Birds Nest Changes

[mneshati2]

Dear Friends,
As you all are painfully aware, the recent economic climate has strained RV
manufacturers
and Dealers to their breaking point and beyond, many venerable brands are out of
business, two very notable bankruptcy cases are National RV and Weekend Warrior,
Fleetwood is now on shaky ground having had their stock de-listed from the New
York
Stock Exchange and trading at the end around .25 cents. Dealers like La Mesa and
Ten
Thousand RVs are closing stores or going completely out of business.

At Blue Bird we remain committed to saving this proud brand and returning it to
its
greatness and to succeed at this effort we must examine every expense and
continue to
right size the company to weather this storm and be fit and able to take
advantage of the
opportunities as our economy revives.

In this process of examining and re-evaluating our expenses we have found it
necessary
to make the tough decision to change the terms of staying at the Birds Nest. To
make this
transition as painless as possible we are trying to communicate it via the
owners forums,
postings at the Birds Nest and in the factory lobby and holding off on the
implementation
date until January 2nd. (Actually for those of you already staying at the Birds
Nest and
enjoying your traditional Christmas/New Years Holiday with us the new rules will
become
effective at the conclusion of your stay and before your next stay).

We have formulated our rates and membership plans to be competitive with other
sites,
and to provide enhanced service, parts and other values if you purchase the
annual
membership plans. We have tried to tailor a plan suited to every budget and
camping
pattern.

We know that some of you, like us, will be disappointed in these changes, but
again, we
are facing extraordinary times the likes of which most of us have never seen
unless we
were around for the great depression.

Many of you, however, have written to me personally and asked what you can do to
support us and our efforts to revive the brand and restore its greatness. Well,
first and
foremost, buy one!!! But if a new Blue Bird isn't in your future, buy one
of our plans, or
if you don't want to prepay a plan, continue to stay with us with these new
rates. Either
way your continued support, faith and encouragement will be key to our success
and
appreciated beyond words. THANKS for your continued support, the plan is below:

WANDERLODGE PREMIER SERVICE PLAN

1. All purchasers of brand new Blue Bird Coaches get a complementary two-year
Platinum
Plus membership to the Wanderlodge Premier Service Plan.

Platinum Plus Plan Membership Benefits Include:
• Free unlimited stays at the Birds Nest.
• 10% discount on all work done at CWH facilities
• 10% discount on all parts purchases
• 20% discount of Rally In The Valley registration
• Plan member may bring a guest with a motor coach up to 6 times per year.
Length
of stay limited to duration of plan members stay.
• Plan membership card.
• Email updates.
• If Rally in the Valley held in the Fort Valley area reservations will be
required and
spaces filled on a first come first serve basis with priority given to plan
members.

2. After the second year Plan Memberships can be bought at the following
levels and
benefits:

1. Platinum level Cost $895.00 per year
• 30 days per year of free Birds Nest stays.
Each additional night at $22.00 per night. 12:00am checkout.
• 10% discount on all work done at CWH facilities.
• 10% discount on all parts purchases.
• 20% discount of Rally In The Valley registration.
• Plan member may bring one guest with a motor coach up to 6 times per year.
Length of stay limited to duration of plan members stay. Guest to stay at lower
park.
• Plan membership card.
• Email updates.
• If Rally in the Valley held in Fort Valley area reservations will be required
and spaces
filled on a first come first serve basis with priority given to plan members.


2. Gold level Cost $695.00 per year
• 15 days per year of free Bird Nest stays.
Each additional night $22.00 per night. 12:00am checkout.
• 10% discount on all work done at CWH facilities.
• 10% discount on al parts purchases.
• 20% discount on Rally in The Valley registration.
• Plan member may bring one guest with a motor coach up to 6 times per year.
Length of stay limited to duration of stay of plan member. Guest to stay at
lower park.
• Plan membership card.
• Email updates.
• If Rally in the Valley held in Fort Valley area reservations will be required
and spaces
filled on a first come first serve basis with priority given to plan members.

3. Silver Level Cost $495.00 per year
• 7 days per year of free birds nest stays.
each additional night $22.00 per night. 12:00am checkout.
• 5% discount on all work done at CWH facilities.
• 5% discount on all parts purchases.
• Plan member may bring one guest with a motor coach up to 3 times per year.
Length of stay limited to plan members duration of stay. Guest to stay at lower
park.
• Plan membership card.
• Email updates.
• If Rally in the Valley held in Fort Valley area reservations will be required
and spaces
filled on a first come first serve basis with priority given to plan members.

