1976 diesel F-29296

[Jason Stahl]

Interior pics would help. Blue Bird used specific materials and components that would indicate factory or not. As to the engine working, My '72 prototype sat neglected for 6 years and started right up with only a new battery. Have put a couple hundred miles on it already.

Jason

On May 18, 2011, at 12:03 PM, wbostow wrote:

Help! I can't figure out what I'm looking over:



1976 Blue Bird motorhome body # F-29296(can't find the word Wanderlodge)

It's a diesel, factory service number 125680.



Chassis serial # 9455

Engine # 20147287



It has a diesel Onan 12,ODJC-3CR/2701AA generator and three rooftop ACs. Could those be original?



Is this a "Wanderlodge"?

The ususal fold-down dining table area has a counter with drawers. Could that have been an original option?



Would that be a CAT diesel propulsion engine?



What are the odds of getting engines working again without rebuild after 2+ years of non-start?



I can't find VIN locators and don't find any diesels before 1977 on the vintage Wanderlodge site.



Any help would be appreciated including where to look or whom to call. Thanks!

[DART]

Mike

Yes I can create a photo album of the
galley counter. It might take a little time, I’m not really
familiar with the procedure, but I will try my best.

Dart

90 WBWL PT 40

Royale Conversion

Florida

[George Burke]

When I bot my Bird a few yrs. back, I was told that it was a 1977 FC31. Looking up front sometime later, I saw that it was described as follows, Body No. F28328, Model Yr. 1976, Factory Service Number 125028. All of these numbers are lower than the numbers that you spoke of. With (3) A/C's you would be looking at something longer than a 31', as mine is that, and has (2) A/C's. Mine is powered by a 534 C.I. Ford gas engine, and also has a Onan 6.5 KW gas generator. I understand that 1977 was the last of the gas powered Birds. You may be looking at a late 1976 or actually a early 1977 bird. I know that a lot of the parts on my Bird can be traced to 1976, which makes sense, as they didn't sell immediately after they were completed. Would be best if you checked for any other paper work in the vehicle. Look for install/completion dates on any part that you may find. Good Luck, George Burke 1977 ? FC31 Charlotte

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:03 PM, wbostow <"wbostow@excite.com"> wrote:

 

Help! I can't figure out what I'm looking over:



1976 Blue Bird motorhome body # F-29296(can't find the word Wanderlodge)

It's a diesel, factory service number 125680.



Chassis serial # 9455

Engine # 20147287



It has a diesel Onan 12,ODJC-3CR/2701AA generator and three rooftop ACs. Could those be original?



Is this a "Wanderlodge"?

The ususal fold-down dining table area has a counter with drawers. Could that have been an original option?



Would that be a CAT diesel propulsion engine?



What are the odds of getting engines working again without rebuild after 2+ years of non-start?



I can't find VIN locators and don't find any diesels before 1977 on the vintage Wanderlodge site.



Any help would be appreciated including where to look or whom to call. Thanks!

[wbostow]

Neat! Was that a diesel engine? Did the same apply to the generator? Had you put
it into "mothballs" prior to its sitting? --WB


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Jason Stahl wrote:
>
> Interior pics would help. Blue Bird used specific materials and components
that would indicate factory or not. As to the engine working, My '72 prototype
sat neglected for 6 years and started right up with only a new battery. Have put
a couple hundred miles on it already.
>
> Jason
>
>
> On May 18, 2011, at 12:03 PM, wbostow wrote:
>
> >
> > Help! I can't figure out what I'm looking over:
> >
> > 1976 Blue Bird motorhome body # F-29296(can't find the word Wanderlodge)
> > It's a diesel, factory service number 125680.
> >
> > Chassis serial # 9455
> > Engine # 20147287
> >
> > It has a diesel Onan 12,ODJC-3CR/2701AA generator and three rooftop ACs.
Could those be original?
> >
> > Is this a "Wanderlodge"?
> > The ususal fold-down dining table area has a counter with drawers. Could
that have been an original option?
> >
> > Would that be a CAT diesel propulsion engine?
> >
> > What are the odds of getting engines working again without rebuild after 2+
years of non-start?
> >
> > I can't find VIN locators and don't find any diesels before 1977 on the
vintage Wanderlodge site.
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated including where to look or whom to call.
Thanks!
> >
> >
>

[wbostow]

If I end up getting it, I'd most likely prefer to have a dinette and it's
curious to think that it might be possible to trade with someone who wants to go
the other direction. How long were they using the dark walnut? --WB


