Washer/Dryer

[Don Bradner]

That's what I did (this coach was never setup for a W/D).

The vent covers come in chrome, and paintable-white. I went with the latter and
spray painted it to match the blue it was going to be surrounded by. A picture
that shows it is here: http://www.arcatapet.net/travel/images/c.../vla-1.jpg

We completely chewed up a new 4-inch hole saw, but it did the job. Since the
inside location was critical we drilled a pilot there first, then went in from
the outside.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Posting today by satellite from Selma, North Carolina
My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1

On 10/1/2008 at 8:29 PM Kurt Horvath wrote:

>What do you guys think of poking a hole through the body to exhaust
>the dryer staight out from the machine? The current vent system is a
>wreck and isn't very effective even if it were rebuilt.
>
>Kurt Horvath
>95 PT 42
>10AC
>
>In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
>wrote:
>>
>> Well, at least I didn't get a Friday afternoon job. Everything was
>> properly installed -- floor supported, etc. Must have been a
>> Wednesday, mid-morning installation....
>>
>> I agree that the trap was small, so non-use of the washer and hot
>> weather could combine to allow some odor problems. My storage
>> location (in the SF Bay Area) doesn't present much of a challenge
>to
>> sewer traps, fortunately...
>>
>> Pete Masterson
>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>> aeonix1@...
>> On the road near Scranton, PA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>>
>> > Now were having fun! The dryer exhaust tube is pinched in half,
>> > obviously when installed they just pushed the washer in and
>chinked
>> > the tube. There was enough lint to weave a shirt, the water hose
>is
>> > kinked in half and showing signs of cracking, the electric heater
>> > under the W/D is not mounted very well it's just hanging on from
>the
>> > grill and the air powered vent is seized up, the air cylinder is
>> > functional and the on/off light is working for the first time
>ever.
>> > The floor was cut away to allow access for the dryer vent hose but
>> > they did not block it up in any way. So one side of the closet
>floor
>> > is just hanging in air. Must have been a Friday Afternoon. Yes
>Pete I
>> > did have to take the door off. No signs of any past water damage
>so
>> > far. There is a small water trap but I sure in a few weeks of hot
>> > weather when not being used it would evaporate. Still looking for
>the
>> > elusive Pipe vent, I think it's behind the pantry.
>> >
>> > Kurt Horvath
>> > 95 PT 42
>> > 10AC
>> > - In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It also depends on the installation/floor plan in your coach.
>With
>> >> the "diagonal aisle" floor plan (with an aisle passing by the
>> >> bathroom (a side-bath type arrangement), my Splende is located on
>> > the
>> >> centerline of the coach, in a full-height closet (linens go above
>> > the
>> >> washer). This also puts the outlet for the dryer vent located up
>> >> high, above the axle area, just in front of the differential. The
>> >> back of the washer is against the bedroom bulkhead. There is no
>> >> access from the back side.
>> >>
>> >> A search for the vent-exit from the outside proved fruitless.
>(The
>> >> dryer was almost totally ineffective, and I made the assumption
>> > that
>> >> the vent was blocked.)
>> >>
>> >> I eventually had to pull the Splende out of its closet.
>> >> Unfortunately, the tight installation requires removing one of
>the
>> >> hinged doors to the washer/linen closet. Of course, BB used a
>> > piano
>> >> hinge with nearly a dozen screws -- at least they only did every
>> >> other screw.
>> >>
>> >> Only a relatively small amount of lint was found behind (and
>> > under)
>> >> the washer. I discovered that years of lint build up at the
>screen
>> >> (to keep vermin out) at the dryer vent exit had formed a thick
>> > (1/2
>> >> inch) nearly solid seal -- it was not wonder the dryer didn't
>work!
>> >>
>> >> The hoses looked to be in good condition -- but replacing them
>> > with
>> >> steel-braid replacements would probably be a good precaution (why
>> >> didn't I think of that while I had the washer out...). The water
>> >> outlet is, as you said, simply a typical curved 'hook' from the
>> >> washer feeding into a standing pipe connected with the plumbing.
>I
>> >> suspect that the tube isn't sealed to allow venting which might
>> >> otherwise cause undesirable back pressure. We have not
>experienced
>> >> any unpleasant sewer odors from the washer vent line. Isn't there
>> > a
>> >> trap to block odors from the holding tank? (I don't recall seeing
>> > one
>> >> in my installation, but then I don't recall not seeing one
>either.)
>> >>
>> >> There was no sign (water spots, stains on unpainted wood, etc.)
>> > that
>> >> the outlet had ever overflowed. I do not have any moisture
>> > problems
>> >> in the washer/linen closet.
>> >>
>> >> After cleaning the vent tube and outlet thoroughly, I re-
>installed
>> >> the washer as it had previously been -- and now the dryer, while
>> >> hardly impressive, does dry clothes. Due to the relatively small
>> > size
>> >> of the washer and anemic drying performance of the dryer (but it
>> > does
>> >> work and is consistent with reports from others) we still do the
>> > bulk
>> >> of our laundry at laundromats, etc.
>> >>
>> >> Pete Masterson
>> >> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>> >> aeonix1@
>> >> On the road near Scranton, PA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the
>> > washer
>> >>> dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just
>> > finished
>> >>> vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up
>> >>> everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that.
>The
>> >>> drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no washer
>> > or
>> >>> collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into a 1
>> > ½"
>> >>> black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found
>one
>> >>> source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another
>> > question.
>> >>> When
>> >>> was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the washer?
>> > Near
>> >>> as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years
>> > old.
>> >>> Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless
>> > braided
>> >>> hoses
>> >>> and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe. Now
>I
>> > need
>> >>> to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is
>> >>> OK,and to
>> >>> install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very dusty
>in
>> >>> there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on.
>> >>> Kurt Horvath
>> >>> 95 Pt 42
>> >>> 10AC
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
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[Pete Masterson]

The advantage: the shortest and straightest vent line route is
generally preferred for maximum dryer efficiency.

