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02-29-2008, 14:01

George, do you need a headlight switch? I have a couple of new ones
from BB. Can check the part number for you if you have the number for
your switch?

Terry

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92TA

74FC34 6V53T











George Burke wrote:







My headlight switch has smoked its self. The connector went out

with 



it. BB doesn't carry the connector, found at NAPA, EC20, along with the





switch, a Delco, which some parts places say is prone to failure. I 



have found a wire that was in slot #3, (B/Y) that according to my BB 



schematic, is supposed to be in slot #7. Maybe that is why my dash 



lights won't dim, which was a previous problem. Also previously, I had 



to jiggle the rod to get the headlights to come on sometimes. I have 



had to do that once with the new switch. Has anyone had to deal with 



this problem. Would be appreciative of some insight, as I am worried 



that some other wire switching may have occured. I might add that on 



this bus, when I replaced the gen.hr. meter, someone had crossed the 



wires, putting the previous one to rest. You see why I am concerned 



about correct wiring here. Thanks for any help, George Burke 1977 FC31 



Charlotte

02-29-2008, 17:24

Thanks Terry, but I also got the switch from NAPA, just before I found out that the connector had melted down. I used the old Delco Remy #, and they crossed it over. There was no actual # on either part.Earl Davissaid henowhas the switches in stock. I'm not sureif it matters switch wise, but my Bird is powered by a 534 c.i. Ford gas engine. The electrical diagram in my book actuallyshows a release dateof 9-18-1973. Mine is a 1977. Actually some of the wires do not match the diagram. If anyone has a gas engine powered Bird from the 70's, thatshows a different Electrical Diagram date than the above, I would love to talk to them.Thanks, George Burke 1977 FC31 Charlotte PS. the Delco # 1995163 = NAPA HL6554SB

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Terry Neal <"bird@mountainrovers.com"> wrote:

George, do you need a headlight switch? I have a couple of new ones from BB. Can check the part number for you if you have the number for your switch?

Terry

Terry Neal
Bozeman, MT
82PT40 6V92TA
74FC34 6V53T

George Burke wrote:

My headlight switch has smoked its self. The connector went out with
it. BB doesn't carry the connector, found at NAPA, EC20, along with the
switch, a Delco, which some parts places say is prone to failure. I

have found a wire that was in slot #3, (B/Y) that according to my BB
schematic, is supposed to be in slot #7. Maybe that is why my dash
lights won't dim, which was a previous problem. Also previously, I had

to jiggle the rod to get the headlights to come on sometimes. I have
had to do that once with the new switch. Has anyone had to deal with
this problem. Would be appreciative of some insight, as I am worried
that some other wire switching may have occured. I might add that on

this bus, when I replaced the gen.hr. meter, someone had crossed the
wires, putting the previous one to rest. You see why I am concerned
about correct wiring here. Thanks for any help, George Burke 1977 FC31

Charlotte

03-01-2008, 03:51

Often a switch burns out when an appliance it turns on draw too much juice.

Setting up a relay to power the lights will route the juice to glow the light away from the dash switch. the dash switch will then only power or trip the relays. JohnF has an article about a headlight relay upgrade some place.

You can use several relays to trip different lights that the switch powers. Set the dash switch to trip each relay in parellel. that way a fault in one light orlength of wirewill not darken the remaining lights.

The relay also helps supply more juice to the lights and they glow brighter

.

CurtS of this forum built a relay board for my ailing tail lights and an independent set of relays for the trailer plug. that way the toad or trailer wont effect the bus running lights.

94pt Taillight relays

http://www.pbase.com/gregoryoc/image/82214174

GregoryO'Connor

94ptRomolandCa

03-01-2008, 04:17

Terry, are you going with leds for your tail lites? Dave hardy gave me some front turn signal leds. They sure are bright.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana

Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

03-01-2008, 04:30

Mine are Doran, that Dave gave me. I have the originals at home. Plus I have some original tail lites at home, also. If anyone needs a lite, I can ask Brenda to send them out.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana

Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

03-01-2008, 09:11

Good stuff Greg. Am going to do head & tail lights on mine as soon
as the snow melts a little. A lot of protection in these upgrades.

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92TA

74FC34 6V53T











Gregory OConnor wrote:











Often a switch burns out when an appliance it turns on draw too much

juice. 




Setting up a relay to power the lights will route the juice to

glow the light away from the dash switch. the dash switch will then

only power or trip the relays. JohnF has an article about a headlight relay upgrade some place. 




You can use several relays to trip different lights that the

switch powers. Set the dash switch to trip each relay in parellel.

that way a fault in one light orlength of wirewill not darken the

remaining lights.




The relay also helps supply more juice to the lights and they glow

brighter . 




CurtS of this forum built a relay board for my ailing tail lights

and an independent set of relays for the trailer plug. that way the

toad or trailer wont effect the bus running lights.




