88' 8v92 NC 50grand

[brad barton]

And you all thought the thread about CDL's would never quit. Start insulting someone's newer high-dollar coaches..and we'll need more band-width.



In defense of Dave and Me with newish LXi's, I saw an '06 BB at the Dallas RV show last February on the very day we went out to Mr. Olivers and laid eyes on our current coach the first time. Blue Bird has fallen on hard times before and been forced to make some compromises. While the '06 Bird had four slides and stunning decor, it had no natural woodwork- just premium laminate on plywood. All seatswere ultraleather. '99-'02 coaches were regularly over $700K. This "new" one was $541K. Loss leader? Not by that much. I asked the rep what the best years were. He said the 80's and early 90's were outstanding but the first slide-coaches and ALL M380s had serious design flaws and quality (esp electric) issues. He said the last (I swear this is true..and he said this before I even saw mine)trulyelegant coachesfrom thepre LBO designers and decision makers whoworked with Henry Luce, were '99 through '02. But we've certainly found some design flaws in our coach. I wish Complete Coachworks nothing but the best re-establishing the superior reputation of Wanderlodge.



Quick update on two maintenance items. I had entry-step trouble..stuttering in and out when the door was opened. Turns out one of three switches was weak in the spring and the leather interior hinge-cover was contacting that plunger switch when the door went past 90 degrees..causing that one switch to pull it in again. Seems to be working now. When in doubt, clean, lube and stretch out the spring. And the microphor toilet problems that plagued us for a year can be traced (I hope) to a failing pressure relief valve under the powder room lavatory. Ryan had a new one that was actually a newer design less prone to failure than the rubber pinhole design Blue Bird put in. Valves and Switches.

BradBarton00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...

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To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: dmb993@...
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 22:58:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 88' 8v92 NC 50grand

Bruce,

The only one's obsessed with the value of BB's are the buyers
on this board looking to steal a bird. As far as the newer birds
being of lesser quality, well, that sounds like sour grapes to me.

Best regards,
David
'02 LXi, NC

birdshill123 wrote:

I will be the discenter(sp) in this discussion. Why are so many BB
owners so uptight on the value of their Bird. If you are not going to
sell it does not matter if it is worth a million or one peso! These
are not investment grade works of art. As for those who somehow
think their 8 year old Brd is worth 50% of new. Dream on. To quote
the sales mfgr. of a large rv dealership: Big Iron is not selling.
They are giving very little for trades and some dealers are selling
DP's at a loss. The market value for many MH's has dropped 20 % in
just a few months. These are not BB's but as others have mentioned BB
buyers are few and far between. The factory has a couple of units
that have been there a long time with no takers. Same with Bleakely.
Of course they want way too much. I just gave up looking for another
Bird because the sellers, especially some private sellers are
expecting huge returns. $325 for a one slide 2001 LXI is ridiculous.
$175 for a nice ( not extra nice) 98 LXI is also way too high. The
market has just begun to drop for RV's and will drop even further
this summer. All this being said there are very good reasons for
buying a BB. But they do not appeal to everyone. If one has to be
convinced to buy a Bird they are not true BB people. A real potential
BB owner should see the quality right away. Nothing else deserves a
comparison. Period! I will add this: After looking at 98 and up
units: They pale beside the other 90's units. I think the quality
lessened. I saw design and build flaws on some units that do not
exist on the pre 98's. The newer they are the worse they are. That is
my opinion.

Bruce
1988 FC35

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[Terry Neal]

I always wanted a Blue Bird John. Even back in the day...

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92TA

74FC34 6V53T











bubblerboy64 wrote:







Ernie, You know what sells? Sex sells, if you look at MH's in that





light the new plastic palaces's are appealing. You have to have some 



experience and some age to want a BB. Most BB owners are older guys 



and the younger owners are experienced beyond their years. If I put 



myself back 35 years I can't see me wanting an old BB. 







