Rally in our "own Valley

[randydupree]

hey paul! great time at maxton! thanks for coming! randydupree93wb
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From: p_a_lazar
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Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 10:02 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley


Ernie et al, AS much as I hate saying "me too", I'm saying Lyn & I are
me tooing to join this rowdy bunch at our own RIV.

Paul
97wb43




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[erniecarpet@...]

Sid, i don't believe we need a deposit- just pay when you get there. Save me
a spot- looks like this will be big! Ernie


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[erniecarpet@...]

George, You have made some valid observations. I believe the old Family of
Friends website was funded partially by Bluebird. Since that has gone by the
wayside, I am perplexed as to this increase of fees, myself.
We have 2 individuals from Blue-Bird.com that are current members of this
forum. It would be a nice gesture, if they could answer some of our questions.
Ernie-83PT40 in Texas


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[Michael Brody]

Ernie:

Please add us to the RIV (across the street)

Mike & Judi Brody
'97 BMC 40'

Michael Brody, CEO
Capital Progress, Inc.
P.O. Box 281
Dresher, PA 19025
capitalprogress.com
215-572-8668
(fax) 215-572-6992
Michael Brody, CEO
Capital Progress, Inc.
P.O. Box 281
Dresher, PA 19025
capitalprogress.com
215-572-8668
(fax) 215-572-6992

[Sidney Breese]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@a... wrote:
> I have just reserved the whole north side of Fair Harbor. I just sent
them an
> email so- I'll create a signup list in a couple of hours. Ernie- back
in the
> saddle, again
>
>
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Ernie,
I just added my name to the list. Am looking forward to it.
Thanks for making the arrangements. Do we need to send a deposit or
anything?
Sid Breese
85PT40
St. Joseph, MO

[George Lowry]

I don't know how many of the forum members are also members of the
FMCA Bluebird Chapter but I am beginning to have concerns. It appears
that the Chapter is allowing Bluebird to run things. Costs for all the
rallies are WAY out of line for what the costs are in other chapters.
It appears that Bluebird/ bluebird chapter is trying to price out the
lower income folks. Is it for snobs only?

We just has a rally in another chapter at Cal Expo, one of the better
parks around Sacramento ant the total cost for the largest, best site
including the meals only came to $80. True there was some volunteer
work. I am certain that Bluebirders aren't afraid to get their hands
dirty if necessary.

Last year I inquired as to why Bluebird was charging $250 for a three
day rally when FMCA international rallies are only $99. And the FMCA
rallies include three nights of name entertainment. The response was
the cost of meals. They said that they figured $25 per meal per
person. Now I have been living in a much higher cost of living area
(CA) and the last catered meal we had cost only $17 per person
including gratuity and tax, and included four kinds of meat, four
different kinds of beans, and other items including drinks. Everyone
had more food than they could eat.

On top of this, the Bluebird Chapter has decided to drastically
increase their dues this year. We have come to the decision that
Bluebird doesn't want us as members nor do they want us to upgrade to
a newer coach.

We currently belong to six different chapters. Bluebird has
consistently been the most expensive by a factor of 3 - 5. I was under
the impression that Bluebird was helping the Bluebird Chapter with
some of their expenses as an advertising expense. It more appears
that their old customers are being used as a method of added income to
feed corporate greed. Perhaps I have just been around organized
rallies for two long.

If there is anyone on the forum that is an officer of the Bluebird
Chapter, I would appreciate their input.

George Lowry
'95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
Spearfish, SD

[erniecarpet@...]

Sid, I talked with the owner of Fair harbor today. He mentioned that the time
of year that we wish to be there is a busy time. Really. So- the best thing
to do is to make your reservations early and then they will have a good idea of
the count. He wanted me to stay in touch with the numbers. He also mentioned
that they have expanded further north from where we were last year. This is
good, since it will give us more room. Ernie-83PT40 in texas- kinda ready to go
NOW!


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[erniecarpet@...]

