WARNING BB Towing

[rogerwwebb@...]

ouch ...

thanks for the reminder .... I dread the day my BB has to be towed ... I'll be the wreck ..

Roger Webb

91 WBWL

Cedar Rapids, IA

In a message dated 5/26/2009 8:08:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, joedana0502@... writes:

I have a 1990 WB40 that needed to be towed. The towing company convinced me that they didn't need to disconnect the drive line if we were going a short distance and if we left the engine idling. Well after 3 miles the transmission was smoking like it was on fire. I then had another towing company tow the bus 150 miles to an Allison transmission repair shop. Not only were all the part inside burned up the core was also damaged to the point it had to be replaced. Total cost for this repair was $25.000. This was two months ago and I am still waiting to get it back. After a lot work the towing company is paying for the transmission, but I am still staying in motels and eating out which I am having to pay for. We are full timers. A word to the wise Allison told me they make NO automatic transmission that can be towed ANY distance without disconnecting the drive shaft from Pickups to buses and 18 wheelers. I hope this will save somebody else a lot of problems and expense.

Joe Blankenship
1990 WB40
Panama,Fl

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[joedana0502]

I have a 1990 WB40 that needed to be towed. The towing company convinced me that
they didn't need to disconnect the drive line if we were going a short distance
and if we left the engine idling. Well after 3 miles the transmission was
smoking like it was on fire. I then had another towing company tow the bus 150
miles to an Allison transmission repair shop. Not only were all the part inside
burned up the core was also damaged to the point it had to be replaced. Total
cost for this repair was $25.000. This was two months ago and I am still waiting
to get it back. After a lot work the towing company is paying for the
transmission, but I am still staying in motels and eating out which I am having
to pay for. We are full timers. A word to the wise Allison told me they make NO
automatic transmission that can be towed ANY distance without disconnecting the
drive shaft from Pickups to buses and 18 wheelers. I hope this will save
somebody else a lot of problems and expense.

Joe Blankenship
1990 WB40
Panama,Fl

[Rob Robinson]

I feel your pain. A couple of years ago the starter in my 94 went flaky and I was on a car ferry. Worried that I might not get the rig started I called Allison in Coburg Or and they said a wrecker could tow me very slowly off the ferry but no more than a couple of hundred feet. Given the risk I am glad I got it running and didn't need the tow. There was no way the ferry was going to wait while a wrecker did the disconnect. I hope you go after the towing company for all your out of pocket expenses.

2009/5/26 joedana0502 <"joedana0502@yahoo.com">

I have a 1990 WB40 that needed to be towed. The towing company convinced me that they didn't need to disconnect the drive line if we were going a short distance and if we left the engine idling. Well after 3 miles the transmission was smoking like it was on fire. I then had another towing company tow the bus 150 miles to an Allison transmission repair shop. Not only were all the part inside burned up the core was also damaged to the point it had to be replaced. Total cost for this repair was $25.000. This was two months ago and I am still waiting to get it back. After a lot work the towing company is paying for the transmission, but I am still staying in motels and eating out which I am having to pay for. We are full timers. A word to the wise Allison told me they make NO automatic transmission that can be towed ANY distance without disconnecting the drive shaft from Pickups to buses and 18 wheelers. I hope this will save somebody else a lot of problems and expense.



Joe Blankenship

1990 WB40

Panama,Fl

--
Rob, Sue and Joey Robinson
94 WLWB

[bubblerboy64]

I'd be interested in knowing if the tow truck operator lost his job over that
one. Now you would think if this is UNIVERSAL to Alison transmissions the
fellow would know that. Mighty expensive mistake. On the other hand. How in
the world do you get $25,000 in a transmission. I know stuff is expensive but
that seems rather much. I would think $10,000 would be more then enough.
Perhaps some one can explain if there is explaining to do. I too would be
looking for personal expenses but know that it's likely not going to happen.

