Wide body exhuast removal

[ronmarabito2002]

Hi all:

Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack in the
chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40.

I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the top of
the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at the
bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom of the
chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also, how
about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long extension on
the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning. It is
at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase.

All the elbows are rusted together where they join other pipes.
BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten in and
rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good.

I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed this
install.

Any suggestions?

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40

[Rob Robinson]

Ron the only guy that I know who has replaced this muffler is Randy. If I
have to do mine we're going to put in a straight pipe with no muffler
first to see how loud it is. With a turbo there is a chance that it won't be
too loud. I did this with a 94 Chev Turbo Diesel PU and it was throaty but
not obnoxious. We'll see I guess.

On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
>
> Hi all:
>
> Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack in the
> chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40.
>
> I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the top of
> the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at the
> bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom of the
> chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also, how
> about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long extension on
> the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning. It is
> at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase.
>
> All the elbows are rusted together where they join other pipes.
> BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten in and
> rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good.
>
> I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed this
> install.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40
>
>
>



--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[ronmarabito2002]

Thanks Rob. Frankly, I was thinking of the same thing, but my first
problem is getting the darn thing out of the hole. Randy has
responded and said that he and a friend pulled it out, but he hasn't
said how yet.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
wrote:
>
> Ron the only guy that I know who has replaced this muffler is Randy.
If I
> have to do mine we're going to put in a straight pipe with no muffler
> first to see how loud it is. With a turbo there is a chance that it
won't be
> too loud. I did this with a 94 Chev Turbo Diesel PU and it was
throaty but
> not obnoxious. We'll see I guess.
>
> On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >
> > Hi all:
> >
> > Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack in the
> > chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40.
> >
> > I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the top of
> > the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at the
> > bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom of the
> > chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also, how
> > about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long extension on
> > the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning. It is
> > at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase.
> >
> > All the elbows are rusted together where they join other pipes.
> > BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten in and
> > rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good.
> >
> > I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed this
> > install.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Rob Robinson]

I'm sure he'll elaborate on his removal. It would be very interesting if you
put in a temporary straight piece of pipe to see what it would sound like
without a muffler. I hope you do as this could be a major cost and possibly
labour saving DIY

On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
>
> Thanks Rob. Frankly, I was thinking of the same thing, but my first
> problem is getting the darn thing out of the hole. Randy has
> responded and said that he and a friend pulled it out, but he hasn't
> said how yet.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> "Rob Robinson"
> wrote:
> >
> > Ron the only guy that I know who has replaced this muffler is Randy.
> If I
> > have to do mine we're going to put in a straight pipe with no muffler
> > first to see how loud it is. With a turbo there is a chance that it
> won't be
> > too loud. I did this with a 94 Chev Turbo Diesel PU and it was
> throaty but
> > not obnoxious. We'll see I guess.
> >
> > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all:
> > >
> > > Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack in the
> > > chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40.
> > >
> > > I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the top of
> > > the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at the
> > > bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom of the
> > > chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also, how
> > > about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long extension on
> > > the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning. It is
> > > at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase.
> > >
> > > All the elbows are rusted together where they join other pipes.
> > > BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten in and
> > > rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good.
> > >
> > > I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed this
> > > install.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > 94 WLWB
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>



--
Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
94 WLWB


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[ronmarabito2002]

I just finished a conversation with Ralph Fullenwider. He did one on
Jack & Liz's coach. Needless to say, it was awful and it took both to
do it. They went back with a 5" muffler because the cost of the 6"
muffler was more alone than what all the 5" pieces cost with the muffler.

If a straight pipe isn't too expensive to try, I'll do it, otherwise
we'll see.