BIRDS NEST DAILY RATES

All non-plan member Blue Bird Owners will be subject to the following rates:
• $28.00 per night for stays at the birds nest upper level (subject to
availability)
• $24 per night for stays at the Birds Nest lower level.
• Guest with a motor coach subject to the same rates.
• No discounts on shop work.
• No discounts on parts.
• Reservations are required for large groups.
• All rules and regulations apply.


SERVICE CUSTOMERS

Regardless of brand any service customers that come in for billable or
warrantable service
get two free nights in advance of their service appointment and two nights after
the work
is completed. We do need to be flexible and reasonable on nights after the
service work is
completed as the owner may have a long distance to come back for their coach and
may
have to wait for time off, in addition owners are entitled to a couple nights in
the nest
after service work, if the desire, to confirm the coach work is complete and no
issues arise.

Allen Barbee is the manager of this plan and can be contacted at 478-825-0330 or
by
email at abarbee@...

[Pete Masterson]

Macy,

I don't mean to be picky, but a middle of the night checkout seems a
little rough. Could you have meant 12 P.M. for the check out time?
(12 P.M. is noon, 12 A.M. is midnight)

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Lockhart, TX



On Nov 25, 2008, at 2:03 AM, mneshati2 wrote:
> <snip> 12:00am checkout.
> <snip>

[Macy Neshati]

Peter yes we mean noon, thanks for pointing out the oversight!

Macy

Macy Neshati

Vice President, Sales & Marketing

Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks

Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585

Visit Our Websites: http://www.completecoach.com &http://www.bluebirdcoachworks.com

[Frank Damp]

Military time saves a lot of misunderstandings. Midnight is 00:00, noon
is 12:00.

When I started driving transit, I said to my boss, after he assigned me
a duty that required getting to the operating base at 04:00, " As far
as I'm concerned, 4 o'clock only happens once a day." His response -
"That's right, in the afternoon it's 16:00".

Back when British Rail went on the 24-hour system, as friend called to
find out the time of the last train back to the town where our college
was. "Twenty to eleven" was the reply. He showed up at the station
around 10:30 pm only to be told the last train had left. He said, "but
they said it was at twenty to eleven". The response was "Yes, sir, it
was".

[Pete Masterson]

In my early days working at a railroad, I became aware of "railroad
time." Before the national "Uniform Time Act" that regularized
observance of daylight savings time, the railroads simply stayed on
Standard Time year round. None of that silly military time for the
American railroads ... they used AM and PM -- but to ensure clarity,
trains rarely every arrived or departed exactly at noon or midnight
-- it was the normal course to establish a departure at (say) 12:01
AM -- funny, how adding the extra minute seems to solve the confusion.

The standard time all the time, did generate confusion -- after
giving a train schedule, I'd often be asked, "Is that your time or my
time?" -- even when a local daylight savings time was not in effect.

The Uniform Time Act did solve the problem, since the railroads had
to comply with the law and publish their schedules observing daylight
time. The unintended result was, however, is a bit silly. The
railroads have a rule that no train shall leave its station before
the scheduled time. All over the country, on 'fall back' day, trains
come rolling to a stop and sit for an hour, so that they don't leave
a station before the scheduled time. Of course on 'spring forward'
day, a lot of trains are suddenly "late."

Pete Masterson
'95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
aeonix1@...
On the road at Lockhart, TX



On Nov 25, 2008, at 9:32 PM, Frank Damp wrote:

> Military time saves a lot of misunderstandings. Midnight is 00:00,
> noon
> is 12:00.
>

[erniecarpet@...]

Bruce, I suspect that when business was good the nest was affordable to Bluebird. With the free lunches, free electricity and free upkeep of the clubhouse it is a major drain. I don't blame them for charging. If we were able to utilize the facilities more, then we would purchase a membership.

But my wifes job and our retirement would be in jeopardy if we took off more then we do now.

Ernie Ekberg
83PT40 Wanderlodge
Weatherford, Texas

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[Stephen Birtles]

Railway time is a misnomer
IF someone asks what time will the customer get serviced the answer is
given in minutes.The following question is then asked is that railway
time or real time
real time is the actual time to perform the service
railway time is maybe sometime today or tomorrow

