The 75,000 gallon (service life) Everpure water purifier in the 2000 LXI

[luckyron1]

Crunching the numbers, it works out to about 8 1/2 yrs for our lifestyle. Does
anyone know just what water it filters/purifies?
All of it?
Just the ice maker and tap water?

We're about to replace it with some kind of cannister rig in the same space.

Thanks

[gregoryoconnor]

I wonder how good a purifier is that isnt re chlorinated with fresh tap often.
I suspect that the design of these devices is for a more constant use and the
lack of use may compromise the output??????? when you run water thru a filter
the output is influenced by the particles captured in the filter media.

I dont trust rv park water. many of the rigs have tank flush options that are
typically modified. On this forum RR describes how to eliminate the atmospheric
backflow to rid the bus of that source of tank oder. One other big backflow
danger is the kitchen sink vegetable washers many sob's have installed next to
the toilet. I have seen fulltimers with large code rated backflow devices and
pressure regulators mounted on the hose bib and wonder if they think the
backflow device is a protection for them?
Greg ofTim&Greg
94ptca

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "luckyron1" wrote:
>
> Crunching the numbers, it works out to about 8 1/2 yrs for our lifestyle.
Does anyone know just what water it filters/purifies?
> All of it?
> Just the ice maker and tap water?
>
> We're about to replace it with some kind of cannister rig in the same space.
>
> Thanks
>

[luckyron1]

I'm just wondering if anyone knos just what it filters. The tap water and the
ice maker water, or everything?

Thanks
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gregoryoconnor" wrote:
>
> I wonder how good a purifier is that isnt re chlorinated with fresh tap often.
I suspect that the design of these devices is for a more constant use and the
lack of use may compromise the output??????? when you run water thru a filter
the output is influenced by the particles captured in the filter media.
>
> I dont trust rv park water. many of the rigs have tank flush options that are
typically modified. On this forum RR describes how to eliminate the atmospheric
backflow to rid the bus of that source of tank oder. One other big backflow
danger is the kitchen sink vegetable washers many sob's have installed next to
the toilet. I have seen fulltimers with large code rated backflow devices and
pressure regulators mounted on the hose bib and wonder if they think the
backflow device is a protection for them?
> Greg ofTim&Greg
> 94ptca
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "luckyron1" wrote:
> >
> > Crunching the numbers, it works out to about 8 1/2 yrs for our lifestyle.
Does anyone know just what water it filters/purifies?
> > All of it?
> > Just the ice maker and tap water?
> >
> > We're about to replace it with some kind of cannister rig in the same space.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>

[Fred Hulse]

Ron

On our 97 the water enters the filter and then is sent throughout the coach.

Nothing is bypassed.

Fred & Jeanne Hulse
Morristown Arizona
1997 Wanderlodge WLWB41

[Don Bradner]

In the 90 there is a standard canister that filters incoming water for which you
can buy all sorts of inserts from simple carbon to complex devices.

There is a separate Everpure filter under the sink that filters three things:
Icemaker, Insta-Hot, and separate drinking-water tap. Does not filter the sink
tap.

We replaced the Everpure a few days ago after just less than 3 years - taste was
deteriorating.

Don Bradner
90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
Posting today by satellite near Salem, Oregon
My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1

On 8/22/2009 at 5:54 PM luckyron1 wrote:

>I'm just wondering if anyone knos just what it filters. The tap water
>and the ice maker water, or everything?
>
>Thanks
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gregoryoconnor" wrote:
>>
>> I wonder how good a purifier is that isnt re chlorinated with fresh tap
>often. I suspect that the design of these devices is for a more constant
>use and the lack of use may compromise the output??????? when you run
>water thru a filter the output is influenced by the particles captured in
>the filter media.
>>
>> I dont trust rv park water. many of the rigs have tank flush options
>that are typically modified. On this forum RR describes how to eliminate
>the atmospheric backflow to rid the bus of that source of tank oder. One
>other big backflow danger is the kitchen sink vegetable washers many sob's
>have installed next to the toilet. I have seen fulltimers with large code
>rated backflow devices and pressure regulators mounted on the hose bib and
>wonder if they think the backflow device is a protection for them?
>> Greg ofTim&Greg
>> 94ptca
>>
>> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "luckyron1" wrote:
>> >
>> > Crunching the numbers, it works out to about 8 1/2 yrs for our
>lifestyle. Does anyone know just what water it filters/purifies?
>> > All of it?
>> > Just the ice maker and tap water?
>> >
>> > We're about to replace it with some kind of cannister rig in the same
>space.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
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>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

