Cat 3208 oil cooler- engine oil temp hi- 89SP

[Ed Gardels]

My engine oil temp is running HI(manual says 230-270). Where is the oil cooler
and how does it work? Can you work on it your self? Can it be removed and fixed
or repaired? Anybody ever done this?
What else could cause the hi temp. Dip stick shows full, no laeks...

Thanks for any ideas or help
Ed Gardels 89SP
Arlington Texas

[Curt Sprenger]

Defective gauge and/or sender, wiring. Can't help with the oil cooler.

Curt Sprenger
1987 PT38 8V92 "MacAttack Racing"
Anaheim Hills, CA
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On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Ed Gardels <"egardata@tx.rr.com"> wrote:

 

My engine oil temp is running HI(manual says 230-270). Where is the oil cooler and how does it work? Can you work on it your self? Can it be removed and fixed or repaired? Anybody ever done this?

What else could cause the hi temp. Dip stick shows full, no laeks...



Thanks for any ideas or help

Ed Gardels 89SP

Arlington Texas

[dan]

Hi Ed, As you know, diesel engines can and will suffer serious damage even as the result of relatively minor overheat conditions. Is the water temp also high? Could be several things or a combination of things. Oil should be changed at least every 100 hours because carbon build up in the oil reduces its ability to cool. Radiator could be compromised in some way either internal or external. Have you checked the coolant level not using the sight glass? The impeller on the water pump could be worn. You know, considering how expensive an overheated diesel can be, I would take it to good shop and let the pro's diagnosis it. Just my two cents worth.

Dan Williams, 88WB38, Jackson,MS

One other thing while we are on this subject, I read that the water temp gauge doesn'talarm with no water but an exhaust temp alarm will work. Does anyone have any experience with an exhaust temp alarm?

----- Original Message -----

From: "egardata@tx.rr.com"

To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com"

Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:03 PM

Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Cat 3208 oil cooler- engine oil temp hi- 89SP

My engine oil temp is running HI(manual says 230-270). Where is the oil cooler and how does it work? Can you work on it your self? Can it be removed and fixed or repaired? Anybody ever done this?
What else could cause the hi temp. Dip stick shows full, no laeks...

Thanks for any ideas or help
Ed Gardels 89SP
Arlington Texas

[timvasqz]

I'm not sure that is hi? what should the temp be? my 8v92 gets to 250 and my
cummins n-14 get to 195. The cummins pulls a truck that is unloaded most of the
time ant the 8v92 a bus that is at max load every time it pulls out.

too often folks try to reduce tepms via after market mods and not deal with
the factors that cause the extra heat. That is the problem with all the shade
tree t stat mods and extra fan measures. the operator will lose the signal that
a high temp warns of a failure which causes heat.

'Tylenol wont cure a chronic hangover'.
Greg of Tim&Greg
94ptca

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "dan" wrote:
>
> Hi Ed, As you know, diesel engines can and will suffer serious damage even as
the result of relatively minor overheat conditions. Is the water temp also
high? Could be several things or a combination of things. Oil should be
changed at least every 100 hours because carbon build up in the oil reduces its
ability to cool. Radiator could be compromised in some way either internal or
external. Have you checked the coolant level not using the sight glass? The
impeller on the water pump could be worn. You know, considering how expensive
an overheated diesel can be, I would take it to good shop and let the pro's
diagnosis it. Just my two cents worth.
> Dan Williams, 88WB38, Jackson,MS
> One other thing while we are on this subject, I read that the water temp gauge
doesn't alarm with no water but an exhaust temp alarm will work. Does anyone
have any experience with an exhaust temp alarm?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Gardels
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:03 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Cat 3208 oil cooler- engine oil temp hi- 89SP
>
>
> My engine oil temp is running HI(manual says 230-270). Where is the oil
cooler and how does it work? Can you work on it your self? Can it be removed and
fixed or repaired? Anybody ever done this?
> What else could cause the hi temp. Dip stick shows full, no laeks...
>
> Thanks for any ideas or help
> Ed Gardels 89SP
> Arlington Texas
>

[crissrace]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "dan" wrote:
>
> Hi Ed, As you know, diesel engines can and will suffer serious damage even as
the result of relatively minor overheat conditions. Is the water temp also
high? Could be several things or a combination of things. Oil should be
changed at least every 100 hours because carbon build up in the oil reduces its
ability to cool. Radiator could be compromised in some way either internal or
external. Have you checked the coolant level not using the sight glass? The
impeller on the water pump could be worn. You know, considering how expensive
an overheated diesel can be, I would take it to good shop and let the pro's
diagnosis it. Just my two cents worth.
> Dan Williams, 88WB38, Jackson,MS
> One other thing while we are on this subject, I read that the water temp gauge
doesn't alarm with no water but an exhaust temp alarm will work. Does anyone
have any experience with an exhaust temp alarm?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Gardels
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:03 PM
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Cat 3208 oil cooler- engine oil temp hi- 89SP
>
>
> My engine oil temp is running HI(manual says 230-270). Where is the oil
cooler and how does it work? Can you work on it your self? Can it be removed and
fixed or repaired? Anybody ever done this?
> What else could cause the hi temp. Dip stick shows full, no laeks...
>
> Thanks for any ideas or help
> Ed Gardels 89SP
> Arlington Texas

Well I just changed out my oil cooler as it leaked oil into the water and made a
mess including not cooling the engine very well. The oil cooler is a water to
oil unit located just above (attached)to the oil filters. It is replaced as a
unit and is no fun to do as the bolts holding it onto the block are hard to get
at. Additionally the unit is around $400 exchange. I would say if your water
temp is not elevated then the gauge is the first place to look/hope.
Bob Criss
90SP
Bethel Park, PA
>

[davidkerryedwards]

Oil cooler on a 3208 is mounted on the engine block bottom right side. Don't
think there's much to go wrong in the cooler itself. I think it functions by
using the engine coolant. I too would replace the sender or gauge or at least
use an infrared thermometer to get a sense of whether the oil temperature system
is functioning correctly.
If the oil is truly running at those temperatures, I would definitely be using
synthetic oil until the problem is solved since it can usually maintain it's
properties at higher temperatures.
Do you have an EGT gauge? If so, what are those temperatures. I think higher
EGT's can increase oil temperatures substantially since the oil is running thru
the turbo.
Has the oil always run at this temperature or is it a recent development? Does
it run at this temperature all the time or just under heavy loads like on a
steep grade? If it only gets this high under load, check to make sure that your
cooling fan is functioning correctly. What is your transmission fluid
temperature?
If the engine coolant temperature is also high, I'd suspect a malfunctioning
thermostat.

Kerry
82 FC 35
Denver


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ed Gardels" wrote:
>
> My engine oil temp is running HI(manual says 230-270). Where is the oil
cooler and how does it work? Can you work on it your self? Can it be removed and
fixed or repaired? Anybody ever done this?
> What else could cause the hi temp. Dip stick shows full, no laeks...
>
> Thanks for any ideas or help
> Ed Gardels 89SP
> Arlington Texas
>