Blue Bird

[Macy Neshati]

Greg, what damage was done is very personal. I won’t respond on the forum anymore,, if you want to email me one on one, I will always be happy to talk to you.



Macy

Macy Neshati

Vice President, Sales & Marketing

Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks

Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585

Visit Our Websites: http://www.completecoach.com &http://www.bluebirdcoachworks.com

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From: timvasqz <Petrover1@...>

Reply-To: <WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com>

Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:56:42 -0000

To: <WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Blue Bird









Macy, this is a social forum of opinions. Bruce is a good guy, and

a halfway good chili cook. my opinion. What damage was done when he

prompted your last post?

Greg ofTim&Greg

94ptca



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com <"WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"> , "mneshati2"

wrote:

>

> Unbelievable, even faced with the tough times and decisions that

need to be made there

> are Sunday armchair quarter backs thinking they know it all.

Bruce, you have NO IDEA what

> went into our due diligence, and in my opinion NO RIGHT to

critique us and tell the forum

> our efforts sucked. You are the worst kind of spectator standing

on the sidelines and

> telling the rest of us what is right and wrong and who knew what

they were doing and

> didn't.

>

> You are dead wrong about the declining sales, and as late as the

spring of 2007 the

> University of Michigan, the industry experts on the RV industry

published an economic

> forecast the indicated continued strong growth in 2010. I still

have my copy, part of our

> due diligence, still got yours? How about Statistical Survey,

through the end of the first

> quarter of 2007, the latest data available, class A shipments were

up. I still have my

> copies, do you?

>

> We are still very pursuing options and doing what we can to get

through this and I have

> had all I will take from the Nay Sayers, the doom and gloomers and

especially the know it

> all experts like you. You won't be able to goad another response

from me.

>

> Those of you who have been a friend and an ally, you have my email

address and my cell

> phone, I will talk to you individually any time, but I am done

with this forums, and you all

> have Mr. birdshill Bruce here to thank for it.

>

> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com <"WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"> , "birdshill123"

wrote:

> >

> > I have to disagree with Tim. I think they went into this Blind.

Their

> > due diligence sucked. Class A sales have been falling since

2007. The

> > plant was robbed and raped of everything that was necessary to

build

> > the units. They had to go out and buy equipment. So what exactly

did

> > they get?? maybe the chassis that was needed for the Express

Bus, the

> > name and some worthless real estate. Apparently the parts have

been

> > somewhat depleted. What will happen to the parts that are still

on the

> > shelves? What about the cataloging and other information? Mye

xperience

> > is that a lot of that gets thrown into dumpsters. Maybe Randy

could do

> > some dumpster diving?? Tim: If they had this plannned from the

> > beggining what was the logic??

> >

> > Bruce

> >

> > Orphaned 1988 FC 35

> >

>

[Ross]

I completely agree with Macy's annoyance. Ignorance leads to arrogance
which is rude and personally inconsiderate. We are in financial
uncharted waters that are extremely stressful.
Compassion is the order of the day. Especially here.
Best Wishes to Macy and all at CCW.

