Need some advice

[Jon]

I have an 84 Subaru four wheel drive as my toad and its a wonderful
little car. But I have one problem and that is when I make a tight
slow right hand turn the steering stays in that position and will not
correct itself. By this I mean it will not come back to a neutral
position. This is kind of buggy as I really haft to watch out when I
do make this type of turn as the tires will just not correct themselves
and causing them to drag along turned. Is there any device I can use
to help correct this problem? Has anyone here else had that kind of
problem. Sure would like some answers on this baddddddd problem.

http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/1942...l%20Bird/?
action=view¤t=82Subaru008.jpg

Jipjob
Rebel Bird

[Rob Robinson]

Jon I'm relying on my old f#*t memory here but sometime back a few years ago
I heard that most any vehicle could be towed four down with the exception of
some Subaru's. It was something to do with the geometry of their steering.
Their caster I believe. I could be wrong on the Subaru but I'm sure the
problem was steering related. Also in the past some people, who wished a
more positive return to the steering wheel's neutral position, have
advocated the use of bungee cords to restrict the steering wheel travel and
input a force that will center the wheel more readily.

On 08/10/2007, Jon wrote:
>
> I have an 84 Subaru four wheel drive as my toad and its a wonderful
> little car. But I have one problem and that is when I make a tight
> slow right hand turn the steering stays in that position and will not
> correct itself. By this I mean it will not come back to a neutral
> position. This is kind of buggy as I really haft to watch out when I
> do make this type of turn as the tires will just not correct themselves
> and causing them to drag along turned. Is there any device I can use
> to help correct this problem? Has anyone here else had that kind of
> problem. Sure would like some answers on this baddddddd problem.
>
> http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/1942...l%20Bird/?
> action=view¤t=82Subaru008.jpg
>
> Jipjob
> Rebel Bird
>
>
>



--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


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[Rob Robinson]

Jon further to your problem I checked around Remco site
http://www.remcotowing.comand I couldn't find a towing product for Subaru
anywhere on the site. Give
them a call and ask them if they provide towing equipment for Subaru. If
they don't then maybe they can explain any problems that may exisit. Their
number is 1 (800) 228-2481

On 08/10/2007, Jon wrote:
>
> I have an 84 Subaru four wheel drive as my toad and its a wonderful
> little car. But I have one problem and that is when I make a tight
> slow right hand turn the steering stays in that position and will not
> correct itself. By this I mean it will not come back to a neutral
> position. This is kind of buggy as I really haft to watch out when I
> do make this type of turn as the tires will just not correct themselves
> and causing them to drag along turned. Is there any device I can use
> to help correct this problem? Has anyone here else had that kind of
> problem. Sure would like some answers on this baddddddd problem.
>
> http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/1942...l%20Bird/?
> action=view¤t=82Subaru008.jpg
>
> Jipjob
> Rebel Bird
>
>
>



--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


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[Mike Hohnstein]

The tow bar needs to be parallel with the ground, usually requires a drop hitch
ball for the bus.
MH
----- Original Message -----
From: Jon
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:48 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Need some advice


I have an 84 Subaru four wheel drive as my toad and its a wonderful
little car. But I have one problem and that is when I make a tight
slow right hand turn the steering stays in that position and will not
correct itself. By this I mean it will not come back to a neutral
position. This is kind of buggy as I really haft to watch out when I
do make this type of turn as the tires will just not correct themselves
and causing them to drag along turned. Is there any device I can use
to help correct this problem? Has anyone here else had that kind of
problem. Sure would like some answers on this baddddddd problem.

http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/1942...l%20Bird/?
action=view¤t=82Subaru008.jpg

Jipjob
Rebel Bird





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[Pete Masterson]

I've heard that some 'early' Sabarus have insufficient caster, so the
tires won't re-center. You might talk to a front-end shop and see if
there's anything that can be done.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Hurricane UT (Zion NP)



On Oct 8, 2007, at 8:48 PM, Jon wrote:

> I have an 84 Subaru four wheel drive as my toad and its a wonderful
> little car. But I have one problem and that is when I make a tight
> slow right hand turn the steering stays in that position and will not
> correct itself. By this I mean it will not come back to a neutral
> position. This is kind of buggy as I really haft to watch out when I
> do make this type of turn as the tires will just not correct
> themselves
> and causing them to drag along turned. Is there any device I can use
> to help correct this problem? Has anyone here else had that kind of
> problem. Sure would like some answers on this baddddddd problem.



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[Gregory OConnor]

I understood the 'parallel to the ground rule' was to keep inerta
force of the toad from pushing the ass of the motorhome farther up in
the air then the natural reaction of braking. It also keeps
acceleration from 'picking up' or 'pulling down' on the front end of
a toad at rest.

I have seen toads with bungie cords on the steering. I wonder if
there is a chance that the bungie force could get set off center and
the wheels will run untrue when your bus is center/true. Or if you
pass 180 degree on the steer-wheel, you cam past a return to
true/center?????

I would tie a rope that limits the turning of the steering wheel to
less than 180 deg.(or prior to the point a sharp right turn make a
recenter unatainable) At center/true the rope would be relaxed and
the caster reaction will have no opposing forces. but the tires would
skid on sharp turns if more than a 180degree steering wheel turn was
naturaly required.

Some times The best mod is a a ForSale sign.

