Towing

[david brady]

This might help:



http://www2.dana.com/pdf/AXSM-8942.pdf



"AFTER OVERHAUL OR CHANGE INTERVALS

Fill the axle assembly to the bottom of housing fill hole as

shown in the illustration below. It is recommended that

following an overhaul, each side of the axle be jacked up

seperately to approximately six inches and held into

position for one minute. This procedure will allow

adequate lubricant to flow into the wheel ends and help

eliminate the possibility of premature damage to wheel

bearings and seals. Lower the vehicle to the floor and

allow ten minutes for lube to return to normal level. Check

and refill assembly to bottom of fill hole to replace the

lubricant that was directed into the wheel ends."



David

'02 LXi, NC



timvasqz wrote:

I thought the tilt was during draining to get oil away from each
hub

and use gravity to overcome the molecular attraction that holds oil to

the level housing.

Greg

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[Stuart]

Anyone towing a Dodge Ram 2500 quad cab 4x4 8' bed diesel PU or similar type
vehicle 4 wheels down? Weighs in at 6000 lbs empty, has been set up to for
towing using Roadmaster towbar rated at over 8ooo lbs. Was originally intended
to be towed by 2004 Winnebago Journey 32' diesel pusher, a task Winnebago sales
people gauranteed was capable of. Winnebago is too short, too light and Dodge
too heavy, steering too stiff, result an unsafe combination. Are any 3-axel 40'
Bluebird diesel pushers safely capable of such a task?

[mbulriss]

>Are any 3-axle 40' Bluebird diesel pushers safely capable
>of such a task?
In a word: Yes. Especially with the 8V92 or Series 60.

Keep the rear view camera on so you know it is back there. Don't know about
your specific model, but many of our members tow Jeep Grand Cherokees,
Suburbans, Hummers, or large trailers. One of our Lone Star Bird members
regularly towed a 24 foot enclosed trailer with race car, spare parts, golf
cart, etc. (~10k lbs) with no problems. Ernie towed a 1-ton(?) work van full of
tools, on a trailer, with his 6V92 PT40, so the weight is not a problem. The
hitch receiver assembly on the Birds is 10,000 lb rated as I recall.

It is not just the PT models that are capable of this. Many of our FC members
are pulling some pretty stout loads. Ralph pulled a 24' enclosed trailer all
over the country with his.

Welcome to the forum and happy hunting for a Bird. Please sign your posts so we
know who we are chatting with.

Thanks,

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart" wrote:
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> Anyone towing a Dodge Ram 2500 quad cab 4x4 8' bed diesel PU or similar type
vehicle 4 wheels down? Weighs in at 6000 lbs empty, has been set up to for
towing using Roadmaster towbar rated at over 8ooo lbs. Was originally intended
to be towed by 2004 Winnebago Journey 32' diesel pusher, a task Winnebago sales
people gauranteed was capable of. Winnebago is too short, too light and Dodge
too heavy, steering too stiff, result an unsafe combination. Are any 3-axel 40'
Bluebird diesel pushers safely capable of such a task?
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[Wayne Kotila]

Stuart, I frequently pulled a skidloader and alot of equipment on a double axle trailer. The total trailer and load weighed in at about10,000 pounds and I had a 1985 Wanderlodge PT40. The coach handled it with ease and other than seeingthe trailerin the camera and in the mirrors I could not tell it was back there. I now have a 1996 Wanderlodge PT42 and plan on pulling a Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 quad cab with a short box and based on my previous heavy load towing experience with a Wanderlodge, I think it will be just fine.

Good Luck

Wayne

96PT42

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From: Stuart
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 7:35:30 PM
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Towing

Anyone towing a Dodge Ram 2500 quad cab 4x4 8' bed diesel PU or similar type vehicle 4 wheels down? Weighs in at 6000 lbs empty, has been set up to for towing using Roadmaster towbar rated at over 8ooo lbs. Was originally intended to be towed by 2004 Winnebago Journey 32' diesel pusher, a task Winnebago sales people gauranteed was capable of. Winnebago is too short, too light and Dodge too heavy, steering too stiff, result an unsafe combination. Are any 3-axel 40' Bluebird diesel pushers safely capable of such a task?

[Ernie Ekberg]

I know of quite a few that tow some heavy loads behind their pushers- like me. I tow a 1 ton van full of tools on a flatbed car hauler. My coach is rated at 10,000 pounds and I'm close to that. Mike Kane tows his 1 ton Chevy pickup 4 down. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx 817-475-3991 www.ernieekbergflooring.net --- On Tue, 4/13/10, Stuart wrote: From: Stuart Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Towing To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 7:35 PM Anyone towing a Dodge Ram 2500 quad cab 4x4 8' bed diesel PU or similar type vehicle 4 wheels down? Weighs in at 6000 lbs empty, has been set up to for towing using Roadmaster towbar rated at over 8ooo lbs. Was originally intended to be towed by 2004 Winnebago Journey 32' diesel pusher, a task Winnebago sales people gauranteed was capable of. Winnebago is too short, too light and Dodge too heavy, steering too stiff, result an unsafe combination. Are any 3-axel 40' Bluebird diesel pushers safely capable of such a task?

[Markus Meyer]

Ernie,

Is your towing setup the "factory setup" or did you have it altered? I'm just
wondering because the owners manual/documents for m 82 list the towing rated at
7500 lbs, not 10,000 lbs. I realize they could have upgraded it from one year
to the next, but that would surprise me a little considering 83 was only the
second year of the pushers.


