Thanks for the info however my problems are a little more basic. I
don't have much of anything under that step. No mechanism or
valves.It appears that most parts are missing so my question is more
basic. I have what is an obvious switch on the inside door jam and
the steps them selves but I basically am going to have to start over
getting the air and electral components. Looks like a job for the
professionals. I just was wondering if this is all BB stuff or if
other coaches have similar? Don't think I am up to all that is
involved with this one.
John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC





>
> John,
> The diagrams and directions refer to a "safaety tape." It is
pressure
> sensitive and under the door frame. It is probaly shorted out. It
is
> is a safety measure so that your foot does not get crushed when the
> step retracts, if you are on the step. In reality it does not seem
> necessary since it is impossible to shut the door while you are on
the
> step! The strip is black and yellow striped and at one end
(right?)
> are two wires. You can cut them and that may fix the problem. If
not
> you can look elsewhere, but I suspect this will solve the problem.
I
> learned this trick at a RIV a few years ago. One of the BB service
> techs told me about it.
>
> Sid Breese
> 85PT40
> Maysville, MO
>

[Stephen Birtles]

On our 77 pretty basic also it is wired to a 4 way valve
push the door button in step goes up let the button out step comes out
speed regulation is done on the valve itself by way of controlling the
speed of the air exhausting
It has no micro or mercury switches just the valve
the only caveat is as with all other bird steps don't be too close when
the step comes out it will knock you on your butt
look for the wiring on your on the inside wall of the generator bay
there should be a ice cube relay thats where to start
if you plan it it out and ask questions here and proceed with
moderation you will be able to do it yourself
All the parts are available from various sources
Randy Dupree has a line on the ram and the valve the relay is
available at a good supply house potter and bromfeld ice cube double
ice cube
if you need a hand give me a call 905 328 0162
Stephen 77fc35

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info however my problems are a little more basic. I
> don't have much of anything under that step. No mechanism or
> valves.It appears that most parts are missing so my question is more
> basic. I have what is an obvious switch on the inside door jam and
> the steps them selves but I basically am going to have to start over
> getting the air and electral components. Looks like a job for the
> professionals. I just was wondering if this is all BB stuff or if
> other coaches have similar? Don't think I am up to all that is
> involved with this one.
> John Heckman
> central Pa
> 1973 FC
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > John,
> > The diagrams and directions refer to a "safaety tape." It is
> pressure
> > sensitive and under the door frame. It is probaly shorted out. It
> is
> > is a safety measure so that your foot does not get crushed when the
> > step retracts, if you are on the step. In reality it does not seem
> > necessary since it is impossible to shut the door while you are on
> the
> > step! The strip is black and yellow striped and at one end
> (right?)
> > are two wires. You can cut them and that may fix the problem. If
> not
> > you can look elsewhere, but I suspect this will solve the problem.
> I
> > learned this trick at a RIV a few years ago. One of the BB service
> > techs told me about it.
> >
> > Sid Breese
> > 85PT40
> > Maysville, MO
> >
>

[brad barton]

John,
I had to put a different switch on my Newell because of a new step installation.
And replacing the plunge switch in the door jamb with the newere magnetic switch
at the bottom was nice improvement. Only thing..it was stuck on with double
stick tape..came off..but I found it before it was too late and superglued it
back on. If you want the original BB air-actuated step, the magnetic quick-ee
switch may not work, I don't know. Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...


To: WanderlodgeForum@...: jehdds@...: Sun, 15 Jul
2007 22:18:53 +0000Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Entry Step




Thanks for the info however my problems are a little more basic. I don't have
much of anything under that step. No mechanism or valves.It appears that most
parts are missing so my question is more basic. I have what is an obvious switch
on the inside door jam and the steps them selves but I basically am going to
have to start over getting the air and electral components. Looks like a job for
the professionals. I just was wondering if this is all BB stuff or if other
coaches have similar? Don't think I am up to all that is involved with this one.
John Heckmancentral Pa 1973 FC>> John,> The diagrams and directions refer to a
"safaety tape." It is pressure > sensitive and under the door frame. It is
probaly shorted out. It is > is a safety measure so that your foot does not get
crushed when the > step retracts, if you are on the step. In reality it does not
seem > necessary since it is impossible to shut the door while you are on the >
step! The strip is black and yellow striped and at one end (right?) > are two
wires. You can cut them and that may fix the problem. If not > you can look
elsewhere, but I suspect this will solve the problem. I > learned this trick at
a RIV a few years ago. One of the BB service > techs told me about it.> > Sid
Breese> 85PT40> Maysville, MO>