John Heckman
1987 PT 36
Shippensburg Pa
>
> I feel your pain. A couple of years ago the starter in my 94 went flaky and
> I was on a car ferry. Worried that I might not get the rig started I called
> Allison in Coburg Or and they said a wrecker could tow me very slowly off
> the ferry but no more than a couple of hundred feet. Given the risk I am
> glad I got it running and didn't need the tow. There was no way the ferry
> was going to wait while a wrecker did the disconnect. I hope you go after
> the towing company for all your out of pocket expenses.
>
> 2009/5/26 joedana0502
>
> >
> >
> > I have a 1990 WB40 that needed to be towed. The towing company convinced me
> > that they didn't need to disconnect the drive line if we were going a short
> > distance and if we left the engine idling. Well after 3 miles the
> > transmission was smoking like it was on fire. I then had another towing
> > company tow the bus 150 miles to an Allison transmission repair shop. Not
> > only were all the part inside burned up the core was also damaged to the
> > point it had to be replaced. Total cost for this repair was $25.000. This
> > was two months ago and I am still waiting to get it back. After a lot work
> > the towing company is paying for the transmission, but I am still staying in
> > motels and eating out which I am having to pay for. We are full timers. A
> > word to the wise Allison told me they make NO automatic transmission that
> > can be towed ANY distance without disconnecting the drive shaft from Pickups
> > to buses and 18 wheelers. I hope this will save somebody else a lot of
> > problems and expense.
> >
> > Joe Blankenship
> > 1990 WB40
> > Panama,Fl
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Rob, Sue and Joey Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>

[joedana0502]

The cost seem very high to me also. As they explained it to me. It took them 4
days just to get the transmission out. It had been in there for 17 years. They
had to totally remove the bedroom. The bed, water tank, water heater had to come
out to get to a plate under the bed. The inside of the transmission ran around
$10,000 and the core was another $5,000 thats the main ports and then labor.
This towing company has been in business for 15 years. The owner said he tows
this way all the time without any problems. This is why I was having so much
trouble getting him to pay (four weeks). Have you every tried to collect from a
tow company it's not something you want to do.

Joe Blankenship
1990 WB40
Panama City Beach Fl




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" wrote:
>
> I'd be interested in knowing if the tow truck operator lost his job over that
one. Now you would think if this is UNIVERSAL to Alison transmissions the
fellow would know that. Mighty expensive mistake. On the other hand. How in
the world do you get $25,000 in a transmission. I know stuff is expensive but
that seems rather much. I would think $10,000 would be more then enough.
Perhaps some one can explain if there is explaining to do. I too would be
looking for personal expenses but know that it's likely not going to happen.
>
> John Heckman
> 1987 PT 36
> Shippensburg Pa
> >
> > I feel your pain. A couple of years ago the starter in my 94 went flaky and
> > I was on a car ferry. Worried that I might not get the rig started I called
> > Allison in Coburg Or and they said a wrecker could tow me very slowly off
> > the ferry but no more than a couple of hundred feet. Given the risk I am
> > glad I got it running and didn't need the tow. There was no way the ferry
> > was going to wait while a wrecker did the disconnect. I hope you go after
> > the towing company for all your out of pocket expenses.
> >
> > 2009/5/26 joedana0502
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a 1990 WB40 that needed to be towed. The towing company convinced
me
> > > that they didn't need to disconnect the drive line if we were going a
short
> > > distance and if we left the engine idling. Well after 3 miles the
> > > transmission was smoking like it was on fire. I then had another towing
> > > company tow the bus 150 miles to an Allison transmission repair shop. Not
> > > only were all the part inside burned up the core was also damaged to the
> > > point it had to be replaced. Total cost for this repair was $25.000. This
> > > was two months ago and I am still waiting to get it back. After a lot work
> > > the towing company is paying for the transmission, but I am still staying
in
> > > motels and eating out which I am having to pay for. We are full timers. A
> > > word to the wise Allison told me they make NO automatic transmission that
> > > can be towed ANY distance without disconnecting the drive shaft from
Pickups
> > > to buses and 18 wheelers. I hope this will save somebody else a lot of
> > > problems and expense.
> > >
> > > Joe Blankenship
> > > 1990 WB40
> > > Panama,Fl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rob, Sue and Joey Robinson
> > 94 WLWB
> >
>

[jburgessx2]

Two towing stories:

- I had a van stolen from my front yard a few years back. Some kids decided to
do some joyriding and then destroy the evidence by burning it up. So, I had my
van stolen and burned to the ground and the police found it at 4:30 in the
morning. They had it towed. I got a call from the police in the morning with
the report. I went to the towing company to find the van completely burned to
the ground with zero salvageable on it. The towing company made me pay for the
tow in the middle of the night and the storage cost. My insurance didn't cover
the cost (no steal then burn it up insurance) so I had to foot the $250 bill -
an insult to me. I wish I could have found those kids.... and I had thought
about taking retribution with the towing company as well. One would think they
wouldn't be liable when someone comes to your property, steals your vehicle,
burns it up and you have to foot the entire bill - hardly seems fair...