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...> wrote:
>
> Dart,
>
> Could you create a Photo albumn on the forum site and post some pictures of
that dining area in your Royale Bird? That is something of interest to do to
our 91 and it would be great to see how yours was done. Michael Brundridge just
did something similar in his 94 also, but it would be nice to see others.
>
> Thanks a bunch,
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "DART" wrote:
> >
> > Are you sure it's a '76? I know of a '77, 33' Wanderlodge that was owned by
> > Dr. Lloyd "Whitey" Sanders. He had the dinette removed and replaced by a
> > counter top with drawers underneath. Much like I have in my PT 40 Royale
> > Conversion.
> >
> > Dart
> >
> > 90 WLWB Pt40
> >
> > Royale Conversion
> >
> > Florida
> >
>

[Jason Stahl]

It is a Cummins 555 turbo and don't know how it was stored, I just bought it, but I don't think they did anything special. Change the fuel filter, diesel grows algae. The genset is taking more work as it is a gas unit in mine. Carb was all gummed up and still surges. Might need the carb replaced, but it does run and make volts.

Jason

On May 20, 2011, at 7:19 PM, wbostow wrote:

Neat! Was that a diesel engine? Did the same apply to the generator? Had you put it into "mothballs" prior to its sitting? --WB



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Jason Stahl wrote:

>

> Interior pics would help. Blue Bird used specific materials and components that would indicate factory or not. As to the engine working, My '72 prototype sat neglected for 6 years and started right up with only a new battery. Have put a couple hundred miles on it already.

>

> Jason

>

>

> On May 18, 2011, at 12:03 PM, wbostow wrote:

>

> >

> > Help! I can't figure out what I'm looking over:

> >

> > 1976 Blue Bird motorhome body # F-29296(can't find the word Wanderlodge)

> > It's a diesel, factory service number 125680.

> >

> > Chassis serial # 9455

> > Engine # 20147287

> >

> > It has a diesel Onan 12,ODJC-3CR/2701AA generator and three rooftop ACs. Could those be original?

> >

> > Is this a "Wanderlodge"?

> > The ususal fold-down dining table area has a counter with drawers. Could that have been an original option?

> >

> > Would that be a CAT diesel propulsion engine?

> >

> > What are the odds of getting engines working again without rebuild after 2+ years of non-start?

> >

> > I can't find VIN locators and don't find any diesels before 1977 on the vintage Wanderlodge site.

> >

> > Any help would be appreciated including where to look or whom to call. Thanks!

> >

> >

>

[Jason Stahl]

Mine had been taken out and replaced with cabinets as well. I just finished building a dinette and had cushions made. I built it as original, an owner kindly measured theirs and drew up plans for me!

[Jason Stahl]

No, they put mine in the closet just before the rear bedroom along with the breaker panel.

On May 21, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Ernie Ekberg wrote:

Jason looks good. Is your transfer switch in the booth by the entry steps? Ernie Ekberg 817-475-3991-83, 88 PT40s www.ernieekbergflooring.net --- On Sat, 5/21/11, Jason Stahl <"altpyper@sbcglobal.net"> wrote: From: Jason Stahl <"altpyper@sbcglobal.net"> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: 1976 diesel F-29296 [1 Attachment] To: "WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com" Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 2:30 PM Mine had been taken out and replaced with cabinets as well. I just finished building a dinette and had cushions made. I built it as original, an owner kindly measured theirs and drew up plans for me! On May 20, 2011, at 7:27 PM, wbostow wrote: If I end up getting it, I'd most likely prefer to have a dinette and it's curious to think that it might be possible to trade with someone who wants to go the other direction. How long were they using the dark walnut? --WB --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "mbulriss" <mbulriss@...> wrote: > > Dart, > > Could you create a Photo albumn on the forum site and post some pictures of that dining area in your Royale Bird? That is something of interest to do to our 91 and it would be great to see how yours was done. Michael Brundridge just did something similar in his 94 also, but it would be nice to see others. > > Thanks a bunch, > > Mike Bulriss > 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan" > San Antonio, TX > > > > > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "DART" wrote: > > > > Are you sure it's a '76? I know of a '77, 33' Wanderlodge that was owned by > > Dr. Lloyd "Whitey" Sanders. He had the dinette removed and replaced by a > > counter top with drawers underneath. Much like I have in my PT 40 Royale > > Conversion. > > > > Dart > > > > 90 WLWB Pt40 > > > > Royale Conversion > > > > Florida > > >

[freewill2008]

What does it take to fit a 555 into a Bird that was set up for V8 engines? Some
pictures of the engine area would be interesting.