[g_man1146]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bradner" wrote:
>
Don,

I installed both of the filters you mentioned when we had Blue Thunder.
Originally it had the 75,000 gallon "permanent" filter. It began to loose
effectiveness around 1998 or so and I took it out and put in the "whole house"
filter with replaceable cartridges and the Everpure under the sink. I also
installed the drinking water tap at that time.

Rich D. '99LXi43' CT


> In the 90 there is a standard canister that filters incoming water for which
you can buy all sorts of inserts from simple carbon to complex devices.
>
> There is a separate Everpure filter under the sink that filters three things:
Icemaker, Insta-Hot, and separate drinking-water tap. Does not filter the sink
tap.
>
> We replaced the Everpure a few days ago after just less than 3 years - taste
was deteriorating.
>
> Don Bradner
> 90 PT40 "Blue Thunder"
> Posting today by satellite near Salem, Oregon
> My location: http://www.bbirdmaps.com/user2.cfm?user=1
>
> On 8/22/2009 at 5:54 PM luckyron1 wrote:
>
> >I'm just wondering if anyone knos just what it filters. The tap water
> >and the ice maker water, or everything?
> >
> >Thanks
> >--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gregoryoconnor" wrote:
> >>
> >> I wonder how good a purifier is that isnt re chlorinated with fresh tap
> >often. I suspect that the design of these devices is for a more constant
> >use and the lack of use may compromise the output??????? when you run
> >water thru a filter the output is influenced by the particles captured in
> >the filter media.
> >>
> >> I dont trust rv park water. many of the rigs have tank flush options
> >that are typically modified. On this forum RR describes how to eliminate
> >the atmospheric backflow to rid the bus of that source of tank oder. One
> >other big backflow danger is the kitchen sink vegetable washers many sob's
> >have installed next to the toilet. I have seen fulltimers with large code
> >rated backflow devices and pressure regulators mounted on the hose bib and
> >wonder if they think the backflow device is a protection for them?
> >> Greg ofTim&Greg
> >> 94ptca
> >>
> >> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "luckyron1" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Crunching the numbers, it works out to about 8 1/2 yrs for our
> >lifestyle. Does anyone know just what water it filters/purifies?
> >> > All of it?
> >> > Just the ice maker and tap water?
> >> >
> >> > We're about to replace it with some kind of cannister rig in the same
> >space.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

[g_man1146]

These filters contain a powdered filter media that also has a silver compound to
prevent bacteria growth. If clogged they can be taken out and back-flushed but
there is no need to them service during their long life. They are designed for,
and Wanderlodge installed them for "whole house" filtering. All water that
enters the coach or the fresh water tank goes through this filter. As I recall
the flow rate for these filters is somewhere around 6 gpm which is much greater
than the inlet regulator and the water lines.

I spoke with the manufacturer (now out of business) when I changed out the
filters on Blue Thunder in 1998. These were a very good filter and quite
expensive. Somewhere there was a discussion on refilling the unit with filter
media purchased from a swimming pool dealer but I don't remember the details.
The sealed PVC unit would have to be cut open and resealed and that is why I
opted for a replaceable filter whole house plus a secondary filter for drinking
water and ice cubes.

The same filter was used on our '99 LXi and it is nearing the end of its
usefulness. I have already installed a secondary filter for the ice and drinking
water tap and will be replacing the original whole house filter soon too.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Adding chlorine through one of these Wanderlodge installed
filters will severely damage the filter media.

