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12-20-2008, 06:13
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Has anyone replaced their redi-line with an inverter and ran it on the
redi-line circuit? How is it possible to open the redi-line circuit to power all the AC outlets. I want to run my new inverter from the same location using the same plug to power all the AC outlets in the coach. Haven't had any luck reading posts. How is the redi-line curcuit know when shore power or the gen-set are hot. Harold Prescott '85 FC35 Quartzsite |
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12-20-2008, 08:26
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Bill, I am redirecting your post from my in box. I think I received it
because it was addressed to Wanderlodge Owner instead of the Forum. Ralph Fullenwider Harold, I recently replaced my redi-line with a ProSine 2000. For a short time I used the redi- line wiring but this only powered up the kitchen receptacle and ice maker from the inverter side of the ProSine. Also, the existing circuit does not provide a 30 amp line to run the charger back from the main panel. I was able to use the existing water-tight conduit for my install back and forth from the main and newly installed sub panel. I disconnected and capped thee redi=line wiring from the junction box above the passenger seat and I pulled 6 stranded #10 wires (color coded) from the junction box through the conduit into the basement compartment below the passenger seat. I ran two #10 romex lines back to the house panel from the junction box and installed a sub panel for the circuits to be inverted. This makes for a nice clean installation. If you have more questions or want to see photos, contact me at bgaramella@... NH-Bill --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Prescott" wrote: > > Has anyone replaced their redi-line with an inverter and ran it on the > redi-line circuit? How is it possible to open the redi-line circuit to > power all the AC outlets. I want to run my new inverter from the same > location using the same plug to power all the AC outlets in the coach. > Haven't had any luck reading posts. How is the redi-line curcuit > know when shore power or the gen-set are hot. > > > > Harold Prescott > '85 FC35 > Quartzsite > |
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12-20-2008, 12:40
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Thanks guys, This redi-line replacement that Bill has done sounds like
it must be on a PT rather than on a Forward Control. It would seem to me that there is a way to get the power from the old Redi-line site, through the existing Redi-line wiring without having to run any new line. The kitchen plug is hot when the AC is sourced from either the gen-set,shore power or the redi-line. There must be a place where this plug is isolated. I looked at the schematics for the AC. Still lost! Ralph do you know anything about what I'm trying to describe? Harold Prescott 1985 FC35 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Garamella" (by way of "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > Bill, I am redirecting your post from my in box. I think I received it > because it was addressed to Wanderlodge Owner instead of the Forum. > Ralph Fullenwider > > Harold, > > I recently replaced my redi-line with a ProSine 2000. For a short time I > used the redi- > line wiring but this only powered up the kitchen receptacle and ice maker > from the > inverter side of the ProSine. Also, the existing circuit does not provide a > 30 amp line to > run the charger back from the main panel. > > I was able to use the existing water-tight conduit for my install back and > forth from the > main and newly installed sub panel. > > I disconnected and capped thee redi=line wiring from the junction box above > the > passenger seat and I pulled 6 stranded #10 wires (color coded) from the > junction box > through the conduit into the basement compartment below the passenger > seat. I ran two > #10 romex lines back to the house panel from the junction box and installed > a sub panel > for the circuits to be inverted. This makes for a nice clean installation. > > If you have more questions or want to see photos, contact me at > bgaramella@... > > NH-Bill > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Prescott" > wrote: > > > > Has anyone replaced their redi-line with an inverter and ran it on the > > redi-line circuit? How is it possible to open the redi-line circuit to > > power all the AC outlets. I want to run my new inverter from the same > > location using the same plug to power all the AC outlets in the coach. > > Haven't had any luck reading posts. How is the redi-line curcuit > > know when shore power or the gen-set are hot. > > > > > > > > Harold Prescott > > '85 FC35 > > Quartzsite > > > |
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12-20-2008, 14:27
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HI Harold:
