Battery Charger

[whynotam]

Thanks Rob,

Alvie

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
wrote:
>
> Alvie you could also talk to Greg OConnor who I believe has
recently put in
> L16 batteries (floor polisher, electric forklift batteries) and a
new
> Xanatrex system. Greg and Curt are pretty knowledgeable guys
>
> On 01/10/2007, whynotam wrote:
> >
> > Curt,
> >
> > Help.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alvie Miller
> > Arthur IL
> > 93 WLWB 40'
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Rob Robinson"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > First off you might want to contact Curt Sprenger as I believe
he
> > has done
> > > some of this work. I believe you need two chargers to reduce the
> > time it
> > > takes to put a charge into 8 batteries. I have eight 6V golf
carts
> > for the
> > > house and the more chargers the better. It isn't redundancy like
> > the two
> > > water pumps
> > >
> > > On 01/10/2007, whynotam wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I will check to see what model inverter I have tonight after
> > work to
> > > > see if it might have some resale value. Would installation
> > > > instructions that come with a new unit be adequate for an
> > > > electrically challenged person to do the install? Also I am
not
> > quite
> > > > clear on why two chargers are required instead of just one
like I
> > > > have now. Is it for redundancy?
> > > >
> > > > Alvie Miller
> > > > Arthur IL
> > > > 1993 WLWB 40'
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Alvie, Pete's suggestion for an upgrade to an
inverter/charger
> > > > combination
> > > > > is certainly worth considering. If you could get anything
for
> > your
> > > > existing
> > > > > inverter it would make the $$$ numbers better.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 01/10/2007, Pete Masterson wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've heard good reports about the Xantrex 40+ three-stage
> > > > charger. See:
> > > > > > <http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/69/p/1/pt/7/product.asp>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or, you may want to upgrade both your charger and inverter
> > with a
> > > > new
> > > > > > inverter-charger.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pete Masterson
> > > > > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > > > > El Sobrante CA
> > > > > > aeonix1@
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Oct 1, 2007, at 9:35 AM, whynotam wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I went out to the coach yesterday to check the fridge
and
> > > > noticed the
> > > > > > > gas alarm was beeping. Long story short, the battery
charger
> > > > had gone
> > > > > > > south and thus the house bateries were down to almost
zip.
> > Any
> > > > > > > suggestions on what charger to buy? I have 8 deep cycle
12
> > volt
> > > > house
> > > > > > > batteries as well as the standard 3 starting batteries.
> > Thanks
> > > > for
> > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > assistance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > > 94 WLWB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > 94 WLWB
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Curt Sprenger]

Alvie,

I haven't been following this thread other than I recall a posting saying
your charging system went south.Give me some details and I'll try to take a
look at the options you can take. What charging system is in the coach now?
How many? What capacitie(s)? Were you happy with what's there now up until
the failure? How many batteries did the failed unit(s) charge? Batteries 6
or 12 volt?

On 10/1/07, whynotam wrote:
>
> Curt,
>
> Help.
>
> Thanks,
> Alvie Miller
> Arthur IL
> 93 WLWB 40'
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> "Rob Robinson"
> wrote:
> >
> > First off you might want to contact Curt Sprenger as I believe he
> has done
> > some of this work. I believe you need two chargers to reduce the
> time it
> > takes to put a charge into 8 batteries. I have eight 6V golf carts
> for the
> > house and the more chargers the better. It isn't redundancy like
> the two
> > water pumps
> >
> > On 01/10/2007, whynotam wrote:
> > >
> > > I will check to see what model inverter I have tonight after
> work to
> > > see if it might have some resale value. Would installation
> > > instructions that come with a new unit be adequate for an
> > > electrically challenged person to do the install? Also I am not
> quite
> > > clear on why two chargers are required instead of just one like I
> > > have now. Is it for redundancy?
> > >
> > > Alvie Miller
> > > Arthur IL
> > > 1993 WLWB 40'
> > >
> > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Alvie, Pete's suggestion for an upgrade to an inverter/charger
> > > combination
> > > > is certainly worth considering. If you could get anything for
> your
> > > existing
> > > > inverter it would make the $$$ numbers better.
> > > >
> > > > On 01/10/2007, Pete Masterson wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I've heard good reports about the Xantrex 40+ three-stage
> > > charger. See:
> > > > > <http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/69/p/1/pt/7/product.asp>
> > > > >
> > > > > Or, you may want to upgrade both your charger and inverter
> with a
> > > new
> > > > > inverter-charger.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pete Masterson
> > > > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > > > El Sobrante CA
> > > > > aeonix1@
> > > > >
> > > > > On Oct 1, 2007, at 9:35 AM, whynotam wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I went out to the coach yesterday to check the fridge and
> > > noticed the
> > > > > > gas alarm was beeping. Long story short, the battery charger
> > > had gone
> > > > > > south and thus the house bateries were down to almost zip.
> Any
> > > > > > suggestions on what charger to buy? I have 8 deep cycle 12
> volt
> > > house
> > > > > > batteries as well as the standard 3 starting batteries.
> Thanks
> > > for
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > assistance.
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > 94 WLWB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > 94 WLWB
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>