Rich D. '99LXi43' CT

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "luckyron1" wrote:
>
> Crunching the numbers, it works out to about 8 1/2 yrs for our lifestyle.
Does anyone know just what water it filters/purifies?
> All of it?
> Just the ice maker and tap water?
>
> We're about to replace it with some kind of cannister rig in the same space.
>
> Thanks
>

[gregoryoconnor]

I think the filters are a big dirty wash rag and would bet that the water coming
threw one is is worse shape then that which entered. I'm no expert in
waterpurification but the test of my theory is inexpensive and worth doing if I
had plans to use one.

On a aged filter (one or two years on a part time pressurized coach) I would
collect a sample of input water and then a sink tap sample of that input water
that passes the filter. Lab test are less than $15 per sample.

It is also important to realize that water-conditioning and water-purification
have two different anticipated results.

Greg of Tim&Greg
94ptca
--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "g_man1146" wrote:
>
>
> These filters contain a powdered filter media that also has a silver compound
to prevent bacteria growth. If clogged they can be taken out and back-flushed
but there is no need to them service during their long life. They are designed
for, and Wanderlodge installed them for "whole house" filtering. All water that
enters the coach or the fresh water tank goes through this filter. As I recall
the flow rate for these filters is somewhere around 6 gpm which is much greater
than the inlet regulator and the water lines.
>
> I spoke with the manufacturer (now out of business) when I changed out the
filters on Blue Thunder in 1998. These were a very good filter and quite
expensive. Somewhere there was a discussion on refilling the unit with filter
media purchased from a swimming pool dealer but I don't remember the details.
The sealed PVC unit would have to be cut open and resealed and that is why I
opted for a replaceable filter whole house plus a secondary filter for drinking
water and ice cubes.
>
> The same filter was used on our '99 LXi and it is nearing the end of its
usefulness. I have already installed a secondary filter for the ice and drinking
water tap and will be replacing the original whole house filter soon too.
>
> IMPORTANT NOTE: Adding chlorine through one of these Wanderlodge installed
filters will severely damage the filter media.
>
> Rich D. '99LXi43' CT
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "luckyron1" wrote:
> >
> > Crunching the numbers, it works out to about 8 1/2 yrs for our lifestyle.
Does anyone know just what water it filters/purifies?
> > All of it?
> > Just the ice maker and tap water?
> >
> > We're about to replace it with some kind of cannister rig in the same space.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>

[jcmace59]

When properly sanitized yearly, you'll find less "stuff" in the filtered sample
than the unfiltered sample. The silver nitrate does a really good job at
cleaning the incoming water. You should sanitize by going directly into the
fresh tank and not through the normal water inlet. This bypasses the filter and
does not harm the media. Normal chlorine levels will not short term damage the
media, whereas high levels (such as occurring during sanitization) will. No, it
does very little for taste. If the taste of the water is an issue, then add a
carbon filter when needed. That adds complexity and maintenance, which is
exactly what the silver nitrate filter system is designed to reduce. It's up to
you.





--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gregoryoconnor" wrote:
>
> I think the filters are a big dirty wash rag and would bet that the water
coming threw one is is worse shape then that which entered. I'm no expert in
waterpurification but the test of my theory is inexpensive and worth doing if I
had plans to use one.
>
> On a aged filter (one or two years on a part time pressurized coach) I
would collect a sample of input water and then a sink tap sample of that input
water that passes the filter. Lab test are less than $15 per sample.
>
> It is also important to realize that water-conditioning and water-purification
have two different anticipated results.
>
> Greg of Tim&Greg
> 94ptca
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "g_man1146" wrote:
> >
> >
> > These filters contain a powdered filter media that also has a silver
compound to prevent bacteria growth. If clogged they can be taken out and
back-flushed but there is no need to them service during their long life. They
are designed for, and Wanderlodge installed them for "whole house" filtering.
All water that enters the coach or the fresh water tank goes through this
filter. As I recall the flow rate for these filters is somewhere around 6 gpm
which is much greater than the inlet regulator and the water lines.
> >
> > I spoke with the manufacturer (now out of business) when I changed out the
filters on Blue Thunder in 1998. These were a very good filter and quite
expensive. Somewhere there was a discussion on refilling the unit with filter
media purchased from a swimming pool dealer but I don't remember the details.
The sealed PVC unit would have to be cut open and resealed and that is why I
opted for a replaceable filter whole house plus a secondary filter for drinking
water and ice cubes.
> >
> > The same filter was used on our '99 LXi and it is nearing the end of its
usefulness. I have already installed a secondary filter for the ice and drinking
water tap and will be replacing the original whole house filter soon too.
> >
> > IMPORTANT NOTE: Adding chlorine through one of these Wanderlodge installed
filters will severely damage the filter media.
> >
> > Rich D. '99LXi43' CT
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "luckyron1" wrote:
> > >
> > > Crunching the numbers, it works out to about 8 1/2 yrs for our lifestyle.
Does anyone know just what water it filters/purifies?
> > > All of it?
> > > Just the ice maker and tap water?
> > >
> > > We're about to replace it with some kind of cannister rig in the same
space.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> >
>