Yes I know what your trying to do. This is one of those, I can see it but can't get there from here things. The Redi line is set up to poser the ice maker, electric curtains the rediline powers the 110vac plug at the counter of the galley and nothing else. There is a relay under the galley sink that is activated when the gen set or shore power are being used, disconnecting the rediline circuit. Then when shore power or gen set is not sensed, <by 2 solenoid relays> the relay pulls in and the rediline circuit works. If you will check the main breaker box in the closet, you will note that the 110ac plugs through out the Coach are on different circuits tied with other breakers for the most part. I dont have my 240a/c print in front of me, will get it out tomorrow and do some checking, but, as others have done, the number 12 romex used for the rediline is not large enough to power up much more than what is on that line, and certainly no a/c units. And I have not put pencil to paper but the microwave would be marginal. That and the contact rating on the relay in that circuit pretty much limits what is run on it alone. Question: My '85FC did not have the two 30 amp circuits and the 50 amp. But the wiring was in the Coach but not the plugs, how is your 85 wired? Safe travels, Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond" Duncan, Oklahoma At 12:40 AM 12/21/2008 +0000, you wrote: >Thanks guys, This redi-line replacement that Bill has done sounds like >it must be on a PT rather than on a Forward Control. > >It would seem to me that there is a way to get the power from the old >Redi-line site, through the existing Redi-line wiring without having >to run any new line. >The kitchen plug is hot when the AC is sourced from either the >gen-set,shore power or the redi-line. >There must be a place where this plug is isolated. >I looked at the schematics for the AC. Still lost! > >Ralph do you know anything about what I'm trying to describe? > >Harold Prescott >1985 FC35 > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Garamella" >(by way of "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > > > Bill, I am redirecting your post from my in box. I think I received it > > because it was addressed to Wanderlodge Owner instead of the Forum. > > Ralph Fullenwider > > > > Harold, > > > > I recently replaced my redi-line with a ProSine 2000. For a short >time I > > used the redi- > > line wiring but this only powered up the kitchen receptacle and ice >maker > > from the > > inverter side of the ProSine. Also, the existing circuit does not >provide a > > 30 amp line to > > run the charger back from the main panel. > > > > I was able to use the existing water-tight conduit for my install >back and > > forth from the > > main and newly installed sub panel. > > > > I disconnected and capped thee redi=line wiring from the junction >box above > > the > > passenger seat and I pulled 6 stranded #10 wires (color coded) from the > > junction box > > through the conduit into the basement compartment below the passenger > > seat. I ran two > > #10 romex lines back to the house panel from the junction box and >installed > > a sub panel > > for the circuits to be inverted. This makes for a nice clean >installation. > > > > If you have more questions or want to see photos, contact me at > > bgaramella@... > > > > NH-Bill > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Prescott" > > > wrote: > > > > > > Has anyone replaced their redi-line with an inverter and ran it >on the > > > redi-line circuit? How is it possible to open the redi-line >circuit to > > > power all the AC outlets. I want to run my new inverter from the same > > > location using the same plug to power all the AC outlets in the >coach. > > > Haven't had any luck reading posts. How is the redi-line curcuit > > > know when shore power or the gen-set are hot. > > > > > > > > > > > > Harold Prescott > > > '85 FC35 > > > Quartzsite > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > |
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12-20-2008, 17:06
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Sorry Harold,
The inverter installation I described earlier in this thread is in our 83FC 35 SB. Bill Garamella 1983 FC 35 SB "Casa Billisa" --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Prescott" wrote: > > Thanks guys, This redi-line replacement that Bill has done sounds like > it must be on a PT rather than on a Forward Control. > > It would seem to me that there is a way to get the power from the old > Redi-line site, through the existing Redi-line wiring without having > to run any new line. > The kitchen plug is hot when the AC is sourced from either the > gen-set,shore power or the redi-line. > There must be a place where this plug is isolated. > I looked at the schematics for the AC. Still lost! > > Ralph do you know anything about what I'm trying to describe? > > Harold Prescott > 1985 FC35 > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Garamella" > (by way of "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > > > Bill, I am redirecting your post from my in box. I think I received it > > because it was addressed to Wanderlodge Owner instead of the Forum. > > Ralph Fullenwider > > > > Harold, > > > > I recently replaced my redi-line with a ProSine 2000. For a short > time I > > used the redi- > > line wiring but this only powered up the kitchen receptacle and ice > maker > > from the > > inverter side of the ProSine. Also, the existing circuit does not > provide a > > 30 amp line to > > run the charger back from the main panel. > > > > I was able to use the existing water-tight conduit for my install > back and > > forth from the > > main and newly installed sub panel. > > > > I disconnected and capped thee redi=line wiring from the junction > box above > > the > > passenger seat and I pulled 6 stranded #10 wires (color coded) from the > > junction box > > through the conduit into the basement compartment below the passenger > > seat. I ran two > > #10 romex lines back to the house panel from the junction box and > installed > > a sub panel > > for the circuits to be inverted. This makes for a nice clean > installation. > > > > If you have more questions or want to see photos, contact me at > > bgaramella@ > > > > NH-Bill > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Prescott" > > > wrote: > > > > > > Has anyone replaced their redi-line with an inverter and ran it > on the > > > redi-line circuit? How is it possible to open the redi-line > circuit to > > > power all the AC outlets. I want to run my new inverter from the same > > > location using the same plug to power all the AC outlets in the > coach. > > > Haven't had any luck reading posts. How is the redi-line curcuit > > > know when shore power or the gen-set are hot. > > > > > > > > > > > > Harold Prescott > > > '85 FC35 > > > Quartzsite > > > > > > |
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12-21-2008, 03:23
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Hello Ralph.
If I understand you correctly, yes my coach has 2-35amp and the 50amp hook up. I don't intend to run anything that draws very many amps. [TV, cell phone charger, laptop, etc. Harold Prescott '85 FC35 side bath --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > HI Harold: > > Yes I know what your trying to do. This is one of those, I can see it but > can't get there from here things. > > The Redi line is set up to poser the ice maker, electric curtains curtains then > the rediline powers the 110vac plug at the counter of the galley and > nothing else. There is a relay under the galley sink that is activated when > the gen set or shore power are being used, disconnecting the rediline > circuit. Then when shore power or gen set is not sensed, <by 2 solenoid > relays> the relay pulls in and the rediline circuit works. > > If you will check the main breaker box in the closet, you will note that > the 110ac plugs through out the Coach are on different circuits tied with > other breakers for the most part. > > I dont have my 240a/c print in front of me, will get it out tomorrow and do > some checking, but, as others have done, the number 12 romex used for the > rediline is not large enough to power up much more than what is on that > line, and certainly no a/c units. And I have not put pencil to paper but > the microwave would be marginal. That and the contact rating on the relay > in that circuit pretty much limits what is run on it alone. > > Question: > My '85FC did not have the two 30 amp circuits and the 50 amp. But the > wiring was in the Coach but not the plugs, how is your 85 wired? > > Safe travels, > > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider > 84FC35 "Ruff Diamond" > Duncan, Oklahoma > > At 12:40 AM 12/21/2008 +0000, you wrote: > >Thanks guys, This redi-line replacement that Bill has done sounds like > >it must be on a PT rather than on a Forward Control. > > > >It would seem to me that there is a way to get the power from the old > >Redi-line site, through the existing Redi-line wiring without having > >to run any new line. > >The kitchen plug is hot when the AC is sourced from either the > >gen-set,shore power or the redi-line. > >There must be a place where this plug is isolated. > >I looked at the schematics for the AC. Still lost! > > > >Ralph do you know anything about what I'm trying to describe? > > > >Harold Prescott > >1985 FC35 > > > > > > > > > > > >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Garamella" > >(by way of "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > > > > > Bill, I am redirecting your post from my in box. I think I received it > > > because it was addressed to Wanderlodge Owner instead of the Forum. > > > Ralph Fullenwider > > > > > > Harold, > > > > > > I recently replaced my redi-line with a ProSine 2000. For a short > >time I > > > used the redi- > > > line wiring but this only powered up the kitchen receptacle and ice > >maker > > > from the > > > inverter side of the ProSine. Also, the