John Heckman



central Pa



1973 FC



>



> In a message dated 5/14/2008 6:00:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, 



> Gregoryoc@... writes:



> 



> some folk will remain SOB irrreguardless of what they drive



> Greg- that is my son, in a nutshell.



> 



> 



> 



> Ernie Ekberg



> 83PT40



> Livingston, Montana



> 



> 



> 



> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new

twists 



on family 



> favorites at AOL Food. 



> (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)



>









 
				

[Terry Neal]

Right on target Roger. I have pulled into Flying Js in my Blue Bird
& had the clerks inside come out to look at & admire it. How
many "motor homes" do they see in a day? How many times do they come
outside to really appreciate what a SOB is all about?

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92TA

74FC34 6V53T











"rogerwwebb@aol.com" wrote:










you guys hit the nail on the head .. it is nothing but

lust....

Ever since I moved on from backpacking, I lusted for an RV,

not just any RV, but one of with all the thrills of a new adventure.

I started with a pop-up and then rented plastic RV's a number of

times, but I wanted a real motor coach, not a run-of-the mill

RV.... one with automatic leveling, the tag axle (shows you're a heavy

duty type), billowing black smoke when you step on the throttle,

cruising with the semis and not getting blown off the road, etc.....  

Telling people ... 'yep, takes 300 gallons of diesel ... yep,

$1200 today .. but hey, I didn't buy it for the mileage ...' I bought

it because it is more than an RV, ... it is a hobby, a past time and it

keeps me out of bars ... well most of the time. They look at me and

either think I'm nuts our rich ...... not sure myself ....

It is much like having a very special looking girl by your

side (makes old guys look much better). This is so evident

whentailgating at the Hawkeye games with many, many SOB's and I tell

you, my 91 WL is better looking and more formidable (in terms of a

mechanical device, not a woman) that any of the others.

I find myself constantly talking about it and even showing

pictures of it, like you would a trophywife ...

yes,lust ....... no sexthough, as I doubt the wife would

approve .....

Roger Webb
91 WL
Cedar Rapids, IA




In a message dated 5/14/2008 8:45:10 P.M. Central Daylight

Time, erniecarpet@aol.com writes:
 

 

 

 







You are correct, John. I guess in the young person's eyes,

sex, glitz, and bloody slideouts are all the rage these days.


Ernie Ekberg



83PT40



Livingston, Montana

2 slide outs- one for my toolbox, the other is a Joey bed















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[erniecarpet@...]

Curt, come on up. Just had a meal that Mario fixed for this old carpet installer, tonite. Thank you very much, Mario and Bridget. Have a safe trip.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana

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[Henry Jay Hannigan]

Price of diesel $4.00 and rising.....price of driving into a
Motorhome park and everyone admiring and asking if our BIRD is new;
PRICELESS.....
Regards,
Hank & Naty
90SP36