[luckyron1]

Thanks for the replies guys. Since we still have good flowage and the flavor
really isn't bad, we're going to keep the original and supplement it with an
in-line cannister in the sewer bay.

2000 LXI in MN

existing Everpure--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jcmace59"
wrote:
>
> When properly sanitized yearly, you'll find less "stuff" in the filtered
sample than the unfiltered sample. The silver nitrate does a really good job at
cleaning the incoming water. You should sanitize by going directly into the
fresh tank and not through the normal water inlet. This bypasses the filter and
does not harm the media. Normal chlorine levels will not short term damage the
media, whereas high levels (such as occurring during sanitization) will. No, it
does very little for taste. If the taste of the water is an issue, then add a
carbon filter when needed. That adds complexity and maintenance, which is
exactly what the silver nitrate filter system is designed to reduce. It's up to
you.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "gregoryoconnor" wrote:
> >
> > I think the filters are a big dirty wash rag and would bet that the water
coming threw one is is worse shape then that which entered. I'm no expert in
waterpurification but the test of my theory is inexpensive and worth doing if I
had plans to use one.
> >
> > On a aged filter (one or two years on a part time pressurized coach) I
would collect a sample of input water and then a sink tap sample of that input
water that passes the filter. Lab test are less than $15 per sample.
> >
> > It is also important to realize that water-conditioning and
water-purification have two different anticipated results.
> >
> > Greg of Tim&Greg
> > 94ptca
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "g_man1146" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > These filters contain a powdered filter media that also has a silver
compound to prevent bacteria growth. If clogged they can be taken out and
back-flushed but there is no need to them service during their long life. They
are designed for, and Wanderlodge installed them for "whole house" filtering.
All water that enters the coach or the fresh water tank goes through this
filter. As I recall the flow rate for these filters is somewhere around 6 gpm
which is much greater than the inlet regulator and the water lines.
> > >
> > > I spoke with the manufacturer (now out of business) when I changed out the
filters on Blue Thunder in 1998. These were a very good filter and quite
expensive. Somewhere there was a discussion on refilling the unit with filter
media purchased from a swimming pool dealer but I don't remember the details.
The sealed PVC unit would have to be cut open and resealed and that is why I
opted for a replaceable filter whole house plus a secondary filter for drinking
water and ice cubes.
> > >
> > > The same filter was used on our '99 LXi and it is nearing the end of its
usefulness. I have already installed a secondary filter for the ice and drinking
water tap and will be replacing the original whole house filter soon too.
> > >
> > > IMPORTANT NOTE: Adding chlorine through one of these Wanderlodge installed
filters will severely damage the filter media.
> > >
> > > Rich D. '99LXi43' CT
> > >
> > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "luckyron1" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Crunching the numbers, it works out to about 8 1/2 yrs for our
lifestyle. Does anyone know just what water it filters/purifies?
> > > > All of it?
> > > > Just the ice maker and tap water?
> > > >
> > > > We're about to replace it with some kind of cannister rig in the same
space.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > >
> >
>