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04-21-2008, 13:10

There has never been a problem with multi-grade in a 4 stroke engine.
The only discussion here referring to straight 40 weight is for the
two-cycle engines that Detroit has built. Detroit has always
recommended this and has been against the mutli-grades, whether
regular oil or synthetic. I believe the primary reason is the fact
that the two-strokes idle with only 5 psi oil pressure and multi-grade
won't properly support the crankshaft under those conditions. Can't
say this for sure, but I would bet this is the reason.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Larry Dill
wrote:
>
> Hi Dorn,
> I am running Delvac 1 5w-40 in my 3208... The PO had been using it
and when I took possession of the BB it came with 5 gal. of the
liquid... So I am continuing with the Delvac...
> HTH
>
> Sea Ya
> Larry
> NYC
> 84 35FCSB
> 'Pura Vida'
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Dorn Hetzel
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:31:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 93 PT-40 for sale in Nashville
>
> Does anyone have thoughts about running synthetic
(of any kind) in the 3208 ?
>
> Dorn Hetzel
> 77FC35
> Hogansville, GA
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Leroy Eckert com> wrote:
> Yes, I am aware DD requires API CF-2 40w. I just
wanted to see what the company selling this stuff says and whether it
meets DD spec's. As far as the Allison, I will give the Transyn a try
since Allison seems to think it the hot deal.
> Thanks,
>
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
>
> Royale Conversion
>
>
> Joe Garner wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Leroy,
>
> Check this link for DD's recommended oils...
>
> http://www.detroitd iesel.com/ pdf/vocations/ Lube-Oil-
Fuel-Requirement s.pdf
>
>
> Also, for those that use the DELO 400 in the DD 2
> strokes _Please_ check the Chevron website at:
>
> http://www.chevrond elo.com/en/ deloworldwide/ uscanadamexico/
default.asp
>
> They are very specific that the 400 is for the 4
> strokes and the 100 is for the 2 strokes!
>
> Transyn seems to be a good idea according to
> Allison, I tried to get the shop to put it in when
> they did the fluids on mine but they where so
> clueless about oil that I just went with the dino
> oil. I'll get it next time :}
>
> /Joe
>
> Leroy Eckert wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have emailed the manufacturer and asked specific questions about
this
> > product and Detroit Spec's. If they answer I will post the response.
> > Detroit 8v92 diesels are not listed on their site that I can see.
> > The only time I considered using synthetic oil was in my airplane
when
> > Mobil touted it as better than sliced bread until aircraft engines
> > started failing at 10,000 feet.
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> > Dahlonega, GA
> >
> > */PM7088@comcast. net/* wrote:
> >
> > The gene pool of home mechanics is purified by folks who: Use
> > Amsoil in 2 cycle diesels, install K&N air filters and/or propane
> > injectors and or sill "Chips" that increase their horsepower
to the
> > point that pistons melt.
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >
> > ------------ -- Original message ------------ --
> > From: brad barton
>
>
> > I always heard never to use anything but single-weight oil
on my
> > 8V92..never multigrade unless in a pinch.
> > FWIW
> >
> > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@hotmail. com
> >
> >
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
> > From: aamiller@chiohd. com
> > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:41:17 +0000
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 93 PT-40 for sale in
Nashville
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Do you like Amsoil also? I use the 15w40 heavy duty Marine
> > in the
> > generator as well as the 8v92 and it is doing a great
job. I
> > would
> > like to also switch the transmission fluid but haven't got
> > it done
> > yet. I also use Amsoil in the boys two BMW's, the wife's
> > van, my 05
> > Duramax pickup and in the tractor and mowers as well.
> >
> > Alvie Miller
> > 93 WLWB
> > Arthur IL
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com
>
> > , "mbulriss"
>
> >
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Kurt,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the update. I'm going to change mine over to
> > the Amsoil
> > > equivalent of the Transynd, since I can get that
cheaper.
> > 1MPG
> > > increase is 20%!
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minvan"
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
>
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04-21-2008, 23:22

You, same Pete,

Amsoil is a great oil, I just refuse to do business with pyramid marketers on general ethics issues. Amsoil buys it's base stock from Mobile {Last time I knew}, they use "richer stock", very good 100% synthetic oil.

I used DELVAC1 in my diesel Benz, at 300Kmi, she ran like a top and used none. I used the synthetic for it abality to cold crank, 20,000 mile changes (supported by anaylisis) were nice too.

In my Ford P'Stroke, I use Rotella, engine is 100% after 197Kmi. Chassis will fall apart soon ;-(

I would never put mulitgrade in a 2 cycle detroit, that last a very long time when using the correct 40wt oil. But than, I no longer own one so it's a mute point.

YMMV

Pete, still old

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>

Hey Alvie Miller - I rest my case!

Pete, aren't you the same person that once said *ALL* DD engines
require straight 40W? I also remember you later said jokingly
something like "you are an old guy and all real DDs are 2-cycle" to you.

I guess I'm pressing my luck by not having any lubrication related
failures,... you know, having used Amsoil since 1979 in general and in
my Birds since early 1997. Lots of other members are also using Amsoil
and other synthetics in their Birds.

I know DD updated their 93K124 document on "ENGINE REQUIREMENTS â
LUBRICATING OIL, FUEL AND FILTERS" in 2005, but that update was mainly
to update to reflect the newest API CI-4 rating. That document is
almost entirely about the new series engines now and only mentions the
older 2-cycles by re-printing what has always been there. In their
defense, I can't imagine why DD would spend $$$$$$$$ certifying the
new breed of oils for an obsolete engine, but isn
't it odd that they
certify and recommend multi-weight synthetics and dino-based oils for
the newer engines?

Just for the record, all my DD manuals I have ever had always said you
can use 15W-40 in colder climates, but recommend to change back to
straight weight when temps rise to 'normal' again (above 40-50F? I
think it was). Lubricating oils have come a long way from when DD
started building the 2-cycles and was actively certifying oils for
them. Multi-weight dino-based oils, circa 60s and 70s, did in fact
break down incredibly fast when DD was actively building the 2-cycles
and actively certifying oils for them. Testing proved that the
straight weight petroleum oils were much better back then for shear
strength and thermal stability.

Times change. The API standards have also evolved. The synthetics
outperform petroleum based oils by a wide margin today. The way I
understand it, the current generation of 15W-40 synthetics pas
s all
requirements for the old straight weight petroleum 40. (Note: Even
Mobil's Delvac 1 5W-40 is certified for the Series 60. And anything
with 5W in it makes me shudder.)

I compare the specs listed by DD against the actual specs of the oil I
use. Since we are talking Amsoil here, they used to make a straight
40-weight diesel oil. Demand dropped to nothing, API standards
changed, and now it is the 15W-40. I called and talked with their
engineers before I went to that. (As the old 2-cycles get retired, and
the market for the old straight weight oils shrinks further, fewer and
fewer companies will even supply a straight-weight 40.)

If you look at thermal stability and high shear strength, critical
measurements for oil protection, the DD literature says: "In 15W-40
grade oils, a HT/HS viscosity below 3.7 centipoise (cP) indicates that
the oil will not perform as a 40 grade oil at engine operating
conditions." Amsoil's 15W-40 is measured at 4.4cP, well above DD
minimum requirements. Checking DD Table 3.2 from their oil spec for
40W oil, the Amsoil 15W40 that Alvie mentioned meets all the Kinematic
Viscosity and the Viscosity Index requirements.

Further, with the clean air acts and the decreases in sulfur
requirements it is becoming a lot harder for the petroleum based
fluids to meet the TBN (Total Base Number) requirements of the old
2-cycles - which is listed at a range of 7-10 TBN from the DD 40W
chart. Now TBN is really a case where bigger is better. Amsoil's TBN
is 12.1 for their 15W-40. Total Base Number measures an oil's
alkalinity and ability to neutralize acid using lab testing (ASTM D
2896 or D 4739) - acid production is generally considered bad for your
basic internal combustion engine.

Finally, from the Amsoil web site:
AMSOIL Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel & Marine Motor Oil is recommended
for use in diesel engines and other applications r
equiring any of the
listed worldwide specifications and gasoline engines requiring API SL,
SJ, SHâ¦ or ACEA A3.

* API CI-4+, CF, CF-2, SL
* ACEA A3/B3, E2, E3, E5, E7
* Global DHD-1
* JASO DH-1
* Mack EO-N Premium Plus '03
* DDC Power Guard 93K214
* Caterpillar ECF-1A, ECF-2

Now I suppose they could be lying in print, but they probably have
lawyers to prevent them from doing that unless they actually can prove
that they can meet those specs.

Anyway, didn't mean to bludgeon the subject. I just wanted to set the
record straight. Newer doesn't mean bad. Otherwise the API, SAE and
ASTM testing wouldn't keep evolving. In the old days, if we got 100k
miles out of a car engine without a re-build it was fantastic. Now
(with something at least resembling proper maintenance) people
regularly get upwards of 250k. I've never had a Suburban with under
300k when I got rid of it, and they were all running good. Lots of
that is
due strictly to lubrication advances.

