6V92 Red Block

[carrbigdog]

I have an 82PT40 with the "red block" 6V92.
This unit is underpowered and I am wondering if anyone has been able to improve
the performance on these engines.
We can cruise at 65 in the flat lands, but any little hill drops us down to 45
and big hills take us down to 30-35.
Not much difference if we are towing our Suzuki XL-7 or not.
We love it, but would love a little more power.
Any suggestions would be appreciated as we have another 8 months before we
retire and spend more time cruising the highways and byways.

Dan Carr
82PT40 6V92 (red block)
from the flatlands of eastern oHIo
Columbiana, OH

[Markus Meyer]

Dan,



I understand there were only 6 PT40's produced in1982. You own one, there are 2 owned by guys on WOG, and I am picking mine up hopefully end of next month. Where's the other 2?!



I was toldthe one I'm gettinghas had some "tweaks" done to make it peppier, I'll let you know once I get the details.

Markus

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To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: carrbigdog@...
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:30:10 +0000
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] 6V92 Red Block

I have an 82PT40 with the "red block" 6V92.
This unit is underpowered and I am wondering if anyone has been able to improve the performance on these engines.
We can cruise at 65 in the flat lands, but any little hill drops us down to 45 and big hills take us down to 30-35.
Not much difference if we are towing our Suzuki XL-7 or not.
We love it, but would love a little more power.
Any suggestions would be appreciated as we have another 8 months before we retire and spend more time cruising the highways and byways.

Dan Carr
82PT40 6V92 (red block)
from the flatlands of eastern oHIo
Columbiana, OH

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[Ernie Ekberg]

Dan, don't feel like you are alone. I have the silver in my coach. I drove Terry Neals red and can tell no difference. They both are slow on the hills. Ernie- currently in Dumas, Tx watching it snow Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx 817-475-3991 www.ernieekbergflooring.net --- On Wed, 3/24/10, carrbigdog wrote: From: carrbigdog Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] 6V92 Red Block To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 10:30 AM I have an 82PT40 with the "red block" 6V92. This unit is underpowered and I am wondering if anyone has been able to improve the performance on these engines. We can cruise at 65 in the flat lands, but any little hill drops us down to 45 and big hills take us down to 30-35. Not much difference if we are towing our Suzuki XL-7 or not. We love it, but would love a little more power. Any suggestions would be appreciated as we have another 8 months before we retire and spend more time cruising the highways and byways. Dan Carr 82PT40 6V92 (red block) from the flatlands of eastern oHIo Columbiana, OH

[Ralph]

[Michael]

Ok.. "red block" vs "silver block" 6V92's. The red block is the older version of 6v92's. The silver version came out to fix some issues the red version had. The big one that I'm aware of was cooling jackets inside the engine. The older versions of the 6v92 were MUCH easier to get more power from. You can easily change out a few mechanical items and boost HP from stock 188 to 350.

However, if you have an engine around '80-81 and newer you'll have the DDEC system and these are much more difficult to deal with. The issue with these is that you'll have trouble finding someone to reprogram the DDEC. When I tried here locally (Phx) no one would do it for fear of Governmental Environmental Agencies. Apparently they de-tuned them for less pollution as the 2-strokes are really bad.

People will argue that increasing the HP from 188 to 350 will drastically decrease engine life. Well I'm sure it will reduce the life but we're only putting "casual" miles on these commercial units so you'll get many years from it even when boosting up the HP. I have ridden in an RTS City bus that was converted and bumped from 188 to 350. Even with its 3sp auto transmission it was like night & day!

Michael

63FC35 Bluebird Conversion

78FC35 Bluebird Wanderlodge

[Ernie Ekberg]

I can speak for Terry and my 6v92. They are mechanical. The only computer in the coach is the laptop. Ernie- currently in Lamar, Co Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx 817-475-3991 www.ernieekbergflooring.net --- On Thu, 3/25/10, Michael <mike.putz@...> wrote: From: Michael <mike.putz@...> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 6V92 Red Block To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 11:54 AM Ok.. "red block" vs "silver block" 6V92's. The red block is the older version of 6v92's. The silver version came out to fix some issues the red version had. The big one that I'm aware of was cooling jackets inside the engine. The older versions of the 6v92 were MUCH easier to get more power from. You can easily change out a few mechanical items and boost HP from stock 188 to 350. However, if you have an engine around '80-81 and newer you'll have the DDEC system and these are much more difficult to deal with. The issue with these is that you'll have trouble finding someone to reprogram the DDEC. When I tried here locally (Phx) no one would do it for fear of Governmental Environmental Agencies. Apparently they de-tuned them for less pollution as the 2-strokes are really bad. People will argue that increasing the HP from 188 to 350 will drastically decrease engine life. Well I'm sure it will reduce the life but we're only putting "casual" miles on these commercial units so you'll get many years from it even when boosting up the HP. I have ridden in an RTS City bus that was converted and bumped from 188 to 350. Even with its 3sp auto transmission it was like night & day! Michael 63FC35 Bluebird Conversion 78FC35 Bluebird Wanderlodge

[wolfpack_guns]

I am one of the guys that owns an 82 PT-40 with the Red 92. There should be 2
files 6v92na-t_ind.pdf and 6v92ta-tta_automotive.pdf that maybe in the files sec
on the forum.