--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Terry Neal wrote:
>
> Right on target Roger. I have pulled into Flying Js in my Blue
Bird &
> had the clerks inside come out to look at & admire it. How
many "motor
> homes" do they see in a day? How many times do they come outside
to
> really appreciate what a SOB is all about?
>
> Terry Neal
> Bozeman, MT
> 82PT40 6V92TA
> 74FC34 6V53T
>
>
>
> rogerwwebb@... wrote:
>
> > you guys hit the nail on the head .. it is nothing but lust....
> >
> > Ever since I moved on from backpacking, I lusted for an RV, not
just
> > any RV, but one of with all the thrills of a new adventure. I
> > started with a pop-up and then rented plastic RV's a number of
times,
> > but I wanted a real motor coach, not a run-of-the mill RV.... one
with
> > automatic leveling, the tag axle (shows you're a heavy duty
type),
> > billowing black smoke when you step on the throttle, cruising
with the
> > semis and not getting blown off the road, etc.....
> >
> > Telling people ... 'yep, takes 300 gallons of diesel ... yep,
$1200
> > today .. but hey, I didn't buy it for the mileage ...' I bought
it
> > because it is more than an RV, ... it is a hobby, a past time and
it
> > keeps me out of bars ... well most of the time. They look at me
and
> > either think I'm nuts our rich ...... not sure myself ....
> >
> > It is much like having a very special looking girl by your side
(makes
> > old guys look much better). This is so evident when tailgating
at the
> > Hawkeye games with many, many SOB's and I tell you, my 91 WL is
better
> > looking and more formidable (in terms of a mechanical device, not
a
> > woman) that any of the others.
> >
> > I find myself constantly talking about it and even showing
pictures of
> > it, like you would a trophy wife ...
> >
> > yes, lust ... .... no sex though, as I doubt the wife would
approve .....
> >
> > Roger Webb
> > 91 WL
> > Cedar Rapids, IA
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 5/14/2008 8:45:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > erniecarpet@... writes:
> >
> > You are correct, John. I guess in the young person's eyes,
sex,
> > glitz, and bloody slideouts are all the rage these days.
> >
> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Livingston, Montana
> > 2 slide outs- one for my toolbox, the other is a Joey bed
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
----------
> > Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family
> > favorites at AOL Food
> > <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?
NCID=aolfod00030000000001>.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
------
> > Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family
> > favorites at AOL Food
> > <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=...0000000001>.
> >
>

[timvasqz]

$4.00 a gal. ? where? what State? In HOT SO. Calif (102) today
Thursday the price of Diesel is 4.77 a gal. The price of driving
into a RV Park use to be how gorgeous our Bird was; now its "How
much does it take fill that GINORMOUS BUS? I quiver in
saying "Priceless" anymore.

Tim
94pt w/300 gal tank --- In
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Henry Jay Hannigan"
wrote:
>
> Price of diesel $4.00 and rising.....price of driving into a
> Motorhome park and everyone admiring and asking if our BIRD is
new;
> PRICELESS.....
> Regards,
> Hank & Naty
> 90SP36
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Terry Neal wrote:
> >
> > Right on target Roger. I have pulled into Flying Js in my Blue
> Bird &
> > had the clerks inside come out to look at & admire it. How
> many "motor
> > homes" do they see in a day? How many times do they come
outside
> to
> > really appreciate what a SOB is all about?
> >
> > Terry Neal
> > Bozeman, MT
> > 82PT40 6V92TA
> > 74FC34 6V53T
> >
> >
> >
> > rogerwwebb@ wrote:
> >
> > > you guys hit the nail on the head .. it is nothing but lust....
> > >
> > > Ever since I moved on from backpacking, I lusted for an RV,
not
> just
> > > any RV, but one of with all the thrills of a new adventure.
I
> > > started with a pop-up and then rented plastic RV's a number of
> times,
> > > but I wanted a real motor coach, not a run-of-the mill RV....
one
> with
> > > automatic leveling, the tag axle (shows you're a heavy duty
> type),
> > > billowing black smoke when you step on the throttle, cruising
> with the
> > > semis and not getting blown off the road, etc.....
> > >
> > > Telling people ... 'yep, takes 300 gallons of diesel ... yep,
> $1200
> > > today .. but hey, I didn't buy it for the mileage ...' I
bought
> it
> > > because it is more than an RV, ... it is a hobby, a past time
and
> it
> > > keeps me out of bars ... well most of the time. They look at
me
> and
> > > either think I'm nuts our rich ...... not sure myself ....
> > >
> > > It is much like having a very special looking girl by your
side
> (makes
> > > old guys look much better). This is so evident when
tailgating
> at the
> > > Hawkeye games with many, many SOB's and I tell you, my 91 WL
is
> better
> > > looking and more formidable (in terms of a mechanical device,
not
> a
> > > woman) that any of the others.
> > >
> > > I find myself constantly talking about it and even showing
> pictures of
> > > it, like you would a trophy wife ...
> > >
> > > yes, lust ... .... no sex though, as I doubt the wife would
> approve .....
> > >
> > > Roger Webb
> > > 91 WL
> > > Cedar Rapids, IA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 5/14/2008 8:45:10 P.M. Central Daylight
Time,
> > > erniecarpet@ writes:
> > >
> > > You are correct, John. I guess in the young person's eyes,
> sex,
> > > glitz, and bloody slideouts are all the rage these days.
> > >
> > > Ernie Ekberg
> > > 83PT40
> > > Livingston, Montana
> > > 2 slide outs- one for my toolbox, the other is a Joey bed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------
---
> ----------
> > > Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on
family
> > > favorites at AOL Food
> > > <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?
> NCID=aolfod00030000000001>.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------
---
> ------
> > > Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family
> > > favorites at AOL Food
> > > <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=...0000000001>.
> > >
> >
>