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[bubblerboy64]

I've done a little looking around on line and there are replacement
steps made buy KwiKee and I am thinking about going that route. The
entire step really needs replaced and this would seem to me to be an
easier way to do it. They are 12 volt operated and they come with
everything needed. On the other hand what do I know??? But I will be
learnin'
John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC
>
>
> John,
> I had to put a different switch on my Newell because of a new step
installation.
> And replacing the plunge switch in the door jamb with the newere
magnetic switch
> at the bottom was nice improvement. Only thing..it was stuck on
with double stick tape..came off..but I found it before it was too
late and superglued it back on. If you want the original BB air-
actuated step, the magnetic quick-ee switch may not work, I don't
know. Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...
>
>
> To: WanderlodgeForum@...: jehdds@...: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:18:53
+0000Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Entry Step
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the info however my problems are a little more basic. I
don't have much of anything under that step. No mechanism or
valves.It appears that most parts are missing so my question is more
basic. I have what is an obvious switch on the inside door jam and
the steps them selves but I basically am going to have to start over
getting the air and electral components. Looks like a job for the
professionals. I just was wondering if this is all BB stuff or if
other coaches have similar? Don't think I am up to all that is
involved with this one. John Heckmancentral Pa 1973 FC>> John,> The
diagrams and directions refer to a "safaety tape." It is pressure >
sensitive and under the door frame. It is probaly shorted out. It is
> is a safety measure so that your foot does not get crushed when the
> step retracts, if you are on the step. In reality it does not seem
> necessary since it is impossible to shut the door while you are on
the > step! The strip is black and yellow striped and at one end
(right?) > are two wires. You can cut them and that may fix the
problem. If not > you can look elsewhere, but I suspect this will
solve the problem. I > learned this trick at a RIV a few years ago.
One of the BB service > techs told me about it.> > Sid Breese>
85PT40> Maysville, MO>
>
>
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[Chuck Wheeler]

John,



One thing I didn't look at was the step on the BB that Tom Eastman is
parting out. That might be an option if it wasn't damaged in the accident.



- Chuck Wheeler -

82 FC 31 SB

Fort Worth, TX

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To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Entry Step



I've done a little looking around on line and there are replacement
steps made buy KwiKee and I am thinking about going that route. The
entire step really needs replaced and this would seem to me to be an
easier way to do it. They are 12 volt operated and they come with
everything needed. On the other hand what do I know??? But I will be
learnin'
John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC
>
>
> John,
> I had to put a different switch on my Newell because of a new step
installation.
> And replacing the plunge switch in the door jamb with the newere
magnetic switch
> at the bottom was nice improvement. Only thing..it was stuck on
with double stick tape..came off..but I found it before it was too
late and superglued it back on. If you want the original BB air-
actuated step, the magnetic quick-ee switch may not work, I don't
know. Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...
>
>
> To: WanderlodgeForum@...: jehdds@...: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:18:53
+0000Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Entry Step
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for the info however my problems are a little more basic. I
don't have much of anything under that step. No mechanism or
valves.It appears that most parts are missing so my question is more
basic. I have what is an obvious switch on the inside door jam and
the steps them selves but I basically am going to have to start over
getting the air and electral components. Looks like a job for the
professionals. I just was wondering if this is all BB stuff or if
other coaches have similar? Don't think I am up to all that is
involved with this one. John Heckmancentral Pa 1973 FC>> John,> The
diagrams and directions refer to a "safaety tape." It is pressure >
sensitive and under the door frame. It is probaly shorted out. It is
> is a safety measure so that your foot does not get crushed when the
> step retracts, if you are on the step. In reality it does not seem
> necessary since it is impossible to shut the door while you are on
the > step! The strip is black and yellow striped and at one end
(right?) > are two wires. You can cut them and that may fix the
problem. If not > you can look elsewhere, but I suspect this will
solve the problem. I > learned this trick at a RIV a few years ago.
One of the BB service > techs told me about it.> > Sid Breese>
85PT40> Maysville, MO>
>
>
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[brad barton]

John,
I had excellent luck with my Kwikee step but it replaced a similar electric step
instead of air-operated as in BB's. I think the whole installation was about
500 dollars parts and labor.Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...