Ross
2006 LXi








--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Macy Neshati
wrote:
>
> Greg, what damage was done is very personal. I won¹t respond on the
forum
> anymore,, if you want to email me one on one, I will always be happy
to talk
> to you.
>
> Macy
> Macy Neshati
> Vice President, Sales & Marketing
> Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks
> Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585
> Visit Our Websites: http://www.completecoach.com
&http://www.bluebirdcoachworks.com
>
>
>
> From: timvasqz > Reply-To:
> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:56:42 -0000
> To:
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Blue Bird
>
>
>
>
> Macy, this is a social forum of opinions. Bruce is a good guy, and
> a halfway good chili cook. my opinion. What damage was done when he
> prompted your last post?
> Greg ofTim&Greg
> 94ptca
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , "mneshati2"
> wrote:
> >
> > Unbelievable, even faced with the tough times and decisions that
> need to be made there
> > are Sunday armchair quarter backs thinking they know it all.
> Bruce, you have NO IDEA what
> > went into our due diligence, and in my opinion NO RIGHT to
> critique us and tell the forum
> > our efforts sucked. You are the worst kind of spectator standing
> on the sidelines and
> > telling the rest of us what is right and wrong and who knew what
> they were doing and
> > didn't.
> >
> > You are dead wrong about the declining sales, and as late as the
> spring of 2007 the
> > University of Michigan, the industry experts on the RV industry
> published an economic
> > forecast the indicated continued strong growth in 2010. I still
> have my copy, part of our
> > due diligence, still got yours? How about Statistical Survey,
> through the end of the first
> > quarter of 2007, the latest data available, class A shipments were
> up. I still have my
> > copies, do you?
> >
> > We are still very pursuing options and doing what we can to get
> through this and I have
> > had all I will take from the Nay Sayers, the doom and gloomers and
> especially the know it
> > all experts like you. You won't be able to goad another response
> from me.
> >
> > Those of you who have been a friend and an ally, you have my email
> address and my cell
> > phone, I will talk to you individually any time, but I am done
> with this forums, and you all
> > have Mr. birdshill Bruce here to thank for it.
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> , "birdshill123"
> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have to disagree with Tim. I think they went into this Blind.
> Their
> > > due diligence sucked. Class A sales have been falling since
> 2007. The
> > > plant was robbed and raped of everything that was necessary to
> build
> > > the units. They had to go out and buy equipment. So what exactly
> did
> > > they get?? maybe the chassis that was needed for the Express
> Bus, the
> > > name and some worthless real estate. Apparently the parts have
> been
> > > somewhat depleted. What will happen to the parts that are still
> on the
> > > shelves? What about the cataloging and other information? Mye
> xperience
> > > is that a lot of that gets thrown into dumpsters. Maybe Randy
> could do
> > > some dumpster diving?? Tim: If they had this plannned from the
> > > beggining what was the logic??
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > > Orphaned 1988 FC 35
> > >
> >
>

[birdshill123]

For Macy:

Methinks thou dost protest too much. Here is part of one article
published in Dec. 2007. Although all the mfrs. were optimistic the
sales figures wer not.


RV sales roll with the economy
By John Schwartz Published: December 3, 2007



LOUISVILLE, Kentucky: The magician, dapper and gray-haired, got
laughs with card tricks and other feats that were already old when he
was still young.

Dick Stoner drew a crowd around an enormous banner that
read "Crossroads" - the company paying him so that it could stand out
from more than a hundred other manufacturers at the Recreation
Vehicle Industry Association's annual dealer convention in the
Kentucky Exposition Center.

It is no small trick to attract throngs from some 15,000 footsore
attendees at a show that covers 925,000 square feet, or about 86,000
square meters, and is packed with vehicles costing $5,000 to $1
million.

But Stoner is very good at his craft. He blends punch lines and
prestidigitation with frequent repetition of the Crossroads moniker.

After all, the $15 billion RV industry could use a little magic just
now. To read news releases, things are going great. Public relations
materials sent to reporters in the weeks before the trade show noted
that the current five-year sales period was the best in the past 30
years and that a consumer survey from the University of Michigan had
projected a 3.8 percent rise in shipments to manufacturers in the
coming year.


Winnebago announced during the show that its revenue was falling for
the first time in six years. And the industry association released
updated projections indicating that sales would probably decline 4.8
percent next year compared with 2007.

With an uncertain economy, tightening credit and gas prices through
the roof, many would-be captains of land yachts are rethinking their
dreams.

Other issues also loom in a world increasingly worried about waste,
sustainability and global warming. It might be getting harder to love
a beast that gulps a gallon of fuel every seven miles.

Little wonder, then, that one word is on many lips. Bruce Hertzke,
the chief executive of Winnebago, acknowledges that the times
are "challenging." In an interview, Richard Riegel, chief operating
officer of Thor Industries, the parent company of 11 RV makers,
including Crossroads and Airstream, invoked the specter of
a "challenging market."

Mark Warmoth, whose Weekend Warrior Trailer Manufacturing
pioneered "toy haulers" - RV's with garage space in the back for all-
terrain vehicles, motorcycles and other implements of outdoor fun -
is less prone to euphemism.

"A lot of people," he said, "are laying down and dying."