FWIW,

Mike Bulriss - gene pool still functioning fine thank you
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"- 8V92 running that nasty old Amsoil
San Antonio, TX

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", PM7088@... wrote:
>
> The gene pool of home mechanics is purified by folks who: Use
Amsoil in 2 cycle diesels, install K&N air filters and/or propane
injectors and or sill "Chips" that increase their horsepower to the
point that pistons melt.
>
> Pete
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: brad barton <bbartonwx@.<WBR>..>
> I always heard never to use anything but single-weight oil on my
8V92..never multigrade unless in a pinch.
> FWIW
>
> Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...
>
>
>
>
>
> To: "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"
> From: aamiller@...
> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:41:17 +0000
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 93 PT-40 for sale in Nashville
>
>
> Mike,
>
> Do you like Amsoil also? I use the 15w40 heavy duty Marine in the
> generator as well as the 8v92 and it is doing a great job. I would
> like to also switch the transmission fluid but haven't got it done
> yet. I also use Amsoil in the boys two BMW's, the wife's van, my 05
> Duramax pickup and in the tractor and mowers as well.
>
> Alvie Miller
> 93 WLWB
> Arthur IL
>
> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Kurt,
> >
> > Thanks for the update. I'm going to change mine over to the Amsoil

gt; > equivalent of the Transynd, since I can get that cheaper. 1MPG
> > increase is 20%!
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minvan"
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> >
> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > I call Prevost and they told me it is Transynd by Castrol.
> > > http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/transynd.jsp
> > >
> > > I also had a level 3 service which replaces all filters. In the
> > > Allison 6 speed I think there are 3 internal filters and of
> course
> > > all oil, fuel and air filters. They greased everything that c
ould
> be
> > > grease and it also helped in the braking. I used to get a noise
> from
> > > the front brake that was called normal but it has now quit.
> > >
> > > I was told when I bought my coach that all the fluid & filters
> had
> > > been changed but I really don't know for sure. But it did not
> perform
> > > like it does now.
> > >
> > > What I do know is that I'm up to 5.5 to 6 MPG from 4.5 to 4.8
> > > according to the SilverLeaf VMSpc.
> > >
> > > Call it what you like, it's working for me.
> > >
> > > Here's something to chew on. I don't know anything about H2O
> helping
> > > your fuel mileage but I know Propane injection works. On a trip
> last
> > > summer I was at a Flying J in S.W. KY. At the RV island.
> > >
> gt; > A trucker in a red and white Peterbuilt pulled in behind me. I
> > > thought that to strange in itself, so I went back to his truck to
> > > tell him I was going to be there a while for fuel and propane.
> > >
> > > He told me he was after propane. I asked why and he said he had a
> > > truck with propane injection and the outfit he drove for was
> testing
> > > the system on 20 or so trucks. I asked if it was working and he
> > > professed almost 2.5 MPG up on average.
> > >
> > > I don't know about that, but I do know the guy whom works on my
> Ford
> > > Powerstroke has a propane fire diesel pick up that with rip and
> > > snort, and he's getting better MPG than my truck gets
> > >
> > > Kurt Horvath
> > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > >
> > >
> > >

gt; > >
> > > In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss" <mbulriss@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really made a
> > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth
> shifting.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > HELLO! 1MPG from tranny fluid change!? Hey Kurt, feel free to
> > > > expound on the tranny fluid change. Synthetic I assume? I
> have
> > > been
> > > > putting that change off for a while since the dino tranny fluid
> was
> > > > fresh, but for 1MPG.....
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" - in need of a quick cheap 1MPG
> upgrade
> > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Well you can tell I've been off the web for a while. My
> computers
> > > > > were infected by a Trojan virus late in Jan. It took a while
> and
> > > a
> > > > > new laptop to fix the problems. I lost a lot of files and had
> to
> > > get
> > > > > new credit cards. S.O.B.'s, "and I don't mean, Some Other
> Bus" So
> > > if
> > > > > I repeat any request or post, or stuff you guys have already
> > > beaten
> > > > > to death, forgive me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike your right; I do recall seeing that coach listed for a
> while
> > > > > now. If it's truly a good deal it won't stick around for
> long.
> > > I'll
> > > > > go by Staley's if I have time just to look at her.
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul, The Indulgence is safe at home and ready for this
> weekend's
> > > > > trip. I'm taking my daughter and 9 of her friends to
> Nashville
> > > for
> > > > > their Senior Prom. Should be Hoot!
> > > > >
> > > > > Bye the way my coach is not for sale, I like all Birds, but
> the
> > > PT-
> > > > > 42's are my favorite flavor, maybe a 43 would due but I would
> not
> > > go
> > > > > to a 40 footer of any mfg. Yes you're right I'm spoiled! All
> I
> > > need
> > > > > now is a Stacker Trailer that doesn't cost as much as my
> coach,
> > > so I
> > > > > can load it up full of toys and its party time!
> > > > >
> > > > > I had a full servicing done at Prevost Nashville a few months
> ago
> > > and
> > > > > it was well worth the money. All new filters & fluids, the
> new
> > > tranny
> > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really made a
> > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth <B R>> shifting.
> > > The
> > > > > Jake is even smoother and not as radical, the jerking upon
> > > activation
> > > > > has gone away. I'm a very happy camper. The brakes were
> checked
> > > for
> > > > > wear and a full chassis lube, headlights adjusted and new
> wiper
> > > > > blades. She is ready to roll.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > >
> > > > > Damn the price of fuel! Full speed ahead!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss"
> <mbulriss@>
> > > >
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Being rather partial to green coaches, I tend to watch for
> > > them.
> > > > > That
> > > > > > one looks really good in the pictures, but it has been on
> > > > > consignment
> > > > > > on Staley's lot for a *long* time. I distinctly remember
> the
> > > > > > (HEADLINER IN FRONT LOUNGE HAS DAMAGE AND NEEDS TO BE
> REPAIRED)
> > > > > > comment. Odd there are no pictures of the damage. As I
> recall,
> > > > > > someone went to see it and had posted a rather negative
> > > review. I
> > > > > > searched for that post but can't find it right now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If someone remembers that post or went to see the coach,
> please
> gt; > > > update
> > > > > > us again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" (lot's of greeeeen, baby)
> > > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I ran across this coach will surfing this morning.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I like it but I don't know anything about it's history.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The link is listed below
> > > > > > >
> > > > gt; > > http://www.staleycoach.com/48350.htm
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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04-22-2008, 00:58

Mike:

Re Amsoil mfr. approvals:

If you read the Amsoil statement carefully they do not say that their
oil meets any of the approvals you mentioned. Amsoil does this a lot.
They have not subjected many of their oils to the engine mfrs. or an
approved lab for tetsing. I think what they are trying to say without
admitting the above is that their oil is an equivalent. However it
makes one wonder why they do not seek the required approval. As for
the discussion on dino v synthetics. There are applications where
synthetics have an advantage. The Canadian North is one. HD truck
trannies and difs is another. Road Ranger is able to give million
mile warranties on their transmissions due to the use of synthetics.
I have an article in one of my other computers that I will try to
find. Major oil company engineers are interviewed and the consensus
is that synthetics for HD diesel engines is a waste of $. Modern
engine oils are so advanced that they are almost synthetics. The
additive packages and the viscosity index improvers are light years
ahead of the oils of say 20 years ago. Many synthetics are actually
made from dino oil. It is simply the way they are refined. As far as
I know no major synthetic mfr. has a label that states this oil
contains no dino oil. I would like to know if any major transport
company uses synthetics? Schneider, UPS, Swift, Wal Mart??? These
companies are always loking for ways to reduce costs. If synthetics
provided an improvement they would be using that oil.

Bruce
1988FC35

04-22-2008, 01:45

Mike and all,

I apologize for starting this huge Smile

controversy but quite frankly I
think you are 100% correct in stating that oil technology has
improved to the point where Detroit Diesels suggestions are way
behind the times. I can only speak from personal experience as I
don't have the oil industry back ground that Mike does but due to the
fact that I have used synthetic lubricants for many years and have
had very good success is the reason that I went with Amsoil's
recommendation to use the 15W40 in our 1993 8V92. The engine oil
consumption
dropped from 1 quart every 200 miles to around 1 quart per 600 miles.
With straight 40W Shell Rotella the oil was thin and black within the
first 500 miles but with the Amsoil it was still clear after 3000
miles same as in my Duramax Chevy after 7500 miles. Exhaust smoke was
also considerably reduced on the 8V92. Use what you like but be
assured there are definite advantages to the newer synthetic
formulations. My genes also seem to still be working fine Smile