I wish I had someone close by that could give me a hand. I think it
will take two people to accomplish.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
wrote:
>
> I'm sure he'll elaborate on his removal. It would be very
interesting if you
> put in a temporary straight piece of pipe to see what it would sound
like
> without a muffler. I hope you do as this could be a major cost and
possibly
> labour saving DIY
>
> On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Rob. Frankly, I was thinking of the same thing, but my first
> > problem is getting the darn thing out of the hole. Randy has
> > responded and said that he and a friend pulled it out, but he hasn't
> > said how yet.
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com,
> > "Rob Robinson"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ron the only guy that I know who has replaced this muffler is Randy.
> > If I
> > > have to do mine we're going to put in a straight pipe with no
muffler
> > > first to see how loud it is. With a turbo there is a chance that it
> > won't be
> > > too loud. I did this with a 94 Chev Turbo Diesel PU and it was
> > throaty but
> > > not obnoxious. We'll see I guess.
> > >
> > > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all:
> > > >
> > > > Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack
in the
> > > > chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40.
> > > >
> > > > I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the top of
> > > > the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at the
> > > > bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom
of the
> > > > chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also, how
> > > > about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long
extension on
> > > > the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning.
It is
> > > > at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase.
> > > >
> > > > All the elbows are rusted together where they join other pipes.
> > > > BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten in and
> > > > rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good.
> > > >
> > > > I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed this
> > > > install.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > 94 WLWB
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Scott Forman]

I know we are talking about different coaches, but my 86 PT with 8v92
is currently running with no muffler, and I will be adding one. It
is loud enough to be a nuisance.

Scott Forman
86 PT38 that my neighbors hate listening to
Memphis

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
wrote:
>
> I'm sure he'll elaborate on his removal. It would be very
interesting if you
> put in a temporary straight piece of pipe to see what it would
sound like
> without a muffler. I hope you do as this could be a major cost and
possibly
> labour saving DIY
>
> On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Rob. Frankly, I was thinking of the same thing, but my
first
> > problem is getting the darn thing out of the hole. Randy has
> > responded and said that he and a friend pulled it out, but he
hasn't
> > said how yet.
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Rob Robinson"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ron the only guy that I know who has replaced this muffler is
Randy.
> > If I
> > > have to do mine we're going to put in a straight pipe with no
muffler
> > > first to see how loud it is. With a turbo there is a chance
that it
> > won't be
> > > too loud. I did this with a 94 Chev Turbo Diesel PU and it was
> > throaty but
> > > not obnoxious. We'll see I guess.
> > >
> > > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all:
> > > >
> > > > Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack
in the
> > > > chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40.
> > > >
> > > > I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the
top of
> > > > the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at
the
> > > > bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom
of the
> > > > chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also,
how
> > > > about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long
extension on
> > > > the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning.
It is
> > > > at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase.
> > > >
> > > > All the elbows are rusted together where they join other
pipes.
> > > > BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten
in and
> > > > rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good.
> > > >
> > > > I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed
this
> > > > install.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > 94 WLWB
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

[Pete Masterson]

I note that Colorado has a law that "exhaust brakes must have
mufflers" ... so that might be a factor depending on the type of
retarder you have.

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Golden Colorado



On Dec 5, 2007, at 7:13 PM, Scott Forman wrote:

> I know we are talking about different coaches, but my 86 PT with 8v92
> is currently running with no muffler, and I will be adding one. It
> is loud enough to be a nuisance.
>
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38 that my neighbors hate listening to
> Memphis

[Jon]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
wrote:
>
> I just finished a conversation with Ralph Fullenwider. He did one
on
> Jack & Liz's coach. Needless to say, it was awful and it took both
to
> do it. They went back with a 5" muffler because the cost of the 6"
> muffler was more alone than what all the 5" pieces cost with the
muffler.
>
> If a straight pipe isn't too expensive to try, I'll do it, otherwise
> we'll see.
>
> I wish I had someone close by that could give me a hand. I think it
> will take two people to accomplish.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm sure he'll elaborate on his removal. It would be very
> interesting if you
> > put in a temporary straight piece of pipe to see what it would
sound
> like
> > without a muffler. I hope you do as this could be a major cost and
> possibly
> > labour saving DIY
> >
> > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Rob. Frankly, I was thinking of the same thing, but my
first
> > > problem is getting the darn thing out of the hole. Randy has
> > > responded and said that he and a friend pulled it out, but he
hasn't
> > > said how yet.
> > >
> > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > >
> > > --- In
> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ron the only guy that I know who has replaced this muffler is
Randy.
> > > If I
> > > > have to do mine we're going to put in a straight pipe with no
> muffler
> > > > first to see how loud it is. With a turbo there is a chance
that it
> > > won't be
> > > > too loud. I did this with a 94 Chev Turbo Diesel PU and it was
> > > throaty but
> > > > not obnoxious. We'll see I guess.
> > > >
> > > > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all:
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack
> in the
> > > > > chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the
top of
> > > > > the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket
at the
> > > > > bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom
> of the
> > > > > chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts.
Also, how
> > > > > about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long
> extension on
> > > > > the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start
turning.
> It is
> > > > > at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase.
> > > > >
> > > > > All the elbows are rusted together where they join other
pipes.
> > > > > BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten
in and
> > > > > rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that
designed this
> > > > > install.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > 94 WLWB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > 94 WLWB
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
Is the muffler rusted out? On my FC the outlet pipe makes about a 45
degree bend up and over time a nice rusted hole opened up at this
location. To fix this problem I covered the rust out area with some
sheet metal and some fire resistant gasket material and covered the
rusted hole at that point. I used gasket material first and then
made a sheet metal cover to surround the pipe and then I used
stainless steel hose clamps to hold the patch in place. It really
did the trick for getting rid of that hole after the muffler and has
lasted so far two years. Oh yes I did clean up the area around the
rustout and primed it with a rust stopping paint.