But, before anyone starts into a "serves them right" sermon about
wretched excess, fuel consumption or the driving habits of snowbirds,
consider this: Challenging times for the industry generally mean
challenging times for many other Americans as well, because RV slumps
tend to precede economic recessions.

RVs are a "highly discretionary" purchase, said Matt Howard, the vice
president for marketing at Country Coach, a manufacturer of luxury
craft that are roughly large enough to have their own ZIP code.

"The only reason somebody needs our motor coach is because they tell
themselves they need our motor coach," he said.

Manufacturers say they are optimistic that the downturn is temporary.

[Bob Lawrence]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mneshati2" wrote:
>
> Unbelievable, even faced with the tough times and decisions that
need to be made there
> are Sunday armchair quarter backs thinking they know it all. Bruce,
you have NO IDEA what
> went into our due diligence, and in my opinion NO RIGHT to critique
us and tell the forum
> our efforts sucked. You are the worst kind of spectator standing on
the sidelines and
> telling the rest of us what is right and wrong and who knew what
they were doing and
> didn't.
>
> You are dead wrong about the declining sales, and as late as the
spring of 2007 the
> University of Michigan, the industry experts on the RV industry
published an economic
> forecast the indicated continued strong growth in 2010. I still
have my copy, part of our
> due diligence, still got yours? How about Statistical Survey,
through the end of the first
> quarter of 2007, the latest data available, class A shipments were
up. I still have my
> copies, do you?
>
> We are still very pursuing options and doing what we can to get
through this and I have
> had all I will take from the Nay Sayers, the doom and gloomers and
especially the know it
> all experts like you. You won't be able to goad another response
from me.
>
> Those of you who have been a friend and an ally, you have my email
address and my cell
> phone, I will talk to you individually any time, but I am done with
this forums, and you all
> have Mr. birdshill Bruce here to thank for it.

Well Macy,
I am very sorry about the closing.
We had planned to stop by the factory in Oct to have some work done.
Don't take what some say on this forum personally. They don't know
the score. Only your company does.
I bought my bird 7 years ago because of this forum.
The knowledge base here is incredible.
I hope the company weathers the storm and comes back strong.

Bob Lawrence
84 PT36
Workcamping in Laguna Atascosta NWR in Texas

[birdshill123]

Pete Masterson:

Actually transit bus sales are at all time highs. Or at least for
some companies. New Flyer Undustries , a Canadian Company, is
runnng extra shifts and hiring more staff to keep up with orders.
Here is their January Pres release.


Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada; January 15, 2009

New Flyer Industries Inc. (TSX:NFI.UN) ("New Flyer" or
the "Company"), the leading manufacturer of heavy-duty transit
vehicles in Canada and the United States, announced today that total
new orders reported during fiscal 2008 totaled 4,815 buses (6,690
equivalent production units or "EUs") for a total of US $2.78 billion
in orders. This reflects a win rate of 64% of tenders in which New
Flyer participated. These orders are for a variety of vehicle
configurations, including 35-, 40- and 60-foot buses with clean
diesel, diesel-electric hybrid, gasoline-electric hybrid and
compressed natural gas (CNG) propulsion systems. In addition, these
orders are from both current and new customers.

New Flyer's order backlog as of December 28, 2008 was 9,531 EUs,
which represents an increase of 38% in comparison to the 6,916 EUs in
backlog at January 1, 2008. The value of the order backlog as of
December 28, 2008 of US $4.1 billion has increased by 44% compared to
the US $2.8 billion backlog at the start of 2008. Given current
market conditions, management does not expect cancellations in orders.

A breakdown of the percentage of the total backlog of 9,531 EUs
available for conversion to firm orders is shown in the table below.

Bus Length Hybrid Electric Diesel CNG and Other Alternatives
40' and under 21% 18% 13%
60' articulated 43% 4% 1%

Firm orders included in the order backlog as of December 28, 2008
totaled US $ 1.2 billion or 2,498 equivalent units which is
consistent with the January 1, 2008 firm orders of US $1.2 billion or
2,844 equivalent units.

