Seized Electric Clutch Fan on my 3208

[pattypape]

Try the horton site,

http://www.hortonww.com/catalog/mod_sear...ber=990128

Bill 88 FC Michigan


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "davidkerryedwards"
wrote:
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> Anyone know if this Horton fan clutch will work?
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/991400-FA...AT-32\
08_W0QQitemZ370197963203QQcmdZViewItem
>
> kerry
> 82 FC 35
> Denver
>

[davidkerryedwards]

It shows that clutch as working on a Wanderlodge from 84-93. Wonder if it will
work on earlier FC's?

kerry
82 FC 35
Denver

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "pattypape" wrote:
>
>
> Try the horton site,
>
> http://www.hortonww.com/catalog/mod_sear...ber=990128
>
> Bill 88 FC Michigan
>

[Andy Coleman]

Wow -

Thank you everyone for all the great responses to my question.

Believe it or not, the engineer who designed our electric clutch fans in the
early 80s works for a company named Sepac in Elmira, NY. His name is Mike.

I spoke to him in the morning and he asked if he could take a look at my clutch.
I'm going to mail it to him tomorrow. I'll let you all know how it turns out -
I might be wasting my mula.

I keep wondering how many horses a clutch fan robs from our already HP starved
3208 engines.

I was just looking at electric fans.

This fan - http://www.flex-a-lite.com/auto/html/mon...ctric.html pulls
5,500 CFM of air.

Does anybody know how many CFM the stock electric clutch fan pulled when
engaged? Does 5,500 CFM come close?

I searched old posts and know that many people have already discussed this
topic. I just wonder if some company will develop the technology to provide the
same cooling electrically.

Andy Coleman
83' FC35
Spring Lake Hts., NJ


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, david edwards
wrote:
>
> As Bob pointed out, there are no parts available for the electric fan system.
I know lots of people have converted to the Horton fan but I'm wondering what
fans were available for 3208's in other applications. Ford trucks had the
engine. Did they use electric or air fans? Or, did they have a viscous clutch?
>
> Kerry FC 35
> Denver
>

[Ernie Ekberg]

I know when I first bought our FC, all of a sudden the fan kicked in- thought I'd blown the engine. Of course, this was before there was any forum to help out. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair --- On Tue, 5/12/09, Andy Coleman wrote: From: Andy Coleman Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re:Seized Electric Clutch Fan on my 3208 To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 5:20 PM Wow - Thank you everyone for all the great responses to my question. Believe it or not, the engineer who designed our electric clutch fans in the early 80s works for a company named Sepac in Elmira, NY. His name is Mike. I spoke to him in the morning and he asked if he could take a look at my clutch. I'm going to mail it to him tomorrow. I'll let you all know how it turns out - I might be wasting my mula. I keep wondering how many horses a clutch fan robs from our already HP starved 3208 engines. I was just looking at electric fans. This fan - http://www.flex- a-lite.com/ auto/html/ monster-electric .html pulls 5,500 CFM of air. Does anybody know how many CFM the stock electric clutch fan pulled when engaged? Does 5,500 CFM come close? I searched old posts and know that many people have already discussed this topic. I just wonder if some company will develop the technology to provide the same cooling electrically. Andy Coleman 83' FC35 Spring Lake Hts., NJ --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", david edwards wrote: > > As Bob pointed out, there are no parts available for the electric fan system. I know lots of people have converted to the Horton fan but I'm wondering what fans were available for 3208's in other applications. Ford trucks had the engine. Did they use electric or air fans? Or, did they have a viscous clutch? > > Kerry FC 35 > Denver >

[freewill2008]

Andy - Someone on this list did some home-brew engineering on this question a
while back. As I remember, it would be challenging to get enough electric fan
cooling into the available space.

Electric fans don't save any HP anyway because the alternator also draws engine
HP. There's no free lunch.

Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Coleman" wrote:
>
> Wow -
>
> Thank you everyone for all the great responses to my question.
>
> Believe it or not, the engineer who designed our electric clutch fans in the
early 80s works for a company named Sepac in Elmira, NY. His name is Mike.
>
> I spoke to him in the morning and he asked if he could take a look at my
clutch. I'm going to mail it to him tomorrow. I'll let you all know how it
turns out - I might be wasting my mula.
>
> I keep wondering how many horses a clutch fan robs from our already HP starved
3208 engines.
>
> I was just looking at electric fans.
>
> This fan - http://www.flex-a-lite.com/auto/html/mon...ctric.html pulls
5,500 CFM of air.
>
> Does anybody know how many CFM the stock electric clutch fan pulled when
engaged? Does 5,500 CFM come close?
>
> I searched old posts and know that many people have already discussed this
topic. I just wonder if some company will develop the technology to provide the
same cooling electrically.
>
> Andy Coleman
> 83' FC35
> Spring Lake Hts., NJ
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, david edwards
wrote:
> >
> > As Bob pointed out, there are no parts available for the electric fan
system. I know lots of people have converted to the Horton fan but I'm
wondering what fans were available for 3208's in other applications. Ford
trucks had the engine. Did they use electric or air fans? Or, did they have a
viscous clutch?
> >
> > Kerry FC 35
> > Denver
> >
>

[david edwards]

Ernie, same thing here. I thought the afterburner had kicked in and I was about to take off. Kerry 82 FC 35 Denver

[michaelhohnstein]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Coleman" wrote:
>
> Wow -
>
> Thank you everyone for all the great responses to my question.
>
> Believe it or not, the engineer who designed our electric clutch fans in the
early 80s works for a company named Sepac in Elmira, NY. His name is Mike.
>
> I spoke to him in the morning and he asked if he could take a look at my
clutch. I'm going to mail it to him tomorrow. I'll let you all know how it
turns out - I might be wasting my mula.
>
> I keep wondering how many horses a clutch fan robs from our already HP starved
3208 engines.
>
> I was just looking at electric fans.
>
> This fan - http://www.flex-a-lite.com/auto/html/mon...ctric.html pulls
5,500 CFM of air.
>
> Does anybody know how many CFM the stock electric clutch fan pulled when
engaged? Does 5,500 CFM come close?
>
> I searched old posts and know that many people have already discussed this
topic. I just wonder if some company will develop the technology to provide the
same cooling electrically.
>
> Andy Coleman
> 83' FC35
> Spring Lake Hts., NJ
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, david edwards
wrote:
> >
> > As Bob pointed out, there are no parts available for the electric fan
system. I know lots of people have converted to the Horton fan but I'm
wondering what fans were available for 3208's in other applications. Ford
trucks had the engine. Did they use electric or air fans? Or, did they have a
viscous clutch?
> >
> > Kerry FC 35
> > Denver
> >
>Forget electric fans, been there, done that, it does not work.
If Mike can help you, all the better. Other wise the only option is the Horton
air clutch. Need a Horton fan to go with the new clutch.
Bob Griesel knows the numbers, as he went through the drill this spring.
MH

[Chuck Wheeler]

I agree with Mike.Don't consider an electric fan.If the rest of the cooling system is in good working order the fan will very seldom engage,but when it does you need all the cooling you can get! Replaced my electric with a Horton. I don't think it was the one BB used, but Inland Truck did not have any problem getting one for a 3208. I bought a fan from another place, it is plastic or fiberglass, quieter than the original medal fan and moves a lot more air. I still have the electric fan and clutch, but the plates are worn down to the rivets.

- Chuck Wheeler-

1982 FC 31SB Fort Worth TX

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From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of michaelhohnstein
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 10:20 PM
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re:Seized Electric Clutch Fan on my 3208

