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09-14-2008, 05:12

Leroy- doesn't the Series 60 require additional room in the engine compartment? I know the 6v and 8v are jammed in there.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana

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09-14-2008, 06:23

I've been reading where it is getting harder to find technicians who
know how to work on two stroke engines. If you have a Bluebird with an
8v92 engine and down the road you need to do a replacement rather than
a rebuild - what do you do?

Will a Cummins fit and work correctly?

I may buy a pre-owned Bluebird in the future but am wondering whether I
should wait until I can afford a series 60 because of this issue.

Your input is appreciated.

Thanks.

Dave

09-14-2008, 07:58

I bet the engine compartment would only have access to a 5 year old. I'm too big for that.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana

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09-14-2008, 09:06

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "tumble_weed_ft"
wrote:

Yes and no. It is a major modification to switch 8v92 to S60 and not
cost effective. However CCW can do it for you. I have wanted a Series
60 but have yet to figure out why. There are so many Detroit
6-8-12-16v engines of various displacements running in the oil patch
that it will be years before your indicated problem occurs.
Here is a link to a company that can do most anything with a Detroit.
There are more.
http://www.powerlinecomponents.com/
Leroy Eckert
1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA
Royale Conversion
>
> I've been reading where it is getting harder to find technicians who
> know how to work on two stroke engines. If you have a Bluebird with an
> 8v92 engine and down the road you need to do a replacement rather than
> a rebuild - what do you do?
>
> Will a Cummins fit and work correctly?
>
> I may buy a pre-owned Bluebird in the future but am wondering whether I
> should wait until I can afford a series 60 because of this issue.
>
> Your input is appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave
>

09-14-2008, 09:21

Dave, I understand what you are saying I would like you to consider
that time's a waisting as well. Factor that into your decision
making. I don't know how much better a series 60 might be. But I
wouldn't wait. Time is what we are all short of. You will never
have the perfect coach, series 60 or not. If you can raise the 30K
difference in relatively short time no problem. If you have to over
extend or put off then I would buy less and get on with the fun
stuff.Some of the other fellow who know the engines can speak to
that. Just suggesting that its likely not very important in the total
picture.
John Heckman
central Pa
1973 FC
>
> I've been reading where it is getting harder to find technicians
who
> know how to work on two stroke engines. If you have a Bluebird with
an
> 8v92 engine and down the road you need to do a replacement rather
than
> a rebuild - what do you do?
>
> Will a Cummins fit and work correctly?
>
> I may buy a pre-owned Bluebird in the future but am wondering
whether I
> should wait until I can afford a series 60 because of this issue.
>
> Your input is appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave
>

09-14-2008, 10:43

Yes, I spoke with CCW, Riverside and it can be done. Expensive. Anything can be done if one throws enough money at it.
Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors
Dahlonega, GA

--- On Sun, 9/14/08, erniecarpet@... wrote:

From: erniecarpet@...
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 8v92 Engine Replacement
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 5:12 PM

Leroy- doesn't the Series 60 require additional room in the engine compartment? I know the 6v and 8v are jammed in there.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Livingston, Montana

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09-14-2008, 11:02

Indeed, the reason that the S-60 is in a "42" or "43" ft coach is
because the 6 cylinder Series 60 is longer than the 8V92 (with 4 cyl
per bank).

I'd think that an exchange for a shorter engine (Cummins?) would work
better, but I'm not sure what's available out there.

In any event, an engine change would probably be far from cost
effective -- but that doesn't necessarily mean that someone wouldn't
try it...

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Galloway, OH where the tail end of Ike is blowing like
crazy.

On Sep 14, 2008, at 4:12 PM, erniecarpet@... wrote:

> Leroy- doesn't the Series 60 require additional room in the engine
> compartment? I know the 6v and 8v are jammed in there.
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Livingston, Montana
>

09-14-2008, 12:26

Dave...I understand your concerns about the two strokes and ongoing maintenance. However you should expand your search activities to include the 1000's of marine applications for the DD 2 stroke engines...The used boat market has thousands of old, high quality and expensive boats that are still powered by the 2 strokes and the parts/ maintenance capabilities are still there and will be there until they start burning the 60 foot Hatteras's..Jim Barone..1991 WBWL..currently in Kuttawa, KY.

-----Original Message-----

From: bubblerboy64

To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 4:21 pm

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 8v92 Engine Replacement

Dave, I understand what you are saying I would like you to consider

that time's a waisting as well. Factor that into your decision

making. I don't know how much better a series 60 might be. But I

wouldn't wait. Time is what we are all short of. You will never

have the perfect coach, series 60 or not. If you can raise the 30K

difference in relatively short time no problem. If you have to over

extend or put off then I would buy less and get on with the fun

stuff.Some of the other fellow who know the engines can speak to

that. Just suggesting that its likely not very important in the total

picture.

John Heckman

central Pa

1973 FC

>

> I've been reading where it is getting harder to find technicians

who

> know how to work on two stroke engines. If you have a Bluebird with

an

> 8v92 engine and down the road you need to do a replacement rather

than

> a rebuild - what do you do?

>

> Will a Cummins fit and work correctly?

>

> I may buy a pre-owned Bluebird in the future but am wondering

whether I

> should wait until I can afford a series 60 because of this issue.

>

> Your input is appreciated.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Dave

>

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09-14-2008, 18:45

I have a friend that is a DD Rep. He told me a few months back that
the DD still makes new 6V92 and 8V92 engines for the U.S. Gov't.
Since the Gov't does not have to worry about the smog rules they
enforce others to follow, they can still use the good ole two
strokes. I'm not sure where the applications are (i.e., military,
post office, ??) but it suprised me that they are still manufactured.

Regards,

Glenn

09-15-2008, 02:18

There is also a fairly active yahoo group for the 2strokes, this link
should get you there:

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/DetroitDiesel/

HTH

/Joe

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn Allen"
wrote:
>
> I have a friend that is a DD Rep. He told me a few months back that
> the DD still makes new 6V92 and 8V92 engines for the U.S. Gov't.
> Since the Gov't does not have to worry about the smog rules they
> enforce others to follow, they can still use the good ole two
> strokes. I'm not sure where the applications are (i.e., military,
> post office, ??) but it suprised me that they are still manufactured.
>
> Regards,
>
> Glenn
>