- I had my Beaver (with Allison) towed twice without unhooking the drive shaft
with zero problems. Both drivers claimed there was no problem towing an Allison
for short distances at low speeds and they had done so on many occasions. So,
it seemed to work okay for me and the Beaver. I'm wondering if there was some
other issue involved with your Allison because I do believe they get towed daily
without disconnecting the drive shaft since most drivers do it.

Jerry
85 PT40

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "joedana0502" wrote:
>
> The cost seem very high to me also. As they explained it to me. It took them 4
days just to get the transmission out. It had been in there for 17 years. They
had to totally remove the bedroom. The bed, water tank, water heater had to come
out to get to a plate under the bed. The inside of the transmission ran around
$10,000 and the core was another $5,000 thats the main ports and then labor.
> This towing company has been in business for 15 years. The owner said he tows
this way all the time without any problems. This is why I was having so much
trouble getting him to pay (four weeks). Have you every tried to collect from a
tow company it's not something you want to do.
>
> Joe Blankenship
> 1990 WB40
> Panama City Beach Fl
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" wrote:
> >
> > I'd be interested in knowing if the tow truck operator lost his job over
that one. Now you would think if this is UNIVERSAL to Alison transmissions the
fellow would know that. Mighty expensive mistake. On the other hand. How in
the world do you get $25,000 in a transmission. I know stuff is expensive but
that seems rather much. I would think $10,000 would be more then enough.
Perhaps some one can explain if there is explaining to do. I too would be
looking for personal expenses but know that it's likely not going to happen.
> >
> > John Heckman
> > 1987 PT 36
> > Shippensburg Pa
> > >
> > > I feel your pain. A couple of years ago the starter in my 94 went flaky
and
> > > I was on a car ferry. Worried that I might not get the rig started I
called
> > > Allison in Coburg Or and they said a wrecker could tow me very slowly off
> > > the ferry but no more than a couple of hundred feet. Given the risk I am
> > > glad I got it running and didn't need the tow. There was no way the ferry
> > > was going to wait while a wrecker did the disconnect. I hope you go after
> > > the towing company for all your out of pocket expenses.
> > >
> > > 2009/5/26 joedana0502
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a 1990 WB40 that needed to be towed. The towing company convinced
me
> > > > that they didn't need to disconnect the drive line if we were going a
short
> > > > distance and if we left the engine idling. Well after 3 miles the
> > > > transmission was smoking like it was on fire. I then had another towing
> > > > company tow the bus 150 miles to an Allison transmission repair shop.
Not
> > > > only were all the part inside burned up the core was also damaged to the
> > > > point it had to be replaced. Total cost for this repair was $25.000.
This
> > > > was two months ago and I am still waiting to get it back. After a lot
work
> > > > the towing company is paying for the transmission, but I am still
staying in
> > > > motels and eating out which I am having to pay for. We are full timers.
A
> > > > word to the wise Allison told me they make NO automatic transmission
that
> > > > can be towed ANY distance without disconnecting the drive shaft from
Pickups
> > > > to buses and 18 wheelers. I hope this will save somebody else a lot of
> > > > problems and expense.
> > > >
> > > > Joe Blankenship
> > > > 1990 WB40
> > > > Panama,Fl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rob, Sue and Joey Robinson
> > > 94 WLWB
> > >
> >
>

[Steve Pfiffner]

 I was wondering if somehow the retarder got turned on, three miles towed fighting it would explain a lot of heat!