Now I was wondering if your muffler could be repaired in this manner?
They certainly have material that you can rap around your muffler and
with a little bit of brain power you could put a sleeve around the
whole muffler or whatever area that giving you the problem.

Jon (Jipjob)
Rebel Bird

[Steve Pfiffner]

Ron,

I am in Dallas and would be happy to help for a tour of your coach

Steve Pfiffner
'61 Avion Tourist
'89 Airstream Excella
BB Wannabee


----Original Message----
From: remarabito@...
Date: 12/05/2007 20:13
To:
Subj: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Wide body exhuast removal

I just finished a conversation with Ralph Fullenwider. He did one on
Jack & Liz's coach. Needless to say, it was awful and it took both to
do it. They went back with a 5" muffler because the cost of the 6"
muffler was more alone than what all the 5" pieces cost with the
muffler.

If a straight pipe isn't too expensive to try, I'll do it, otherwise
we'll see.

I wish I had someone close by that could give me a hand. I think it
will take two people to accomplish.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

[ronmarabito2002]

Thanks Scott.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Forman" <sforman@...>
wrote:
>
> I know we are talking about different coaches, but my 86 PT with 8v92
> is currently running with no muffler, and I will be adding one. It
> is loud enough to be a nuisance.
>
> Scott Forman
> 86 PT38 that my neighbors hate listening to
> Memphis
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Robinson"
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm sure he'll elaborate on his removal. It would be very
> interesting if you
> > put in a temporary straight piece of pipe to see what it would
> sound like
> > without a muffler. I hope you do as this could be a major cost and
> possibly
> > labour saving DIY
> >
> > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Rob. Frankly, I was thinking of the same thing, but my
> first
> > > problem is getting the darn thing out of the hole. Randy has
> > > responded and said that he and a friend pulled it out, but he
> hasn't
> > > said how yet.
> > >
> > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "Rob Robinson"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ron the only guy that I know who has replaced this muffler is
> Randy.
> > > If I
> > > > have to do mine we're going to put in a straight pipe with no
> muffler
> > > > first to see how loud it is. With a turbo there is a chance
> that it
> > > won't be
> > > > too loud. I did this with a 94 Chev Turbo Diesel PU and it was
> > > throaty but
> > > > not obnoxious. We'll see I guess.
> > > >
> > > > On 05/12/2007, ronmarabito2002 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all:
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone done their own removal and reinstall of exhaust stack
> in the
> > > > > chase of a WB coach? I have a 92WB40.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have removed the top tip and the top bracket holding the
> top of
> > > > > the muffler to the chase. There is another similar bracket at
> the
> > > > > bottom of the muffler, which is about 16" up from the bottom
> of the
> > > > > chase. Anyone have any idea how to remove these bolts. Also,
> how
> > > > > about loosening the clamp on the pipe. I could use a long
> extension on
> > > > > the bottom, but what happens when the top nuts start turning.
> It is
> > > > > at least 4 feet down from the top of the chase.
> > > > >
> > > > > All the elbows are rusted together where they join other
> pipes.
> > > > > BB put the wrong kind of tip on top and the rain has gotten
> in and
> > > > > rusted everything. The muffler itself looks pretty good.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd love to have a conversation with the *#!*) that designed
> this
> > > > > install.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, tX 92WB40
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > > > 94 WLWB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rob, Sue & Merlin Robinson
> > 94 WLWB
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>