What to look for?

[Wayne Kotila]

Gerard:

I have a very clean 1985 PT40 for sale and it is currently listed on www.birdconnection.com, it is coach # 695MN. I would considera reasonable offer so if the 1986 doesn't work out e-mail me for more info if your interested.

Wayne 1985 PT40

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From: jerry_94110
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:51:47 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: What to look for?

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "jerry_94110" wrote:
>
> I have been a member of this site for around 2 years. I think I have found a coach (1986 PT36) that will meet my needs and budget. I will be traveling from San Francisco to St. Louis the weekend of the 29th to view the coach. I have printed a check list off of the vintage bird site to help me inspect the coach.
>
> Can anyone let me know of any major components that I should check out that can possibly be a deal breaker on a 1986 coach?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Gerard Kocher
> 2003 30' Airstream Travel Trailer
> San Francisco, CA
>
Thanks to everyone for all or your responces. It is nice to know there is a support group out
there.

Gerard

[jerry_94110]

Last weekend I flew to St. Louis to check out a 1986 PT 36 for sale. Larry
Kehler was a big help. He volunteered to meet me at the coach to help with the
inspection.

Some items we found were:

-Cruise control did not work.
-Fast Idle not working; when engaged, the engine RPM's continue to
increase and never leveled off.
-Back-up camera not working, was receiving power, but no picture.
-Music horn worked, but very low volume. We could not find a volume
control.
-Generator worked, but only showed power on one leg. Not sure if the
generator feeds both legs? Both air-conditions did run.
-Welds are broken on base of upper ladder (not the lower one that is
attached to the engine cover) that is used to get on the roof.
Simple fix, but what could be the root cause to create the weld to
break?
-When driving, water started to drip from front roof vented. When I
looked on the roof, it didn't appear to have any sitting water. Can
there be water trapped in the roof?
-Could not get the electric drapes to close, maybe a switch was not
turn on somewhere.
-It appears to have been winterized since 2007. Not sure if that
would have any effects on the plumbing system?
-Side vent on the street side that opens upward to get to the
batteries/engine does not appear to latch, it just hangs there.
Should there be a latch on this?
-Vent over shower was cracked and stuck in the open position.
-General cosmetic issues:
Rust on rims and lugs.
Needs tires all around
Some rust forming on heater vents with coach.
Some of the screws around the coach that secure emblems
appear to have rust.
Paint is in fair to a bit better then poor condition.

My biggest concern that we found was the generator. Any comments on the above
would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Gerard Kocher
2003 30' Airstream Travel Trailer / BB Wannabe
San Francisco, CA


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jerry_94110" wrote:
>
> I have been a member of this site for around 2 years. I think I have found a
coach (1986 PT36) that will meet my needs and budget. I will be traveling from
San Francisco to St. Louis the weekend of the 29th to view the coach. I have
printed a check list off of the vintage bird site to help me inspect the coach.
>
> Can anyone let me know of any major components that I should check out that
can possibly be a deal breaker on a 1986 coach?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Gerard Kocher
> 2003 30' Airstream Travel Trailer
> San Francisco, CA
>

[thomas_sorrentino]

Gerard,

If both A/C were working it sounds like you had power on both legs. On my coach
there is a GFI breaker in the AC panel that supplies power to the gen. gauges.
Every so often I have to reset it, and it gives me the symptom you described.
IMO, none of the descrepancies you found are deal breakers.