As of December 28, 2008, options included in the order backlog
totaled US $2.9 billion or 7,033 equivalent units. In comparison
options included in the January 1, 2008 order backlog totaled US $1.6
billion or 4,072 equivalent units. The Company is pleased to report
that 99.5% of available options at the beginning of Fiscal 2008 were
either exercised or remain available for future conversion to firm
orders. Options included in the December 28, 2008 order backlog
available for exercise by year are shown below.

Year EU Options Available
2009 686
2010 755
2011 1,102
2012 1,580
2013 2,910

Currently, there are a total of 9,852 EUs in the order pipeline for
heavy-duty transit buses for 2009; these include bids that have been
submitted, bids currently in process, and anticipated bid activity to
the end of the year based on transit customers' fleet procurement
plans.

NOTE: All dollar amounts are stated in US currency based on an
exchange rate of US $1.00 = Cdn $1.21 to calculate the value of the
Canadian contracts in this release.

About New Flyer

New Flyer is the leading manufacturer of heavy-duty transit buses in
the United States and Canada. The Company's three facilities -- in
Winnipeg, MB, St. Cloud, MN and Crookston, MN - are all ISO 9001, ISO
14001 and OHSAS 18001 certified. With a skilled workforce of
approximately 2,400 employees, New Flyer is a technology leader,
offering the broadest product line in the industry, including drive
systems powered by clean diesel, LNG, CNG and electric trolley as
well as energy-efficient gasoline-electric and diesel-electric hybrid
vehicles. All products are supported with an industry-leading,
comprehensive parts and service network. New Flyer's Income Deposit
Securities are traded on the Toronto Stock Exchange under the symbol
NFI.UN. Further information is available on Company's web site at
http://www.newflyer.com.

Forward-Looking Statements

This press release may contain forward-looking statements relating to
expected future events and financial and operating results of New
Flyer and New Flyer Industries Canada ULC ("NFI ULC") that involve
risks and uncertainties. Although the forward-looking statements
contained in this press release are based upon what management
believes to be reasonable assumptions, investors cannot be assured
that actual results will be consistent with these forward-looking
statements, and the differences may be material. Actual results may
differ materially from management expectations as projected in such
forward-looking statements for a variety of reasons, including market
and general economic conditions and the other risks and uncertainties
discussed in the materials filed with the Canadian securities
regulatory authorities and available on SEDAR at http://www.sedar.com. Due
to the potential impact of these factors, New Flyer and NFI ULC
disclaim any intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-
looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future
events or otherwise, unless required by applicable law.

For further information, please contact:
New Flyer Industries Inc.
Glenn Asham
Chief Financial Officer
Tel: 204-224-1251




I would think that CCW's transit bus refurb. operation would show
similar results.


Bruce

[cfsomers@...]

I just happened on the conversation that is going on. From what I gather
it sounds like bluebird is closing. If I am wrong than that is good, but
either way this forum has provided a lot of information for everyone who
has or would like to have one of these great machines.
To critize the workings of the company or take personal attacks on an
individual is outragest.
These are tough times for everyone and we should be thankful that they
have been able to what they could.
If you have nothing to do then attack someone who is making a difference
then maybe you are the one having the problem.
I enjoy comimg out reading the different tidbits of information that is
avialable to keep my 81fc35 operational.
I know that I may not have been real active in conversing out here, but
have been here for several years reading all the information.