--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[whynotam]

There was a single charger and I am not sure of the capacity but will
look it up tonight and let you know.

"I went out to the coach yesterday to check the fridge and noticed the
gas alarm was beeping. Long story short, the battery charger had gone
south and thus the house bateries were down to almost zip. Any
suggestions on what charger to buy? I have 8 deep cycle 12 volt house
batteries as well as the standard 3 starting batteries."

Alvie Miller
93 WLWB 40'

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
wrote:
>
> Alvie,
>
> I haven't been following this thread other than I recall a posting
saying
> your charging system went south.Give me some details and I'll try
to take a
> look at the options you can take. What charging system is in the
coach now?
> How many? What capacitie(s)? Were you happy with what's there now
up until
> the failure? How many batteries did the failed unit(s) charge?
Batteries 6
> or 12 volt?
>
> On 10/1/07, whynotam wrote:
> >
> > Curt,
> >
> > Help.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alvie Miller
> > Arthur IL
> > 93 WLWB 40'
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Rob Robinson"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > First off you might want to contact Curt Sprenger as I believe
he
> > has done
> > > some of this work. I believe you need two chargers to reduce the
> > time it
> > > takes to put a charge into 8 batteries. I have eight 6V golf
carts
> > for the
> > > house and the more chargers the better. It isn't redundancy like
> > the two
> > > water pumps
> > >
> > > On 01/10/2007, whynotam wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I will check to see what model inverter I have tonight after
> > work to
> > > > see if it might have some resale value. Would installation
> > > > instructions that come with a new unit be adequate for an
> > > > electrically challenged person to do the install? Also I am
not
> > quite
> > > > clear on why two chargers are required instead of just one
like I
> > > > have now. Is it for redundancy?
> > > >
> > > > Alvie Miller
> > > > Arthur IL
> > > > 1993 WLWB 40'
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Alvie, Pete's suggestion for an upgrade to an
inverter/charger
> > > > combination
> > > > > is certainly worth considering. If you could get anything
for
> > your
> > > > existing
> > > > > inverter it would make the $$$ numbers better.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 01/10/2007, Pete Masterson wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've heard good reports about the Xantrex 40+ three-stage
> > > > charger. See:
> > > > > > <http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/69/p/1/pt/7/product.asp>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Or, you may want to upgrade both your charger and inverter
> > with a
> > > > new
> > > > > > inverter-charger.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pete Masterson
> > > > > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > > > > El Sobrante CA
> > > > > > aeonix1@
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Oct 1, 2007, at 9:35 AM, whynotam wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I went out to the coach yesterday to check the fridge
and
> > > > noticed the
> > > > > > > gas alarm was beeping. Long story short, the battery
charger
> > > > had gone
> > > > > > > south and thus the house bateries were down to almost
zip.
> > Any
> > > > > > > suggestions on what charger to buy? I have 8 deep cycle
12
> > volt
> > > > house
> > > > > > > batteries as well as the standard 3 starting batteries.
> > Thanks
> > > > for
> > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > assistance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > > 94 WLWB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > 94 WLWB
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Curt Sprenger
> 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> Anaheim Hills, CA
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Pete Masterson]

Generally, it's better to split the batteries into 2 "banks" for
charging efficiency.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
El Sobrante CA
aeonix1@...



On Oct 1, 2007, at 12:12 PM, whynotam wrote:

> I will check to see what model inverter I have tonight after work to
> see if it might have some resale value. Would installation
> instructions that come with a new unit be adequate for an
> electrically challenged person to do the install? Also I am not quite
> clear on why two chargers are required instead of just one like I
> have now. Is it for redundancy?



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mbrund]

My '92 had twin IOTA 45-AMP chargers from the factory.