 

 Steve

 Wannabee

 

On 5/26/09, <b class="gmail_sendername">jburgessx2[/b] <"jburgessx2@yahoo.com"> wrote:

Two towing stories:

- I had a van stolen from my front yard a few years back.  Some kids decided to do some joyriding and then destroy the evidence by burning it up.  So, I had my van stolen and burned to the ground and the police found it at 4:30 in the morning.  They had it towed.  I got a call from the police in the morning with the report.  I went to the towing company to find the van completely burned to the ground with zero salvageable on it.  The towing company made me pay for the tow in the middle of the night and the storage cost.  My insurance didn't cover the cost (no steal then burn it up insurance) so I had to foot the $250 bill - an insult to me.  I wish I could have found those kids.... and I had thought about taking retribution with the towing company as well.  One would think they wouldn't be liable when someone comes to your property, steals your vehicle, burns it up and you have to foot the entire bill - hardly seems fair...


- I had my Beaver (with Allison) towed twice without unhooking the drive shaft with zero problems.  Both drivers claimed there was no problem towing an Allison for short distances at low speeds and they had done so on many occasions.  So, it seemed to work okay for me and the Beaver.  I'm wondering if there was some other issue involved with your Allison because I do believe they get towed daily without disconnecting the drive shaft since most drivers do it.


Jerry
85 PT40

--- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", "joedana0502" wrote:
>
> The cost seem very high to me also. As they explained it to me. It took them 4 days just to get the transmission out. It had been in there for 17 years. They had to totally remove the bedroom. The bed, water tank, water heater had to come out to get to a plate under the bed. The inside of the transmission ran around $10,000 and the core was another $5,000 thats the main ports and then labor.

> This towing company has been in business for 15 years. The owner said he tows this way all the time without any problems. This is why I was having so much trouble getting him to pay (four weeks).  Have you every tried to collect from a tow company it's not something you want to do.

>
> Joe Blankenship
> 1990 WB40
> Panama City Beach Fl
>
>
>
>
> --- In "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com", "bubblerboy64" wrote:

> >
> > I'd be interested in knowing if the tow truck operator lost his job over that one.  Now you would think if this is UNIVERSAL to Alison transmissions the fellow would know that. Mighty expensive mistake.  On the other hand.  How in the world do you get $25,000 in a transmission.  I know stuff is expensive but that seems rather much.  I would think $10,000 would be more then enough.  Perhaps some one can explain if there is explaining to do.  I too would be looking for personal expenses but know that it's likely not going to happen.

> >
> > John Heckman
> > 1987 PT 36
> > Shippensburg Pa
> > >
> > > I feel your pain. A couple of years ago the starter in my 94 went flaky and
> > > I was on a car ferry. Worried that I might not get the rig started I called

> > > Allison in Coburg Or and they said a wrecker could tow me very slowly off
> > > the ferry but no more than a couple of hundred feet. Given the risk I am
> > > glad I got it running and didn't need the tow. There was no way the ferry

> > > was going to wait while a wrecker did the disconnect. I hope you go after
> > > the towing company for all your out of pocket expenses.
> > >
> > > 2009/5/26 joedana0502

> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a 1990 WB40 that needed to be towed. The towing company convinced me
> > > > that they didn't need to disconnect the drive line if we were going a short

> > > > distance and if we left the engine idling. Well after 3 miles the
> > > > transmission was smoking like it was on fire. I then had another towing
> > > > company tow the bus 150 miles to an Allison transmission repair shop. Not

> > > > only were all the part inside burned up the core was also damaged to the
> > > > point it had to be replaced. Total cost for this repair was $25.000. This
> > > > was two months ago and I am still waiting to get it back. After a lot work

> > > > the towing company is paying for the transmission, but I am still staying in
> > > > motels and eating out which I am having to pay for. We are full timers. A
> > > > word to the wise Allison told me they make NO automatic transmission that

> > > > can be towed ANY distance without disconnecting the drive shaft from Pickups
> > > > to buses and 18 wheelers. I hope this will save somebody else a lot of
> > > > problems and expense.

> > > >
> > > > Joe Blankenship
> > > > 1990 WB40
> > > > Panama,Fl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> > >
> > > --
> > > Rob, Sue and Joey Robinson
> > > 94 WLWB
> > >
> >
>




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[jburgessx2]

Steve - That certainly sounds more plausible and would explain the excessive
heat for such a short distance.