The disadvantages: aesthetic considerations in integrating the 'hole'
in the side of the coach, plus the need to ensure a good water seal
for inclement weather.

You'll still need to have some sort of open/close vent valve to
ensure that unwanted air flow (in or out) is not a problem depending
on road speeds, pressure zones along the body while driving, winds, etc.

The weather sealing and pressure issues might be very difficult to
handle adequately with a straight through the side mounting.

I observe that the volume of air through the dryer is considerably
less than that of a home-style dryer. I doubt that the resistance
caused by the current installation is much of a factor.

Obviously, my coach, with the center-line location of the dryer
actually has a fairly 'straight out' installation. The vent (upper
rear of the machine) has a 90 degree bend, the hose diagonals across
the back slightly to the street side of the coach, then the exit is
out the bottom floor in the wheel/axle area. Due to the mounting of
the air-operated open/close valve, there's another gradual bend that
equates to a total of a second 90 degree curve. Still, with the low
air volume (compared to more robust machines), I don't think air
resistance is a major factor. The tubing seems to be the same 4"
dryer vent that I have on my home dryer...

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Mill City, PA



On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:

> What do you guys think of poking a hole through the body to exhaust
> the dryer staight out from the machine? The current vent system is a
> wreck and isn't very effective even if it were rebuilt.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT 42
> 10AC
>
> In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> wrote:
>>
>> Well, at least I didn't get a Friday afternoon job. Everything was
>> properly installed -- floor supported, etc. Must have been a
>> Wednesday, mid-morning installation....
>>
>> I agree that the trap was small, so non-use of the washer and hot
>> weather could combine to allow some odor problems. My storage
>> location (in the SF Bay Area) doesn't present much of a challenge
> to
>> sewer traps, fortunately...
>>
>> Pete Masterson
>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>> aeonix1@...
>> On the road near Scranton, PA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>>
>>> Now were having fun! The dryer exhaust tube is pinched in half,
>>> obviously when installed they just pushed the washer in and
> chinked
>>> the tube. There was enough lint to weave a shirt, the water hose
> is
>>> kinked in half and showing signs of cracking, the electric heater
>>> under the W/D is not mounted very well it's just hanging on from
> the
>>> grill and the air powered vent is seized up, the air cylinder is
>>> functional and the on/off light is working for the first time
> ever.
>>> The floor was cut away to allow access for the dryer vent hose but
>>> they did not block it up in any way. So one side of the closet
> floor
>>> is just hanging in air. Must have been a Friday Afternoon. Yes
> Pete I
>>> did have to take the door off. No signs of any past water damage
> so
>>> far. There is a small water trap but I sure in a few weeks of hot
>>> weather when not being used it would evaporate. Still looking for
> the
>>> elusive Pipe vent, I think it's behind the pantry.
>>>
>>> Kurt Horvath
>>> 95 PT 42
>>> 10AC
>>> - In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It also depends on the installation/floor plan in your coach.
> With
>>>> the "diagonal aisle" floor plan (with an aisle passing by the
>>>> bathroom (a side-bath type arrangement), my Splende is located on
>>> the
>>>> centerline of the coach, in a full-height closet (linens go above
>>> the
>>>> washer). This also puts the outlet for the dryer vent located up
>>>> high, above the axle area, just in front of the differential. The
>>>> back of the washer is against the bedroom bulkhead. There is no
>>>> access from the back side.
>>>>
>>>> A search for the vent-exit from the outside proved fruitless.
> (The
>>>> dryer was almost totally ineffective, and I made the assumption
>>> that
>>>> the vent was blocked.)
>>>>
>>>> I eventually had to pull the Splende out of its closet.
>>>> Unfortunately, the tight installation requires removing one of
> the
>>>> hinged doors to the washer/linen closet. Of course, BB used a
>>> piano
>>>> hinge with nearly a dozen screws -- at least they only did every
>>>> other screw.
>>>>
>>>> Only a relatively small amount of lint was found behind (and
>>> under)
>>>> the washer. I discovered that years of lint build up at the
> screen
>>>> (to keep vermin out) at the dryer vent exit had formed a thick
>>> (1/2
>>>> inch) nearly solid seal -- it was not wonder the dryer didn't
> work!
>>>>
>>>> The hoses looked to be in good condition -- but replacing them
>>> with
>>>> steel-braid replacements would probably be a good precaution (why
>>>> didn't I think of that while I had the washer out...). The water
>>>> outlet is, as you said, simply a typical curved 'hook' from the
>>>> washer feeding into a standing pipe connected with the plumbing.
> I
>>>> suspect that the tube isn't sealed to allow venting which might
>>>> otherwise cause undesirable back pressure. We have not
> experienced
>>>> any unpleasant sewer odors from the washer vent line. Isn't there
>>> a
>>>> trap to block odors from the holding tank? (I don't recall seeing
>>> one
>>>> in my installation, but then I don't recall not seeing one
> either.)
>>>>
>>>> There was no sign (water spots, stains on unpainted wood, etc.)
>>> that
>>>> the outlet had ever overflowed. I do not have any moisture
>>> problems
>>>> in the washer/linen closet.
>>>>
>>>> After cleaning the vent tube and outlet thoroughly, I re-
> installed
>>>> the washer as it had previously been -- and now the dryer, while
>>>> hardly impressive, does dry clothes. Due to the relatively small
>>> size
>>>> of the washer and anemic drying performance of the dryer (but it
>>> does
>>>> work and is consistent with reports from others) we still do the
>>> bulk
>>>> of our laundry at laundromats, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Pete Masterson
>>>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>>>> aeonix1@
>>>> On the road near Scranton, PA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the
>>> washer
>>>>> dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just
>>> finished
>>>>> vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up
>>>>> everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that.
> The
>>>>> drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no washer
>>> or
>>>>> collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into a 1
>>> ½"
>>>>> black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found
> one
>>>>> source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another
>>> question.
>>>>> When
>>>>> was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the washer?
>>> Near
>>>>> as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years
>>> old.
>>>>> Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless
>>> braided
>>>>> hoses
>>>>> and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe. Now
> I
>>> need
>>>>> to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is
>>>>> OK,and to
>>>>> install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very dusty
> in
>>>>> there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on.
>>>>> Kurt Horvath
>>>>> 95 Pt 42
>>>>> 10AC
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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[Don Bradner]

