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On way home
10-22-2008, 05:51
Post: #1
On way home


Ron, I wonder if the Sporlan valve got some crud in it when they reintroduced coolant into the system?
Ernie Ekberg
83PT40
Weatherford, Texas



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10-22-2008, 09:04
Post: #2
On way home
Hi all:

I picked up my coach in Calgary on Monday, departed for home on
Tuesday. Engine is running good. Have not used much oil in the first
400 miles. I stopped in Lewistown, MT to spend a couple nights with a
friend who has an S.O.B. It got down to 24 degrees last night, but
today is a little warmer and no moisture in the area.

Everything is fine except I don't have dash heat and I ran into a
snow squall that almost had me blinded on the windshield. Fortunately
it let up before I had to stop. I'm going to put an electric heater
up on the dash to run if I get into something like that again. I
think the gate valve is broken, but the shop says they can replace the
guts without loosing the coolant. I'll look into that when I get home.

We thought maybe there was an air lock, but when we opened the
bleed screw on the heater supply line, there was no pressure. The
solenoid may not be opening, even though I can hear the clicking
sound. Don't have enough time before I leave here to continue the
troubleshooting. My infra-red thermometer read 135 degrees on the
pump side of the valve and 67 degrees on the return side from the heater.

If any of you have any thoughts on this, let me know. Thanks.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
Currently in Lewistown, MT
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10-22-2008, 11:41
Post: #3
On way home
could be that the lines are switched on the pump and thermostat
housing. Open the rear gate and just to the left of the engine, they
both hang downward I think 1 inch? both have 1/4 turn valves????
there must be a check valve in the loop to the cockpit.

I may be way off, even rude to ask but ;what does an inframe cost?
I'm thinking 9 to 14grand Greg94ptCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
wrote:
>
> Hi all:
>
> I picked up my coach in Calgary on Monday, departed for home on
> Tuesday. Engine is running good. Have not used much oil in the
first
> 400 miles. I stopped in Lewistown, MT to spend a couple nights
with a
> friend who has an S.O.B. It got down to 24 degrees last night, but
> today is a little warmer and no moisture in the area.
>
> Everything is fine except I don't have dash heat and I ran
into a
> snow squall that almost had me blinded on the windshield.
Fortunately
> it let up before I had to stop. I'm going to put an electric
heater
> up on the dash to run if I get into something like that again. I
> think the gate valve is broken, but the shop says they can replace
the
> guts without loosing the coolant. I'll look into that when I get
home.
>
> We thought maybe there was an air lock, but when we opened the
> bleed screw on the heater supply line, there was no pressure. The
> solenoid may not be opening, even though I can hear the clicking
> sound. Don't have enough time before I leave here to continue the
> troubleshooting. My infra-red thermometer read 135 degrees on the
> pump side of the valve and 67 degrees on the return side from the
heater.
>
> If any of you have any thoughts on this, let me know. Thanks.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> Currently in Lewistown, MT
>
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10-22-2008, 12:09
Post: #4
On way home
Hi Ron,

More than likely, you have a "dropped" gate. The insides of the
valves strip out or corrode and the gate fuses to the bottom of the
valve. When you try to open the valve, the wheel turns, but does not
lift the gate. Happened to me 2 years ago. Replaced with a ball valve.

Shane Fedeli
85Pt40
Hershey, PA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
wrote:
>
> Hi all:
>
> I picked up my coach in Calgary on Monday, departed for home on
> Tuesday. Engine is running good. Have not used much oil in the first
> 400 miles. I stopped in Lewistown, MT to spend a couple nights with a
> friend who has an S.O.B. It got down to 24 degrees last night, but
> today is a little warmer and no moisture in the area.
>
> Everything is fine except I don't have dash heat and I ran into a
> snow squall that almost had me blinded on the windshield. Fortunately
> it let up before I had to stop. I'm going to put an electric heater
> up on the dash to run if I get into something like that again. I
> think the gate valve is broken, but the shop says they can replace the
> guts without loosing the coolant. I'll look into that when I get home.
>
> We thought maybe there was an air lock, but when we opened the
> bleed screw on the heater supply line, there was no pressure. The
> solenoid may not be opening, even though I can hear the clicking
> sound. Don't have enough time before I leave here to continue the
> troubleshooting. My infra-red thermometer read 135 degrees on the
> pump side of the valve and 67 degrees on the return side from the
heater.
>
> If any of you have any thoughts on this, let me know. Thanks.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> Currently in Lewistown, MT
>
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10-22-2008, 12:52
Post: #5
On way home

On our BB there are two manual gate valves near the engine that allow you to isolate the chassis from the cooling system. If yours has the same the shop may have turned them off to prevent coolant leakage and forgot to turn them back on.
- Chuck Wheeler-
FC 31SB Fort Worth TX


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Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:04 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] On way home



Hi all:

I picked up my coach in Calgary on Monday, departed for home on
Tuesday. Engine is running good. Have not used much oil in the first
400 miles. I stopped in Lewistown, MT to spend a couple nights with a
friend who has an S.O.B. It got down to 24 degrees last night, but
today is a little warmer and no moisture in the area.

