1111Aa RV3012M inverter installation photos

[Dorn Hetzel]

Of course, you can run double 4/0 (two 4/0 cables for + and two for -) or get railroad engine cable which is about 4 to 9 times the cross-sectional area of 4/0 and therefore about 1/4 to 1/9 the voltage drop for a given current. If you run two or more parallel runs of 4/0, they each carry 1/2 or 1/3 or whatever fraction of the amperage and have correspondingly lower voltage drops. I've been considering running individual 4/0 from each battery and gathering them at the inverter terminal or a nearby bus-bar.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:39 PM, pgchd <"pgchin@bellsouth.net"> wrote:

I have a 95 42'. Two years ago I needed to replace the inverters,

Xantrex had a sale on 458's 2500W, same size as the Heart OEM's, so I

used them. I contemplated the move to the bay where the tool box is,

curb side, but in the end I used the original location. My "logic"

was I am in there anyway with a "blower" cleaning the batteries,

checking the water level, etc so "cleaning" the inverter box in not an

additional task. 2 1/2 years later no issues and the originals lasted

10 years with no cleaning effort by the prior owner. Also, I am a

"cheapskate" and was able to remove the original cables off the hearts

and reuse on the 458's. The original inverters would have lasted

longer if not for a "dumb move" on my part, user error. I've noticed

on the various for sale websites indeed they made the move about 96

sometime so they do work in the bay location. The 458's are the

"replacements" for the Hearts 2500's and I do not know the difference

between what you have and the 458's....looked at the website and still

can't tell. Anyway my 458 manual says keep the cable length at 10 feet

or shorter, if 10 feet and it is a 3000 Watt unit (I think you said

your is) then cable thickness is 4/0..... a big honkin cable. The

cable guide(owners manual) for the 458's in online so you can double

check me and it lists all wattages, I selected the numbers above based

on what I"think" you said, 3000 watts, you should validate......

getting old! :-)

Pete, Donna, and Lucky bear Chin

95 42' greater Daytona Beach area



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "bumpersbird"

wrote:

>

> David

>

> Is that along the out side of the coach?

>

> One problem I have is my inverters are side by side, which adds a

> foot or so to one of the runs. What size cable is on your inverters?

>

> Kurt

> 95 PT-423

> 10AC

>

>

> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", David Brady

> wrote:

> >

> > I measure 14 ft.

> >

> > David

> > '02 LXi, NC

> >

> > brad barton wrote:

> > >

> > > I don't have my coach with me anymore, either, but my inverters

> are

> > > placed slightly aft of mid-coach so the 20' length might be

> pretty

> > > close.

> > >

> > > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@

> > >

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[bumpersbird]

Thanks Everybody,

The time has come to S--T or get off the Pot!

No responce yet from BB.

I've got no more time to waste on reinventing the wheel.

The new inverters are going back into the same place as the old ones.

As noted most of these inverters have been in this location for
years.

Mine have been there since 1995 so it's probably not as bad as some
belive it to be.

Anyway this frees up some funds for other projects.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC

[Pete Masterson]

Kurt, 

I gotta say, I was thinking that the current location isn't all that bad. I went down and looked over my inverters -- yes, there's a bit of dirt/dust that has accumulated in the metal box -- but it's not a super serious build up. 

I _think_ the previous owner may have replaced the inverters. At least, he installed a Link 2000 R controller (which is somewhat more sophisticated than the original, as I understand). If he replaced the inverters, they were the exact same model as the original. I'm guessing that was the case as I have 4 "owners manuals" for the two inverters.

Next time I have my work clothes on and a dust mask and goggles, I'm going to use some compressed air to blow out the dirt in the inverter box. I'm guessing that it will be pretty gross...

Pete Masterson

'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42

El Sobrante CA

"aeonix1@mac.com"

On Jun 12, 2008, at 12:30 PM, bumpersbird wrote:

Thanks Everybody,

The time has come to S--T or get off the Pot!