Enough now

Chuck Somers
81FC35
Ormond Beach, FL

>
> I completely agree with Macy's annoyance. Ignorance leads to arrogance
> which is rude and personally inconsiderate. We are in financial
> uncharted waters that are extremely stressful.
> Compassion is the order of the day. Especially here.
> Best Wishes to Macy and all at CCW.
>
> Ross
> 2006 LXi
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Macy Neshati
> wrote:
>>
>> Greg, what damage was done is very personal. I won¹t respond on the
> forum
>> anymore,, if you want to email me one on one, I will always be happy
> to talk
>> to you.
>>
>> Macy
>> Macy Neshati
>> Vice President, Sales & Marketing
>> Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks
>> Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585
>> Visit Our Websites: http://www.completecoach.com
> &http://www.bluebirdcoachworks.com
>>
>>
>>
>> From: timvasqz >> Reply-To:
>> Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:56:42 -0000
>> To:
>> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Blue Bird
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Macy, this is a social forum of opinions. Bruce is a good guy, and
>> a halfway good chili cook. my opinion. What damage was done when he
>> prompted your last post?
>> Greg ofTim&Greg
>> 94ptca
>>
>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>> , "mneshati2"
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Unbelievable, even faced with the tough times and decisions that
>> need to be made there
>> > are Sunday armchair quarter backs thinking they know it all.
>> Bruce, you have NO IDEA what
>> > went into our due diligence, and in my opinion NO RIGHT to
>> critique us and tell the forum
>> > our efforts sucked. You are the worst kind of spectator standing
>> on the sidelines and
>> > telling the rest of us what is right and wrong and who knew what
>> they were doing and
>> > didn't.
>> >
>> > You are dead wrong about the declining sales, and as late as the
>> spring of 2007 the
>> > University of Michigan, the industry experts on the RV industry
>> published an economic
>> > forecast the indicated continued strong growth in 2010. I still
>> have my copy, part of our
>> > due diligence, still got yours? How about Statistical Survey,
>> through the end of the first
>> > quarter of 2007, the latest data available, class A shipments were
>> up. I still have my
>> > copies, do you?
>> >
>> > We are still very pursuing options and doing what we can to get
>> through this and I have
>> > had all I will take from the Nay Sayers, the doom and gloomers and
>> especially the know it
>> > all experts like you. You won't be able to goad another response
>> from me.
>> >
>> > Those of you who have been a friend and an ally, you have my email
>> address and my cell
>> > phone, I will talk to you individually any time, but I am done
>> with this forums, and you all
>> > have Mr. birdshill Bruce here to thank for it.
>> >
>> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>> , "birdshill123"
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I have to disagree with Tim. I think they went into this Blind.
>> Their
>> > > due diligence sucked. Class A sales have been falling since
>> 2007. The
>> > > plant was robbed and raped of everything that was necessary to
>> build
>> > > the units. They had to go out and buy equipment. So what exactly
>> did
>> > > they get?? maybe the chassis that was needed for the Express
>> Bus, the
>> > > name and some worthless real estate. Apparently the parts have
>> been
>> > > somewhat depleted. What will happen to the parts that are still
>> on the
>> > > shelves? What about the cataloging and other information? Mye
>> xperience
>> > > is that a lot of that gets thrown into dumpsters. Maybe Randy
>> could do
>> > > some dumpster diving?? Tim: If they had this plannned from the
>> > > beggining what was the logic??
>> > >
>> > > Bruce
>> > >
>> > > Orphaned 1988 FC 35
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>

[Dorn Hetzel]

Macy,

Are you able to comment on what is likely to become of the remaining parts inventory for
older coaches?

Best Regards,

Dorn Hetzel
77FC35
Hogansville, GA

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Macy Neshati <"macy@completecoach.com"> wrote:

Greg, what damage was done is very personal. I won't respond on the forum anymore,, if you want to email me one on one, I will always be happy to talk to you.



Macy

Macy Neshati

Vice President, Sales & Marketing

Complete Coach Works & Blue Bird Coachworks

Office: 951-684-9585 Cell: 951-836-6525 Fax: 951-684-9585

Visit Our Websites: www.completecoach.com &www.bluebirdcoachworks.com

---

From: timvasqz <Petrover1@...>

Reply-To: <WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com>

Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:56:42 -0000

To: <WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Blue Bird

Macy, this is a social forum of opinions. Bruce is a good guy, and

a halfway good chili cook. my opinion. What damage was done when he

prompted your last post?

Greg ofTim&Greg

94ptca

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com <"WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"> , "mneshati2"

wrote:

>

> Unbelievable, even faced with the tough times and decisions that

need to be made there

> are Sunday armchair quarter backs thinking they know it all.

Bruce, you have NO IDEA what

> went into our due diligence, and in my opinion NO RIGHT to

critique us and tell the forum

> our efforts sucked. You are the worst kind of spectator standing

on the sidelines and

> telling the rest of us what is right and wrong and who knew what

they were doing and

> didn't.