94pt

Taillight relays




http://www.pbase.com/gregoryoc/image/82214174




GregoryO'Connor




94ptRomolandCa

03-01-2008, 09:27

Hey Ernie,

Yes, planned to use LEDs What brand, etc are your turn signals? I
need them too as mine are all rusted out & I understand the
originals are NLA.

Welcome back to the snow country. Will stop & say hello soon.

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92TA

74FC34 6V53T











"erniecarpet@aol.com" wrote:









Terry, are you going with leds for your tail lites? Dave hardy

gave me some front turn signal leds. They sure are bright.


Ernie Ekberg



83PT40



Livingston, Montana
















Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.

03-01-2008, 09:44

There is a headlight relay modification description in the forum files at
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Wand...ficat\
ion/

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
>
>
> Often a switch burns out when an appliance it turns on draw too much
> juice.
>
> Setting up a relay to power the lights will route the juice to glow the
> light away from the dash switch. the dash switch will then only power or
> trip the relays. JohnF has an article about a headlight relay upgrade
> some place.
>
> You can use several relays to trip different lights that the switch
> powers. Set the dash switch to trip each relay in parellel. that way
> a fault in one light or length of wire will not darken the remaining
> lights.
>
> The relay also helps supply more juice to the lights and they glow
> brighter [B-)] .
>
> CurtS of this forum built a relay board for my ailing tail lights and an
> independent set of relays for the trailer plug. that way the toad or
> trailer wont effect the bus running lights.
>
> 94pt Taillight relays <http://www.pbase.com/gregoryoc/image/82214174>
>
> http://www.pbase.com/gregoryoc/image/82214174
> <http://www.pbase.com/gregoryoc/image/82214174>
>
> GregoryO'Connor
>
> 94ptRomolandCa
>

03-01-2008, 16:05

Terry:
I sure could use that 74 of yours to run up and down the hills here, gosh would that be nice LOL.
Can I borrow it for a while .

Bill 84 FC 35 SB "$quanderlodge"
Terrace, B.C. Canada

----- Original Message ----
From: Terry Neal

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2008 1:11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Headlight Switch

Good stuff Greg. Am going to do head & tail lights on mine as soon
as the snow melts a little. A lot of protection in these upgrades.

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92TA

74FC34 6V53T











Gregory OConnor wrote:











Often a switch burns out when an appliance it turns on draw too much

juice. 




Setting up a relay to power the lights will route the juice to

glow the light away from the dash switch. the dash switch will then

only power or trip the relays. JohnF has an article about a headlight relay upgrade some place. 




You can use several relays to trip different lights that the

switch powers. Set the dash switch to trip each relay in parellel.

that way a fault in one light orlength of wirewill not darken the

remaining lights.




The relay also helps supply more juice to the lights and they glow

brighter . 




CurtS of this forum built a relay board for my ailing tail lights

and an independent set of relays for the trailer plug. that way the

toad or trailer wont effect the bus running lights.




94pt

Taillight relays




http://www.pbase. com/gregoryoc/ image/82214174




GregoryO'Connor




94ptRomolandCa

Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers.

03-01-2008, 16:58

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>Thanks for the info. on relays Gregg. Great looking board. I now
know that Harry the Butcher has worked on my bus at some point. I
moved the B/Y wire from #3 to #7 as my diagram showed and "YES", I
can now dim my dash lights for the first time. I also found a wire up
top that was labeled "Fog Lights", but wasn't attached anywhere. It
may have been attached to the accessory solenoid at one time. Looks
like I've got more re-wiring to chase down. That problem will be for
another day, as needless to say they don't work. On these older BB's,
can anyone tell me what is normal here. I pull the H/L switch out one
click, and get both parking lights up front, both in the rear, plus
the tag light. When I turn on the low beams, or high beams, the front
parking lights aren't on, the rear lights all work fine. Is this the
BB way on these older buses, or is Harry still messing with me. Tia,
George Burke 1977 FC31 Charlotte
>
>
> Often a switch burns out when an appliance it turns on draw too much
> juice.
>
> Setting up a relay to power the lights will route the juice to glow
the
> light away from the dash switch. the dash switch will then only
power or
> trip the relays. JohnF has an article about a headlight relay
upgrade
> some place.
>
> You can use several relays to trip different lights that the switch
> powers. Set the dash switch to trip each relay in parellel. that
way
> a fault in one light or length of wire will not darken the
remaining
> lights.
>
> The relay also helps supply more juice to the lights and they glow
> brighter [B-)] .
>
> CurtS of this forum built a relay board for my ailing tail lights
and an
> independent set of relays for the trailer plug. that way the toad or
> trailer wont effect the bus running lights.
>
> 94pt Taillight relays
<http://www.pbase.com/gregoryoc/image/82214174>
>
> http://www.pbase.com/gregoryoc/image/82214174
> <http://www.pbase.com/gregoryoc/image/82214174>
>
> GregoryO'Connor
>
> 94ptRomolandCa
>