GregoryO'Connor
94ptRomolandCa



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
<MHOHNSTEIN@...> wrote:
>
> The tow bar needs to be parallel with the ground, usually requires
a drop hitch ball for the bus.
> MH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jon
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:48 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Need some advice
>
>
> I have an 84 Subaru four wheel drive as my toad and its a
wonderful
> little car. But I have one problem and that is when I make a
tight
> slow right hand turn the steering stays in that position and will
not
> correct itself. By this I mean it will not come back to a neutral
> position. This is kind of buggy as I really haft to watch out
when I
> do make this type of turn as the tires will just not correct
themselves
> and causing them to drag along turned. Is there any device I can
use
> to help correct this problem? Has anyone here else had that kind
of
> problem. Sure would like some answers on this baddddddd problem.
>
> http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/1942...l%20Bird/?
> action=view¤t=82Subaru008.jpg
>
> Jipjob
> Rebel Bird
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Jon]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> I've heard that some 'early' Sabarus have insufficient caster, so
the
> tires won't re-center. You might talk to a front-end shop and see
if
> there's anything that can be done.
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Hurricane UT (Zion NP)
>
>
>
> On Oct 8, 2007, at 8:48 PM, Jon wrote:
>
> > I have an 84 Subaru four wheel drive as my toad and its a
wonderful
> > little car. But I have one problem and that is when I make a
tight
> > slow right hand turn the steering stays in that position and will
not
> > correct itself. By this I mean it will not come back to a neutral
> > position. This is kind of buggy as I really haft to watch out
when I
> > do make this type of turn as the tires will just not correct
> > themselves
> > and causing them to drag along turned. Is there any device I can
use
> > to help correct this problem? Has anyone here else had that kind
of
> > problem. Sure would like some answers on this baddddddd problem.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Well just my luck that when I called up a rep that sells front end
towing units that the subaru he stated is one that does has a problem
with tracking. Oh well 300 dollars out the window and now to find a
used car dolly. Jon

Jipjob
Rebel Bird

[Bob Lawrence]

Hi Jon,
Google steering stabilizers for your rig...see what pops up.

Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Tacoma, Wa.

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" wrote:
>
> I have an 84 Subaru four wheel drive as my toad and its a wonderful
> little car. But I have one problem and that is when I make a tight
> slow right hand turn the steering stays in that position and will not
> correct itself. By this I mean it will not come back to a neutral
> position. This is kind of buggy as I really haft to watch out when I
> do make this type of turn as the tires will just not correct
themselves
> and causing them to drag along turned. Is there any device I can use
> to help correct this problem? Has anyone here else had that kind of
> problem. Sure would like some answers on this baddddddd problem.
>
> http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/1942...l%20Bird/?
> action=view¤t=82Subaru008.jpg
>
> Jipjob
> Rebel Bird
>

[ronmarabito2002]

The vehicle is not properly aligned or you have a faulty part in the
steering.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jon" wrote:
>
> I have an 84 Subaru four wheel drive as my toad and its a wonderful
> little car. But I have one problem and that is when I make a tight
> slow right hand turn the steering stays in that position and will not
> correct itself. By this I mean it will not come back to a neutral
> position. This is kind of buggy as I really haft to watch out when I
> do make this type of turn as the tires will just not correct themselves
> and causing them to drag along turned. Is there any device I can use
> to help correct this problem? Has anyone here else had that kind of
> problem. Sure would like some answers on this baddddddd problem.
>
> http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/1942...l%20Bird/?
> action=view¤t=82Subaru008.jpg
>
> Jipjob
> Rebel Bird
>

[Gardner Yeaw]

My understanding of the angle of the tow bar relative to the toad
is that the toad end should be level or slightly lower (a couple of
inches). If the toad end is too low it will force the front end of
the toad down hard when breaking and stress the suspension and front
tires. If the toad end is higher, the front of the toad will rise up
and in extreme braking situations and the toad could vault into the
rear of the coach.

Gardner
78FC33


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> I understood the 'parallel to the ground rule' was to keep inerta
> force of the toad from pushing the ass of the motorhome farther up
in
> the air then the natural reaction of braking. It also keeps
> acceleration from 'picking up' or 'pulling down' on the front end
of
> a toad at rest.
>
> I have seen toads with bungie cords on the steering. I wonder if
> there is a chance that the bungie force could get set off center
and
> the wheels will run untrue when your bus is center/true. Or if you
> pass 180 degree on the steer-wheel, you cam past a return to
> true/center?????
>
> I would tie a rope that limits the turning of the steering wheel
to
> less than 180 deg.(or prior to the point a sharp right turn make a
> recenter unatainable) At center/true the rope would be relaxed and
> the caster reaction will have no opposing forces. but the tires
would
> skid on sharp turns if more than a 180degree steering wheel turn
was
> naturaly required.
>
> Some times The best mod is a a ForSale sign.
>
> GregoryO'Connor
> 94ptRomolandCa
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Hohnstein"
> <MHOHNSTEIN@> wrote:
> >
> > The tow bar needs to be parallel with the ground, usually
requires
> a drop hitch ball for the bus.
> > MH
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jon
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:48 PM
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Need some advice
> >
> >
> > I have an 84 Subaru four wheel drive as my toad and its a
> wonderful
> > little car. But I have one problem and that is when I make a
> tight
> > slow right hand turn the steering stays in that position and
will
> not
> > correct itself. By this I mean it will not come back to a
neutral
> > position. This is kind of buggy as I really haft to watch out
> when I
> > do make this type of turn as the tires will just not correct
> themselves
> > and causing them to drag along turned. Is there any device I
can
> use
> > to help correct this problem? Has anyone here else had that
kind
> of
> > problem. Sure would like some answers on this baddddddd
problem.
> >
> > http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/1942...l%20Bird/?
> > action=view¤t=82Subaru008.jpg
> >
> > Jipjob
> > Rebel Bird
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>