[Curt Sprenger]

Tim,
I paid $4.29/gal/diesel Tuesday in AZ; 46 cents/gal less than here in Anaheim Hills, CA. My bus diesel tank is full. I buy AZ diesel fuel and feed the beast here in Anaheim. I'm hoping to head up to MT for some of that brisket with Shane and Ernie...waiting on other family members to make a commitment to taking the time off...time will tell.

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:02 PM, timvasqz <"Petrover1@aol.com"> wrote:

$4.00 a gal. ? where? what State? In HOT SO. Calif (102) today

Thursday the price of Diesel is 4.77 a gal. The price of driving

into a RV Park use to be how gorgeous our Bird was; now its "How

much does it take fill that GINORMOUS BUS? I quiver in

saying "Priceless" anymore.



Tim

94pt w/300 gal tank --- In

"WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Henry Jay Hannigan"

wrote:

>

> Price of diesel $4.00 and rising.....price of driving into a

> Motorhome park and everyone admiring and asking if our BIRD is

new;

> PRICELESS.....

> Regards,

> Hank & Naty

> 90SP36

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Terry Neal wrote:

> >

> > Right on target Roger. I have pulled into Flying Js in my Blue

> Bird &

> > had the clerks inside come out to look at & admire it. How

> many "motor

> > homes" do they see in a day? How many times do they come

outside

> to

> > really appreciate what a SOB is all about?

> >

> > Terry Neal

> > Bozeman, MT

> > 82PT40 6V92TA

> > 74FC34 6V53T

> >

> >

> >

> > rogerwwebb@ wrote:

> >

> > > you guys hit the nail on the head .. it is nothing but lust....

> > >

> > > Ever since I moved on from backpacking, I lusted for an RV,

not

> just

> > > any RV, but one of with all the thrills of a new adventure.

I

> > > started with a pop-up and then rented plastic RV's a number of

> times,

> > > but I wanted a real motor coach, not a run-of-the mill RV....

one

> with

> > > automatic leveling, the tag axle (shows you're a heavy duty

> type),

> > > billowing black smoke when you step on the throttle, cruising

> with the

> > > semis and not getting blown off the road, etc.....

> > >

> > > Telling people ... 'yep, takes 300 gallons of diesel ... yep,

> $1200

> > > today .. but hey, I didn't buy it for the mileage ...' I

bought

> it

> > > because it is more than an RV, ... it is a hobby, a past time

and

> it

> > > keeps me out of bars ... well most of the time. They look at

me

> and

> > > either think I'm nuts our rich ...... not sure myself ....

> > >

> > > It is much like having a very special looking girl by your

side

> (makes

> > > old guys look much better). This is so evident when

tailgating

> at the

> > > Hawkeye games with many, many SOB's and I tell you, my 91 WL

is

> better

> > > looking and more formidable (in terms of a mechanical device,

not

> a

> > > woman) that any of the others.

> > >

> > > I find myself constantly talking about it and even showing

> pictures of

> > > it, like you would a trophy wife ...

> > >

> > > yes, lust ... .... no sex though, as I doubt the wife would

> approve .....