Tom Sorrentino
Bedford Hills, NY
1987 PT38




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jerry_94110" wrote:
>
> Last weekend I flew to St. Louis to check out a 1986 PT 36 for sale. Larry
Kehler was a big help. He volunteered to meet me at the coach to help with the
inspection.
>
> Some items we found were:
>
> -Cruise control did not work.
> -Fast Idle not working; when engaged, the engine RPM's continue to
> increase and never leveled off.
> -Back-up camera not working, was receiving power, but no picture.
> -Music horn worked, but very low volume. We could not find a volume
> control.
> -Generator worked, but only showed power on one leg. Not sure if the
> generator feeds both legs? Both air-conditions did run.
> -Welds are broken on base of upper ladder (not the lower one that is
> attached to the engine cover) that is used to get on the roof.
> Simple fix, but what could be the root cause to create the weld to
> break?
> -When driving, water started to drip from front roof vented. When I
> looked on the roof, it didn't appear to have any sitting water. Can
> there be water trapped in the roof?
> -Could not get the electric drapes to close, maybe a switch was not
> turn on somewhere.
> -It appears to have been winterized since 2007. Not sure if that
> would have any effects on the plumbing system?
> -Side vent on the street side that opens upward to get to the
> batteries/engine does not appear to latch, it just hangs there.
> Should there be a latch on this?
> -Vent over shower was cracked and stuck in the open position.
> -General cosmetic issues:
> Rust on rims and lugs.
> Needs tires all around
> Some rust forming on heater vents with coach.
> Some of the screws around the coach that secure emblems
> appear to have rust.
> Paint is in fair to a bit better then poor condition.
>
> My biggest concern that we found was the generator. Any comments on the above
would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
> Gerard Kocher
> 2003 30' Airstream Travel Trailer / BB Wannabe
> San Francisco, CA
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "jerry_94110" wrote:
> >
> > I have been a member of this site for around 2 years. I think I have found a
coach (1986 PT36) that will meet my needs and budget. I will be traveling from
San Francisco to St. Louis the weekend of the 29th to view the coach. I have
printed a check list off of the vintage bird site to help me inspect the coach.
> >
> > Can anyone let me know of any major components that I should check out that
can possibly be a deal breaker on a 1986 coach?
> >
> > Thanks for your help,
> >
> > Gerard Kocher
> > 2003 30' Airstream Travel Trailer
> > San Francisco, CA
> >
>

[Wayne Kotila]

Hi Gerard:

I e-mailed you before about our 1985 PT40 and you thought it may be bigger than you wanted but if you were willing to consider the extra 4 feetI think you would like having it. The extra length gives you allot of extra kitchen, living room and storage space plus avery larger pass thru cargo bay.The coach is in very nice conditionandI have always taken allot of pride inthe bus and have taken verygood care of it. The coach and it's components are in very good working order inside and out with a very nice high gloss shine to the exterior paint. I have stored it in doors and Ive always kept the exterior and the interior clean and looking like new. If you would like more info and pictures let me know, if you like the colors andwould be interested in a 1985 PT40' you would not be disappointed with this coach!!

Wayne Kotila

612 710 7658

P.S. because of the economic situation I am askingwhat I feel is avery reasonable price of $34,995.00

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From: jerry_94110
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 11:02:54 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: What to look for?

Last weekend I flew to St. Louis to check out a 1986 PT 36 for sale. Larry Kehler was a big help. He volunteered to meet me at the coach to help with the inspection.

Some items we found were:

-Cruise control did not work.
-Fast Idle not working; when engaged, the engine RPM's continue to
increase and never leveled off.
-Back-up camera not working, was receiving power, but no picture.
-Music horn worked, but very low volume. We could not find a volume
control.
-Generator worked, but only showed power on one leg. Not sure if the
generator feeds both legs? Both air-conditions did run.
-Welds are broken on base of upper ladder (not the lower one that is
attached to the engine cover) that is used to get on the roof.
Simple fix, but what could be the root cause to create the weld to
break?
-When driving, water started to drip from front roof vented. When I
looked on the roof, it didn't appear to have any
sitting water. Can
there be water trapped in the roof?
-Could not get the electric drapes to close, maybe a switch was not
turn on somewhere.
-It appears to have been winterized since 2007. Not sure if that
would have any effects on the plumbing system?
-Side vent on the street side that opens upward to get to the
batteries/engine does not appear to latch, it just hangs there.
Should there be a latch on this?
-Vent over shower was cracked and stuck in the open position.
-General cosmetic issues:
Rust on rims and lugs.
Needs tires all around
Some rust forming on heater vents with coach.
Some of the screws around the coach that secure emblems
appear to have rust.
Paint is in fair to a bit better then poor condition.