To: WanderlodgeForum@...: jehdds@...: Mon, 16 Jul
2007 19:00:38 +0000Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Entry Step




I've done a little looking around on line and there are replacement steps made
buy KwiKee and I am thinking about going that route. The entire step really
needs replaced and this would seem to me to be an easier way to do it. They are
12 volt operated and they come with everything needed. On the other hand what do
I know??? But I will be learnin'John Heckmancentral Pa 1973 FC >> > John, > I
had to put a different switch on my Newell because of a new step installation.>
And replacing the plunge switch in the door jamb with the newere magnetic switch
> at the bottom was nice improvement. Only thing..it was stuck on with double
stick tape..came off..but I found it before it was too late and superglued it
back on. If you want the original BB air-actuated step, the magnetic quick-ee
switch may not work, I don't know. Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...> > > To:
WanderlodgeForum@...: jehdds@...: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:18:53 +0000Subject:
[WanderlodgeForum] Re: Entry Step> > > > > Thanks for the info however my
problems are a little more basic. I don't have much of anything under that step.
No mechanism or valves.It appears that most parts are missing so my question is
more basic. I have what is an obvious switch on the inside door jam and the
steps them selves but I basically am going to have to start over getting the air
and electral components. Looks like a job for the professionals. I just was
wondering if this is all BB stuff or if other coaches have similar? Don't think
I am up to all that is involved with this one. John Heckmancentral Pa 1973 FC>>
John,> The diagrams and directions refer to a "safaety tape." It is pressure >
sensitive and under the door frame. It is probaly shorted out. It is > is a
safety measure so that your foot does not get crushed when the > step retracts,
if you are on the step. In reality it does not seem > necessary since it is
impossible to shut the door while you are on the > step! The strip is black and
yellow striped and at one end (right?) > are two wires. You can cut them and
that may fix the problem. If not > you can look elsewhere, but I suspect this
will solve the problem. I > learned this trick at a RIV a few years ago. One of
the BB service > techs told me about it.> > Sid Breese> 85PT40> Maysville, MO> >
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[Jon]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64"
wrote:
>
> I've done a little looking around on line and there are replacement
> steps made buy KwiKee and I am thinking about going that route. The
> entire step really needs replaced and this would seem to me to be
an
> easier way to do it. They are 12 volt operated and they come with
> everything needed. On the other hand what do I know??? But I will
be
> learnin'
> John Heckman
> central Pa
> 1973 FC
> >
> >
> > John,
> > I had to put a different switch on my Newell because of a new
step
> installation.
> > And replacing the plunge switch in the door jamb with the newere
> magnetic switch
> > at the bottom was nice improvement. Only thing..it was stuck on
> with double stick tape..came off..but I found it before it was too
> late and superglued it back on. If you want the original BB air-
> actuated step, the magnetic quick-ee switch may not work, I don't
> know. Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@
> >
> >
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@: jehdds@: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:18:53
> +0000Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Entry Step
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the info however my problems are a little more basic.
I
> don't have much of anything under that step. No mechanism or
> valves.It appears that most parts are missing so my question is
more
> basic. I have what is an obvious switch on the inside door jam and
> the steps them selves but I basically am going to have to start
over
> getting the air and electral components. Looks like a job for the
> professionals. I just was wondering if this is all BB stuff or if
> other coaches have similar? Don't think I am up to all that is
> involved with this one. John Heckmancentral Pa 1973 FC>> John,> The
> diagrams and directions refer to a "safaety tape." It is pressure >
> sensitive and under the door frame. It is probaly shorted out. It
is
> > is a safety measure so that your foot does not get crushed when
the
> > step retracts, if you are on the step. In reality it does not
seem
> > necessary since it is impossible to shut the door while you are
on
> the > step! The strip is black and yellow striped and at one end
> (right?) > are two wires. You can cut them and that may fix the
> problem. If not > you can look elsewhere, but I suspect this will
> solve the problem. I > learned this trick at a RIV a few years ago.
> One of the BB service > techs told me about it.> > Sid Breese>
> 85PT40> Maysville, MO>
> >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> >
>
Bubble Boy have you ever thought about going to an RV Salvage yard
to look for some used steps and operational gear? I was just
thinking about your problem and this could be a fair and reasonable
way to get your steps up and working. We have one large RV Recycling
yard that I know of up here in Washington and that one I think is in
Rochester. Well anyway just a thought as I know if your like me than
money doesn't grow on trees. Jon