The louvered vent such as Leroy has, or the flap that is under my vent cover,
are standard fair in 10's of thousands of RVs. I've never, ever, heard of them
being a problem with water or unwanted air flow.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Posting today by satellite from Selma, North Carolina
My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1

On 10/1/2008 at 5:08 PM Pete Masterson wrote:

>The advantage: the shortest and straightest vent line route is
>generally preferred for maximum dryer efficiency.
>
>The disadvantages: aesthetic considerations in integrating the 'hole'
>in the side of the coach, plus the need to ensure a good water seal
>for inclement weather.
>
>You'll still need to have some sort of open/close vent valve to
>ensure that unwanted air flow (in or out) is not a problem depending
>on road speeds, pressure zones along the body while driving, winds, etc.
>
>The weather sealing and pressure issues might be very difficult to
>handle adequately with a straight through the side mounting.
>
>I observe that the volume of air through the dryer is considerably
>less than that of a home-style dryer. I doubt that the resistance
>caused by the current installation is much of a factor.
>
>Obviously, my coach, with the center-line location of the dryer
>actually has a fairly 'straight out' installation. The vent (upper
>rear of the machine) has a 90 degree bend, the hose diagonals across
>the back slightly to the street side of the coach, then the exit is
>out the bottom floor in the wheel/axle area. Due to the mounting of
>the air-operated open/close valve, there's another gradual bend that
>equates to a total of a second 90 degree curve. Still, with the low
>air volume (compared to more robust machines), I don't think air
>resistance is a major factor. The tubing seems to be the same 4"
>dryer vent that I have on my home dryer...
>
>Pete Masterson
>'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>aeonix1@...
>On the road at Mill City, PA
>
>
>
>On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>
>> What do you guys think of poking a hole through the body to exhaust
>> the dryer staight out from the machine? The current vent system is a
>> wreck and isn't very effective even if it were rebuilt.
>>
>> Kurt Horvath
>> 95 PT 42
>> 10AC
>>
>> In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well, at least I didn't get a Friday afternoon job. Everything was
>>> properly installed -- floor supported, etc. Must have been a
>>> Wednesday, mid-morning installation....
>>>
>>> I agree that the trap was small, so non-use of the washer and hot
>>> weather could combine to allow some odor problems. My storage
>>> location (in the SF Bay Area) doesn't present much of a challenge
>> to
>>> sewer traps, fortunately...
>>>
>>> Pete Masterson
>>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>>> aeonix1@...
>>> On the road near Scranton, PA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 30, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now were having fun! The dryer exhaust tube is pinched in half,
>>>> obviously when installed they just pushed the washer in and
>> chinked
>>>> the tube. There was enough lint to weave a shirt, the water hose
>> is
>>>> kinked in half and showing signs of cracking, the electric heater
>>>> under the W/D is not mounted very well it's just hanging on from
>> the
>>>> grill and the air powered vent is seized up, the air cylinder is
>>>> functional and the on/off light is working for the first time
>> ever.
>>>> The floor was cut away to allow access for the dryer vent hose but
>>>> they did not block it up in any way. So one side of the closet
>> floor
>>>> is just hanging in air. Must have been a Friday Afternoon. Yes
>> Pete I
>>>> did have to take the door off. No signs of any past water damage
>> so
>>>> far. There is a small water trap but I sure in a few weeks of hot
>>>> weather when not being used it would evaporate. Still looking for
>> the
>>>> elusive Pipe vent, I think it's behind the pantry.
>>>>
>>>> Kurt Horvath
>>>> 95 PT 42
>>>> 10AC
>>>> - In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It also depends on the installation/floor plan in your coach.
>> With
>>>>> the "diagonal aisle" floor plan (with an aisle passing by the
>>>>> bathroom (a side-bath type arrangement), my Splende is located on
>>>> the
>>>>> centerline of the coach, in a full-height closet (linens go above
>>>> the
>>>>> washer). This also puts the outlet for the dryer vent located up
>>>>> high, above the axle area, just in front of the differential. The
>>>>> back of the washer is against the bedroom bulkhead. There is no
>>>>> access from the back side.
>>>>>
>>>>> A search for the vent-exit from the outside proved fruitless.
>> (The
>>>>> dryer was almost totally ineffective, and I made the assumption
>>>> that
>>>>> the vent was blocked.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I eventually had to pull the Splende out of its closet.
>>>>> Unfortunately, the tight installation requires removing one of
>> the
>>>>> hinged doors to the washer/linen closet. Of course, BB used a
>>>> piano
>>>>> hinge with nearly a dozen screws -- at least they only did every
>>>>> other screw.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only a relatively small amount of lint was found behind (and
>>>> under)
>>>>> the washer. I discovered that years of lint build up at the
>> screen
>>>>> (to keep vermin out) at the dryer vent exit had formed a thick
>>>> (1/2
>>>>> inch) nearly solid seal -- it was not wonder the dryer didn't
>> work!
>>>>>
>>>>> The hoses looked to be in good condition -- but replacing them
>>>> with
>>>>> steel-braid replacements would probably be a good precaution (why
>>>>> didn't I think of that while I had the washer out...). The water
>>>>> outlet is, as you said, simply a typical curved 'hook' from the
>>>>> washer feeding into a standing pipe connected with the plumbing.
>> I
>>>>> suspect that the tube isn't sealed to allow venting which might
>>>>> otherwise cause undesirable back pressure. We have not
>> experienced
>>>>> any unpleasant sewer odors from the washer vent line. Isn't there
>>>> a
>>>>> trap to block odors from the holding tank? (I don't recall seeing
>>>> one
>>>>> in my installation, but then I don't recall not seeing one
>> either.)
>>>>>
>>>>> There was no sign (water spots, stains on unpainted wood, etc.)
>>>> that
>>>>> the outlet had ever overflowed. I do not have any moisture
>>>> problems
>>>>> in the washer/linen closet.
>>>>>
>>>>> After cleaning the vent tube and outlet thoroughly, I re-
>> installed
>>>>> the washer as it had previously been -- and now the dryer, while
>>>>> hardly impressive, does dry clothes. Due to the relatively small
>>>> size
>>>>> of the washer and anemic drying performance of the dryer (but it
>>>> does
>>>>> work and is consistent with reports from others) we still do the
>>>> bulk
>>>>> of our laundry at laundromats, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pete Masterson
>>>>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
>>>>> aeonix1@
>>>>> On the road near Scranton, PA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the
>>>> washer
>>>>>> dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just
>>>> finished
>>>>>> vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up
>>>>>> everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that.
>> The
>>>>>> drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no washer
>>>> or
>>>>>> collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into a 1
>>>> ½"
>>>>>> black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found
>> one
>>>>>> source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another
>>>> question.
>>>>>> When
>>>>>> was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the washer?
>>>> Near
>>>>>> as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years
>>>> old.
>>>>>> Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless
>>>> braided
>>>>>> hoses
>>>>>> and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe. Now
>> I
>>>> need
>>>>>> to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is
>>>>>> OK,and to
>>>>>> install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very dusty
>> in
>>>>>> there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on.
>>>>>> Kurt Horvath
>>>>>> 95 Pt 42
>>>>>> 10AC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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[David Brady]

Kurt,



I'd have no problem with it. My coach has a chrome vent attached to the

side of the body - should be available from BB. Works great.



David Brady

'02 LXi, NC



Leroy Eckert wrote:

Mine has side wall vent with a plastic louver vent.The louvers are flat when not working and open when the dryer is on. It works great. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Kurt Horvath net> wrote: From: Kurt Horvath net> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Washer/Dryer To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 4:29 PM What do you guys think of poking a hole through the body to exhaust the dryer staight out from the machine? The current vent system is a wreck and isn't very effective even if it were rebuilt. Kurt Horvath 95 PT 42 10AC In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Pete Masterson "aeonix1@..." wrote: > > Well, at least I didn't get a Friday afternoon job. Everything was > properly installed -- floor supported, etc. Must have been a > Wednesday, mid-morning installation. ... > > I agree that the trap was small, so non-use of the washer and hot > weather could combine to allow some odor problems. My storage > location (in the SF Bay Area) doesn't present much of a challenge to > sewer traps, fortunately. .. > > Pete Masterson > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 > aeonix1@... > On the road near Scranton, PA > > > > On Sep 30, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote: > > > Now were having fun! The dryer exhaust tube is pinched in half, > > obviously when installed they just pushed the washer in and chinked > > the tube. There was enough lint to weave a shirt, the water hose is > > kinked in half and showing signs of cracking, the electric heater > > under the W/D is not mounted very well it's just hanging on from the > > grill and the air powered vent is seized up, the air cylinder is > > functional and the on/off light is working for the first time ever. > > The floor was cut away to allow access for the dryer vent hose but > > they did not block it up in any way. So one side of the closet floor > > is just hanging in air. Must have been a Friday Afternoon. Yes Pete I > > did have to take the door off. No signs of any past water damage so > > far. There is a small water trap but I sure in a few weeks of hot > > weather when not being used it would evaporate. Still looking for the > > elusive Pipe vent, I think it's behind the pantry. > > > > Kurt Horvath > > 95 PT 42 > > 10AC > > - In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Pete Masterson > > wrote: > >> > >> It also depends on the installation/ floor plan in your coach.. With > >> the "diagonal aisle" floor plan (with an aisle passing by the > >> bathroom (a side-bath type arrangement) , my Splende is located on > > the > >> centerline of the coach, in a full-height closet (linens go above > > the > >> washer). This also puts the outlet for the dryer vent located up > >> high, above the axle area, just in front of the differential. The > >> back of the washer is against the bedroom bulkhead. There is no > >> access from the back side. > >> > >> A search for the vent-exit from the outside proved fruitless. (The > >> dryer was almost totally ineffective, and I made the assumption > > that > >> the vent was blocked.) > >> > >> I eventually had to pull the Splende out of its closet. > >> Unfortunately, the tight installation requires removing one of the > >> hinged doors to the washer/linen closet. Of course, BB used a > > piano > >> hinge with nearly a dozen screws -- at least they only did every > >> other screw. > >> > >> Only a relatively small amount of lint was found behind (and > > under) > >> the washer. I discovered that years of lint build up at the screen > >> (to keep vermin out) at the dryer vent exit had formed a thick > > (1/2 > >> inch) nearly solid seal -- it was not wonder the dryer didn't work! > >> > >> The hoses looked to be in good condition -- but replacing them > > with > >> steel-braid replacements would probably be a good precaution (why > >> didn't I think of that while I had the washer out...). The water > >> outlet is, as you said, simply a typical curved 'hook' from the > >> washer feeding into a standing pipe connected with the plumbing. I > >> suspect that the tube isn't sealed to allow venting which might > >> otherwise cause undesirable back pressure. We have not experienced > >> any unpleasant sewer odors from the washer vent line. Isn't there > > a > >> trap to block odors from the holding tank? (I don't recall seeing > > one > >> in my installation, but then I don't recall not seeing one either.) > >> > >> There was no sign (water spots, stains on unpainted wood, etc..) > > that > >> the outlet had ever overflowed. I do not have any moisture > > problems > >> in the washer/linen closet. > >> > >> After cleaning the vent tube and outlet thoroughly, I re- installed > >> the washer as it had previously been -- and now the dryer, while > >> hardly impressive, does dry clothes. Due to the relatively small > > size > >> of the washer and anemic drying performance of the dryer (but it > > does > >> work and is consistent with reports from others) we still do the > > bulk > >> of our laundry at laundromats, etc. > >> > >> Pete Masterson > >> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 > >> aeonix1@ > >> On the road near Scranton, PA > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote: > >> > >>> Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the > > washer > >>> dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just > > finished > >>> vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up > >>> everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that. The > >>> drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no washer > > or > >>> collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into a 1 > > ½" > >>> black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found one > >>> source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another > > question. > >>> When > >>> was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the washer? > > Near > >>> as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years > > old. > >>> Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless > > braided > >>> hoses > >>> and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe. Now I > > need > >>> to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is > >>> OK,and to > >>> install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very dusty in > >>> there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on. > >>> Kurt Horvath > >>> 95 Pt 42 > >>> 10AC > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

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[Leroy Eckert]