Jerry
85 PT40


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Steve Pfiffner wrote:
>
> I was wondering if somehow the retarder got turned on, three miles towed
> fighting it would explain a lot of heat!
>
> Steve
> Wannabee
>
>
> On 5/26/09, jburgessx2 wrote:
> >
> > Two towing stories:
> >
> > - I had a van stolen from my front yard a few years back. Some kids
> > decided to do some joyriding and then destroy the evidence by burning it
> > up. So, I had my van stolen and burned to the ground and the police found
> > it at 4:30 in the morning. They had it towed. I got a call from the police
> > in the morning with the report. I went to the towing company to find the
> > van completely burned to the ground with zero salvageable on it. The towing
> > company made me pay for the tow in the middle of the night and the storage
> > cost. My insurance didn't cover the cost (no steal then burn it up
> > insurance) so I had to foot the $250 bill - an insult to me. I wish I could
> > have found those kids.... and I had thought about taking retribution with
> > the towing company as well. One would think they wouldn't be liable when
> > someone comes to your property, steals your vehicle, burns it up and you
> > have to foot the entire bill - hardly seems fair...
> >
> > - I had my Beaver (with Allison) towed twice without unhooking the drive
> > shaft with zero problems. Both drivers claimed there was no problem towing
> > an Allison for short distances at low speeds and they had done so on many
> > occasions. So, it seemed to work okay for me and the Beaver. I'm wondering
> > if there was some other issue involved with your Allison because I do
> > believe they get towed daily without disconnecting the drive shaft since
> > most drivers do it.
> >
> > Jerry
> > 85 PT40
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "joedana0502"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The cost seem very high to me also. As they explained it to me. It took
> > them 4 days just to get the transmission out. It had been in there for 17
> > years. They had to totally remove the bedroom. The bed, water tank, water
> > heater had to come out to get to a plate under the bed. The inside of the
> > transmission ran around $10,000 and the core was another $5,000 thats the
> > main ports and then labor.
> > > This towing company has been in business for 15 years. The owner said he
> > tows this way all the time without any problems. This is why I was having so
> > much trouble getting him to pay (four weeks). Have you every tried to
> > collect from a tow company it's not something you want to do.
> > >
> > > Joe Blankenship
> > > 1990 WB40
> > > Panama City Beach Fl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'd be interested in knowing if the tow truck operator lost his job
> > over that one. Now you would think if this is UNIVERSAL to Alison
> > transmissions the fellow would know that. Mighty expensive mistake. On the
> > other hand. How in the world do you get $25,000 in a transmission. I know
> > stuff is expensive but that seems rather much. I would think $10,000 would
> > be more then enough. Perhaps some one can explain if there is explaining to
> > do. I too would be looking for personal expenses but know that it's likely
> > not going to happen.
> > > >
> > > > John Heckman
> > > > 1987 PT 36
> > > > Shippensburg Pa
> > > > >
> > > > > I feel your pain. A couple of years ago the starter in my 94 went
> > flaky and
> > > > > I was on a car ferry. Worried that I might not get the rig started I
> > called
> > > > > Allison in Coburg Or and they said a wrecker could tow me very slowly
> > off
> > > > > the ferry but no more than a couple of hundred feet. Given the risk I
> > am
> > > > > glad I got it running and didn't need the tow. There was no way the
> > ferry
> > > > > was going to wait while a wrecker did the disconnect. I hope you go
> > after
> > > > > the towing company for all your out of pocket expenses.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2009/5/26 joedana0502
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a 1990 WB40 that needed to be towed. The towing company
> > convinced me
> > > > > > that they didn't need to disconnect the drive line if we were going
> > a short
> > > > > > distance and if we left the engine idling. Well after 3 miles the
> > > > > > transmission was smoking like it was on fire. I then had another
> > towing
> > > > > > company tow the bus 150 miles to an Allison transmission repair
> > shop. Not
> > > > > > only were all the part inside burned up the core was also damaged
> > to the
> > > > > > point it had to be replaced. Total cost for this repair was
> > $25.000. This
> > > > > > was two months ago and I am still waiting to get it back. After a
> > lot work
> > > > > > the towing company is paying for the transmission, but I am still
> > staying in
> > > > > > motels and eating out which I am having to pay for. We are full
> > timers. A
> > > > > > word to the wise Allison told me they make NO automatic
> > transmission that
> > > > > > can be towed ANY distance without disconnecting the drive shaft
> > from Pickups
> > > > > > to buses and 18 wheelers. I hope this will save somebody else a lot
> > of
> > > > > > problems and expense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joe Blankenship
> > > > > > 1990 WB40
> > > > > > Panama,Fl
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Rob, Sue and Joey Robinson
> > > > > 94 WLWB
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[Al Scudder]