Best to all,
Alvie Miller
1993 WLWB on Amsoil 15W40
Arthur IL

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...>
wrote:
>
> Hey Alvie Miller - I rest my case!
>
> Pete, aren't you the same person that once said *ALL* DD engines
> require straight 40W? I also remember you later said jokingly
> something like "you are an old guy and all real DDs are 2-cycle" to
you.
>
> I guess I'm pressing my luck by not having any lubrication related
> failures,... you know, having used Amsoil since 1979 in general and
in
> my Birds since early 1997. Lots of other members are also using
Amsoil
> and other synthetics in their Birds.
>
> I know DD updated their 93K124 document on "ENGINE REQUIREMENTS â
> LUBRICATING OIL, FUEL AND FILTERS" in 2005, but that update was
mainly
> to update to reflect the newest API CI-4 rating. That document is
> almost entirely about the new series engines now and only mentions
the
> older 2-cycles by re-printing what has always been there. In their
> defense, I can't imagine why DD would spend $$$$$$$$ certifying the
> new breed of oils for an obsolete engine, but isn't it odd that they
> certify and recommend multi-weight synthetics and dino-based oils
for
> the newer engines?
>
> Just for the record, all my DD manuals I have ever had always said
you
> can use 15W-40 in colder climates, but recommend to change back to
> straight weight when temps rise to 'normal' again (above 40-50F? I
> think it was). Lubricating oils have come a long way from when DD
> started building the 2-cycles and was actively certifying oils for
> them. Multi-weight dino-based oils, circa 60s and 70s, did in fact
> break down incredibly fast when DD was actively building the 2-
cycles
> and actively certifying oils for them. Testing proved that the
> straight weight petroleum oils were much better back then for shear
> strength and thermal stability.
>
> Times change. The API standards have also evolved. The synthetics
> outperform petroleum based oils by a wide margin today. The way I
> understand it, the current generation of 15W-40 synthetics pass all
> requirements for the old straight weight petroleum 40. (Note: Even
> Mobil's Delvac 1 5W-40 is certified for the Series 60. And anything
> with 5W in it makes me shudder.)
>
> I compare the specs listed by DD against the actual specs of the
oil I
> use. Since we are talking Amsoil here, they used to make a
straight
> 40-weight diesel oil. Demand dropped to nothing, API standards
> changed, and now it is the 15W-40. I called and talked with their
> engineers before I went to that. (As the old 2-cycles get retired,
and
> the market for the old straight weight oils shrinks further, fewer
and
> fewer companies will even supply a straight-weight 40.)
>
> If you look at thermal stability and high shear strength, critical
> measurements for oil protection, the DD literature says: "In 15W-40
> grade oils, a HT/HS viscosity below 3.7 centipoise (cP) indicates
that
> the oil will not perform as a 40 grade oil at engine operating
> conditions." Amsoil's 15W-40 is measured at 4.4cP, well above DD
> minimum requirements. Checking DD Table 3.2 from their oil spec for
> 40W oil, the Amsoil 15W40 that Alvie mentioned meets all the
Kinematic
> Viscosity and the Viscosity Index requirements.
>
> Further, with the clean air acts and the decreases in sulfur
> requirements it is becoming a lot harder for the petroleum based
> fluids to meet the TBN (Total Base Number) requirements of the old
> 2-cycles - which is listed at a range of 7-10 TBN from the DD 40W
> chart. Now TBN is really a case where bigger is better. Amsoil's
TBN
> is 12.1 for their 15W-40. Total Base Number measures an oil's
> alkalinity and ability to neutralize acid using lab testing (ASTM D
> 2896 or D 4739) - acid production is generally considered bad for
your
> basic internal combustion engine.
>
> Finally, from the Amsoil web site:
> AMSOIL Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel & Marine Motor Oil is recommended
> for use in diesel engines and other applications requiring any of
the
> listed worldwide specifications and gasoline engines requiring API
SL,
> SJ, SH or ACEA A3.
>
> * API CI-4+, CF, CF-2, SL
> * ACEA A3/B3, E2, E3, E5, E7
> * Global DHD-1
> * JASO DH-1
> * Mack EO-N Premium Plus '03
> * DDC Power Guard 93K214
> * Caterpillar ECF-1A, ECF-2
>
> Now I suppose they could be lying in print, but they probably have
> lawyers to prevent them from doing that unless they actually can
prove
> that they can meet those specs.
>
> Anyway, didn't mean to bludgeon the subject. I just wanted to set
the
> record straight. Newer doesn't mean bad. Otherwise the API, SAE
and
> ASTM testing wouldn't keep evolving. In the old days, if we got
100k
> miles out of a car engine without a re-build it was fantastic. Now
> (with something at least resembling proper maintenance) people
> regularly get upwards of 250k. I've never had a Suburban with under
> 300k when I got rid of it, and they were all running good. Lots of
> that is due strictly to lubrication advances.
>
> FWIW,
>
> Mike Bulriss - gene pool still functioning fine thank you
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"- 8V92 running that nasty old Amsoil
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, PM7088@ wrote:
> >
> > The gene pool of home mechanics is purified by folks who: Use
> Amsoil in 2 cycle diesels, install K&N air filters and/or propane
> injectors and or sill "Chips" that increase their horsepower to the
> point that pistons melt.
> >
> > Pete
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: brad barton <bbartonwx@>
> > I always heard never to use anything but single-weight oil on my
> 8V92..never multigrade unless in a pinch.
> > FWIW
> >
> > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > From: aamiller@
> > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:41:17 +0000
> > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 93 PT-40 for sale in Nashville
> >
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Do you like Amsoil also? I use the 15w40 heavy duty Marine in the
> > generator as well as the 8v92 and it is doing a great job. I
would
> > like to also switch the transmission fluid but haven't got it
done
> > yet. I also use Amsoil in the boys two BMW's, the wife's van, my
05
> > Duramax pickup and in the tractor and mowers as well.
> >
> > Alvie Miller
> > 93 WLWB
> > Arthur IL
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Kurt,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the update. I'm going to change mine over to the
Amsoil
> > > equivalent of the Transynd, since I can get that cheaper. 1MPG
> > > increase is 20%!
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minvan"
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mike,
> > > >
> > > > I call Prevost and they told me it is Transynd by Castrol.
> > > > http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/transynd.jsp
> > > >
> > > > I also had a level 3 service which replaces all filters. In
the
> > > > Allison 6 speed I think there are 3 internal filters and of
> > course
> > > > all oil, fuel and air filters. They greased everything that
could
> > be
> > > > grease and it also helped in the braking. I used to get a
noise
> > from
> > > > the front brake that was called normal but it has now quit.
> > > >
> > > > I was told when I bought my coach that all the fluid &
filters
> > had
> > > > been changed but I really don't know for sure. But it did not
> > perform
> > > > like it does now.
> > > >
> > > > What I do know is that I'm up to 5.5 to 6 MPG from 4.5 to 4.8
> > > > according to the SilverLeaf VMSpc.
> > > >
> > > > Call it what you like, it's working for me.
> > > >
> > > > Here's something to chew on. I don't know anything about H2O
> > helping
> > > > your fuel mileage but I know Propane injection works. On a
trip
> > last
> > > > summer I was at a Flying J in S.W. KY. At the RV island.
> > > >
> > > > A trucker in a red and white Peterbuilt pulled in behind me.
I
> > > > thought that to strange in itself, so I went back to his
truck to
> > > > tell him I was going to be there a while for fuel and
propane.
> > > >
> > > > He told me he was after propane. I asked why and he said he
had a
> > > > truck with propane injection and the outfit he drove for was
> > testing
> > > > the system on 20 or so trucks. I asked if it was working and
he
> > > > professed almost 2.5 MPG up on average.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know about that, but I do know the guy whom works on
my
> > Ford
> > > > Powerstroke has a propane fire diesel pick up that with rip
and
> > > > snort, and he's getting better MPG than my truck gets
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really made
a
> > > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth
> > shifting.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > HELLO! 1MPG from tranny fluid change!? Hey Kurt, feel free
to
> > > > > expound on the tranny fluid change. Synthetic I assume? I
> > have
> > > > been
> > > > > putting that change off for a while since the dino tranny
fluid
> > was
> > > > > fresh, but for 1MPG.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" - in need of a quick cheap 1MPG
> > upgrade
> > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well you can tell I've been off the web for a while. My
> > computers
> > > > > > were infected by a Trojan virus late in Jan. It took a
while
> > and
> > > > a
> > > > > > new laptop to fix the problems. I lost a lot of files and
had
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > new credit cards. S.O.B.'s, "and I don't mean, Some Other
> > Bus" So
> > > > if
> > > > > > I repeat any request or post, or stuff you guys have
already
> > > > beaten
> > > > > > to death, forgive me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike your right; I do recall seeing that coach listed for
a
> > while
> > > > > > now. If it's truly a good deal it won't stick around for
> > long.
> > > > I'll
> > > > > > go by Staley's if I have time just to look at her.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul, The Indulgence is safe at home and ready for this
> > weekend's
> > > > > > trip. I'm taking my daughter and 9 of her friends to
> > Nashville
> > > > for
> > > > > > their Senior Prom. Should be Hoot!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bye the way my coach is not for sale, I like all Birds,
but
> > the
> > > > PT-
> > > > > > 42's are my favorite flavor, maybe a 43 would due but I
would
> > not
> > > > go
> > > > > > to a 40 footer of any mfg. Yes you're right I'm spoiled!
All
> > I
> > > > need
> > > > > > now is a Stacker Trailer that doesn't cost as much as my
> > coach,
> > > > so I
> > > > > > can load it up full of toys and its party time!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had a full servicing done at Prevost Nashville a few
months
> > ago
> > > > and
> > > > > > it was well worth the money. All new filters & fluids,
the
> > new
> > > > tranny
> > > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really made
a
> > > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth
> > shifting.
> > > > The
> > > > > > Jake is even smoother and not as radical, the jerking
upon
> > > > activation
> > > > > > has gone away. I'm a very happy camper. The brakes were
> > checked
> > > > for
> > > > > > wear and a full chassis lube, headlights adjusted and new
> > wiper
> > > > > > blades. She is ready to roll.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Damn the price of fuel! Full speed ahead!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss"
> > <mbulriss@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Being rather partial to green coaches, I tend to watch
for
> > > > them.
> > > > > > That
> > > > > > > one looks really good in the pictures, but it has been
on
> > > > > > consignment
> > > > > > > on Staley's lot for a *long* time. I distinctly
remember
> > the
> > > > > > > (HEADLINER IN FRONT LOUNGE HAS DAMAGE AND NEEDS TO BE
> > REPAIRED)
> > > > > > > comment. Odd there are no pictures of the damage. As I
> > recall,
> > > > > > > someone went to see it and had posted a rather negative
> > > > review. I
> > > > > > > searched for that post but can't find it right now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If someone remembers that post or went to see the
coach,
> > please
> > > > > > update
> > > > > > > us again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" (lot's of greeeeen, baby)
> > > > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I ran across this coach will surfing this morning.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I like it but I don't know anything about it's
history.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The link is listed below
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.staleycoach.com/48350.htm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live
> Messenger. Get started!
> >
>

04-22-2008, 08:34

I'm having a hard time believing your story of clear oil in the 8V92
after 3000 miles. The nature of the beast is to generate soot and
that is what turns the oil black. Show me some laboratory oil
analysis reports and I might believe you.

We all tend to get the results we want.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "whynotam" wrote:
>
> Mike and all,
>
> I apologize for starting this huge Smile

controversy but quite frankly I
> think you are 100% correct in stating that oil technology has
> improved to the point where Detroit Diesels suggestions are way
> behind the times. I can only speak from personal experience as I
> don't have the oil industry back ground that Mike does but due to the
> fact that I have used synthetic lubricants for many years and have
> had very good success is the reason that I went with Amsoil's
> recommendation to use the 15W40 in our 1993 8V92. The engine oil
> consumption
> dropped from 1 quart every 200 miles to around 1 quart per 600 miles.
> With straight 40W Shell Rotella the oil was thin and black within the
> first 500 miles but with the Amsoil it was still clear after 3000
> miles same as in my Duramax Chevy after 7500 miles. Exhaust smoke was
> also considerably reduced on the 8V92. Use what you like but be
> assured there are definite advantages to the newer synthetic
> formulations. My genes also seem to still be working fine Smile