I have never had a problem with either, or critters. I think functional efficiency is the key. Engineers consider esthetics because a wrench does not fit their hand. Leroy Eckert 1990 WB-40 Smoke N Mirrors Dahlonega, GA Royale Conversion --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Don Bradner wrote: From: Don Bradner Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Washer/Dryer To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 5:28 PM The louvered vent such as Leroy has, or the flap that is under my vent cover, are standard fair in 10's of thousands of RVs. I've never, ever, heard of them being a problem with water or unwanted air flow. Don Bradner 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder" Posting today by satellite from Selma, North Carolina My location: http://www.bbirdmaps. com/user2. cfm?user= 1 On 10/1/2008 at 5:08 PM Pete Masterson wrote: >The advantage: the shortest and straightest vent line route is >generally preferred for maximum dryer efficiency. > >The disadvantages: aesthetic considerations in integrating the 'hole' >in the side of the coach, plus the need to ensure a good water seal >for inclement weather. > >You'll still need to have some sort of open/close vent valve to >ensure that unwanted air flow (in or out) is not a problem depending >on road speeds, pressure zones along the body while driving, winds, etc.. > >The weather sealing and pressure issues might be very difficult to >handle adequately with a straight through the side mounting. > >I observe that the volume of air through the dryer is considerably >less than that of a home-style dryer. I doubt that the resistance >caused by the current installation is much of a factor. > >Obviously, my coach, with the center-line location of the dryer >actually has a fairly 'straight out' installation. The vent (upper >rear of the machine) has a 90 degree bend, the hose diagonals across >the back slightly to the street side of the coach, then the exit is >out the bottom floor in the wheel/axle area. Due to the mounting of >the air-operated open/close valve, there's another gradual bend that >equates to a total of a second 90 degree curve. Still, with the low >air volume (compared to more robust machines), I don't think air >resistance is a major factor. The tubing seems to be the same 4" >dryer vent that I have on my home dryer... > >Pete Masterson >'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 >"aeonix1%40mac.com" >On the road at Mill City, PA > > > >On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote: > >> What do you guys think of poking a hole through the body to exhaust >> the dryer staight out from the machine? The current vent system is a >> wreck and isn't very effective even if it were rebuilt. >> >> Kurt Horvath >> 95 PT 42 >> 10AC >> >> In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Pete Masterson >> wrote: >>> >>> Well, at least I didn't get a Friday afternoon job. Everything was >>> properly installed -- floor supported, etc. Must have been a >>> Wednesday, mid-morning installation. ... >>> >>> I agree that the trap was small, so non-use of the washer and hot >>> weather could combine to allow some odor problems. My storage >>> location (in the SF Bay Area) doesn't present much of a challenge >> to >>> sewer traps, fortunately. .. >>> >>> Pete Masterson >>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 >>> aeonix1@... >>> On the road near Scranton, PA >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 30, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote: >>> >>>> Now were having fun! The dryer exhaust tube is pinched in half, >>>> obviously when installed they just pushed the washer in and >> chinked >>>> the tube. There was enough lint to weave a shirt, the water hose >> is >>>> kinked in half and showing signs of cracking, the electric heater >>>> under the W/D is not mounted very well it's just hanging on from >> the >>>> grill and the air powered vent is seized up, the air cylinder is >>>> functional and the on/off light is working for the first time >> ever. >>>> The floor was cut away to allow access for the dryer vent hose but >>>> they did not block it up in any way. So one side of the closet >> floor >>>> is just hanging in air. Must have been a Friday Afternoon. Yes >> Pete I >>>> did have to take the door off. No signs of any past water damage >> so >>>> far. There is a small water trap but I sure in a few weeks of hot >>>> weather when not being used it would evaporate. Still looking for >> the >>>> elusive Pipe vent, I think it's behind the pantry. >>>> >>>> Kurt Horvath >>>> 95 PT 42 >>>> 10AC >>>> - In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Pete Masterson >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> It also depends on the installation/ floor plan in your coach. >> With >>>>> the "diagonal aisle" floor plan (with an aisle passing by the >>>>> bathroom (a side-bath type arrangement) , my Splende is located on >>>> the >>>>> centerline of the coach, in a full-height closet (linens go above >>>> the >>>>> washer). This also puts the outlet for the dryer vent located up >>>>> high, above the axle area, just in front of the differential. The >>>>> back of the washer is against the bedroom bulkhead. There is no >>>>> access from the back side. >>>>> >>>>> A search for the vent-exit from the outside proved fruitless. >> (The >>>>> dryer was almost totally ineffective, and I made the assumption >>>> that >>>>> the vent was blocked.) >>>>> >>>>> I eventually had to pull the Splende out of its closet.. >>>>> Unfortunately, the tight installation requires removing one of >> the >>>>> hinged doors to the washer/linen closet. Of course, BB used a >>>> piano >>>>> hinge with nearly a dozen screws -- at least they only did every >>>>> other screw. >>>>> >>>>> Only a relatively small amount of lint was found behind (and >>>> under) >>>>> the washer. I discovered that years of lint build up at the >> screen >>>>> (to keep vermin out) at the dryer vent exit had formed a thick >>>> (1/2 >>>>> inch) nearly solid seal -- it was not wonder the dryer didn't >> work! >>>>> >>>>> The hoses looked to be in good condition -- but replacing them >>>> with >>>>> steel-braid replacements would probably be a good precaution (why >>>>> didn't I think of that while I had the washer out...). The water >>>>> outlet is, as you said, simply a typical curved 'hook' from the >>>>> washer feeding into a standing pipe connected with the plumbing. >> I >>>>> suspect that the tube isn't sealed to allow venting which might >>>>> otherwise cause undesirable back pressure. We have not >> experienced >>>>> any unpleasant sewer odors from the washer vent line. Isn't there >>>> a >>>>> trap to block odors from the holding tank? (I don't recall seeing >>>> one >>>>> in my installation, but then I don't recall not seeing one >> either.) >>>>> >>>>> There was no sign (water spots, stains on unpainted wood, etc.) >>>> that >>>>> the outlet had ever overflowed. I do not have any moisture >>>> problems >>>>> in the washer/linen closet. >>>>> >>>>> After cleaning the vent tube and outlet thoroughly, I re- >> installed >>>>> the washer as it had previously been -- and now the dryer, while >>>>> hardly impressive, does dry clothes. Due to the relatively small >>>> size >>>>> of the washer and anemic drying performance of the dryer (but it >>>> does >>>>> work and is consistent with reports from others) we still do the >>>> bulk >>>>> of our laundry at laundromats, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Pete Masterson >>>>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 >>>>> aeonix1@ >>>>> On the road near Scranton, PA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the >>>> washer >>>>>> dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just >>>> finished >>>>>> vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up >>>>>> everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that. >> The >>>>>> drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no washer >>>> or >>>>>> collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into a 1 >>>> ½" >>>>>> black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found >> one >>>>>> source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another >>>> question. >>>>>> When >>>>>> was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the washer? >>>> Near >>>>>> as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years >>>> old. >>>>>> Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless >>>> braided >>>>>> hoses >>>>>> and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe. Now >> I >>>> need >>>>>> to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is >>>>>> OK,and to >>>>>> install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very dusty >> in >>>>>> there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on. >>>>>> Kurt Horvath >>>>>> 95 Pt 42 >>>>>> 10AC >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >>>> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------ --------- --------- ------ >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> > > >----------- --------- --------- ------- > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