No responce yet from BB.

I've got no more time to waste on reinventing the wheel.

The new inverters are going back into the same place as the old ones.

As noted most of these inverters have been in this location for 

years. 

Mine have been there since 1995 so it's probably not as bad as some 

belive it to be.

Anyway this frees up some funds for other projects.

Kurt Horvath

95 PT-42

10AC

[Terry Neal]

Kurt,

I agree with you. Thanks for sharing all of your research but I think
you are right to keep the inverters in the original location.



I'll put my single unit in the same location as the Rediline was in the
rear engine compartment. Will close off the interior side towards the
engine & leave the exterior side open for ventilation. Should keep
much of the dirt off the inverter & it's only a couple of feet to
the battery bank.



Thanks again,

Terry

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92TA

74FC34 6V53T











bumpersbird wrote:







Thanks Everybody,







The time has come to S--T or get off the Pot!







No responce yet from BB.







I've got no more time to waste on reinventing the wheel.







The new inverters are going back into the same place as the old ones.







As noted most of these inverters have been in this location for 



years. 







Mine have been there since 1995 so it's probably not as bad as some 



belive it to be.







Anyway this frees up some funds for other projects.







Kurt Horvath



95 PT-42



10AC









 
				

[bumpersbird]

I was just finishing putting everything back in bay three and I am
now wondering should I put the electric grill back in or get the gas
fired Infrared BBQ that I have been drooling over, OH I love seared
beef!

My inverterd box is dirty to, but from the start heat was the issue.
no worries when the engine gill fans are installed their will be 3300
CFM sucking hot air out of the engine box. If that doesn't work
nothing will.

Jessie from BB Tech just called and said they never went past
whatever cables they got from Xantrex. So that answers that question.

Thanks,
Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> Kurt,
>
> I gotta say, I was thinking that the current location isn't all
that
> bad. I went down and looked over my inverters -- yes, there's a
bit
> of dirt/dust that has accumulated in the metal box -- but it's not
a
> super serious build up.
>
> I _think_ the previous owner may have replaced the inverters. At
> least, he installed a Link 2000 R controller (which is somewhat
more
> sophisticated than the original, as I understand). If he replaced
the
> inverters, they were the exact same model as the original. I'm
> guessing that was the case as I have 4 "owners manuals" for the
two
> inverters.
>
> Next time I have my work clothes on and a dust mask and goggles,
I'm
> going to use some compressed air to blow out the dirt in the
inverter
> box. I'm guessing that it will be pretty gross...
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> El Sobrante CA
> aeonix1@...
>
>
>
> On Jun 12, 2008, at 12:30 PM, bumpersbird wrote:
>
> > Thanks Everybody,
> >
> > The time has come to S--T or get off the Pot!
> >
> > No responce yet from BB.
> >
> > I've got no more time to waste on reinventing the wheel.
> >
> > The new inverters are going back into the same place as the old
ones.
> >
> > As noted most of these inverters have been in this location for
> > years.
> >
> > Mine have been there since 1995 so it's probably not as bad as
some
> > belive it to be.
> >
> > Anyway this frees up some funds for other projects.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT-42
> > 10AC
> >
>

[Terry Neal]

Kurt,

Go for the gas infrared and be happy. Then you only have to put the
grill back in one time...

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92TA

74FC34 6V53T











bumpersbird wrote:







I was just finishing putting everything back in bay three and I am





now wondering should I put the electric grill back in or get the gas 



fired Infrared BBQ that I have been drooling over, OH I love seared 



beef!







My inverterd box is dirty to, but from the start heat was the issue. 



no worries when the engine gill fans are installed their will be 3300 



CFM sucking hot air out of the engine box. If that doesn't work 



nothing will.







Jessie from BB Tech just called and said they never went past 



whatever cables they got from Xantrex. So that answers that question.