My biggest concern that we found was the generator. Any comments on the above would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Gerard Kocher
2003 30' Airstream Travel Trailer / BB
Wannabe
San Francisco, CA

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "jerry_94110" wrote:
>
> I have been a member of this site for around 2 years. I think I have found a coach (1986 PT36) that will meet my needs and budget. I will be traveling from San Francisco to St. Louis the weekend of the 29th to view the coach. I have printed a check list off of the vintage bird site to help me inspect the coach.
>
> Can anyone let me know of any major components that I should check out that can possibly be a deal breaker on a 1986 coach?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Gerard Kocher
> 2003 30' Airstream Travel Trailer
> San Francisco, CA
>

[jburgessx2@...]

To add on, I went with an 85 PT40 and it's wonderful - the kitchen space is definitely worth the extra few feet. And, frankly, that is a great price for that much coach!

Just my 2 cents...

Jerry
85 PT40

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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From: Wayne Kotila
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 22:14:47 -0700 (PDT)
To:
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: What to look for?

Hi Gerard:

I e-mailed you before about our 1985 PT40 and you thought it may be bigger than you wanted but if you were willing to consider the extra 4 feetI think you would like having it. The extra length gives you allot of extra kitchen, living room and storage space plus avery larger pass thru cargo bay.The coach is in very nice conditionandI have always taken allot of pride inthe bus and have taken verygood care of it. The coach and it's components are in very good working order inside and out with a very nice high gloss shine to the exterior paint. I have stored it in doors and Ive always kept the exterior and the interior clean and looking like new. If you would like more info and pictures let me know, if you like the colors andwould be interested in a 1985 PT40' you would not be disappointed with this coach!!

Wayne Kotila

612 710 7658

P.S. because of the economic situation I am askingwhat I feel is avery reasonable price of $34,995.00

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From: jerry_94110 com>
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 11:02:54 AM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: What to look for?

Last weekend I flew to St. Louis to check out a 1986 PT 36 for sale. Larry Kehler was a big help. He volunteered to meet me at the coach to help with the inspection.

Some items we found were:

-Cruise control did not work.
-Fast Idle not working; when engaged, the engine RPM's continue to
increase and never leveled off.
-Back-up camera not working, was receiving power, but no picture.
-Music horn worked, but very low volume. We could not find a volume
control.
-Generator worked, but only showed power on one leg. Not sure if the
generator feeds both legs? Both air-conditions did run.
-Welds are broken on base of upper ladder (not the lower one that is
attached to the engine cover) that is used to get on the roof.
Simple fix, but what could be the root cause to create the weld to
break?
-When driving, water started to drip from front roof vented. When I
looked on the roof, it didn't appear to have any sitting water. Can
there be water trapped in the roof?
-Could not get the electric drapes to close, maybe a switch was not
turn on somewhere.
-It appears to have been winterized since 2007. Not sure if that
would have any effects on the plumbing system?
-Side vent on the street side that opens upward to get to the
batteries/engine does not appear to latch, it just hangs there.
Should there be a latch on this?
-Vent over shower was cracked and stuck in the open position.
-General cosmetic issues:
Rust on rims and lugs.
Needs tires all around
Some rust forming on heater vents with coach.
Some of the screws around the coach that secure emblems
appear to have rust.
Paint is in fair to a bit better then poor condition.

My biggest concern that we found was the generator. Any comments on the above would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Gerard Kocher
2003 30' Airstream Travel Trailer / BB Wannabe
San Francisco, CA

--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", "jerry_94110" wrote:
>
> I have been a member of this site for around 2 years. I think I have found a coach (1986 PT36) that will meet my needs and budget. I will be traveling from San Francisco to St. Louis the weekend of the 29th to view the coach. I have printed a check list off of the vintage bird site to help me inspect the coach.
>
> Can anyone let me know of any major components that I should check out that can possibly be a deal breaker on a 1986 coach?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Gerard Kocher
> 2003 30' Airstream Travel Trailer
> San Francisco, CA
>