[Kurt Horvath]

Splendide has a very nice vent kit, I ordered the kit with the chrome
vent, I'm lazy it doesn't have to be painted, and the drip pan.

http://www.splendide.com/accessories.htm

Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> The advantage: the shortest and straightest vent line route is
> generally preferred for maximum dryer efficiency.
>
> The disadvantages: aesthetic considerations in integrating
the 'hole'
> in the side of the coach, plus the need to ensure a good water
seal
> for inclement weather.
>
> You'll still need to have some sort of open/close vent valve to
> ensure that unwanted air flow (in or out) is not a problem
depending
> on road speeds, pressure zones along the body while driving, winds,
etc.
>
> The weather sealing and pressure issues might be very difficult to
> handle adequately with a straight through the side mounting.
>
> I observe that the volume of air through the dryer is considerably
> less than that of a home-style dryer. I doubt that the resistance
> caused by the current installation is much of a factor.
>
> Obviously, my coach, with the center-line location of the dryer
> actually has a fairly 'straight out' installation. The vent (upper
> rear of the machine) has a 90 degree bend, the hose diagonals
across
> the back slightly to the street side of the coach, then the exit
is
> out the bottom floor in the wheel/axle area. Due to the mounting
of
> the air-operated open/close valve, there's another gradual bend
that
> equates to a total of a second 90 degree curve. Still, with the
low
> air volume (compared to more robust machines), I don't think air
> resistance is a major factor. The tubing seems to be the same 4"
> dryer vent that I have on my home dryer...
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Mill City, PA
>
>
>
> On Oct 1, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
>
> > What do you guys think of poking a hole through the body to
exhaust
> > the dryer staight out from the machine? The current vent system
is a
> > wreck and isn't very effective even if it were rebuilt.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT 42
> > 10AC
> >
> > In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, at least I didn't get a Friday afternoon job. Everything
was
> >> properly installed -- floor supported, etc. Must have been a
> >> Wednesday, mid-morning installation....
> >>
> >> I agree that the trap was small, so non-use of the washer and hot
> >> weather could combine to allow some odor problems. My storage
> >> location (in the SF Bay Area) doesn't present much of a challenge
> > to
> >> sewer traps, fortunately...
> >>
> >> Pete Masterson
> >> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> >> aeonix1@
> >> On the road near Scranton, PA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 30, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> >>
> >>> Now were having fun! The dryer exhaust tube is pinched in half,
> >>> obviously when installed they just pushed the washer in and
> > chinked
> >>> the tube. There was enough lint to weave a shirt, the water hose
> > is
> >>> kinked in half and showing signs of cracking, the electric
heater
> >>> under the W/D is not mounted very well it's just hanging on from
> > the
> >>> grill and the air powered vent is seized up, the air cylinder is
> >>> functional and the on/off light is working for the first time
> > ever.
> >>> The floor was cut away to allow access for the dryer vent hose
but
> >>> they did not block it up in any way. So one side of the closet
> > floor
> >>> is just hanging in air. Must have been a Friday Afternoon. Yes
> > Pete I
> >>> did have to take the door off. No signs of any past water damage
> > so
> >>> far. There is a small water trap but I sure in a few weeks of
hot
> >>> weather when not being used it would evaporate. Still looking
for
> > the
> >>> elusive Pipe vent, I think it's behind the pantry.
> >>>
> >>> Kurt Horvath
> >>> 95 PT 42
> >>> 10AC
> >>> - In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It also depends on the installation/floor plan in your coach.
> > With
> >>>> the "diagonal aisle" floor plan (with an aisle passing by the
> >>>> bathroom (a side-bath type arrangement), my Splende is located
on
> >>> the