The files pretty much tells the story on this engine. Stuff like, Max. 335BHP
957lb ft torque @ 1300 rpm. with the 9290 injectors, power goes down from here.

If you can not find the files send me an e-mail and I'll send them to you.

Just a thought, it would be nice if all us 82 PT-40 owners could get together
and share what's in our Blue Boxes. I know I am missing some things, how about
you?.


J R & Deane Saunders
in The Great Take State of Washington
(South of SEA-TAC) aka jr182pilot
1982 PT40
KarKaddy SS/02 Windstar
Cruiseairs & Roof Airs
Red 6V92
Photobucket http://tinyurl.com/cn85dx




--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Markus Meyer wrote:>
> Dan,
> I understand there were only 6 PT40's produced in 1982. You own one, there
are 2 owned by guys on WOG, and I am picking mine up hopefully end of next
month. Where's the other 2?!

I was told the one I'm getting has had some "tweaks" done to make it peppier,
I'll let you know once I get the details.
Markus

[Rick Gunther]

This is a non DDEC motor, correct? In the fire service, we used to take the valve covers off and on one side (can't remember right or left)there is an oil reservoir that restricts the rack from moving too fast. It has a piston that moves in a cylinder that is full of motor oil and has a small orfice the oil must pass through and slows down the rack to keep from getting a big puff of smoke out the pipe. This will get you better throttle response but make sure Al Gore and his minions are not following you! RIck IN Ohio --- On Thu, 3/25/10, wolfpack_guns wrote: From: wolfpack_guns Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 6V92 Red Block To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 1:57 PM I am one of the guys that owns an 82 PT-40 with the Red 92. There should be 2 files 6v92na-t_ind. pdf and 6v92ta-tta_automoti ve.pdf that maybe in the files sec on the forum. The files pretty much tells the story on this engine. Stuff like, Max. 335BHP 957lb ft torque @ 1300 rpm. with the 9290 injectors, power goes down from here. If you can not find the files send me an e-mail and I'll send them to you. Just a thought, it would be nice if all us 82 PT-40 owners could get together and share what's in our Blue Boxes. I know I am missing some things, how about you?. J R & Deane Saunders in The Great Take State of Washington (South of SEA-TAC) aka jr182pilot 1982 PT40 KarKaddy SS/02 Windstar Cruiseairs & Roof Airs Red 6V92 Photobucket http://tinyurl. com/cn85dx --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Markus Meyer wrote:> > Dan, > I understand there were only 6 PT40's produced in 1982. You own one, there are 2 owned by guys on WOG, and I am picking mine up hopefully end of next month. Where's the other 2?! I was told the one I'm getting has had some "tweaks" done to make it peppier, I'll let you know once I get the details. Markus

[Terry Neal]

6V92ers,

I have a pretty complete Blue Box with mine. Including various option
manuals. I also have a complete (I think) set of blue prints for mine.



Now, how to best go about documenting what we each have? Ideas?
Ernie????



Terry

Terry Neal

Bozeman, MT

82PT40 6V92

73FC33 6V53





On 03/25/2010 11:57 AM, wolfpack_guns wrote:

I am one of the guys that owns an 82 PT-40 with the Red 92. There
should be 2 files 6v92na-t_ind.pdf and 6v92ta-tta_automotive.pdf
that maybe in the files sec on the forum.



The files pretty much tells the story on this engine. Stuff like, Max.
335BHP 957lb ft torque @ 1300 rpm. with the 9290 injectors, power goes
down from here.



If you can not find the files send me an e-mail and I'll send them to
you.



Just a thought, it would be nice if all us 82 PT-40 owners could get
together and share what's in our Blue Boxes. I know I am missing some
things, how about you?.



J R & Deane Saunders

in The Great Take State of Washington

(South of SEA-TAC) aka jr182pilot

1982 PT40

KarKaddy SS/02 Windstar

Cruiseairs & Roof Airs

Red 6V92

Photobucket http://tinyurl.com/cn85dx



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com",
Markus Meyer ...> wrote:>

> Dan,

> I understand there were only 6 PT40's produced in 1982. You own
one, there are 2 owned by guys on WOG, and I am picking mine up
hopefully end of next month. Where's the other 2?!



I was told the one I'm getting has had some "tweaks" done to make it
peppier, I'll let you know once I get the details.

Markus

[Markus Meyer]

JR,



So, there are more than 6 PT40's then, as you are now #7 that I know of!

Markus

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To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: fatguyslim.82bbwlpt40@...
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:57:48 +0000
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 6V92 Red Block

I am one of the guys that owns an 82 PT-40 with the Red 92. me things, how about you?.

J R & Deane Saunders
in The Great Take State of Washington
(South of SEA-TAC) aka jr182pilot
1982 PT40

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