Thanks,



Kurt Horvath 



95 PT-42



10AC



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",

Pete Masterson > 



wrote:



>



> Kurt,



> 



> I gotta say, I was thinking that the current location isn't all 



that 



> bad. I went down and looked over my inverters -- yes, there's a 



bit 



> of dirt/dust that has accumulated in the metal box -- but it's not





a 



> super serious build up.



> 



> I _think_ the previous owner may have replaced the inverters. At 



> least, he installed a Link 2000 R controller (which is somewhat 



more 



> sophisticated than the original, as I understand). If he replaced 



the 



> inverters, they were the exact same model as the original. I'm 



> guessing that was the case as I have 4 "owners manuals" for the 



two 



> inverters.



> 



> Next time I have my work clothes on and a dust mask and goggles, 



I'm 



> going to use some compressed air to blow out the dirt in the 



inverter 



> box. I'm guessing that it will be pretty gross...



> 



> Pete Masterson



> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42



> El Sobrante CA



> aeonix1@...



> 



> 



> 



> On Jun 12, 2008, at 12:30 PM, bumpersbird wrote:



> 



> > Thanks Everybody,



> >



> > The time has come to S--T or get off the Pot!



> >



> > No responce yet from BB.



> >



> > I've got no more time to waste on reinventing the wheel.



> >



> > The new inverters are going back into the same place as the

old 



ones.



> >



> > As noted most of these inverters have been in this location

for



> > years.



> >



> > Mine have been there since 1995 so it's probably not as bad

as 



some



> > belive it to be.



> >



> > Anyway this frees up some funds for other projects.



> >



> > Kurt Horvath



> > 95 PT-42



> > 10AC



> >



>









 
				

[bumpersbird]

WHHOOOOOOOAOOAAAA! It's hot here in 10AC.

It must be BEER:30 Came in for a cold one.

The Indugance has a propane tank, 45 gallons. On the curb side fuel
hatch, just under the diesel fill is a real convenient quick
detachable gas connection with an on-off valve. Looks like the female
end of an air hose.

I also carry a Smokey Joe BBQ. Sometimes just gotta throw it to the
smoke!

Whenever I need propane Flying J's RV island got it all. They usually
give you 0.05 off per gallon over regular price with the F-J card.

With that much propane onboard I have though about propane injection,
but like this inverter project, I hear people saying it works but, I
don't see anybody rushing to use it.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC

[bumpersbird]

WHHOOOOOOOAOOAAAA! It's hot here in 10AC.

It must be BEER:30 Came in for a cold one.

The Indugance has a propane tank, 45 gallons. On the curb side fuel
hatch, just under the diesel fill is a real convenient quick
detachable gas connection with an on-off valve. Looks like the female
end of an air hose.

I also carry a Smokey Joe BBQ. Sometimes just gotta throw it to the
smoke!

Whenever I need propane Flying J's RV island got it all. They usually
give you 0.05 off per gallon over regular price with the F-J card.

With that much propane onboard I have though about propane injection,
but like this inverter project, I hear people saying it works but, I
don't see anybody rushing to use it.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT-42
10AC

[David Brady]

Hi Kurt,



The wire is 4/0. I didn't take a real accurate measurement of the

length, and I left the bus a moment ago. (Less than14 ft length

estimate).



David Brady

'02 LXi, NC



bumpersbird wrote:

David



Is that along the out side of the coach?



One problem I have is my inverters are side by side, which adds a

foot or so to one of the runs. What size cable is on your inverters?



Kurt

95 PT-42

10AC



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David Brady "dmb993@..."

wrote:

>

> I measure 14 ft.

>

> David

> '02 LXi, NC

>

> brad barton wrote:

> >

> > I don't have my coach with me anymore, either, but my
inverters

are

> > placed slightly aft of mid-coach so the 20' length might be

pretty

> > close.

> >

> > Brad Barton 00LXiDFW bbartonwx@...

> >

> >

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