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Andy Coleman" ...> wrote:
>
> Wow -
>
> Thank you everyone for all the great responses to my question.
>
> Believe it or not, the engineer who designed our electric clutch fans in the early 80s works for a company named Sepac in Elmira, NY. His name is Mike.
>
> I spoke to him in the morning and he asked if he could take a look at my clutch. I'm going to mail it to him tomorrow. I'll let you all know how it turns out - I might be wasting my mula.
>
> I keep wondering how many horses a clutch fan robs from our already HP starved 3208 engines.
>
> I was just looking at electric fans.
>
> This fan - http://www.flex-a-lite.com/auto/html/monster-electric.html pulls 5,500 CFM of air.
>
> Does anybody know how many CFM the stock electric clutch fan pulled when engaged? Does 5,500 CFM come close?
>
> I searched old posts and know that many people have already discussed this topic. I just wonder if some company will develop the technology to provide the same cooling electrically.
>
> Andy Coleman
> 83' FC35
> Spring Lake Hts., NJ
>
>
> --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", david edwards > wrote:
> >
> > As Bob pointed out, there are no parts available for the electric fan system. I know lots of people have converted to the Horton fan but I'm wondering what fans were available for 3208's in other applications. Ford trucks had the engine. Did they use electric or air fans? Or, did they have a viscous clutch?
> >
> > Kerry FC 35
> > Denver
> >
>Forget electric fans, been there, done that, it does not work.
If Mike can help you, all the better. Other wise the only option is the Horton air clutch. Need a Horton fan to go with the new clutch.
Bob Griesel knows the numbers, as he went through the drill this spring.
MH

[susanmarycamilleri]

Kerry

Looked through my paperwork and could not find the part number.

Peter Haggins
78 Fc 35'
Prairie Dog

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "davidkerryedwards"
wrote:
>
> Anyone know if this early viscous clutch is a straightforward adaptation on to
the 3208 that had the electric clutch? Peter, do you have the part number?
Since most of these electric clutches are probably reaching the end of their
useful lives, it might be good to know if a person could carry a relatively
inexpensive replacement part in anticipation of the electric one giving up the
ghost.
>
> Kerry
> 82 FC 35
> Denver
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "susanmarycamilleri"
wrote:
> >
> >
> > My 78 35' FC has a viscous fan clutch. I replaced it a few years ago because
I thought that it was not working properly. It had a Ford DH truck number on it.
All HD Ford truck stuff is now Sterling. I ordered the clutch from Sterling. As
I remember it was about $500 Canadian, delivered. I used the old fan.
> >
> > Peter Haggins
> > 78 35' FC
> > Prairie Dog
> >
>

[Ernie Ekberg]

I think that was Mike Hohenstein who did that research. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair --- On Tue, 5/12/09, freewill2008 wrote: From: freewill2008 Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re:Seized Electric Clutch Fan on my 3208 To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 8:04 PM Andy - Someone on this list did some home-brew engineering on this question a while back. As I remember, it would be challenging to get enough electric fan cooling into the available space. Electric fans don't save any HP anyway because the alternator also draws engine HP. There's no free lunch. Bob Griesel '84 FC31 WLII WA --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "Andy Coleman" wrote: > > Wow - > > Thank you everyone for all the great responses to my question. > > Believe it or not, the engineer who designed our electric clutch fans in the early 80s works for a company named Sepac in Elmira, NY. His name is Mike. > > I spoke to him in the morning and he asked if he could take a look at my clutch. I'm going to mail it to him tomorrow. I'll let you all know how it turns out - I might be wasting my mula. > > I keep wondering how many horses a clutch fan robs from our already HP starved 3208 engines. > > I was just looking at electric fans. > > This fan - http://www.flex- a-lite.com/ auto/html/ monster-electric .html pulls 5,500 CFM of air. > > Does anybody know how many CFM the stock electric clutch fan pulled when engaged? Does 5,500 CFM come close? > > I searched old posts and know that many people have already discussed this topic. I just wonder if some company will develop the technology to provide the same cooling electrically. > > Andy Coleman > 83' FC35 > Spring Lake Hts., NJ > > > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", david edwards wrote: > > > > As Bob pointed out, there are no parts available for the electric fan system. I know lots of people have converted to the Horton fan but I'm wondering what fans were available for 3208's in other applications. Ford trucks had the engine. Did they use electric or air fans? Or, did they have a viscous clutch? > > > > Kerry FC 35 > > Denver > > >