>
> Best to all,
> Alvie Miller
> 1993 WLWB on Amsoil 15W40
> Arthur IL
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Alvie Miller - I rest my case!
> >
> > Pete, aren't you the same person that once said *ALL* DD engines
> > require straight 40W? I also remember you later said jokingly
> > something like "you are an old guy and all real DDs are 2-cycle" to
> you.
> >
> > I guess I'm pressing my luck by not having any lubrication related
> > failures,... you know, having used Amsoil since 1979 in general and
> in
> > my Birds since early 1997. Lots of other members are also using
> Amsoil
> > and other synthetics in their Birds.
> >
> > I know DD updated their 93K124 document on "ENGINE REQUIREMENTS â
> > LUBRICATING OIL, FUEL AND FILTERS" in 2005, but that update was
> mainly
> > to update to reflect the newest API CI-4 rating. That document is
> > almost entirely about the new series engines now and only mentions
> the
> > older 2-cycles by re-printing what has always been there. In their
> > defense, I can't imagine why DD would spend $$$$$$$$ certifying the
> > new breed of oils for an obsolete engine, but isn't it odd that they
> > certify and recommend multi-weight synthetics and dino-based oils
> for
> > the newer engines?
> >
> > Just for the record, all my DD manuals I have ever had always said
> you
> > can use 15W-40 in colder climates, but recommend to change back to
> > straight weight when temps rise to 'normal' again (above 40-50F? I
> > think it was). Lubricating oils have come a long way from when DD
> > started building the 2-cycles and was actively certifying oils for
> > them. Multi-weight dino-based oils, circa 60s and 70s, did in fact
> > break down incredibly fast when DD was actively building the 2-
> cycles
> > and actively certifying oils for them. Testing proved that the
> > straight weight petroleum oils were much better back then for shear
> > strength and thermal stability.
> >
> > Times change. The API standards have also evolved. The synthetics
> > outperform petroleum based oils by a wide margin today. The way I
> > understand it, the current generation of 15W-40 synthetics pass all
> > requirements for the old straight weight petroleum 40. (Note: Even
> > Mobil's Delvac 1 5W-40 is certified for the Series 60. And anything
> > with 5W in it makes me shudder.)
> >
> > I compare the specs listed by DD against the actual specs of the
> oil I
> > use. Since we are talking Amsoil here, they used to make a
> straight
> > 40-weight diesel oil. Demand dropped to nothing, API standards
> > changed, and now it is the 15W-40. I called and talked with their
> > engineers before I went to that. (As the old 2-cycles get retired,
> and
> > the market for the old straight weight oils shrinks further, fewer
> and
> > fewer companies will even supply a straight-weight 40.)
> >
> > If you look at thermal stability and high shear strength, critical
> > measurements for oil protection, the DD literature says: "In 15W-40
> > grade oils, a HT/HS viscosity below 3.7 centipoise (cP) indicates
> that
> > the oil will not perform as a 40 grade oil at engine operating
> > conditions." Amsoil's 15W-40 is measured at 4.4cP, well above DD
> > minimum requirements. Checking DD Table 3.2 from their oil spec for
> > 40W oil, the Amsoil 15W40 that Alvie mentioned meets all the
> Kinematic
> > Viscosity and the Viscosity Index requirements.
> >
> > Further, with the clean air acts and the decreases in sulfur
> > requirements it is becoming a lot harder for the petroleum based
> > fluids to meet the TBN (Total Base Number) requirements of the old
> > 2-cycles - which is listed at a range of 7-10 TBN from the DD 40W
> > chart. Now TBN is really a case where bigger is better. Amsoil's
> TBN
> > is 12.1 for their 15W-40. Total Base Number measures an oil's
> > alkalinity and ability to neutralize acid using lab testing (ASTM D
> > 2896 or D 4739) - acid production is generally considered bad for
> your
> > basic internal combustion engine.
> >
> > Finally, from the Amsoil web site:
> > AMSOIL Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel & Marine Motor Oil is recommended
> > for use in diesel engines and other applications requiring any of
> the
> > listed worldwide specifications and gasoline engines requiring API
> SL,
> > SJ, SH or ACEA A3.
> >
> > * API CI-4+, CF, CF-2, SL
> > * ACEA A3/B3, E2, E3, E5, E7
> > * Global DHD-1
> > * JASO DH-1
> > * Mack EO-N Premium Plus '03
> > * DDC Power Guard 93K214
> > * Caterpillar ECF-1A, ECF-2
> >
> > Now I suppose they could be lying in print, but they probably have
> > lawyers to prevent them from doing that unless they actually can
> prove
> > that they can meet those specs.
> >
> > Anyway, didn't mean to bludgeon the subject. I just wanted to set
> the
> > record straight. Newer doesn't mean bad. Otherwise the API, SAE
> and
> > ASTM testing wouldn't keep evolving. In the old days, if we got
> 100k
> > miles out of a car engine without a re-build it was fantastic. Now
> > (with something at least resembling proper maintenance) people
> > regularly get upwards of 250k. I've never had a Suburban with under
> > 300k when I got rid of it, and they were all running good. Lots of
> > that is due strictly to lubrication advances.
> >
> > FWIW,
> >
> > Mike Bulriss - gene pool still functioning fine thank you
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"- 8V92 running that nasty old Amsoil
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, PM7088@ wrote:
> > >
> > > The gene pool of home mechanics is purified by folks who: Use
> > Amsoil in 2 cycle diesels, install K&N air filters and/or propane
> > injectors and or sill "Chips" that increase their horsepower to the
> > point that pistons melt.
> > >
> > > Pete
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > From: brad barton <bbartonwx@>
> > > I always heard never to use anything but single-weight oil on my
> > 8V92..never multigrade unless in a pinch.
> > > FWIW
> > >
> > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: aamiller@
> > > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:41:17 +0000
> > > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 93 PT-40 for sale in Nashville
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > Do you like Amsoil also? I use the 15w40 heavy duty Marine in the
> > > generator as well as the 8v92 and it is doing a great job. I
> would
> > > like to also switch the transmission fluid but haven't got it
> done
> > > yet. I also use Amsoil in the boys two BMW's, the wife's van, my
> 05
> > > Duramax pickup and in the tractor and mowers as well.
> > >
> > > Alvie Miller
> > > 93 WLWB
> > > Arthur IL
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kurt,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the update. I'm going to change mine over to the
> Amsoil
> > > > equivalent of the Transynd, since I can get that cheaper. 1MPG
> > > > increase is 20%!
> > > >
> > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minvan"
> > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike,
> > > > >
> > > > > I call Prevost and they told me it is Transynd by Castrol.
> > > > > http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/transynd.jsp
> > > > >
> > > > > I also had a level 3 service which replaces all filters. In
> the
> > > > > Allison 6 speed I think there are 3 internal filters and of
> > > course
> > > > > all oil, fuel and air filters. They greased everything that
> could
> > > be
> > > > > grease and it also helped in the braking. I used to get a
> noise
> > > from
> > > > > the front brake that was called normal but it has now quit.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was told when I bought my coach that all the fluid &
> filters
> > > had
> > > > > been changed but I really don't know for sure. But it did not
> > > perform
> > > > > like it does now.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I do know is that I'm up to 5.5 to 6 MPG from 4.5 to 4.8
> > > > > according to the SilverLeaf VMSpc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Call it what you like, it's working for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's something to chew on. I don't know anything about H2O
> > > helping
> > > > > your fuel mileage but I know Propane injection works. On a
> trip
> > > last
> > > > > summer I was at a Flying J in S.W. KY. At the RV island.
> > > > >
> > > > > A trucker in a red and white Peterbuilt pulled in behind me.
> I
> > > > > thought that to strange in itself, so I went back to his
> truck to
> > > > > tell him I was going to be there a while for fuel and
> propane.
> > > > >
> > > > > He told me he was after propane. I asked why and he said he
> had a
> > > > > truck with propane injection and the outfit he drove for was
> > > testing
> > > > > the system on 20 or so trucks. I asked if it was working and
> he
> > > > > professed almost 2.5 MPG up on average.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know about that, but I do know the guy whom works on
> my
> > > Ford
> > > > > Powerstroke has a propane fire diesel pick up that with rip
> and
> > > > > snort, and he's getting better MPG than my truck gets
> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really made
> a
> > > > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth
> > > shifting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HELLO! 1MPG from tranny fluid change!? Hey Kurt, feel free
> to
> > > > > > expound on the tranny fluid change. Synthetic I assume? I
> > > have
> > > > > been
> > > > > > putting that change off for a while since the dino tranny
> fluid
> > > was
> > > > > > fresh, but for 1MPG.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" - in need of a quick cheap 1MPG
> > > upgrade
> > > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well you can tell I've been off the web for a while. My
> > > computers
> > > > > > > were infected by a Trojan virus late in Jan. It took a
> while
> > > and
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > new laptop to fix the problems. I lost a lot of files and
> had
> > > to
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > new credit cards. S.O.B.'s, "and I don't mean, Some Other
> > > Bus" So
> > > > > if
> > > > > > > I repeat any request or post, or stuff you guys have
> already
> > > > > beaten
> > > > > > > to death, forgive me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike your right; I do recall seeing that coach listed for
> a
> > > while
> > > > > > > now. If it's truly a good deal it won't stick around for
> > > long.
> > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > go by Staley's if I have time just to look at her.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Paul, The Indulgence is safe at home and ready for this
> > > weekend's
> > > > > > > trip. I'm taking my daughter and 9 of her friends to
> > > Nashville
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > their Senior Prom. Should be Hoot!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bye the way my coach is not for sale, I like all Birds,
> but
> > > the
> > > > > PT-
> > > > > > > 42's are my favorite flavor, maybe a 43 would due but I
> would
> > > not
> > > > > go
> > > > > > > to a 40 footer of any mfg. Yes you're right I'm spoiled!
> All
> > > I
> > > > > need
> > > > > > > now is a Stacker Trailer that doesn't cost as much as my
> > > coach,
> > > > > so I
> > > > > > > can load it up full of toys and its party time!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I had a full servicing done at Prevost Nashville a few
> months
> > > ago
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > it was well worth the money. All new filters & fluids,
> the
> > > new
> > > > > tranny
> > > > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really made
> a
> > > > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth
> > > shifting.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > > Jake is even smoother and not as radical, the jerking
> upon
> > > > > activation
> > > > > > > has gone away. I'm a very happy camper. The brakes were
> > > checked
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > wear and a full chassis lube, headlights adjusted and new
> > > wiper
> > > > > > > blades. She is ready to roll.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Damn the price of fuel! Full speed ahead!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss"
> > > <mbulriss@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Being rather partial to green coaches, I tend to watch
> for
> > > > > them.
> > > > > > > That
> > > > > > > > one looks really good in the pictures, but it has been
> on
> > > > > > > consignment
> > > > > > > > on Staley's lot for a *long* time. I distinctly
> remember
> > > the
> > > > > > > > (HEADLINER IN FRONT LOUNGE HAS DAMAGE AND NEEDS TO BE
> > > REPAIRED)
> > > > > > > > comment. Odd there are no pictures of the damage. As I
> > > recall,
> > > > > > > > someone went to see it and had posted a rather negative
> > > > > review. I
> > > > > > > > searched for that post but can't find it right now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If someone remembers that post or went to see the
> coach,
> > > please
> > > > > > > update
> > > > > > > > us again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" (lot's of greeeeen, baby)
> > > > > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I ran across this coach will surfing this morning.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I like it but I don't know anything about it's
> history.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The link is listed below
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.staleycoach.com/48350.htm
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live
> > Messenger. Get started!
> > >
> >
>

04-23-2008, 10:15

Leroy,
You can make your own biodiesel for about $1 a gallon. My average
cost per gallon since '05 is about 0.69.