I had mt transmission go out ( whet into 1st ad third gears when I stopped) The tow company took the axel out of the passanger side after he hook up and got me out of the intersection. Towed to Allision dealer and they put in a Allision ReMan with transend installed for $11,000. They towed the bird for 16/20 miles.

Scooter 2000 LXocqueoc,MI

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To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: jehdds@...
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:18:58 +0000
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: WARNING BB Towing

I'd be interested in knowing if the tow truck operator lost his job over that one. Now you would think if this is UNIVERSAL to Alison transmissions the fellow would know that. Mighty expensive mistake. On the other hand. How in the world do you get $25,000 in a transmission. I know stuff is expensive but that seems rather much. I would think $10,000 would be more then enough. Perhaps some one can explain if there is explaining to do. I too would be looking for personal expenses but know that it's likely not going to happen.

John Heckman
1987 PT 36
Shippensburg Pa
>
> I feel your pain. A couple of years ago the starter in my 94 went flaky and
> I was on a car ferry. Worried that I might not get the rig started I called
> Allison in Coburg Or and they said a wrecker could tow me very slowly off
> the ferry but no more than a couple of hundred feet. Given the risk I am
> glad I got it running and didn't need the tow. There was no way the ferry
> was going to wait while a wrecker did the disconnect. I hope you go after
> the towing company for all your out of pocket expenses.
>
> 2009/5/26 joedana0502 ...>
>
> >
> >
> > I have a 1990 WB40 that needed to be towed. The towing company convinced me
> > that they didn't need to disconnect the drive line if we were going a short
> > distance and if we left the engine idling. Well after 3 miles the
> > transmission was smoking like it was on fire. I then had another towing
> > company tow the bus 150 miles to an Allison transmission repair shop. Not
> > only were all the part inside burned up the core was also damaged to the
> > point it had to be replaced. Total cost for this repair was $25.000. This
> > was two months ago and I am still waiting to get it back. After a lot work
> > the towing company is paying for the transmission, but I am still staying in
> > motels and eating out which I am having to pay for. We are full timers. A
> > word to the wise Allison told me they make NO automatic transmission that
> > can be towed ANY distance without disconnecting the drive shaft from Pickups
> > to buses and 18 wheelers. I hope this will save somebody else a lot of
> > problems and expense.
> >
> > Joe Blankenship
> > 1990 WB40
> > Panama,Fl
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> Rob, Sue and Joey Robinson
> 94 WLWB
>

[joedana0502]

I'm not sure if the retarder was on or not. The second tow company pulled the
bus for 150 miles with no transmission heat at all. The only thing he did that
the other one didn't was to disconnect the drive shaft. Will the transmission
heat up with the drive shaft disconnected and the retarder on ?