> > >

> > > Roger Webb

> > > 91 WL

> > > Cedar Rapids, IA

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 5/14/2008 8:45:10 P.M. Central Daylight

Time,

> > > erniecarpet@ writes:

> > >

> > > You are correct, John. I guess in the young person's eyes,

> sex,

> > > glitz, and bloody slideouts are all the rage these days.

> > >

> > > Ernie Ekberg

> > > 83PT40

> > > Livingston, Montana

> > > 2 slide outs- one for my toolbox, the other is a Joey bed

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

---

> ----------

> > > Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on

family

> > > favorites at AOL Food

> > > <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?

> NCID=aolfod00030000000001>.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

---

> ------

> > > Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family

> > > favorites at AOL Food

> > > <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=...0000000001>.

> > >

> >

>

--
Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA

[Ryan Wright]

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:54 AM, brad barton <bbartonwx@...> wrote:
>
> And you all thought the thread about CDL's would never quit. Start
> insulting someone's newer high-dollar coaches..and we'll need more
> band-width.

Agreed. I love my old Bird but I'll buy a newish LXi (I don't buy
depreciating assets "brand new") when I have the financial means.
There are differences between the new BBs and the old. Whether those
differences are "good" or "bad" is a matter of opinion, nothing more.
My opinion is they're a mixture of both, but the good outweigh the bad
and I fully intend to upgrade - but not for a long time. I'm still
barely a new owner here and have countless more years to enjoy this
old Bird.

> But we've certainly found some design flaws in our coach.

Everything has design flaws. Old, new, you name it, I can point out
design flaws in mine, too. Of course, they can also be a matter of
opinion. One man's flaw is another's precision craftsmanship.

-Ryan
'86 PT-40 8V92

[David Brady]

Just like anything else, it's the flaws that give 'em character

and make 'em interesting. My major complaint against Prevost

is that they're too perfect. I literally fall asleep behind the wheel -

boring. The BB reminds me of my British sports car, a Triumph

TR250, it hops and weaves, and puts a smile on your face.

Add to this all the wonderful gadgetry on a BB that keep us

amused: the electroluminescent dashboard, musical horns,

altimeter, and then all the systems that linger like long abandoned

DNA: 4 ways to heat the interior, redundant water pumps,

redundant air pumps.. And then implicit in all this is the owner

involvement, BB did a great job over the years of making

everything accessible, the owner is encouraged to debug and

maintain these things. I've got 40 tons of HWH jacks, enough

to easily lift the bus and pull a tire if need be. Things like this

don't exist on many other brands. Its 40 years of evolution and

organic growth. Can't be beat, flaws and all. I love 'em all

and hope someday to add a vintage model to my garage.

But alas, I'm preaching to the choir.



David

'02 LXi, NC



Ryan Wright wrote:

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:54 AM, brad barton <"bbartonwx%40hotmail.com">
wrote:

>

> And you all thought the thread about CDL's would never quit. Start

> insulting someone's newer high-dollar coaches..and we'll need more

> band-width.



Agreed. I love my old Bird but I'll buy a newish LXi (I don't buy

depreciating assets "brand new") when I have the financial means.

There are differences between the new BBs and the old. Whether those

differences are "good" or "bad" is a matter of opinion, nothing more.

My opinion is they're a mixture of both, but the good outweigh the bad

and I fully intend to upgrade - but not for a long time. I'm still

barely a new owner here and have countless more years to enjoy this

old Bird.



> But we've certainly found some design flaws in our coach.



Everything has design flaws. Old, new, you name it, I can point out

design flaws in mine, too. Of course, they can also be a matter of

opinion. One man's flaw is another's precision craftsmanship.



-Ryan

'86 PT-40 8V92

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[Terry Neal]

Curt,



$4.18 up here in Billings MT today but that price will go up by tonight
probably.  Higher than that in Bozeman or Livingston.  Around $4.28 or
so there.