Al Johnson
'96 BMC B100
Mandeville, Louisiana

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert
wrote:
>
> Ok Mike you have set forth your history of use without problems. I
think I will try it. Lets call them and see if they can mass produce
synthetic diesel at about $2 per gallon. Whatayou think?
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote: Oh my
Alvie,
>
> I fear your testimonial will start the great oil debate (once
AGAIN)
> on DD not certifying anything except straight 40W for the 2-cycle
> engines. Maybe we should add multi-weight oil and synthetic oil to
> the list of forbidden topics along with politics and religion!
>
>
> I feel sure someone will be along shortly to explain to you how you
> are going to destroy your engine.
>
> As for me, as I said in post 33039, I grew up in the oil
distributing
> business from a long time ago. Been running Amsoil since 1979. Run
it
> in all my street vehicles, Harleys, John Deere tractors, lawn
> equipment, Birds and my race cars since then. So yeah, I guess I
like
> it also......
>
> LOL!
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"-running on Amsoil like Stagecoach before
her
> San Antonio, TX
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "whynotam"
wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Do you like Amsoil also? I use the 15w40 heavy duty Marine in
the
> > generator as well as the 8v92 and it is doing a great job. I
would
> > like to also switch the transmission fluid but haven't got it
done
> > yet. I also use Amsoil in the boys two BMW's, the wife's van, my
05
> > Duramax pickup and in the tractor and mowers as well.
> >
> > Alvie Miller
> > 93 WLWB
> > Arthur IL
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Kurt,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the update. I'm going to change mine over to the
Amsoil
> > > equivalent of the Transynd, since I can get that cheaper. 1MPG
> > > increase is 20%!
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minvan"
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mike,
> > > >
> > > > I call Prevost and they told me it is Transynd by Castrol.
> > > > http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/transynd.jsp
> > > >
> > > > I also had a level 3 service which replaces all filters. In
the
> > > > Allison 6 speed I think there are 3 internal filters and of
> > course
> > > > all oil, fuel and air filters. They greased everything that
could
> > be
> > > > grease and it also helped in the braking. I used to get a
noise
> > from
> > > > the front brake that was called normal but it has now quit.
> > > >
> > > > I was told when I bought my coach that all the fluid &
filters
> > had
> > > > been changed but I really don't know for sure. But it did
not
> > perform
> > > > like it does now.
> > > >
> > > > What I do know is that I'm up to 5.5 to 6 MPG from 4.5 to
4.8
> > > > according to the SilverLeaf VMSpc.
> > > >
> > > > Call it what you like, it's working for me.
> > > >
> > > > Here's something to chew on. I don't know anything about H2O
> > helping
> > > > your fuel mileage but I know Propane injection works. On a
trip
> > last
> > > > summer I was at a Flying J in S.W. KY. At the RV island.
> > > >
> > > > A trucker in a red and white Peterbuilt pulled in behind me.
I
> > > > thought that to strange in itself, so I went back to his
truck to
> > > > tell him I was going to be there a while for fuel and
propane.
> > > >
> > > > He told me he was after propane. I asked why and he said he
had a
> > > > truck with propane injection and the outfit he drove for was
> > testing
> > > > the system on 20 or so trucks. I asked if it was working and
he
> > > > professed almost 2.5 MPG up on average.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know about that, but I do know the guy whom works on
my
> > Ford
> > > > Powerstroke has a propane fire diesel pick up that with rip
and
> > > > snort, and he's getting better MPG than my truck gets
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really
made a
> > > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth
> > shifting.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > HELLO! 1MPG from tranny fluid change!? Hey Kurt, feel
free to
> > > > > expound on the tranny fluid change. Synthetic I assume?
I
> > have
> > > > been
> > > > > putting that change off for a while since the dino tranny
fluid
> > was
> > > > > fresh, but for 1MPG.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" - in need of a quick cheap 1MPG
> > upgrade
> > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well you can tell I've been off the web for a while. My
> > computers
> > > > > > were infected by a Trojan virus late in Jan. It took a
while
> > and
> > > > a
> > > > > > new laptop to fix the problems. I lost a lot of files
and had
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > new credit cards. S.O.B.'s, "and I don't mean, Some
Other
> > Bus" So
> > > > if
> > > > > > I repeat any request or post, or stuff you guys have
already
> > > > beaten
> > > > > > to death, forgive me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike your right; I do recall seeing that coach listed
for a
> > while
> > > > > > now. If it's truly a good deal it won't stick around for
> > long.
> > > > I'll
> > > > > > go by Staley's if I have time just to look at her.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul, The Indulgence is safe at home and ready for this
> > weekend's
> > > > > > trip. I'm taking my daughter and 9 of her friends to
> > Nashville
> > > > for
> > > > > > their Senior Prom. Should be Hoot!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bye the way my coach is not for sale, I like all Birds,
but
> > the
> > > > PT-
> > > > > > 42's are my favorite flavor, maybe a 43 would due but I
would
> > not
> > > > go
> > > > > > to a 40 footer of any mfg. Yes you're right I'm spoiled!
All
> > I
> > > > need
> > > > > > now is a Stacker Trailer that doesn't cost as much as my
> > coach,
> > > > so I
> > > > > > can load it up full of toys and its party time!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had a full servicing done at Prevost Nashville a few
months
> > ago
> > > > and
> > > > > > it was well worth the money. All new filters & fluids,
the
> > new
> > > > tranny
> > > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really
made a
> > > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth
> > shifting.
> > > > The
> > > > > > Jake is even smoother and not as radical, the jerking
upon
> > > > activation
> > > > > > has gone away. I'm a very happy camper. The brakes were
> > checked
> > > > for
> > > > > > wear and a full chassis lube, headlights adjusted and
new
> > wiper
> > > > > > blades. She is ready to roll.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Damn the price of fuel! Full speed ahead!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss"
> > <mbulriss@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Being rather partial to green coaches, I tend to watch
for
> > > > them.
> > > > > > That
> > > > > > > one looks really good in the pictures, but it has been
on
> > > > > > consignment
> > > > > > > on Staley's lot for a *long* time. I distinctly
remember
> > the
> > > > > > > (HEADLINER IN FRONT LOUNGE HAS DAMAGE AND NEEDS TO BE
> > REPAIRED)
> > > > > > > comment. Odd there are no pictures of the damage. As
I
> > recall,
> > > > > > > someone went to see it and had posted a rather
negative
> > > > review. I
> > > > > > > searched for that post but can't find it right now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If someone remembers that post or went to see the
coach,
> > please
> > > > > > update
> > > > > > > us again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" (lot's of greeeeen, baby)
> > > > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I ran across this coach will surfing this morning.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I like it but I don't know anything about it's
history.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The link is listed below
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.staleycoach.com/48350.htm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.
Try it now.
>

04-23-2008, 10:54

Recently, I have been reading about how to manufacture it, and I have read your previous posts. Unfortunately, I do not have an area to produce the product at this moment. What do you do with the by product, glycerin, I think? And do you water wash the product before you use it?

Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA
Royale Conversion

Al wrote:

Leroy,
You can make your own biodiesel for about $1 a gallon. My average
cost per gallon since '05 is about 0.69.

Al Johnson
'96 BMC
B100
Mandeville, Louisiana

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Leroy Eckert
...> wrote:
>
> Ok Mike you have set forth your history of use without problems. I
think I will try it. Lets call them and see if they can mass produce
synthetic diesel at about $2 per gallon. Whatayou think?
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> mbulriss <mbulriss@..<wbr>.> wrote: Oh my
Alvie,
>
> I fear your testimonial will start the great oil debate (once
AGAIN)
> on DD not certifying anything except straight 40W for the 2-cycle
> engines. Maybe we should add multi-weight oil and synthetic oil to
> the list of forbidden topics along with politics and religion!
>
>
> I feel sure someone will be along shortly to explain to you how you
> are going to destroy your engine.
>
> As for me, as I said in post 33039, I grew up in the oil
distributing
> business from a long time ago. Been running Amsoil since 1979. Run
it
> in all my street vehicles, Harleys, John Deere tractors, lawn
> equipment, Birds and my race cars since then. So yeah, I guess I
like
> it also......
>
> LOL!
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"-running on Amsoil like Stagecoach before
her
> San Antonio, TX
>
> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "whynotam"
wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > Do you like Amsoil also? I use the 15w40 heavy duty Marine in