> >>>> centerline of the coach, in a full-height closet (linens go
above
> >>> the
> >>>> washer). This also puts the outlet for the dryer vent located
up
> >>>> high, above the axle area, just in front of the differential.
The
> >>>> back of the washer is against the bedroom bulkhead. There is no
> >>>> access from the back side.
> >>>>
> >>>> A search for the vent-exit from the outside proved fruitless.
> > (The
> >>>> dryer was almost totally ineffective, and I made the assumption
> >>> that
> >>>> the vent was blocked.)
> >>>>
> >>>> I eventually had to pull the Splende out of its closet.
> >>>> Unfortunately, the tight installation requires removing one of
> > the
> >>>> hinged doors to the washer/linen closet. Of course, BB used a
> >>> piano
> >>>> hinge with nearly a dozen screws -- at least they only did
every
> >>>> other screw.
> >>>>
> >>>> Only a relatively small amount of lint was found behind (and
> >>> under)
> >>>> the washer. I discovered that years of lint build up at the
> > screen
> >>>> (to keep vermin out) at the dryer vent exit had formed a thick
> >>> (1/2
> >>>> inch) nearly solid seal -- it was not wonder the dryer didn't
> > work!
> >>>>
> >>>> The hoses looked to be in good condition -- but replacing them
> >>> with
> >>>> steel-braid replacements would probably be a good precaution
(why
> >>>> didn't I think of that while I had the washer out...). The
water
> >>>> outlet is, as you said, simply a typical curved 'hook' from the
> >>>> washer feeding into a standing pipe connected with the
plumbing.
> > I
> >>>> suspect that the tube isn't sealed to allow venting which might
> >>>> otherwise cause undesirable back pressure. We have not
> > experienced
> >>>> any unpleasant sewer odors from the washer vent line. Isn't
there
> >>> a
> >>>> trap to block odors from the holding tank? (I don't recall
seeing
> >>> one
> >>>> in my installation, but then I don't recall not seeing one
> > either.)
> >>>>
> >>>> There was no sign (water spots, stains on unpainted wood, etc.)
> >>> that
> >>>> the outlet had ever overflowed. I do not have any moisture
> >>> problems
> >>>> in the washer/linen closet.
> >>>>
> >>>> After cleaning the vent tube and outlet thoroughly, I re-
> > installed
> >>>> the washer as it had previously been -- and now the dryer,
while
> >>>> hardly impressive, does dry clothes. Due to the relatively
small
> >>> size
> >>>> of the washer and anemic drying performance of the dryer (but
it
> >>> does
> >>>> work and is consistent with reports from others) we still do
the
> >>> bulk
> >>>> of our laundry at laundromats, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> Pete Masterson
> >>>> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> >>>> aeonix1@
> >>>> On the road near Scranton, PA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 30, 2008, at 12:00 AM, Kurt Horvath wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Just tiding up the coach, putting back in the rear wall of the
> >>> washer
> >>>>> dryer closet and wondered dang it's still a bit musty. I just
> >>> finished
> >>>>> vacuuming behind the Splende 2000 last week and had cleaned up
> >>>>> everything. I looked behind it once more. How did I miss that.
> > The
> >>>>> drain from the washer goes into a pipe stand. There is no
washer
> >>> or
> >>>>> collar around it, it's just the washer drain tube stuck into
a 1
> >>> ½"
> >>>>> black pipe. Lots of room to vent back into the closet. I found
> > one
> >>>>> source of unpleasant odor. But that just lead to another
> >>> question.
> >>>>> When
> >>>>> was the last time anyone changed the water hoses for the
washer?
> >>> Near
> >>>>> as I can tell in my coach never. That would make them 13 years
> >>> old.
> >>>>> Nearly triple the recommended service life. New stainless
> >>> braided
> >>>>> hoses
> >>>>> and a some sort of collar or vapor lock for the drain pipe.
Now
> > I
> >>> need
> >>>>> to pull the machine out a bit just make sure the vent tube is
> >>>>> OK,and to
> >>>>> install the new hoses. It did have some lint and was very
dusty
> > in
> >>>>> there. And the beat goes on, and the beat goes on. On and on.
> >>>>> Kurt Horvath
> >>>>> 95 Pt 42
> >>>>> 10AC
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