I am about to rip both my IOTA's out and Inverter and replace with a
single Xantrex Inverter/Charger. I came to the conclusion that for
the price of two chargers, it was the best option. Plus I get the
latest Inverter technology with it.

Be aware the BB inverter circuit is setup a little differently than
other coachs I have owned. You can see a thread on the other Yahoo
Wanderlodge forum that discusses the BB Inverter electrical system
setup.

Michael Brundridge
'92 WB40
Georgetown, TX



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "whynotam"
wrote:
>
> There was a single charger and I am not sure of the capacity but
will
> look it up tonight and let you know.
>
> "I went out to the coach yesterday to check the fridge and noticed
the
> gas alarm was beeping. Long story short, the battery charger had
gone
> south and thus the house bateries were down to almost zip. Any
> suggestions on what charger to buy? I have 8 deep cycle 12 volt
house
> batteries as well as the standard 3 starting batteries."
>
> Alvie Miller
> 93 WLWB 40'
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
> wrote:
> >
> > Alvie,
> >
> > I haven't been following this thread other than I recall a
posting
> saying
> > your charging system went south.Give me some details and I'll
try
> to take a
> > look at the options you can take. What charging system is in the
> coach now?
> > How many? What capacitie(s)? Were you happy with what's there
now
> up until
> > the failure? How many batteries did the failed unit(s) charge?
> Batteries 6
> > or 12 volt?
> >
> > On 10/1/07, whynotam wrote:
> > >
> > > Curt,
> > >
> > > Help.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Alvie Miller
> > > Arthur IL
> > > 93 WLWB 40'
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > First off you might want to contact Curt Sprenger as I
believe
> he
> > > has done
> > > > some of this work. I believe you need two chargers to reduce
the
> > > time it
> > > > takes to put a charge into 8 batteries. I have eight 6V golf
> carts
> > > for the
> > > > house and the more chargers the better. It isn't redundancy
like
> > > the two
> > > > water pumps
> > > >
> > > > On 01/10/2007, whynotam wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I will check to see what model inverter I have tonight
after
> > > work to
> > > > > see if it might have some resale value. Would installation
> > > > > instructions that come with a new unit be adequate for an
> > > > > electrically challenged person to do the install? Also I
am
> not
> > > quite
> > > > > clear on why two chargers are required instead of just one
> like I
> > > > > have now. Is it for redundancy?
> > > > >
> > > > > Alvie Miller
> > > > > Arthur IL
> > > > > 1993 WLWB 40'
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alvie, Pete's suggestion for an upgrade to an
> inverter/charger
> > > > > combination
> > > > > > is certainly worth considering. If you could get
anything
> for
> > > your
> > > > > existing
> > > > > > inverter it would make the $$$ numbers better.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 01/10/2007, Pete Masterson wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've heard good reports about the Xantrex 40+ three-
stage
> > > > > charger. See:
> > > > > > > <http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/69/p/1/pt/7/product.asp>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Or, you may want to upgrade both your charger and
inverter
> > > with a
> > > > > new
> > > > > > > inverter-charger.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pete Masterson
> > > > > > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > > > > > El Sobrante CA
> > > > > > > aeonix1@
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Oct 1, 2007, at 9:35 AM, whynotam wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I went out to the coach yesterday to check the
fridge
> and
> > > > > noticed the
> > > > > > > > gas alarm was beeping. Long story short, the battery
> charger
> > > > > had gone
> > > > > > > > south and thus the house bateries were down to
almost
> zip.
> > > Any
> > > > > > > > suggestions on what charger to buy? I have 8 deep
cycle
> 12
> > > volt
> > > > > house
> > > > > > > > batteries as well as the standard 3 starting
batteries.
> > > Thanks
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > assistance.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > > > 94 WLWB
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > 94 WLWB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Curt Sprenger
> > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > Anaheim Hills, CA
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

[whynotam]

The current charger that has failed is a WFCO model WF-8875 which is
a 75 Amp unit and the inverter is a Heart EMS 2800 Model HD2800-12.