Everything is fine except I don't have dash heat and I ran into a
snow squall that almost had me blinded on the windshield. Fortunately
it let up before I had to stop. I'm going to put an electric heater
up on the dash to run if I get into something like that again. I
think the gate valve is broken, but the shop says they can replace the
guts without loosing the coolant. I'll look into that when I get home.

We thought maybe there was an air lock, but when we opened the
bleed screw on the heater supply line, there was no pressure. The
solenoid may not be opening, even though I can hear the clicking
sound. Don't have enough time before I leave here to continue the
troubleshooting. My infra-red thermometer read 135 degrees on the
pump side of the valve and 67 degrees on the return side from the heater.

If any of you have any thoughts on this, let me know. Thanks.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
Currently in Lewistown, MT

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10-22-2008, 13:24
Post: #6
On way home
Good point, the 1/4 turn valves on the 94pt waterpump and thermostat
housing have a blade handle. if the blade is inline with the pipe
flow it is open to pass. if the blade is crossed over the valve and
pipe flow it is closed.
Greg94ptCa

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Wheeler"
wrote:
>
> On our BB there are two manual gate valves near the engine that
allow you to
> isolate the chassis from the cooling system. If yours has the
same the shop
> may have turned them off to prevent coolant leakage and forgot to
turn them
> back on.
>
> - Chuck Wheeler-
> FC 31SB Fort Worth TX
>
>
> _____
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
ronmarabito2002
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:04 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] On way home
>
>
>
> Hi all:
>
> I picked up my coach in Calgary on Monday, departed for home on
> Tuesday. Engine is running good. Have not used much oil in the
first
> 400 miles. I stopped in Lewistown, MT to spend a couple nights
with a
> friend who has an S.O.B. It got down to 24 degrees last night, but
> today is a little warmer and no moisture in the area.
>
> Everything is fine except I don't have dash heat and I ran into a
> snow squall that almost had me blinded on the windshield.
Fortunately
> it let up before I had to stop. I'm going to put an electric heater
> up on the dash to run if I get into something like that again. I
> think the gate valve is broken, but the shop says they can replace
the
> guts without loosing the coolant. I'll look into that when I get
home.
>
> We thought maybe there was an air lock, but when we opened the
> bleed screw on the heater supply line, there was no pressure. The
> solenoid may not be opening, even though I can hear the clicking
> sound. Don't have enough time before I leave here to continue the
> troubleshooting. My infra-red thermometer read 135 degrees on the
> pump side of the valve and 67 degrees on the return side from the
heater.
>
> If any of you have any thoughts on this, let me know. Thanks.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> Currently in Lewistown, MT
>
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10-22-2008, 13:47
Post: #7
On way home
Actually Ernie. There is not a Sporlan Valve there.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, erniecarpet@... wrote:
>
> Ron, I wonder if the Sporlan valve got some crud in it when they
> reintroduced coolant into the system?
>
> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Weatherford, Texas
>
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10-22-2008, 13:51
Post: #8
On way home
Greg: In Canada, it cost $27,500 or $23,000 U.S. Not very pretty,
but they have you over a barrel.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Gregory OConnor"
wrote:
>
> could be that the lines are switched on the pump and thermostat
> housing. Open the rear gate and just to the left of the engine, they
> both hang downward I think 1 inch? both have 1/4 turn valves????
> there must be a check valve in the loop to the cockpit.
>
> I may be way off, even rude to ask but ;what does an inframe cost?
> I'm thinking 9 to 14grand Greg94ptCa
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all:
> >
> > I picked up my coach in Calgary on Monday, departed for home on
> > Tuesday. Engine is running good. Have not used much oil in the
> first
> > 400 miles. I stopped in Lewistown, MT to spend a couple nights
> with a
> > friend who has an S.O.B. It got down to 24 degrees last night, but
> > today is a little warmer and no moisture in the area.
> >
> > Everything is fine except I don't have dash heat and I ran
> into a
> > snow squall that almost had me blinded on the windshield.
> Fortunately
> > it let up before I had to stop. I'm going to put an electric
> heater
> > up on the dash to run if I get into something like that again. I
> > think the gate valve is broken, but the shop says they can replace
> the
> > guts without loosing the coolant. I'll look into that when I get
> home.
> >
> > We thought maybe there was an air lock, but when we opened the
> > bleed screw on the heater supply line, there was no pressure. The
> > solenoid may not be opening, even though I can hear the clicking
> > sound. Don't have enough time before I leave here to continue the
> > troubleshooting. My infra-red thermometer read 135 degrees on the
> > pump side of the valve and 67 degrees on the return side from the
> heater.
> >
> > If any of you have any thoughts on this, let me know. Thanks.
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > Currently in Lewistown, MT
> >
>
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10-22-2008, 13:55
Post: #9
On way home
Shane: The best I can do is replace the inside of the valve. In
order to remove the valve, we would have to pull the water pump. The
valve is too close to the frame to get any tools in there, other than
to remove the guts. I would not have this problem if they had not
closed the valve while working on it. The valve was open when it
arrived there. It might turn out to be something else we haven't
discovered yet.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "sfedeli3" <sfedeli3@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Ron,
>
> More than likely, you have a "dropped" gate. The insides of the
> valves strip out or corrode and the gate fuses to the bottom of the
> valve. When you try to open the valve, the wheel turns, but does not
> lift the gate. Happened to me 2 years ago. Replaced with a ball valve.
>
> Shane Fedeli
> 85Pt40
> Hershey, PA
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ronmarabito2002"
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all:
> >
> > I picked up my coach in Calgary on Monday, departed for home on
> > Tuesday. Engine is running good. Have not used much oil in the first
> > 400 miles. I stopped in Lewistown, MT to spend a couple nights with a
> > friend who has an S.O.B. It got down to 24 degrees last night, but
> > today is a little warmer and no moisture in the area.
> >
> > Everything is fine except I don't have dash heat and I ran into a
> > snow squall that almost had me blinded on the windshield. Fortunately
> > it let up before I had to stop. I'm going to put an electric heater
> > up on the dash to run if I get into something like that again. I
> > think the gate valve is broken, but the shop says they can replace the
> > guts without loosing the coolant. I'll look into that when I get
home.
> >
> > We thought maybe there was an air lock, but when we opened the
> > bleed screw on the heater supply line, there was no pressure. The
> > solenoid may not be opening, even though I can hear the clicking
> > sound. Don't have enough time before I leave here to continue the
> > troubleshooting. My infra-red thermometer read 135 degrees on the
> > pump side of the valve and 67 degrees on the return side from the
> heater.
> >
> > If any of you have any thoughts on this, let me know. Thanks.
> >
> > R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> > Currently in Lewistown, MT
> >
>
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10-22-2008, 13:58
Post: #10
On way home
They are on.