[Bob Lawrence]

Our bird has the vent vented thru the floor. Put some stainless steel
wool in the hole and haven't had any problems.
Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Branson, Mo.

> What do you guys think of poking a hole through the body to exhaust
> the dryer staight out from the machine? The current vent system is a
> wreck and isn't very effective even if it were rebuilt.
>
> Kurt Horvath
> 95 PT 42
> 10AC

[Kurt Horvath]

One thing that I have noticed is the amount of dirt in the washer/dryer
closet. I attribute it to the 4" hole in the floor above the wheel
well. It has the same characteristics as the dirt in the holding tank
dump bay which also has a hole for the sewer tube and an access hole
for the dump valve in case it needs to be serviced. I am closing off
all holes to the exterior from dust and dirt intrusion. I live on 1
mile of dirt road and have also been know to take the road less
traveled. I `m thinking that this will help keep things a lot cleaner.


I'm almost through with the washer/dryer closet repairs and have
started on the dump bay, new hoses there to and a repair in the cabinet
facade and faucet, the bottom edge has rotted out, and some of the
Formica need to be re glued.

Kurt Horvath
95 PT 42
10AC




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Lawrence"
wrote:
>
> Our bird has the vent vented thru the floor. Put some stainless steel
> wool in the hole and haven't had any problems.
> Bob Lawrence
> 84 PT36
> Branson, Mo.
>
> > What do you guys think of poking a hole through the body to exhaust
> > the dryer staight out from the machine? The current vent system is
a
> > wreck and isn't very effective even if it were rebuilt.
> >
> > Kurt Horvath
> > 95 PT 42
> > 10AC
>