Alvie Miller
Arthur IL
93 WLWB 40'


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbrund" <mbrund@...> wrote:
>
> My '92 had twin IOTA 45-AMP chargers from the factory.
>
> I am about to rip both my IOTA's out and Inverter and replace with
a
> single Xantrex Inverter/Charger. I came to the conclusion that for
> the price of two chargers, it was the best option. Plus I get the
> latest Inverter technology with it.
>
> Be aware the BB inverter circuit is setup a little differently than
> other coachs I have owned. You can see a thread on the other
Yahoo
> Wanderlodge forum that discusses the BB Inverter electrical system
> setup.
>
> Michael Brundridge
> '92 WB40
> Georgetown, TX
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "whynotam"
> wrote:
> >
> > There was a single charger and I am not sure of the capacity but
> will
> > look it up tonight and let you know.
> >
> > "I went out to the coach yesterday to check the fridge and
noticed
> the
> > gas alarm was beeping. Long story short, the battery charger had
> gone
> > south and thus the house bateries were down to almost zip. Any
> > suggestions on what charger to buy? I have 8 deep cycle 12 volt
> house
> > batteries as well as the standard 3 starting batteries."
> >
> > Alvie Miller
> > 93 WLWB 40'
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Alvie,
> > >
> > > I haven't been following this thread other than I recall a
> posting
> > saying
> > > your charging system went south.Give me some details and I'll
> try
> > to take a
> > > look at the options you can take. What charging system is in
the
> > coach now?
> > > How many? What capacitie(s)? Were you happy with what's there
> now
> > up until
> > > the failure? How many batteries did the failed unit(s) charge?
> > Batteries 6
> > > or 12 volt?
> > >
> > > On 10/1/07, whynotam wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Curt,
> > > >
> > > > Help.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Alvie Miller
> > > > Arthur IL
> > > > 93 WLWB 40'
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > First off you might want to contact Curt Sprenger as I
> believe
> > he
> > > > has done
> > > > > some of this work. I believe you need two chargers to
reduce
> the
> > > > time it
> > > > > takes to put a charge into 8 batteries. I have eight 6V
golf
> > carts
> > > > for the
> > > > > house and the more chargers the better. It isn't redundancy
> like
> > > > the two
> > > > > water pumps
> > > > >
> > > > > On 01/10/2007, whynotam wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will check to see what model inverter I have tonight
> after
> > > > work to
> > > > > > see if it might have some resale value. Would installation
> > > > > > instructions that come with a new unit be adequate for an
> > > > > > electrically challenged person to do the install? Also I
> am
> > not
> > > > quite
> > > > > > clear on why two chargers are required instead of just
one
> > like I
> > > > > > have now. Is it for redundancy?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alvie Miller
> > > > > > Arthur IL
> > > > > > 1993 WLWB 40'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alvie, Pete's suggestion for an upgrade to an
> > inverter/charger
> > > > > > combination
> > > > > > > is certainly worth considering. If you could get
> anything
> > for
> > > > your
> > > > > > existing
> > > > > > > inverter it would make the $$$ numbers better.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 01/10/2007, Pete Masterson wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've heard good reports about the Xantrex 40+ three-
> stage
> > > > > > charger. See:
> > > > > > > >
<http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/69/p/1/pt/7/product.asp>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Or, you may want to upgrade both your charger and
> inverter
> > > > with a
> > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > inverter-charger.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pete Masterson
> > > > > > > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > > > > > > El Sobrante CA
> > > > > > > > aeonix1@
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Oct 1, 2007, at 9:35 AM, whynotam wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I went out to the coach yesterday to check the
> fridge
> > and
> > > > > > noticed the
> > > > > > > > > gas alarm was beeping. Long story short, the
battery
> > charger
> > > > > > had gone
> > > > > > > > > south and thus the house bateries were down to
> almost
> > zip.
> > > > Any
> > > > > > > > > suggestions on what charger to buy? I have 8 deep
> cycle
> > 12
> > > > volt
> > > > > > house
> > > > > > > > > batteries as well as the standard 3 starting
> batteries.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > assistance.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > > > > 94 WLWB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > > 94 WLWB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Curt Sprenger
> > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

[Curt Sprenger]

Alvie,

If the inverter is working I would not replace it.

Check out "Hot Deals" from Progressive Dynamics.

http://www.progressivedyn.com/hotdeals.html

Unit PD9280R is an 80 amp converter/charger and costs $213.00. The hot
deals are reconditioned units. Actually I think they are new. I bought
two of their reconditioned units a couple years ago to replace the two
original battery boilers. They are still doing their job today.
Progressive has a good reputation in the industry.