Joe Blankenship
1990 WB40
Panama City Beach Fl




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jburgessx2" wrote:
>
> Steve - That certainly sounds more plausible and would explain the excessive
heat for such a short distance.
>
> Jerry
> 85 PT40
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Steve Pfiffner wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering if somehow the retarder got turned on, three miles towed
> > fighting it would explain a lot of heat!
> >
> > Steve
> > Wannabee
> >
> >
> > On 5/26/09, jburgessx2 wrote:
> > >
> > > Two towing stories:
> > >
> > > - I had a van stolen from my front yard a few years back. Some kids
> > > decided to do some joyriding and then destroy the evidence by burning it
> > > up. So, I had my van stolen and burned to the ground and the police found
> > > it at 4:30 in the morning. They had it towed. I got a call from the
police
> > > in the morning with the report. I went to the towing company to find the
> > > van completely burned to the ground with zero salvageable on it. The
towing
> > > company made me pay for the tow in the middle of the night and the storage
> > > cost. My insurance didn't cover the cost (no steal then burn it up
> > > insurance) so I had to foot the $250 bill - an insult to me. I wish I
could
> > > have found those kids.... and I had thought about taking retribution with
> > > the towing company as well. One would think they wouldn't be liable when
> > > someone comes to your property, steals your vehicle, burns it up and you
> > > have to foot the entire bill - hardly seems fair...
> > >
> > > - I had my Beaver (with Allison) towed twice without unhooking the drive
> > > shaft with zero problems. Both drivers claimed there was no problem
towing
> > > an Allison for short distances at low speeds and they had done so on many
> > > occasions. So, it seemed to work okay for me and the Beaver. I'm
wondering
> > > if there was some other issue involved with your Allison because I do
> > > believe they get towed daily without disconnecting the drive shaft since
> > > most drivers do it.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > 85 PT40
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "joedana0502"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The cost seem very high to me also. As they explained it to me. It took
> > > them 4 days just to get the transmission out. It had been in there for 17
> > > years. They had to totally remove the bedroom. The bed, water tank, water
> > > heater had to come out to get to a plate under the bed. The inside of the
> > > transmission ran around $10,000 and the core was another $5,000 thats the
> > > main ports and then labor.
> > > > This towing company has been in business for 15 years. The owner said he
> > > tows this way all the time without any problems. This is why I was having
so
> > > much trouble getting him to pay (four weeks). Have you every tried to
> > > collect from a tow company it's not something you want to do.
> > > >
> > > > Joe Blankenship
> > > > 1990 WB40
> > > > Panama City Beach Fl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "bubblerboy64" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd be interested in knowing if the tow truck operator lost his job
> > > over that one. Now you would think if this is UNIVERSAL to Alison
> > > transmissions the fellow would know that. Mighty expensive mistake. On
the
> > > other hand. How in the world do you get $25,000 in a transmission. I
know
> > > stuff is expensive but that seems rather much. I would think $10,000
would
> > > be more then enough. Perhaps some one can explain if there is explaining
to
> > > do. I too would be looking for personal expenses but know that it's
likely
> > > not going to happen.
> > > > >
> > > > > John Heckman
> > > > > 1987 PT 36
> > > > > Shippensburg Pa
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I feel your pain. A couple of years ago the starter in my 94 went
> > > flaky and
> > > > > > I was on a car ferry. Worried that I might not get the rig started I
> > > called
> > > > > > Allison in Coburg Or and they said a wrecker could tow me very
slowly
> > > off
> > > > > > the ferry but no more than a couple of hundred feet. Given the risk
I
> > > am
> > > > > > glad I got it running and didn't need the tow. There was no way the
> > > ferry
> > > > > > was going to wait while a wrecker did the disconnect. I hope you go
> > > after
> > > > > > the towing company for all your out of pocket expenses.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2009/5/26 joedana0502
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a 1990 WB40 that needed to be towed. The towing company
> > > convinced me
> > > > > > > that they didn't need to disconnect the drive line if we were
going
> > > a short
> > > > > > > distance and if we left the engine idling. Well after 3 miles the
> > > > > > > transmission was smoking like it was on fire. I then had another
> > > towing
> > > > > > > company tow the bus 150 miles to an Allison transmission repair
> > > shop. Not
> > > > > > > only were all the part inside burned up the core was also damaged
> > > to the
> > > > > > > point it had to be replaced. Total cost for this repair was
> > > $25.000. This
> > > > > > > was two months ago and I am still waiting to get it back. After a
> > > lot work
> > > > > > > the towing company is paying for the transmission, but I am still
> > > staying in
> > > > > > > motels and eating out which I am having to pay for. We are full
> > > timers. A
> > > > > > > word to the wise Allison told me they make NO automatic
> > > transmission that
> > > > > > > can be towed ANY distance without disconnecting the drive shaft
> > > from Pickups
> > > > > > > to buses and 18 wheelers. I hope this will save somebody else a
lot
> > > of
> > > > > > > problems and expense.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Joe Blankenship
> > > > > > > 1990 WB40
> > > > > > > Panama,Fl
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Rob, Sue and Joey Robinson
> > > > > > 94 WLWB
> > > > > >
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