Markus
82 PT40



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to be towed by 2004 Winnebago Journey 32' diesel pusher, a task Winnebago sales
people gauranteed was capable of. Winnebago is too short, too light and Dodge
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[Ernie Ekberg]

Markus, I believe it was factory. When Ron Marabitos coach caught fire last year, the towing company brought it to the field beside my place. It sat there a few days till a towing company with the Landall showed up. The tow truck hooked a cable on the hitch and backed the coach- 48,000 pounds on grass out of the field and onto the Landall. Now, if those hitches are just rated 10,000 how come the operator could do that without damaging the hitch? So I bet you are good to go in whatever you want to tow. Better yet, upload a picture on that hitch for us. Ernie Ekberg 83PT40 Wanderlodge Weatherford, Tx 817-475-3991 www.ernieekbergflooring.net --- On Wed, 4/14/10, Markus Meyer wrote: From: Markus Meyer Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Towing To: wanderlodgeforum@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 6:34 AM Ernie, Is your towing setup the "factory setup" or did you have it altered? I'm just wondering because the owners manual/documents for m 82 list the towing rated at 7500 lbs, not 10,000 lbs. I realize they could have upgraded it from one year to the next, but that would surprise me a little considering 83 was only the second year of the pushers. Markus 82 PT40 ________________________________ > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > From: ernietex@... > Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 04:30:22 -0700 > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Towing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know of quite a few that tow some heavy loads behind their pushers- like me. I tow a 1 ton van full of tools on a flatbed car hauler. My coach is rated at 10,000 pounds and I'm close to that. Mike Kane tows his 1 ton Chevy pickup 4 down. > > > Ernie Ekberg > > 83PT40 > > Wanderlodge > > Weatherford, Tx 817-475-3991 > > http://www.ernieekbergflooring.net > > > --- On Tue, 4/13/10, Stuart wrote: > > > From: Stuart > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Towing > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 7:35 PM > > > > > Anyone towing a Dodge Ram 2500 quad cab 4x4 8' bed diesel PU or similar type vehicle 4 wheels down? Weighs in at 6000 lbs empty, has been set up to for towing using Roadmaster towbar rated at over 8ooo lbs. Was originally intended to be towed by 2004 Winnebago Journey 32' diesel pusher, a task Winnebago sales people gauranteed was capable of. Winnebago is too short, too light and Dodge too heavy, steering too stiff, result an unsafe combination. Are any 3-axel 40' Bluebird diesel pushers safely capable of such a task? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/then...P:042010_2 ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: WanderlodgeForum-digest@yahoogroups.com WanderlodgeForum-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[mbulriss]

Markus,

82/83 was before they started putting receiver assemblies on the Birds. I think
the actual platform hitch assembly was the same on both as I recall. Could be
that the load rating difference you are reporting be related to the fact that
the 82PT had the 6V92 "Red" engine rated at 300HP and the 83 PT had the 6V92
"Silver: at 330HP (and more torque).

Mike Bulriss
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX


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wondering because the owners manual/documents for m 82 list the towing rated at
7500 lbs, not 10,000 lbs. I realize they could have upgraded it from one year
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towing using Roadmaster towbar rated at over 8ooo lbs. Was originally intended
to be towed by 2004 Winnebago Journey 32' diesel pusher, a task Winnebago sales
people gauranteed was capable of. Winnebago is too short, too light and Dodge
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[Al Scudder]

Not a Dodge but I tow a Tahoe 5,600lbs loaded with books and work related items AND aplatform 5x4 with two Yamaha scooters tied down on back and mylimit is close. The Bird doesn't know the difference between that set up or nothing to the milage maybe .5 miles per gallon on a M11450 Cummins

Scooter 2000LX Michigan

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To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
From: stuart42@...
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:35:30 +0000
Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Towing

Anyone towing a Dodge Ram 2500 quad cab 4x4 8' bed diesel PU or similar type vehicle 4 wheels down? Weighs in at 6000 lbs empty, has been set up to for towing using Roadmaster towbar rated at over 8ooo lbs. Was originally intended to be towed by 2004 Winnebago Journey 32' diesel pusher, a task Winnebago sales people gauranteed was capable of. Winnebago is too short, too light and Dodge too heavy, steering too stiff, result an unsafe combination. Are any 3-axel 40' Bluebird diesel pushers safely capable of such a task?

[Markus Meyer]

Could very well be. I don't have the coach here to look at it myself, but the
pics I have do make it look more like a "bumper hitch", than the true
receiver/tubular style hitch. I'll know better in a few weeks when I can get up
close and personal with it.

You are right though, mine is the "red" engine from what I can tell in the
documentation, although I've been told its "tweaked" and puts out more than
300hp, something I will never verify or care to have verified!

Markus
82 PT40


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> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
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> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: Towing
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think the actual platform hitch assembly was the same on both as I recall. Could
be that the load rating difference you are reporting be related to the fact that
the 82PT had the 6V92 "Red" engine rated at 300HP and the 83 PT had the 6V92
"Silver: at 330HP (and more torque).
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wondering because the owners manual/documents for m 82 list the towing rated at
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the next, but that would surprise me a little considering 83 was only the second
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down.
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vehicle 4 wheels down? Weighs in at 6000 lbs empty, has been set up to for
towing using Roadmaster towbar rated at over 8ooo lbs. Was originally intended
to be towed by 2004 Winnebago Journey 32' diesel pusher, a task Winnebago sales
people gauranteed was capable of. Winnebago is too short, too light and Dodge
too heavy, steering too stiff, result an unsafe combination. Are any 3-axel 40'
Bluebird diesel pushers safely capable of such a task?
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