On 10/2/07, whynotam wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The current charger that has failed is a WFCO model WF-8875 which is
> a 75 Amp unit and the inverter is a Heart EMS 2800 Model HD2800-12.
>
> Alvie Miller
> Arthur IL
> 93 WLWB 40'
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbrund" <mbrund@...> wrote:
> >
> > My '92 had twin IOTA 45-AMP chargers from the factory.
> >
> > I am about to rip both my IOTA's out and Inverter and replace with
> a
> > single Xantrex Inverter/Charger. I came to the conclusion that for
> > the price of two chargers, it was the best option. Plus I get the
> > latest Inverter technology with it.
> >
> > Be aware the BB inverter circuit is setup a little differently than
> > other coachs I have owned. You can see a thread on the other
> Yahoo
> > Wanderlodge forum that discusses the BB Inverter electrical system
> > setup.
> >
> > Michael Brundridge
> > '92 WB40
> > Georgetown, TX
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "whynotam"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > There was a single charger and I am not sure of the capacity but
> > will
> > > look it up tonight and let you know.
> > >
> > > "I went out to the coach yesterday to check the fridge and
> noticed
> > the
> > > gas alarm was beeping. Long story short, the battery charger had
> > gone
> > > south and thus the house bateries were down to almost zip. Any
> > > suggestions on what charger to buy? I have 8 deep cycle 12 volt
> > house
> > > batteries as well as the standard 3 starting batteries."
> > >
> > > Alvie Miller
> > > 93 WLWB 40'
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Alvie,
> > > >
> > > > I haven't been following this thread other than I recall a
> > posting
> > > saying
> > > > your charging system went south.Give me some details and I'll
> > try
> > > to take a
> > > > look at the options you can take. What charging system is in
> the
> > > coach now?
> > > > How many? What capacitie(s)? Were you happy with what's there
> > now
> > > up until
> > > > the failure? How many batteries did the failed unit(s) charge?
> > > Batteries 6
> > > > or 12 volt?
> > > >
> > > > On 10/1/07, whynotam wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Curt,
> > > > >
> > > > > Help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Alvie Miller
> > > > > Arthur IL
> > > > > 93 WLWB 40'
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First off you might want to contact Curt Sprenger as I
> > believe
> > > he
> > > > > has done
> > > > > > some of this work. I believe you need two chargers to
> reduce
> > the
> > > > > time it
> > > > > > takes to put a charge into 8 batteries. I have eight 6V
> golf
> > > carts
> > > > > for the
> > > > > > house and the more chargers the better. It isn't redundancy
> > like
> > > > > the two
> > > > > > water pumps
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 01/10/2007, whynotam wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will check to see what model inverter I have tonight
> > after
> > > > > work to
> > > > > > > see if it might have some resale value. Would installation
> > > > > > > instructions that come with a new unit be adequate for an
> > > > > > > electrically challenged person to do the install? Also I
> > am
> > > not
> > > > > quite
> > > > > > > clear on why two chargers are required instead of just
> one
> > > like I
> > > > > > > have now. Is it for redundancy?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alvie Miller
> > > > > > > Arthur IL
> > > > > > > 1993 WLWB 40'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alvie, Pete's suggestion for an upgrade to an
> > > inverter/charger
> > > > > > > combination
> > > > > > > > is certainly worth considering. If you could get
> > anything
> > > for
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > existing
> > > > > > > > inverter it would make the $$$ numbers better.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 01/10/2007, Pete Masterson wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've heard good reports about the Xantrex 40+ three-
> > stage
> > > > > > > charger. See:
> > > > > > > > >
> <http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/69/p/1/pt/7/product.asp>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Or, you may want to upgrade both your charger and
> > inverter
> > > > > with a
> > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > inverter-charger.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Pete Masterson
> > > > > > > > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > > > > > > > El Sobrante CA
> > > > > > > > > aeonix1@
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Oct 1, 2007, at 9:35 AM, whynotam wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I went out to the coach yesterday to check the
> > fridge
> > > and
> > > > > > > noticed the
> > > > > > > > > > gas alarm was beeping. Long story short, the
> battery
> > > charger
> > > > > > > had gone
> > > > > > > > > > south and thus the house bateries were down to
> > almost
> > > zip.
> > > > > Any
> > > > > > > > > > suggestions on what charger to buy? I have 8 deep
> > cycle
> > > 12
> > > > > volt
> > > > > > > house
> > > > > > > > > > batteries as well as the standard 3 starting
> > batteries.
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > assistance.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > > > > > 94 WLWB
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > > > 94 WLWB
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>



--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA

[Gregory OConnor]

Alvie, you have the same set up I do. the heart inverter has a
battery charger built into it and the PO (previous owner) added two
Truecharge 40amp chargers. the Truecharge units claim they deliver 80
amps of value because of the way the unit delivers it. but who knows
what the truth is. If the converter ( batteryCharger) burnt out in
the heart inverter and your PO installed the WFco unit, maybe there
is an issue with circuitry or somthing that has now failed two
units. My two retrofit Truecharge units are located in the third bay
back from the entry door. it looks as it took some effort to install
them there, I assumed it was placed there to keep it away from the
engine heat which is close to the inverter/converter location????????