>

> You are dead wrong about the declining sales, and as late as the

spring of 2007 the

> University of Michigan, the industry experts on the RV industry

published an economic

> forecast the indicated continued strong growth in 2010. I still

have my copy, part of our

> due diligence, still got yours? How about Statistical Survey,

through the end of the first

> quarter of 2007, the latest data available, class A shipments were

up. I still have my

> copies, do you?

>

> We are still very pursuing options and doing what we can to get

through this and I have

> had all I will take from the Nay Sayers, the doom and gloomers and

especially the know it

> all experts like you. You won't be able to goad another response

from me.

>

> Those of you who have been a friend and an ally, you have my email

address and my cell

> phone, I will talk to you individually any time, but I am done

with this forums, and you all

> have Mr. birdshill Bruce here to thank for it.

>

> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com <"WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com"> , "birdshill123"

wrote:

> >

> > I have to disagree with Tim. I think they went into this Blind.

Their

> > due diligence sucked. Class A sales have been falling since

2007. The

> > plant was robbed and raped of everything that was necessary to

build

> > the units. They had to go out and buy equipment. So what exactly

did

> > they get?? maybe the chassis that was needed for the Express

Bus, the

> > name and some worthless real estate. Apparently the parts have

been

> > somewhat depleted. What will happen to the parts that are still

on the

> > shelves? What about the cataloging and other information? Mye

xperience

> > is that a lot of that gets thrown into dumpsters. Maybe Randy

could do

> > some dumpster diving?? Tim: If they had this plannned from the

> > beggining what was the logic??

> >

> > Bruce

> >

> > Orphaned 1988 FC 35

> >

>

[Steve Pfiffner]

In the opinion of a Wannabee (everyone gets an opinion right?)

perhaps Bruce could have been a bit more diplomatic and Macy

a bit less sensitive. I happen to agree with Bruce's basic thesis

that there is something wrong in not seeing the handwriting on the

wall long before any part of 2007. In june '05 I bought a new '04

Nissan Titan unsold off the dealer lot for 24K (sticker 31K) cause the market for the hottest new pickup at the time had collapsed.

Now it is a real shame to lose Macy at the forum, but step carefully, if you have a genuine interest in old Birds and the later years of the FC in particular Bruce is "the" authority on this forum.

Time and time again a problem has been mentioned and who immediately comes to the rescue with "Been there, done that and by the way the part number you need is "XXXX-YYYYY"!

Bruce jot down my email because if you decide that Bird is extra in your life call me FIRST!

Steve

[birdshill123]

Steve:

You have me mixed up with another forum member. Have never been an
expert nor will I ever be one. But there are lots of knowledgeable
members in this forum. I will not upset Macy further with any more
comments but will add: I do give you credit to have the B-lls to come
onto the forum. There are no CEO's of any companies who enter the world
of forums. There is a reason for the lack of participation. Any
comments made by owners are just that: The view from the other side.
You, on the other hand, have a personal and financial interest in the
company and will naturally be more sensitive to comments.

Bruce

1988 FC35

[timvasqz]

Bruce, just wish them luck 'cause I know you too are a nice guy like
Macy.

On to another subject, your Chili isnt realy that good. You got most
of the Q'08 votes because wearing that hat it was assumed you are a
pro chef. (Sold the sizzle, not the steak) I had hoped to see you
back at Q this year to arrange a blindfold taste up against our 'USA
BB Best Chili Chef' but I guess your due diligence proved sucessful
in maintining your "North American BB Chili Chef Title".

I can still tast your Chili, every time my tractor hits a bump
Gregory O'Connor ofTim&Greg
94ptCa


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "birdshill123"
wrote:
>
> Steve:
>
> You have me mixed up with another forum member. Have never been
an
> expert nor will I ever be one. But there are lots of knowledgeable
> members in this forum. I will not upset Macy further with any more
> comments but will add: I do give you credit to have the B-lls to
come
> onto the forum. There are no CEO's of any companies who enter the
world
> of forums. There is a reason for the lack of participation. Any
> comments made by owners are just that: The view from the other
side.
> You, on the other hand, have a personal and financial interest in
the
> company and will naturally be more sensitive to comments.
>
> Bruce
>
> 1988 FC35
>