Bob Griesel 84 FC31 WLII WA

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Jason Stahl wrote:
>
> It is a Cummins 555 turbo and don't know how it was stored, I just bought it,
but I don't think they did anything special. Change the fuel filter, diesel
grows algae. The genset is taking more work as it is a gas unit in mine. Carb
was all gummed up and still surges. Might need the carb replaced, but it does
run and make volts.
>
> Jason
>
>
> On May 20, 2011, at 7:19 PM, wbostow wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Neat! Was that a diesel engine? Did the same apply to the generator? Had you
put it into "mothballs" prior to its sitting? --WB
> >
> > --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Jason Stahl wrote:
> > >
> > > Interior pics would help. Blue Bird used specific materials and components
that would indicate factory or not. As to the engine working, My '72 prototype
sat neglected for 6 years and started right up with only a new battery. Have put
a couple hundred miles on it already.
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 18, 2011, at 12:03 PM, wbostow wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Help! I can't figure out what I'm looking over:
> > > >
> > > > 1976 Blue Bird motorhome body # F-29296(can't find the word Wanderlodge)
> > > > It's a diesel, factory service number 125680.
> > > >
> > > > Chassis serial # 9455
> > > > Engine # 20147287
> > > >
> > > > It has a diesel Onan 12,ODJC-3CR/2701AA generator and three rooftop ACs.
Could those be original?
> > > >
> > > > Is this a "Wanderlodge"?
> > > > The ususal fold-down dining table area has a counter with drawers. Could
that have been an original option?
> > > >
> > > > Would that be a CAT diesel propulsion engine?
> > > >
> > > > What are the odds of getting engines working again without rebuild after
2+ years of non-start?
> > > >
> > > > I can't find VIN locators and don't find any diesels before 1977 on the
vintage Wanderlodge site.
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be appreciated including where to look or whom to call.
Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

[Jason Stahl]

As I have one of the handful of prototypes built on a Jay Madsen pusher chassis, the engine compartment is cavernous and they had no trouble fitting a 555 in place of the Ford gas engine. They did have to cut a notch for the turbo, a small sheet metal box intrudes in the bedroom area for it.

Jason

On May 21, 2011, at 6:43 PM, freewill2008 wrote:

What does it take to fit a 555 into a Bird that was set up for V8 engines? Some pictures of the engine area would be interesting.



Bob Griesel 84 FC31 WLII WA



--- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Jason Stahl wrote:

>

> It is a Cummins 555 turbo and don't know how it was stored, I just bought it, but I don't think they did anything special. Change the fuel filter, diesel grows algae. The genset is taking more work as it is a gas unit in mine. Carb was all gummed up and still surges. Might need the carb replaced, but it does run and make volts.

>

> Jason

>

>

> On May 20, 2011, at 7:19 PM, wbostow wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Neat! Was that a diesel engine? Did the same apply to the generator? Had you put it into "mothballs" prior to its sitting? --WB

> >

> > --- In "WanderlodgeForum%40yahoogroups.com", Jason Stahl wrote:

> > >

> > > Interior pics would help. Blue Bird used specific materials and components that would indicate factory or not. As to the engine working, My '72 prototype sat neglected for 6 years and started right up with only a new battery. Have put a couple hundred miles on it already.

> > >

> > > Jason

> > >

> > >

> > > On May 18, 2011, at 12:03 PM, wbostow wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Help! I can't figure out what I'm looking over:

> > > >

> > > > 1976 Blue Bird motorhome body # F-29296(can't find the word Wanderlodge)

> > > > It's a diesel, factory service number 125680.

> > > >

> > > > Chassis serial # 9455

> > > > Engine # 20147287

> > > >

> > > > It has a diesel Onan 12,ODJC-3CR/2701AA generator and three rooftop ACs. Could those be original?

> > > >

> > > > Is this a "Wanderlodge"?

> > > > The ususal fold-down dining table area has a counter with drawers. Could that have been an original option?

> > > >

> > > > Would that be a CAT diesel propulsion engine?

> > > >

> > > > What are the odds of getting engines working again without rebuild after 2+ years of non-start?

> > > >

> > > > I can't find VIN locators and don't find any diesels before 1977 on the vintage Wanderlodge site.

> > > >

> > > > Any help would be appreciated including where to look or whom to call. Thanks!

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>