After replacing 12 interstate 12v batteries in two years I removed
all 8 house batteries , removed the upper tray and modified the box
and lower tray to house 6 L16 batteries. I think two or four l16
would do as the runtime to recharge a battery is directly
proportional to the amount of use. I can run on the 6 batteries for
3 days then recharge with 6 hours of genset charging. or I could run
on 2 batteries for one day with two hours of genset charging. The
main advantage of having 6 batteries is if I run the genset 2 hours
every day the batteries dont cycle through a spent recharge.
(Batteries have a limited number of depleted recharge cycles.)

I would look for the reason the wfco converter and or heart
converter failed prior to installing another . The failed
converter/charge must be a result of some issue???? I often wanted
to look into a post that claimed that their detroit alt got hot when
the shore power charger was on????? I wonder if the Converter/charger
gets hot when the detroit is pumping amps????????? It seems to me
that RV's have a higher than normal engine altinator failure and 110
batterycharger failure.


GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "whynotam"
wrote:
>
> The current charger that has failed is a WFCO model WF-8875 which
is
> a 75 Amp unit and the inverter is a Heart EMS 2800 Model HD2800-12.
>
> Alvie Miller
> Arthur IL
> 93 WLWB 40'
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbrund" <mbrund@> wrote:
> >
> > My '92 had twin IOTA 45-AMP chargers from the factory.
> >
> > I am about to rip both my IOTA's out and Inverter and replace
with
> a
> > single Xantrex Inverter/Charger. I came to the conclusion that
for
> > the price of two chargers, it was the best option. Plus I get the
> > latest Inverter technology with it.
> >
> > Be aware the BB inverter circuit is setup a little differently
than
> > other coachs I have owned. You can see a thread on the other
> Yahoo
> > Wanderlodge forum that discusses the BB Inverter electrical
system
> > setup.
> >
> > Michael Brundridge
> > '92 WB40
> > Georgetown, TX
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "whynotam"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > There was a single charger and I am not sure of the capacity
but
> > will
> > > look it up tonight and let you know.
> > >
> > > "I went out to the coach yesterday to check the fridge and
> noticed
> > the
> > > gas alarm was beeping. Long story short, the battery charger
had
> > gone
> > > south and thus the house bateries were down to almost zip. Any
> > > suggestions on what charger to buy? I have 8 deep cycle 12 volt
> > house
> > > batteries as well as the standard 3 starting batteries."
> > >
> > > Alvie Miller
> > > 93 WLWB 40'
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Alvie,
> > > >
> > > > I haven't been following this thread other than I recall a
> > posting
> > > saying
> > > > your charging system went south.Give me some details and I'll
> > try
> > > to take a
> > > > look at the options you can take. What charging system is in
> the
> > > coach now?
> > > > How many? What capacitie(s)? Were you happy with what's there
> > now
> > > up until
> > > > the failure? How many batteries did the failed unit(s)
charge?
> > > Batteries 6
> > > > or 12 volt?
> > > >
> > > > On 10/1/07, whynotam wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Curt,
> > > > >
> > > > > Help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Alvie Miller
> > > > > Arthur IL
> > > > > 93 WLWB 40'
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First off you might want to contact Curt Sprenger as I
> > believe
> > > he
> > > > > has done
> > > > > > some of this work. I believe you need two chargers to
> reduce
> > the
> > > > > time it
> > > > > > takes to put a charge into 8 batteries. I have eight 6V
> golf
> > > carts
> > > > > for the
> > > > > > house and the more chargers the better. It isn't
redundancy
> > like
> > > > > the two
> > > > > > water pumps
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 01/10/2007, whynotam wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will check to see what model inverter I have tonight
> > after
> > > > > work to
> > > > > > > see if it might have some resale value. Would
installation
> > > > > > > instructions that come with a new unit be adequate for
an
> > > > > > > electrically challenged person to do the install? Also
I
> > am
> > > not
> > > > > quite
> > > > > > > clear on why two chargers are required instead of just
> one
> > > like I
> > > > > > > have now. Is it for redundancy?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alvie Miller
> > > > > > > Arthur IL
> > > > > > > 1993 WLWB 40'
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alvie, Pete's suggestion for an upgrade to an
> > > inverter/charger
> > > > > > > combination
> > > > > > > > is certainly worth considering. If you could get
> > anything
> > > for
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > existing
> > > > > > > > inverter it would make the $$$ numbers better.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 01/10/2007, Pete Masterson wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've heard good reports about the Xantrex 40+ three-
> > stage
> > > > > > > charger. See:
> > > > > > > > >
> <http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/69/p/1/pt/7/product.asp>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Or, you may want to upgrade both your charger and
> > inverter
> > > > > with a
> > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > inverter-charger.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Pete Masterson
> > > > > > > > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > > > > > > > El Sobrante CA
> > > > > > > > > aeonix1@
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Oct 1, 2007, at 9:35 AM, whynotam wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I went out to the coach yesterday to check the
> > fridge
> > > and
> > > > > > > noticed the
> > > > > > > > > > gas alarm was beeping. Long story short, the
> battery
> > > charger
> > > > > > > had gone
> > > > > > > > > > south and thus the house bateries were down to
> > almost
> > > zip.
> > > > > Any
> > > > > > > > > > suggestions on what charger to buy? I have 8 deep
> > cycle
> > > 12
> > > > > volt
> > > > > > > house
> > > > > > > > > > batteries as well as the standard 3 starting
> > batteries.
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > assistance.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
removed]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > > > > > 94 WLWB
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > > > 94 WLWB
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > Anaheim Hills, CA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[whynotam]