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92TA

74FC34 6V53T











Curt Sprenger wrote:







Tim,



I paid $4.29/gal/diesel Tuesday in AZ; 46 cents/gal less than here in

Anaheim Hills, CA. My bus diesel tank is full. I buy AZ diesel fuel and

feed the beast here in Anaheim. I'm hoping to head up to MT for some of

that brisket with Shane and Ernie...waiting on other family members to

make a commitment to taking the time off...time will tell. 












On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:02 PM, timvasqz

<"Petrover1@aol.com">

wrote:












$4.00 a gal. ? where? what State? In HOT SO. Calif (102) today 



Thursday the price of Diesel is 4.77 a gal. The price of driving 



into a RV Park use to be how gorgeous our Bird was; now its "How 



much does it take fill that GINORMOUS BUS? I quiver in 



saying "Priceless" anymore.







Tim



94pt w/300 gal tank --- In 



"WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",

"Henry Jay Hannigan" 





.> wrote:



>



> Price of diesel $4.00 and rising.....price of driving into a 



> Motorhome park and everyone admiring and asking if our BIRD is 



new; 



> PRICELESS.....



> Regards,



> Hank & Naty



> 90SP36



> 



> 



> 



> 



> 



> 



> 



> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Terry

Neal  wrote:



> >



> > Right on target Roger. I have pulled into Flying Js in my

Blue 



> Bird & 



> > had the clerks inside come out to look at & admire it.

How 



> many "motor 



> > homes" do they see in a day? How many times do they come 



outside 



> to 



> > really appreciate what a SOB is all about?



> > 



> > Terry Neal



> > Bozeman, MT



> > 82PT40 6V92TA



> > 74FC34 6V53T



> > 



> > 



> > 



> > rogerwwebb@ wrote:



> > 



> > > you guys hit the nail on the head .. it is nothing but

lust....



> > > 



> > > Ever since I moved on from backpacking, I lusted for an

RV, 



not 



> just 



> > > any RV, but one of with all the thrills of a new

adventure. 



I 



> > > started with a pop-up and then rented plastic RV's a

number of 



> times, 



> > > but I wanted a real motor coach, not a run-of-the mill

RV.... 



one 



> with 



> > > automatic leveling, the tag axle (shows you're a heavy

duty 



> type), 



> > > billowing black smoke when you step on the throttle,

cruising 



> with the 



> > > semis and not getting blown off the road, etc..... 



> > > 



> > > Telling people ... 'yep, takes 300 gallons of diesel ...

yep, 



> $1200 



> > > today .. but hey, I didn't buy it for the mileage ...' I





bought 



> it 



> > > because it is more than an RV, ... it is a hobby, a past

time 



and 



> it 



> > > keeps me out of bars ... well most of the time. They

look at 



me 



> and 



> > > either think I'm nuts our rich ...... not sure myself

....



> > > 



> > > It is much like having a very special looking girl by

your 



side 



> (makes 



> > > old guys look much better). This is so evident when 



tailgating 



> at the 



> > > Hawkeye games with many, many SOB's and I tell you, my

91 WL 



is 



> better 



> > > looking and more formidable (in terms of a mechanical

device, 



not 



> a 



> > > woman) that any of the others.



> > > 



> > > I find myself constantly talking about it and even

showing 



> pictures of 



> > > it, like you would a trophy wife ... 



> > > 



> > > yes, lust ... .... no sex though, as I doubt the wife

would 



> approve .....



> > > 



> > > Roger Webb



> > > 91 WL



> > > Cedar Rapids, IA 



> > > 



> > > 



> > > 



> > > In a message dated 5/14/2008 8:45:10 P.M. Central

Daylight 



Time, 



> > > erniecarpet@ writes:



> > >



> > > You are correct, John. I guess in the young person's

eyes, 



> sex,



> > > glitz, and bloody slideouts are all the rage these days.



> > > 



> > > Ernie Ekberg



> > > 83PT40



> > > Livingston, Montana



> > > 2 slide outs- one for my toolbox, the other is a Joey bed



> > >



> > >



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Curt Sprenger



1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"



Anaheim Hills, CA