Liz--- tell us what Brenda said-- we are all eyes!!! Ernie


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[randydupree]

as far as the BB chapter goes.nothing is happening that i can see,you get a
newsletter every 6 months,and they have the all birds reunion,that cost way more
than i want to pay.hell,i may as well belong to a foretravel group for all the
good it does me! i'm still a member of the family of friends,but,now that george
has brought this up,i wonder why?i guess because i own a bird? i'm rethinking
that whole deal,now! randydupree93wb in fl
----- Original Message -----
From: George Lowry
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley


I don't know how many of the forum members are also members of the
FMCA Bluebird Chapter but I am beginning to have concerns. It appears
that the Chapter is allowing Bluebird to run things. Costs for all the
rallies are WAY out of line for what the costs are in other chapters.
It appears that Bluebird/ bluebird chapter is trying to price out the
lower income folks. Is it for snobs only?

We just has a rally in another chapter at Cal Expo, one of the better
parks around Sacramento ant the total cost for the largest, best site
including the meals only came to $80. True there was some volunteer
work. I am certain that Bluebirders aren't afraid to get their hands
dirty if necessary.

Last year I inquired as to why Bluebird was charging $250 for a three
day rally when FMCA international rallies are only $99. And the FMCA
rallies include three nights of name entertainment. The response was
the cost of meals. They said that they figured $25 per meal per
person. Now I have been living in a much higher cost of living area
(CA) and the last catered meal we had cost only $17 per person
including gratuity and tax, and included four kinds of meat, four
different kinds of beans, and other items including drinks. Everyone
had more food than they could eat.

On top of this, the Bluebird Chapter has decided to drastically
increase their dues this year. We have come to the decision that
Bluebird doesn't want us as members nor do they want us to upgrade to
a newer coach.

We currently belong to six different chapters. Bluebird has
consistently been the most expensive by a factor of 3 - 5. I was under
the impression that Bluebird was helping the Bluebird Chapter with
some of their expenses as an advertising expense. It more appears
that their old customers are being used as a method of added income to
feed corporate greed. Perhaps I have just been around organized
rallies for two long.

If there is anyone on the forum that is an officer of the Bluebird
Chapter, I would appreciate their input.

George Lowry
'95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
Spearfish, SD




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[Mike Hohnstein]

Pretty simple, don't go where your aren't wanted. If 500 bucks tightens your
back side, the powers that be are getting the desired effect. I suspect it's
like that at Indio and other high end destinations. Some people like to hang
with peers of a like net worth level. Or something. Nothing wrong with bein'
trailer trash.
Mike Hohnstein
----- Original Message -----
From: George Lowry
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Rally in our "own Valley


I don't know how many of the forum members are also members of the
FMCA Bluebird Chapter but I am beginning to have concerns. It appears
that the Chapter is allowing Bluebird to run things. Costs for all the
rallies are WAY out of line for what the costs are in other chapters.
It appears that Bluebird/ bluebird chapter is trying to price out the
lower income folks. Is it for snobs only?

We just has a rally in another chapter at Cal Expo, one of the better
parks around Sacramento ant the total cost for the largest, best site
including the meals only came to $80. True there was some volunteer
work. I am certain that Bluebirders aren't afraid to get their hands
dirty if necessary.

Last year I inquired as to why Bluebird was charging $250 for a three
day rally when FMCA international rallies are only $99. And the FMCA
rallies include three nights of name entertainment. The response was
the cost of meals. They said that they figured $25 per meal per
person. Now I have been living in a much higher cost of living area
(CA) and the last catered meal we had cost only $17 per person
including gratuity and tax, and included four kinds of meat, four
different kinds of beans, and other items including drinks. Everyone
had more food than they could eat.

On top of this, the Bluebird Chapter has decided to drastically
increase their dues this year. We have come to the decision that
Bluebird doesn't want us as members nor do they want us to upgrade to
a newer coach.

We currently belong to six different chapters. Bluebird has
consistently been the most expensive by a factor of 3 - 5. I was under
the impression that Bluebird was helping the Bluebird Chapter with
some of their expenses as an advertising expense. It more appears
that their old customers are being used as a method of added income to
feed corporate greed. Perhaps I have just been around organized
rallies for two long.

If there is anyone on the forum that is an officer of the Bluebird
Chapter, I would appreciate their input.

George Lowry
'95 WBDA 4203 & GM 4106 (for sale)
Spearfish, SD




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