Greg,


Thanks for the response. I in fact do not know whether the Heart
battery charger works or not as the WFCO converter/charger was
installed at the time I purchased the coach. Is there a simple way to
determine whether the Heart charger does in fact work? The inverter
part of it seems to be fine. I hope to have time this evening to pull
the WFCO and the Heart from the compartment above the battery trays
to see if I can figure it out but if you have any suggestions that
might simplify the task I would sure appreciate them.


Thanks,

Alvie Miller
93 WLWB 40'
Arthur IL

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> Alvie, you have the same set up I do. the heart inverter has a
> battery charger built into it and the PO (previous owner) added two
> Truecharge 40amp chargers. the Truecharge units claim they deliver
80
> amps of value because of the way the unit delivers it. but who
knows
> what the truth is. If the converter ( batteryCharger) burnt out in
> the heart inverter and your PO installed the WFco unit, maybe there
> is an issue with circuitry or somthing that has now failed two
> units. My two retrofit Truecharge units are located in the third
bay
> back from the entry door. it looks as it took some effort to
install
> them there, I assumed it was placed there to keep it away from the
> engine heat which is close to the inverter/converter
location????????
>
> After replacing 12 interstate 12v batteries in two years I removed
> all 8 house batteries , removed the upper tray and modified the box
> and lower tray to house 6 L16 batteries. I think two or four l16
> would do as the runtime to recharge a battery is directly
> proportional to the amount of use. I can run on the 6 batteries
for
> 3 days then recharge with 6 hours of genset charging. or I could
run
> on 2 batteries for one day with two hours of genset charging. The
> main advantage of having 6 batteries is if I run the genset 2 hours
> every day the batteries dont cycle through a spent recharge.
> (Batteries have a limited number of depleted recharge cycles.)
>
> I would look for the reason the wfco converter and or heart
> converter failed prior to installing another . The failed
> converter/charge must be a result of some issue???? I often wanted
> to look into a post that claimed that their detroit alt got hot
when
> the shore power charger was on????? I wonder if the
Converter/charger
> gets hot when the detroit is pumping amps????????? It seems to me
> that RV's have a higher than normal engine altinator failure and
110
> batterycharger failure.
>
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "whynotam"
> wrote:
> >
> > The current charger that has failed is a WFCO model WF-8875 which
> is
> > a 75 Amp unit and the inverter is a Heart EMS 2800 Model HD2800-
12.
> >
> > Alvie Miller
> > Arthur IL
> > 93 WLWB 40'
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbrund" <mbrund@> wrote:
> > >
> > > My '92 had twin IOTA 45-AMP chargers from the factory.
> > >
> > > I am about to rip both my IOTA's out and Inverter and replace
> with
> > a
> > > single Xantrex Inverter/Charger. I came to the conclusion that
> for
> > > the price of two chargers, it was the best option. Plus I get
the
> > > latest Inverter technology with it.
> > >
> > > Be aware the BB inverter circuit is setup a little differently
> than
> > > other coachs I have owned. You can see a thread on the other
> > Yahoo
> > > Wanderlodge forum that discusses the BB Inverter electrical
> system
> > > setup.
> > >
> > > Michael Brundridge
> > > '92 WB40
> > > Georgetown, TX
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "whynotam"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There was a single charger and I am not sure of the capacity
> but
> > > will
> > > > look it up tonight and let you know.
> > > >
> > > > "I went out to the coach yesterday to check the fridge and
> > noticed
> > > the
> > > > gas alarm was beeping. Long story short, the battery charger
> had
> > > gone
> > > > south and thus the house bateries were down to almost zip. Any
> > > > suggestions on what charger to buy? I have 8 deep cycle 12
volt
> > > house
> > > > batteries as well as the standard 3 starting batteries."
> > > >
> > > > Alvie Miller
> > > > 93 WLWB 40'
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Curt Sprenger"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Alvie,