the
> > generator as well as the 8v92 and it is doing a great job. I
would
> > like to also switch the transmission fluid but haven't got it
done
> > yet. I also use Amsoil in the boys two BMW's, the wife's van, my
05
> > Duramax pickup and in the tractor and mowers as well.
> >
> > Alvie Miller
> > 93 WLWB
> > Arthur IL
> >
> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Kurt,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the update. I'm going to change mine over to the
Amsoil
> > > equivalent of the Transynd, since I can get that cheaper. 1MPG
> > > increase is 20%!
> > >
> > > Mike Bulriss
> > > 1991
WB40 "Texas Minvan"
> > > San Antonio, TX
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mike,
> > > >
> > > > I call Prevost and they told me it is Transynd by Castrol.
> > > > http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/transynd.jsp
> > > >
> > > > I also had a level 3 service which replaces all filters. In
the
> > > > Allison 6 speed I think there are 3 internal filters and of
> > course
> > > > all oil, fuel and air filters. They greased everything that
could
> > be
> > > > grease and it also helped in the braking. I used to get a
noise
> > from
> > > > the front brake that was called normal but it has now quit.
> > > >
> > > > I was told when I bought my coach that all the fluid &
filters
> > had
> > > > been changed but I really don't know for sure. But it did
not
> > perform
> > > > like it does now.
> > > >
> > > > What I do know is that I'm up to 5.5 to 6 MPG from 4.5 to
4.8
> > > > according to the SilverLeaf VMSpc.
> > > >
> > > > Call it what you like, it's working for me.
> > > >
> > > > Here's something to chew on. I don't know anything about H2O
> > helping
> > > > your fuel mileage but I know Propane injection works. On
a
trip
> > last
> > > > summer I was at a Flying J in S.W. KY. At the RV island.
> > > >
> > > > A trucker in a red and white Peterbuilt pulled in behind me.
I
> > > > thought that to strange in itself, so I went back to his
truck to
> > > > tell him I was going to be there a while for fuel and
propane.
> > > >
> > > > He told me he was after propane. I asked why and he said he
had a
> > > > truck with propane injection and the outfit he drove for was
> > testing
> > > > the system on 20 or so trucks. I asked if it was working and
he
> > > > professed almost 2.5 MPG up on average.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know about that, but I do know the guy whom works on
my
> > Ford
> > >
> Powerstroke has a propane fire diesel pick up that with rip
and
> > > > snort, and he's getting better MPG than my truck gets
> > > >
> > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss" <mbulriss@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really
made a
> > > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super
smooth
> > shifting.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > HELLO! 1MPG from tranny fluid change!? Hey Kurt, feel
free to
> > > > > expound on the tranny fluid change. Synthetic I assume?
I
> > have
> > > > been
> > > > > putting that change off for a while since the dino tranny
fluid
> > was
> > > > > fresh, but for 1MPG.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" - in need of a quick cheap 1MPG
> > upgrade
> > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well you can tell I've been off the web for a while. My
> > computers
> > > > > > were infected by a Trojan virus late in Jan. It took a
while
> > and
> > > > a
> > > > > > new laptop to fix the problems. I lost a lot of files
and had
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > > new credit cards. S.O.B.'s, "and I don't mean, Some
Other
> > Bus" So
> > > > if
> > > > > > I repeat any request or post, or stuff you guys have
already
> > > > beaten
> > > > > >
to death, forgive me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike your right; I do recall seeing that coach listed
for a
> > while
> > > > > > now. If it's truly a good deal it won't stick around for
> > long.
> > > > I'll
> > > > > > go by Staley's if I have time just to look at her.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul, The Indulgence is safe at home and ready for this
> > weekend's
> > > > > > trip. I'm taking my daughter and 9 of her friends to
> > Nashville
> > > > for
> > > > > > their Senior Prom. Should be Hoot!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bye the way my coach is not for sale, I like all Birds,
but
> > the
> > > > PT-
> >
> > > > 42's are my favorite flavor, maybe a 43 would due but I
would
> > not
> > > > go
> > > > > > to a 40 footer of any mfg. Yes you're right I'm spoiled!
All
> > I
> > > > need
> > > > > > now is a Stacker Trailer that doesn't cost as much as my
> > coach,
> > > > so I
> > > > > > can load it up full of toys and its party time!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had a full servicing done at Prevost Nashville a few
months
> > ago
> > > > and
> > > > > > it was well worth the money. All new filters & fluids,
the
> > new
> > > > tranny
> > > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really
made a
> > >
> > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth
> > shifting.
> > > > The
> > > > > > Jake is even smoother and not as radical, the jerking
upon
> > > > activation
> > > > > > has gone away. I'm a very happy camper. The brakes were
> > checked
> > > > for
> > > > > > wear and a full chassis lube, headlights adjusted and
new
> > wiper
> > > > > > blades. She is ready to roll.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Damn the price of fuel! Full speed ahead!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >

> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss"
> > <mbulriss@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Being rather partial to green coaches, I tend to watch
for
> > > > them.
> > > > > > That
> > > > > > > one looks really good in the pictures, but it has been
on
> > > > > > consignment
> > > > > > > on Staley's lot for a *long* time. I distinctly
remember
> > the
> > > > > > > (HEADLINER IN FRONT LOUNGE HAS DAMAGE AND NEEDS TO BE
> > REPAIRED)
> > > > > > > comment. Odd there are no pictures of the damage. As
I
> > recall,
> > > > > > > someone went to see it and had posted a rather
negative
> > > > review. I
> > > > > > > searched for that post but can't find it right now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If someone remembers that post or went to see the
coach,
> > please
> > > > > > update
> > > > > > > us again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" (lot's of greeeeen, baby)
> > > > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
"bumpersbird"
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I ran across this coach will surfing this morning.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I like it but I don't know anything about it's
history.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The link is listed below
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.staleycoach.com/48350.htm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
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I am using a Biopro 380 now so the system is very compact. It uses
an acid / base process and utilizes a water wash / dry process. The
system is totally automated and requires about 30 min a day of my
time now. I am trying to put together a commercial biodiesel plant
now doing all the studies and will be looking for investors soon to
get it rolling by end of the year. Government incentives thru 2015
so the numbers look good. I am ready to take my hobby to the next
level if I can get all the stars to line up.

As far as glycerin, I am stock piling it now. It can be used to
produce soap, make compost, engine cleaner, burned in incinator and
weed killer. Research is being done now and they hope to develop a
process to utilize for making ethanol. I am really excited about
that. Currently the market has so much of it that it is priced very
low. As a hobbist, I don't produce enough that a commercial buyer
would want.

Al Johnson
'96 BMC B100
Mandeville, Louisiana

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert
wrote:
>
> Recently, I have been reading about how to manufacture it, and I
have read your previous posts. Unfortunately, I do not have an area
to produce the product at this moment. What do you do with the by
product, glycerin, I think? And do you water wash the product before
you use it?
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> Al wrote: Leroy,
> You can make your own biodiesel for about $1 a gallon. My
average
> cost per gallon since '05 is about 0.69.
>
> Al Johnson
> '96 BMC B100
> Mandeville, Louisiana
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Leroy Eckert
> wrote:
> >
> > Ok Mike you have set forth your history of use without problems.
I
> think I will try it. Lets call them and see if they can mass
produce
> synthetic diesel at about $2 per gallon. Whatayou think?
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> > Dahlonega, GA
> > Royale Conversion
> >
> > mbulriss <mbulriss@> wrote: Oh my
> Alvie,
> >
> > I fear your testimonial will start the great oil debate (once
> AGAIN)
> > on DD not certifying anything except straight 40W for the 2-
cycle
> > engines. Maybe we should add multi-weight oil and synthetic
oil to
> > the list of forbidden topics along with politics and religion!
> >
> >
> > I feel sure someone will be along shortly to explain to you how
you
> > are going to destroy your engine.
> >
> > As for me, as I said in post 33039, I grew up in the oil
> distributing
> > business from a long time ago. Been running Amsoil since 1979.
Run
> it
> > in all my street vehicles, Harleys, John Deere tractors, lawn
> > equipment, Birds and my race cars since then. So yeah, I guess
I
> like
> > it also......
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"-running on Amsoil like Stagecoach
before
> her
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "whynotam"
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > Do you like Amsoil also? I use the 15w40 heavy duty Marine in
> the
> > > generator as well as the 8v92 and it is doing a great job. I
> would
> > > like to also switch the transmission fluid but haven't got it
> done
> > > yet. I also use Amsoil in the boys two BMW's, the wife's van,
my
> 05
> > > Duramax pickup and in the tractor and mowers as well.
> > >
> > > Alvie Miller
> > > 93 WLWB
> > > Arthur IL
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss"
<mbulriss@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kurt,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the update. I'm going to change mine over to
the
> Amsoil
> > > > equivalent of the Transynd, since I can get that cheaper.
1MPG
> > > > increase is 20%!
> > > >
> > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minvan"
> > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike,
> > > > >
> > > > > I call Prevost and they told me it is Transynd by
Castrol.
> > > > > http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/transynd.jsp
> > > > >
> > > > > I also had a level 3 service which replaces all filters.
In
> the
> > > > > Allison 6 speed I think there are 3 internal filters and
of
> > > course
> > > > > all oil, fuel and air filters. They greased everything
that
> could
> > > be
> > > > > grease and it also helped in the braking. I used to get a
> noise
> > > from
> > > > > the front brake that was called normal but it has now
quit.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was told when I bought my coach that all the fluid &
> filters
> > > had
> > > > > been changed but I really don't know for sure. But it did
> not
> > > perform
> > > > > like it does now.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I do know is that I'm up to 5.5 to 6 MPG from 4.5 to
> 4.8
> > > > > according to the SilverLeaf VMSpc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Call it what you like, it's working for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's something to chew on. I don't know anything about
H2O
> > > helping
> > > > > your fuel mileage but I know Propane injection works. On
a
> trip
> > > last
> > > > > summer I was at a Flying J in S.W. KY. At the RV island.
> > > > >
> > > > > A trucker in a red and white Peterbuilt pulled in behind
me.
> I
> > > > > thought that to strange in itself, so I went back to his
> truck to
> > > > > tell him I was going to be there a while for fuel and
> propane.
> > > > >
> > > > > He told me he was after propane. I asked why and he said
he
> had a
> > > > > truck with propane injection and the outfit he drove for
was
> > > testing
> > > > > the system on 20 or so trucks. I asked if it was working
and
> he
> > > > > professed almost 2.5 MPG up on average.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know about that, but I do know the guy whom works
on
> my
> > > Ford
> > > > > Powerstroke has a propane fire diesel pick up that with
rip
> and
> > > > > snort, and he's getting better MPG than my truck gets
> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss"
<mbulriss@>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really
> made a
> > > > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth
> > > shifting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HELLO! 1MPG from tranny fluid change!? Hey Kurt,
feel
> free to
> > > > > > expound on the tranny fluid change. Synthetic I
assume?
> I
> > > have
> > > > > been
> > > > > > putting that change off for a while since the dino
tranny
> fluid
> > > was
> > > > > > fresh, but for 1MPG.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" - in need of a quick cheap
1MPG
> > > upgrade
> > > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well you can tell I've been off the web for a while.
My
> > > computers
> > > > > > > were infected by a Trojan virus late in Jan. It took
a
> while
> > > and
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > new laptop to fix the problems. I lost a lot of files
> and had
> > > to
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > new credit cards. S.O.B.'s, "and I don't mean, Some
> Other
> > > Bus" So
> > > > > if
> > > > > > > I repeat any request or post, or stuff you guys have
> already
> > > > > beaten
> > > > > > > to death, forgive me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike your right; I do recall seeing that coach listed
> for a
> > > while
> > > > > > > now. If it's truly a good deal it won't stick around
for
> > > long.
> > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > go by Staley's if I have time just to look at her.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Paul, The Indulgence is safe at home and ready for
this
> > > weekend's
> > > > > > > trip. I'm taking my daughter and 9 of her friends to
> > > Nashville
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > their Senior Prom. Should be Hoot!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bye the way my coach is not for sale, I like all
Birds,
> but
> > > the
> > > > > PT-
> > > > > > > 42's are my favorite flavor, maybe a 43 would due but
I
> would
> > > not
> > > > > go
> > > > > > > to a 40 footer of any mfg. Yes you're right I'm
spoiled!
> All
> > > I
> > > > > need
> > > > > > > now is a Stacker Trailer that doesn't cost as much as
my
> > > coach,
> > > > > so I
> > > > > > > can load it up full of toys and its party time!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I had a full servicing done at Prevost Nashville a
few
> months
> > > ago
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > it was well worth the money. All new filters &
fluids,
> the
> > > new
> > > > > tranny
> > > > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really
> made a
> > > > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth
> > > shifting.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > > Jake is even smoother and not as radical, the jerking
> upon
> > > > > activation
> > > > > > > has gone away. I'm a very happy camper. The brakes
were
> > > checked
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > wear and a full chassis lube, headlights adjusted and
> new
> > > wiper
> > > > > > > blades. She is ready to roll.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Damn the price of fuel! Full speed ahead!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss"
> > > <mbulriss@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Being rather partial to green coaches, I tend to
watch
> for
> > > > > them.
> > > > > > > That
> > > > > > > > one looks really good in the pictures, but it has
been
> on
> > > > > > > consignment
> > > > > > > > on Staley's lot for a *long* time. I distinctly
> remember
> > > the
> > > > > > > > (HEADLINER IN FRONT LOUNGE HAS DAMAGE AND NEEDS TO
BE
> > > REPAIRED)
> > > > > > > > comment. Odd there are no pictures of the damage.
As
> I
> > > recall,
> > > > > > > > someone went to see it and had posted a rather
> negative
> > > > > review. I
> > > > > > > > searched for that post but can't find it right now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If someone remembers that post or went to see the
> coach,
> > > please
> > > > > > > update
> > > > > > > > us again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" (lot's of greeeeen,
baby)
> > > > > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bumpersbird"
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I ran across this coach will surfing this morning.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I like it but I don't know anything about it's
> history.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The link is listed below
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.staleycoach.com/48350.htm
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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04-23-2008, 16:14