existing circuit does not > >provide a > > > 30 amp line to > > > run the charger back from the main panel. > > > > > > I was able to use the existing water-tight conduit for my install > >back and > > > forth from the > > > main and newly installed sub panel. > > > > > > I disconnected and capped thee redi=line wiring from the junction > >box above > > > the > > > passenger seat and I pulled 6 stranded #10 wires (color coded) from the > > > junction box > > > through the conduit into the basement compartment below the passenger > > > seat. I ran two > > > #10 romex lines back to the house panel from the junction box and > >installed > > > a sub panel > > > for the circuits to be inverted. This makes for a nice clean > >installation. > > > > > > If you have more questions or want to see photos, contact me at > > > bgaramella@ > > > > > > NH-Bill > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Prescott" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Has anyone replaced their redi-line with an inverter and ran it > >on the > > > > redi-line circuit? How is it possible to open the redi-line > >circuit to > > > > power all the AC outlets. I want to run my new inverter from the same > > > > location using the same plug to power all the AC outlets in the > >coach. > > > > Haven't had any luck reading posts. How is the redi-line curcuit > > > > know when shore power or the gen-set are hot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harold Prescott > > > > '85 FC35 > > > > Quartzsite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > |
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12-21-2008, 07:10
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Bill,
My mistake, after looking at your pictures it's plain to see what you are talking about. I'm replacing the rediline with an inverter only. I have left the chargers in the original location. Harold Prescott '85 FC35 --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Garamella" > > Sorry Harold, > > The inverter installation I described earlier in this thread is in our 83FC 35 > > Bill Garamella > 1983 FC 35 SB "Casa Billisa" > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Prescott" > wrote: > > > > Thanks guys, This redi-line replacement that Bill has done sounds like > > it must be on a PT rather than on a Forward Control. > > > > It would seem to me that there is a way to get the power from the old > > Redi-line site, through the existing Redi-line wiring without having > > to run any new line. > > The kitchen plug is hot when the AC is sourced from either the > > gen-set,shore power or the redi-line. > > There must be a place where this plug is isolated. > > I looked at the schematics for the AC. Still lost! > > > > Ralph do you know anything about what I'm trying to describe? > > > > Harold Prescott > > 1985 FC35 > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Garamella" > > (by way of "Ralph L. Fullenwider" > > > > > > Bill, I am redirecting your post from my in box. I think I received it > > > because it was addressed to Wanderlodge Owner instead of the Forum. > > > Ralph Fullenwider > > > > > > Harold, > > > > > > I recently replaced my redi-line with a ProSine 2000. For a short > > time I > > > used the redi- > > > line wiring but this only powered up the kitchen receptacle and ice > > maker > > > from the > > > inverter side of the ProSine. Also, the existing circuit does not > > provide a > > > 30 amp line to > > > run the charger back from the main panel. > > > > > > I was able to use the existing water-tight conduit for my install > > back and > > > forth from the > > > main and newly installed sub panel. > > > > > > I disconnected and capped thee redi=line wiring from the junction > > box above > > > the > > > passenger seat and I pulled 6 stranded #10 wires (color coded) from the > > > junction box > > > through the conduit into the basement compartment below the passenger > > > seat. I ran two > > > #10 romex lines back to the house panel from the junction box and > > installed > > > a sub panel > > > for the circuits to be inverted. This makes for a nice clean > > installation. > > > > > > If you have more questions or want to see photos, contact me at > > > bgaramella@ > > > > > > NH-Bill > > > > > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Harold Prescott" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Has anyone replaced their redi-line with an inverter and ran it > > on the > > > > redi-line circuit? How is it possible to open the redi-line > > circuit to > > > > power all the AC outlets. I want to run my new inverter from the same > > > > location using the same plug to power all the AC outlets in the > > coach. > > > > Haven't had any luck reading posts. How is the redi-line curcuit > > > > know when shore power or the gen-set are hot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harold Prescott > > > > '85 FC35 > > > > Quartzsite > > > > > > > > > > |
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