> > > > >
> > > > > I haven't been following this thread other than I recall a
> > > posting
> > > > saying
> > > > > your charging system went south.Give me some details and
I'll
> > > try
> > > > to take a
> > > > > look at the options you can take. What charging system is
in
> > the
> > > > coach now?
> > > > > How many? What capacitie(s)? Were you happy with what's
there
> > > now
> > > > up until
> > > > > the failure? How many batteries did the failed unit(s)
> charge?
> > > > Batteries 6
> > > > > or 12 volt?
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/1/07, whynotam wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Curt,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Alvie Miller
> > > > > > Arthur IL
> > > > > > 93 WLWB 40'
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > First off you might want to contact Curt Sprenger as I
> > > believe
> > > > he
> > > > > > has done
> > > > > > > some of this work. I believe you need two chargers to
> > reduce
> > > the
> > > > > > time it
> > > > > > > takes to put a charge into 8 batteries. I have eight 6V
> > golf
> > > > carts
> > > > > > for the
> > > > > > > house and the more chargers the better. It isn't
> redundancy
> > > like
> > > > > > the two
> > > > > > > water pumps
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 01/10/2007, whynotam wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I will check to see what model inverter I have
tonight
> > > after
> > > > > > work to
> > > > > > > > see if it might have some resale value. Would
> installation
> > > > > > > > instructions that come with a new unit be adequate
for
> an
> > > > > > > > electrically challenged person to do the install?
Also
> I
> > > am
> > > > not
> > > > > > quite
> > > > > > > > clear on why two chargers are required instead of
just
> > one
> > > > like I
> > > > > > > > have now. Is it for redundancy?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Alvie Miller
> > > > > > > > Arthur IL
> > > > > > > > 1993 WLWB 40'
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > > > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Alvie, Pete's suggestion for an upgrade to an
> > > > inverter/charger
> > > > > > > > combination
> > > > > > > > > is certainly worth considering. If you could get
> > > anything
> > > > for
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > existing
> > > > > > > > > inverter it would make the $$$ numbers better.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 01/10/2007, Pete Masterson wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I've heard good reports about the Xantrex 40+
three-
> > > stage
> > > > > > > > charger. See:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > <http://www.xantrex.com/web/id/69/p/1/pt/7/product.asp>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Or, you may want to upgrade both your charger and
> > > inverter
> > > > > > with a
> > > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > inverter-charger.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Pete Masterson
> > > > > > > > > > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > > > > > > > > > El Sobrante CA
> > > > > > > > > > aeonix1@
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Oct 1, 2007, at 9:35 AM, whynotam wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I went out to the coach yesterday to check the
> > > fridge
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > noticed the
> > > > > > > > > > > gas alarm was beeping. Long story short, the
> > battery
> > > > charger
> > > > > > > > had gone
> > > > > > > > > > > south and thus the house bateries were down to
> > > almost
> > > > zip.
> > > > > > Any
> > > > > > > > > > > suggestions on what charger to buy? I have 8
deep
> > > cycle
> > > > 12
> > > > > > volt
> > > > > > > > house
> > > > > > > > > > > batteries as well as the standard 3 starting
> > > batteries.
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > assistance.
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > > > > > > 94 WLWB
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> > > > > Curt Sprenger
> > > > > 1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
> > > > > Anaheim Hills, CA
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