R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Wheeler"
wrote:
>
> On our BB there are two manual gate valves near the engine that
allow you to
> isolate the chassis from the cooling system. If yours has the same
the shop
> may have turned them off to prevent coolant leakage and forgot to
turn them
> back on.
>
> - Chuck Wheeler-
> FC 31SB Fort Worth TX
>
>
> _____
>
> From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ronmarabito2002
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:04 PM
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] On way home
>
>
>
> Hi all:
>
> I picked up my coach in Calgary on Monday, departed for home on
> Tuesday. Engine is running good. Have not used much oil in the first
> 400 miles. I stopped in Lewistown, MT to spend a couple nights with a
> friend who has an S.O.B. It got down to 24 degrees last night, but
> today is a little warmer and no moisture in the area.
>
> Everything is fine except I don't have dash heat and I ran into a
> snow squall that almost had me blinded on the windshield. Fortunately
> it let up before I had to stop. I'm going to put an electric heater
> up on the dash to run if I get into something like that again. I
> think the gate valve is broken, but the shop says they can replace the
> guts without loosing the coolant. I'll look into that when I get home.
>
> We thought maybe there was an air lock, but when we opened the
> bleed screw on the heater supply line, there was no pressure. The
> solenoid may not be opening, even though I can hear the clicking
> sound. Don't have enough time before I leave here to continue the
> troubleshooting. My infra-red thermometer read 135 degrees on the
> pump side of the valve and 67 degrees on the return side from the
heater.
>
> If any of you have any thoughts on this, let me know. Thanks.
>
> R.E. (Ron) Marabito, Dallas, TX 92WB40
> Currently in Lewistown, MT
>
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