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03-12-2008, 04:25
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Greg: Thanks for the info. I will test tonight as you suggested.
Appreciate the link, also. Kevin: Appreciate your responses, thank you. If the problem is indeed my governor, I'll keep your mechanic's idea in the back of my head and propose it if mine also cannot be reached. -Ryan '86 PT-40 8V92 |
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03-12-2008, 05:28
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Am I correct that your "4 tanks" agrees with my "three separate storage"
systems? (wet plus 3 storage) Or are you saying that there are 4 storage, and if so, how are they broken out? Don Bradner 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder" Eureka, CA On 3/12/2008 at 5:23 AM Leroy Eckert wrote: >Don, there are 4 tanks. Lanyards make for easy draining. >Leroy Eckert >1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors >Dahlonega, GA >Royale Conversion > >Don Bradner > My assumption is that there are three separate (at least) air storage >systems on my Bird. One for brakes, one for suspension, and one for >auxiliary, with the latter including the step. That one is the fastest >leaker on mine. The assumption is based on: The front/rear gauge, which is >the brakes, stays up. The air bags stay inflated. The low air indicator >comes on in just a few minutes without air, and the step comes out. > > It is possible, of course, that there are only two, and the bags are >actually on the same system but stay up due to check valves; that does not >change the fact that the aux system loses air fairly rapidly. I know I get >some loss around the air dump valves. There are lots of other places, such >as air waste dump valves, bulk oil fill, step cover, freshwater purge, >air-extended driving lights, and probably more I can't think of. > > Don Bradner > 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder" > Eureka, CA > > On 3/11/2008 at 6:46 PM Ryan Wright wrote: > > >Thanks Ron & Kevin for your advice. I'm not sure how to check the > >governor/regulator (assume you're both talking about the same thing?). > >Kevin, where was yours originally located at, and how did you test it? > > > >I don't hear air escaping when the brakes are applied. > > > >-Ryan > >'86 PT-40 8V92 > > > >On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 6:06 PM, > >> > >> Check your governor...Mine went bad a few years ago, and I had similar > >> problems. Hopefully your governor has been relocated to an accessible > >> location....I replumbed mine, and bypassed the original because it was >so > >> hard to get to (up in a frame rail, behind the transmission). do you > >hear > >> air escaping when you apply the brakes? I did, and I had a faulty >brake > >> actuator "can". A leaking air bag could also be causing the air loss. > >> > >> Just a few things to look at.... > >> > >> Kevin McKeown > >> Yorba Linda, CA > >> 1986 38' PT (For Sale) > > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. |
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03-12-2008, 05:31
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I'm not sure how "normal" I would call any air leak, just pointing out that
there are lots of places and separate storage tanks. I would love to find/repair all of the leaks to my auxiliary system. I know, for example, that if I wiggle the air fittings to the dump valves I can induce an audible leak. I don't know how those fittings work, and hence how to fix them. Don Bradner 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder" Eureka, CA On 3/12/2008 at 8:19 AM Ryan Wright wrote: >Thanks Don. Really appreciate this information, I did not know this; >it's good to know my air system is holding air acceptably. The >suspension does stay up, as does the air on the front/rear gauge. It's >just the aux air systems that bleed down fairly rapidly. I'm quite >pleased to hear this is normal. > >So the problem, then, is just the front/rear (brake) tanks depleting >so quickly and taking so long to fill back up.  I'll bet the>mechanics find it pretty quick Friday. I brought the coach to them >once before and they did a great job. > >-Ryan >'86 PT-40 8V92 > >On 3/11/08, Don Bradner >> >> My assumption is that there are three separate (at least) air storage >systems on my Bird. >> One for brakes, one for suspension, and one for auxiliary, with the >latter including the >> step. That one is the fastest leaker on mine. The assumption is based >on: The front/rear >> gauge, which is the brakes, stays up. The air bags stay inflated. The >low air indicator >> comes on in just a few minutes without air, and the step comes out. > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |
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03-12-2008, 06:18
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The print identifies them as Rear Reservoir, Wet Reservoir, aux wet tank and Front Reservoir. The first three surround the dryer and the Front is way up difficult to see and access. If you don't have a print I can make one and send snail mail. I also have a pn breakdown with the print. I installed lanyards on mine so they are easy to maintain(drain).
Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion Don Bradner
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03-12-2008, 06:45
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Don, On my coach these fittings are either Clippard or Parker-Hannifen quick connects. To release the air line, depress on the colloar (either yellow or green) and pull on the air line. Clip a quarter inch off the airline (nice and square) and push into the fitting until it bottoms. Should solve the leak. David Brady '02 LXi, NC Don Bradner wrote:
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03-12-2008, 16:40
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They look like that style (after looking at the Clippard website), but the line
doesn't want to come out easily - how much of a tug should it be? Collar looks to be greyish, and was overpainted in black that is mostly gone. On 3/12/2008 at 12:45 PM David Brady wrote: >Don, > >On my coach these fittings are either Clippard or Parker-Hannifen >quick connects. To release the air line, depress on the colloar (either >yellow or green) and pull on the air line. Clip a quarter inch off the >airline (nice and square) and push into the fitting until it bottoms. >Should solve the leak. > >David Brady >'02 LXi, NC > >Don Bradner wrote: >> >> I'm not sure how "normal" I would call any air leak, just pointing out >> that there are lots of places and separate storage tanks. >> >> I would love to find/repair all of the leaks to my auxiliary system. I >> know, for example, that if I wiggle the air fittings to the dump >> valves I can induce an audible leak. I don't know how those fittings >> work, and hence how to fix them. >> >> Don Bradner >> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder" >> Eureka, CA >> >> On 3/12/2008 at 8:19 AM Ryan Wright wrote: >> >> >Thanks Don. Really appreciate this information, I did not know this; >> >it's good to know my air system is holding air acceptably. The >> >suspension does stay up, as does the air on the front/rear gauge. It's >> >just the aux air systems that bleed down fairly rapidly. I'm quite >> >pleased to hear this is normal. >> > >> >So the problem, then, is just the front/rear (brake) tanks depleting >> >so quickly and taking so long to fill back up. I'll bet the>> >mechanics find it pretty quick Friday. I brought the coach to them >> >once before and they did a great job. >> > >> >-Ryan >> >'86 PT-40 8V92 >> > >> >On 3/11/08, Don Bradner >> >> >> >> My assumption is that there are three separate (at least) air storage >> >systems on my Bird. >> >> One for brakes, one for suspension, and one for auxiliary, with the >> >latter including the >> >> step. That one is the fastest leaker on mine. The assumption is based >> >on: The front/rear >> >> gauge, which is the brakes, stays up. The air bags stay inflated. The >> >low air indicator >> >> comes on in just a few minutes without air, and the step comes out. >> > >> > >> > >> >Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: >3/11/2008 1:41 PM >> |
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03-12-2008, 17:09
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Don
I have the drawings for the air system if you need me to scan them and send them to you. My 84 is doing almost the same thing I do know that the treadle valve for the accelerator. My front and rear gauges show good air which if if I am not mistaken are for the brakes. Hugh & Lexie Turner 1984 Wanderlodge PT 40 âOUR DREAMâ FMCA F393612 Bluebird Chapter FCRV #75760 Pollywogs chapter Good Sam Life Member 057729600 Thomaston, Ga 30286 hturner12@...
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03-12-2008, 21:28
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In a message dated 3/12/2008 8:40:32 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, bluethunder@... writes:
> Push on the plastic line itself, toward the device it's attached to, and push in the ring/collar at the same time. While holding the collar in, pull the plastic line out...there will be a little resistance. Reverse the operation to reattach.
Kevin McKeown
Yorba Linda, CA
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03-13-2008, 01:35
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Don, after you get the nylon line out, if the fitting is like mine with an off white or gray collar, inside is a small "o" ring that surrounds the od of the tubing. I have extra tubing, fittings and clips from BB. They are not expensive.
Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion krminyl@... wrote:
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03-13-2008, 01:55
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A good bit of tug is required - 5 lbs??? They are a little stubborn. Just be sure to depress the collar as best you can with one hand and tug with the other. David '02 LXi, NC Don Bradner wrote:
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