Stephen 77fc35


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Pete Masterson
wrote:
>
> In my early days working at a railroad, I became aware of "railroad
> time." Before the national "Uniform Time Act" that regularized
> observance of daylight savings time, the railroads simply stayed on
> Standard Time year round. None of that silly military time for the
> American railroads ... they used AM and PM -- but to ensure clarity,
> trains rarely every arrived or departed exactly at noon or midnight
> -- it was the normal course to establish a departure at (say) 12:01
> AM -- funny, how adding the extra minute seems to solve the confusion.
>
> The standard time all the time, did generate confusion -- after
> giving a train schedule, I'd often be asked, "Is that your time or my
> time?" -- even when a local daylight savings time was not in effect.
>
> The Uniform Time Act did solve the problem, since the railroads had
> to comply with the law and publish their schedules observing daylight
> time. The unintended result was, however, is a bit silly. The
> railroads have a rule that no train shall leave its station before
> the scheduled time. All over the country, on 'fall back' day, trains
> come rolling to a stop and sit for an hour, so that they don't leave
> a station before the scheduled time. Of course on 'spring forward'
> day, a lot of trains are suddenly "late."
>
> Pete Masterson
> '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> aeonix1@...
> On the road at Lockhart, TX
>
>
>
> On Nov 25, 2008, at 9:32 PM, Frank Damp wrote:
>
> > Military time saves a lot of misunderstandings. Midnight is 00:00,
> > noon
> > is 12:00.
> >
>

[Juergen]

Hi Stephen Your Railroad time is correct. I would like to add that there is also an airline time, The only conversion you need to do to get real time is to compute the fact that an airline minute consists of 240 seconds. So, "we'll be delayed 10 more minutes" means actually 40 more minutes. (Then comes the next ten more minutes, but thats another story) Juergen (been there, done it, witnessed it). Juergen in PA 1991 WLSP 36 --- On Wed, 11/26/08, Stephen Birtles wrote: From: Stephen Birtles Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Birds Nest Changes To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 2:27 PM Railway time is a misnomer IF someone asks what time will the customer get serviced the answer is given in minutes.The following question is then asked is that railway time or real time real time is the actual time to perform the service railway time is maybe sometime today or tomorrow Stephen 77fc35 --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Pete Masterson wrote: > > In my early days working at a railroad, I became aware of "railroad > time." Before the national "Uniform Time Act" that regularized > observance of daylight savings time, the railroads simply stayed on > Standard Time year round. None of that silly military time for the > American railroads ... they used AM and PM -- but to ensure clarity, > trains rarely every arrived or departed exactly at noon or midnight > -- it was the normal course to establish a departure at (say) 12:01 > AM -- funny, how adding the extra minute seems to solve the confusion. > > The standard time all the time, did generate confusion -- after > giving a train schedule, I'd often be asked, "Is that your time or my > time?" -- even when a local daylight savings time was not in effect. > > The Uniform Time Act did solve the problem, since the railroads had > to comply with the law and publish their schedules observing daylight > time. The unintended result was, however, is a bit silly. The > railroads have a rule that no train shall leave its station before > the scheduled time. All over the country, on 'fall back' day, trains > come rolling to a stop and sit for an hour, so that they don't leave > a station before the scheduled time. Of course on 'spring forward' > day, a lot of trains are suddenly "late." > > Pete Masterson > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42 > aeonix1@... > On the road at Lockhart, TX > > > > On Nov 25, 2008, at 9:32 PM, Frank Damp wrote: > > > Military time saves a lot of misunderstandings. Midnight is 00:00, > > noon > > is 12:00. > > >

[birdshill123]

I cannot beieve that this thread has turned into a discussion on
railroad time. Doesn't any one have an opinion on the changes that
Macey laid out? Or do most here not utilize the Nest and BB service? I
see a lot more to Macey's post than paying to utilize the Bird's Nest.
I have a post ready to send but would like to hear from some others
first in case I have overlooked something that is obvious to others and
not me! So what do you think:

1. I dont care as I dont use BB or the nest
2. I think it is OK and will send them a check for $895 post haste.
3. I disagree with what they are doing but am too chicken to post.
4. Some other idea

Where is Greg when we need him. Forget Prop. 8 and get your butt back
here.


Bruce
1988 FC35

[Don Bradner]

You have a catchall "Some other idea" which means you've not overlooked
anything, I guess, but to me there is another obvious answer, which is the one I
would give:

5. I only occasionally use the nest and the nightly fee is fine with me.

On 11/26/2008 at 9:14 PM birdshill123 wrote:

>I cannot beieve that this thread has turned into a discussion on
>railroad time. Doesn't any one have an opinion on the changes that
>Macey laid out? Or do most here not utilize the Nest and BB service? I
>see a lot more to Macey's post than paying to utilize the Bird's Nest.
>I have a post ready to send but would like to hear from some others
>first in case I have overlooked something that is obvious to others and
>not me! So what do you think:
>
>1. I dont care as I dont use BB or the nest
>2. I think it is OK and will send them a check for $895 post haste.
>3. I disagree with what they are doing but am too chicken to post.
>4. Some other idea
>
>Where is Greg when we need him. Forget Prop. 8 and get your butt back
>here.
>
>
>Bruce
>1988 FC35
>
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