Al,

What are you using as feedstock for your biodiesel production?

Regards,

Dorn Hetzel
77FC35
Flat Creek Campground, Hogansville, GA

On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Al <"al@pcambulance.net"> wrote:

I am using a Biopro 380 now so the system is very compact. It uses

an acid / base process and utilizes a water wash / dry process. The

system is totally automated and requires about 30 min a day of my

time now. I am trying to put together a commercial biodiesel plant

now doing all the studies and will be looking for investors soon to

get it rolling by end of the year. Government incentives thru 2015

so the numbers look good. I am ready to take my hobby to the next

level if I can get all the stars to line up.

As far as glycerin, I am stock piling it now. It can be used to

produce soap, make compost, engine cleaner, burned in incinator and

weed killer. Research is being done now and they hope to develop a

process to utilize for making ethanol. I am really excited about

that. Currently the market has so much of it that it is priced very

low. As a hobbist, I don't produce enough that a commercial buyer

would want.

Al Johnson

'96 BMC B100

Mandeville, Louisiana

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Leroy Eckert

wrote:

>

> Recently, I have been reading about how to manufacture it, and I

have read your previous posts. Unfortunately, I do not have an area

to produce the product at this moment. What do you do with the by

product, glycerin, I think? And do you water wash the product before

you use it?

>

> Leroy Eckert

> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors

> Dahlonega, GA

> Royale Conversion

>

> Al wrote: Leroy,

> You can make your own biodiesel for about $1 a gallon. My

average

> cost per gallon since '05 is about 0.69.

>

> Al Johnson

> '96 BMC B100

> Mandeville, Louisiana

>

> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Leroy Eckert

> wrote:

> >

> > Ok Mike you have set forth your history of use without problems.

I

> think I will try it. Lets call them and see if they can mass

produce

> synthetic diesel at about $2 per gallon. Whatayou think?

> >

> > Leroy Eckert

> > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors

> > Dahlonega, GA

> > Royale Conversion

> >

> > mbulriss <mbulriss@> wrote: Oh my

> Alvie,

> >

> > I fear your testimonial will start the great oil debate (once

> AGAIN)

> > on DD not certifying anything except straight 40W for the 2-

cycle

> > engines. Maybe we should add multi-weight oil and synthetic

oil to

> > the list of forbidden topics along with politics and religion!

> >

> >

> > I feel sure someone will be along shortly to explain to you how

you

> > are going to destroy your engine.

> >

> > As for me, as I said in post 33039, I grew up in the oil

> distributing

> > business from a long time ago. Been running Amsoil since 1979.

Run

> it

> > in all my street vehicles, Harleys, John Deere tractors, lawn

> > equipment, Birds and my race cars since then. So yeah, I guess

I

> like

> > it also......

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > Mike Bulriss

> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"-running on Amsoil like Stagecoach

before

> her

> > San Antonio, TX

> >

> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "whynotam"

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Mike,

> > >

> > > Do you like Amsoil also? I use the 15w40 heavy duty Marine in

> the

> > > generator as well as the 8v92 and it is doing a great job. I

> would

> > > like to also switch the transmission fluid but haven't got it

> done

> > > yet. I also use Amsoil in the boys two BMW's, the wife's van,

my

> 05

> > > Duramax pickup and in the tractor and mowers as well.

> > >

> > > Alvie Miller

> > > 93 WLWB

> > > Arthur IL

> > >

> > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss"

<mbulriss@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Kurt,

> > > >

> > > > Thanks for the update. I'm going to change mine over to

the

> Amsoil

> > > > equivalent of the Transynd, since I can get that cheaper.

1MPG

> > > > increase is 20%!

> > > >

> > > > Mike Bulriss

> > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minvan"

> > > > San Antonio, TX

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mike,

> > > > >

> > > > > I call Prevost and they told me it is Transynd by

Castrol.

> > > > > http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/transynd.jsp

> > > > >

> > > > > I also had a level 3 service which replaces all filters.

In

> the

> > > > > Allison 6 speed I think there are 3 internal filters and

of

> > > course

> > > > > all oil, fuel and air filters. They greased everything

that

> could

> > > be

> > > > > grease and it also helped in the braking. I used to get a

> noise

> > > from

> > > > > the front brake that was called normal but it has now

quit.

> > > > >

> > > > > I was told when I bought my coach that all the fluid &

> filters

> > > had

> > > > > been changed but I really don't know for sure. But it did

> not

> > > perform

> > > > > like it does now.

> > > > >

> > > > > What I do know is that I'm up to 5.5 to 6 MPG from 4.5 to

> 4.8

> > > > > according to the SilverLeaf VMSpc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Call it what you like, it's working for me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here's something to chew on. I don't know anything about

H2O

> > > helping

> > > > > your fuel mileage but I know Propane injection works. On

a

> trip

> > > last

> > > > > summer I was at a Flying J in S.W. KY. At the RV island.

> > > > >

> > > > > A trucker in a red and white Peterbuilt pulled in behind

me.

> I

> > > > > thought that to strange in itself, so I went back to his

> truck to

> > > > > tell him I was going to be there a while for fuel and

> propane.

> > > > >

> > > > > He told me he was after propane. I asked why and he said

he

> had a

> > > > > truck with propane injection and the outfit he drove for

was

> > > testing

> > > > > the system on 20 or so trucks. I asked if it was working

and

> he

> > > > > professed almost 2.5 MPG up on average.

> > > > >

> > > > > I don't know about that, but I do know the guy whom works

on

> my

> > > Ford

> > > > > Powerstroke has a propane fire diesel pick up that with

rip

> and

> > > > > snort, and he's getting better MPG than my truck gets

> > > > >

> > > > > Kurt Horvath

> > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss"

<mbulriss@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really

> made a

> > > > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth

> > > shifting.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > HELLO! 1MPG from tranny fluid change!? Hey Kurt,

feel

> free to

> > > > > > expound on the tranny fluid change. Synthetic I

assume?

> I

> > > have

> > > > > been

> > > > > > putting that change off for a while since the dino

tranny

> fluid

> > > was

> > > > > > fresh, but for 1MPG.....

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mike Bulriss

> > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" - in need of a quick cheap

1MPG

> > > upgrade

> > > > > > San Antonio, TX

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Well you can tell I've been off the web for a while.

My

> > > computers

> > > > > > > were infected by a Trojan virus late in Jan. It took

a

> while

> > > and

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > new laptop to fix the problems. I lost a lot of files

> and had

> > > to

> > > > > get

> > > > > > > new credit cards. S.O.B.'s, "and I don't mean, Some

> Other

> > > Bus" So

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > I repeat any request or post, or stuff you guys have

> already

> > > > > beaten

> > > > > > > to death, forgive me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mike your right; I do recall seeing that coach listed

> for a

> > > while

> > > > > > > now. If it's truly a good deal it won't stick around

for

> > > long.

> > > > > I'll

> > > > > > > go by Staley's if I have time just to look at her.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Paul, The Indulgence is safe at home and ready for

this

> > > weekend's

> > > > > > > trip. I'm taking my daughter and 9 of her friends to

> > > Nashville

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > their Senior Prom. Should be Hoot!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bye the way my coach is not for sale, I like all

Birds,

> but

> > > the

> > > > > PT-

> > > > > > > 42's are my favorite flavor, maybe a 43 would due but

I

> would

> > > not

> > > > > go

> > > > > > > to a 40 footer of any mfg. Yes you're right I'm

spoiled!

> All

> > > I

> > > > > need

> > > > > > > now is a Stacker Trailer that doesn't cost as much as

my

> > > coach,

> > > > > so I

> > > > > > > can load it up full of toys and its party time!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I had a full servicing done at Prevost Nashville a

few

> months

> > > ago

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > it was well worth the money. All new filters &

fluids,

> the

> > > new

> > > > > tranny

> > > > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really

> made a

> > > > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth

> > > shifting.

> > > > > The

> > > > > > > Jake is even smoother and not as radical, the jerking

> upon

> > > > > activation

> > > > > > > has gone away. I'm a very happy camper. The brakes

were

> > > checked

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > wear and a full chassis lube, headlights adjusted and

> new

> > > wiper

> > > > > > > blades. She is ready to roll.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Kurt Horvath

> > > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Damn the price of fuel! Full speed ahead!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss"

> > > <mbulriss@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Being rather partial to green coaches, I tend to

watch

> for

> > > > > them.

> > > > > > > That

> > > > > > > > one looks really good in the pictures, but it has

been

> on

> > > > > > > consignment

> > > > > > > > on Staley's lot for a *long* time. I distinctly

> remember

> > > the

> > > > > > > > (HEADLINER IN FRONT LOUNGE HAS DAMAGE AND NEEDS TO

BE

> > > REPAIRED)

> > > > > > > > comment. Odd there are no pictures of the damage.

As

> I

> > > recall,

> > > > > > > > someone went to see it and had posted a rather

> negative

> > > > > review. I

> > > > > > > > searched for that post but can't find it right now.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If someone remembers that post or went to see the

> coach,

> > > please

> > > > > > > update

> > > > > > > > us again.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mike Bulriss

> > > > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" (lot's of greeeeen,

baby)

> > > > > > > > San Antonio, TX

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

"WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I ran across this coach will surfing this morning.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I like it but I don't know anything about it's

> history.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The link is listed below

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > http://www.staleycoach.com/48350.htm

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Kurt Horvath

> > > > > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

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Mobile.

> Try it now.

> >

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04-24-2008, 00:18

Al, I have wondered since your first mention of this fuel if you take a long trip- where do you supplement it or can you use regular fuel as needed also? Maury 80 FC 31'

----- Original Message -----

From: "al@pcambulance.net"

To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:40 PM

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 93 PT-40 for sale in Nashville

I am using a Biopro 380 now so the system is very compact. It uses
an acid / base process and utilizes a water wash / dry process. The
system is totally automated and requires about 30 min a day of my
time now. I am trying to put together a commercial biodiesel plant
now doing all the studies and will be looking for investors soon to
get it rolling by end of the year. Government incentives thru 2015
so the numbers look good. I am ready to take my hobby to the next
level if I can get all the stars to line up.

As far as glycerin, I am stock piling it now. It can be used to
produce soap, make compost, engine cleaner, burned in incinator and
weed killer. Research is being done now and they hope to develop a
process to utilize for making ethanol. I am really excited about
that. Currently the market has so much of it that it is priced very
low. As a hobbist, I don't produce enough that a commercial buyer
would want.

Al Johnson
'96 BMC B100
Mandeville, Louisiana

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Leroy Eckert
...> wrote:
>
> Recently, I have been reading about how to manufacture it, and I
have read your previous posts. Unfortunately, I do not have an area
to produce the product at this moment. What do you do with the by
product, glycerin, I think? And do you water wash the product before
you use it?
>
> Leroy Eckert
> 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> Dahlonega, GA
> Royale Conversion
>
> Al wrote: Leroy,
> You can make your own biodiesel for about $1 a gallon. My
average
> cost per gallon since '05 is about 0.69.
>
> Al Johnson
> '96 BMC B100
> Mandeville, Louisiana
>
> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Leroy Eckert
> > wrote:
> >
> > Ok Mike you have set forth your history of use without problems.
I
> think I will try it. Lets call them and see if they can mass
produce
> synthetic diesel at about $2 per gallon. Whatayou think?
> >
> > Leroy Eckert
> > 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
> > Dahlonega, GA
> > Royale Conversion
> >
> > mbulriss <mbulriss@> wrote: Oh my
> Alvie,
> >
> > I fear your testimonial will start the great oil debate (once
> AGAIN)
> > on DD not certifying anything except straight 40W for the 2-
cycle
> > engines. Maybe we should add multi-weight oil and synthetic
oil to
> > the list of forbidden topics along with politics and religion!
> >
> >
> > I feel sure someone will be along shortly to explain to you how
you
> > are going to destroy your engine.
> >
> > As for me, as I said in post 33039, I grew up in the oil
> distributing
> > business from a long time ago. Been running Amsoil since 1979.
Run
> it
> > in all my street vehicles, Harleys, John Deere tractors, lawn
> > equipment, Birds and my race cars since then. So yeah, I guess
I
> like
> > it also......
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > Mike Bulriss
> > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"-running on Amsoil like Stagecoach
before
> her
> > San Antonio, TX
> >
> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "whynotam"
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > Do you like Amsoil also? I use the 15w40 heavy duty Marine in
> the
> > > generator as well as the 8v92 and it is doing a great job. I
> would
> > > like to also switch the transmission fluid but haven't got it
> done
> > > yet. I also use Amsoil in the boys two BMW's, the wife's van,
my
> 05
> > > Duramax pickup and in the tractor and mowers as well.
> > >
> > > Alvie Miller
> > > 93 WLWB
> > > Arthur IL
> > >
> > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss"
<mbulriss@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kurt,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the update. I'm going to change mine over to
the
> Amsoil
> > > > equivalent of the Transynd, since I can get that cheaper.
1MPG
> > > > increase is 20%!
> > > >
> > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minvan"
> > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike,
> > > > >
> > > > > I call Prevost and they told me it is Transynd by
Castrol.
> > > > > http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/transynd.jsp
> > > > >
> > > > > I also had a level 3 service which replaces all filters.
In
> the
> > > > > Allison 6 speed I think there are 3 internal filters and
of
> > > course
> > > > > all oil, fuel and air filters. They greased everything
that
> could
> > > be
> > > > > grease and it also helped in the braking. I used to get a
> noise
> > > from
> > > > > the front brake that was called normal but it has now
quit.
> > > > >
> > > > > I was told when I bought my coach that all the fluid &
> filters
> > > had
> > > > > been changed but I really don't know for sure. But it did
> not
> > > perform
> > > > > like it does now.
> > > > >
> > > > > What I do know is that I'm up to 5.5 to 6 MPG from 4.5 to
> 4.8
> > > > > according to the SilverLeaf VMSpc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Call it what you like, it's working for me.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's something to chew on. I don't know anything about
H2O
> > > helping
> > > > > your fuel mileage but I know Propane injection works. On
a
> trip
> > > last
> > > > > summer I was at a Flying J in S.W. KY. At the RV island.
> > > > >
> > > > > A trucker in a red and white Peterbuilt pulled in behind
me.
> I
> > > > > thought that to strange in itself, so I went back to his
> truck to
> > > > > tell him I was going to be there a while for fuel and
> propane.
> > > > >
> > > > > He told me he was after propane. I asked why and he said
he
> had a
> > > > > truck with propane injection and the outfit he drove for
was
> > > testing
> > > > > the system on 20 or so trucks. I asked if it was working
and
> he
> > > > > professed almost 2.5 MPG up on average.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know about that, but I do know the guy whom works
on
> my
> > > Ford
> > > > > Powerstroke has a propane fire diesel pick up that with
rip
> and
> > > > > snort, and he's getting better MPG than my truck gets
> > > > >
> > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss"
<mbulriss@>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really
> made a
> > > > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth
> > > shifting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HELLO! 1MPG from tranny fluid change!? Hey Kurt,
feel
> free to
> > > > > > expound on the tranny fluid change. Synthetic I
assume?
> I
> > > have
> > > > > been
> > > > > > putting that change off for a while since the dino
tranny
> fluid
> > > was
> > > > > > fresh, but for 1MPG.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" - in need of a quick cheap
1MPG
> > > upgrade
> > > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well you can tell I've been off the web for a while.
My
> > > computers
> > > > > > > were infected by a Trojan virus late in Jan. It took
a
> while
> > > and
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > new laptop to fix the problems. I lost a lot of files
> and had
> > > to
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > new credit cards. S.O.B.'s, "and I don't mean, Some
> Other
> > > Bus" So
> > > > > if
> > > > > > > I repeat any request or post, or stuff you guys have
> already
> > > > > beaten
> > > > > > > to death, forgive me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike your right; I do recall seeing that coach listed
> for a
> > > while
> > > > > > > now. If it's truly a good deal it won't stick around
for
> > > long.
> > > > > I'll
> > > > > > > go by Staley's if I have time just to look at her.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Paul, The Indulgence is safe at home and ready for
this
> > > weekend's
> > > > > > > trip. I'm taking my daughter and 9 of her friends to
> > > Nashville
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > their Senior Prom. Should be Hoot!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bye the way my coach is not for sale, I like all
Birds,
> but
> > > the
> > > > > PT-
> > > > > > > 42's are my favorite flavor, maybe a 43 would due but
I
> would
> > > not
> > > > > go
> > > > > > > to a 40 footer of any mfg. Yes you're right I'm
spoiled!
> All
> > > I
> > > > > need
> > > > > > > now is a Stacker Trailer that doesn't cost as much as
my
> > > coach,
> > > > > so I
> > > > > > > can load it up full of toys and its party time!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I had a full servicing done at Prevost Nashville a
few
> months
> > > ago
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > it was well worth the money. All new filters &
fluids,
> the
> > > new
> > > > > tranny
> > > > > > > filters and the high grade transmission fluid really
> made a
> > > > > > > difference, about a mile per gallon and super smooth
> > > shifting.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > > Jake is even smoother and not as radical, the jerking
> upon
> > > > > activation
> > > > > > > has gone away. I'm a very happy camper. The brakes
were
> > > checked
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > wear and a full chassis lube, headlights adjusted and
> new
> > > wiper
> > > > > > > blades. She is ready to roll.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Damn the price of fuel! Full speed ahead!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "mbulriss"
> > > <mbulriss@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Being rather partial to green coaches, I tend to
watch
> for
> > > > > them.
> > > > > > > That
> > > > > > > > one looks really good in the pictures, but it has
been
> on
> > > > > > > consignment
> > > > > > > > on Staley's lot for a *long* time. I distinctly
> remember
> > > the
> > > > > > > > (HEADLINER IN FRONT LOUNGE HAS DAMAGE AND NEEDS TO
BE
> > > REPAIRED)
> > > > > > > > comment. Odd there are no pictures of the damage.
As
> I
> > > recall,
> > > > > > > > someone went to see it and had posted a rather
> negative
> > > > > review. I
> > > > > > > > searched for that post but can't find it right now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If someone remembers that post or went to see the
> coach,
> > > please
> > > > > > > update
> > > > > > > > us again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mike Bulriss
> > > > > > > > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" (lot's of greeeeen,
baby)
> > > > > > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In
"WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I ran across this coach will surfing this morning.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I like it but I don't know anything about it's
> history.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The link is listed below
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > http://www.staleycoach.com/48350.htm
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Kurt Horvath
> > > > > > > > > 95 PT-42 WLWB
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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