1989 WB Bluebird

[erniecarpet@...]

Doug, where is this coach located? Maybe one of our members knows about it?
Ernie-83PT40 in Texas, heading to Montana in am


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[erniecarpet@...]

Doug, the name doesn't ring a bell to me. Perhaps others will know this
coach. Bleakley contacted me about a 90 coach, priced really low. Brenda and I
checked it out but just couldn't fall in love with that one. Since we just
remodeled ours, it's hard to part with her, now. Good luck, Ernie-83PT40 in
Texas


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[dougtidwellhome]

I posted a few questions about buying a Bluebird earlier. I am going
to inspect this 1989 bluebird with about 150,000 miles. Appears to be
in good shape and discussions with previous owner were positive. Can
anyone give me some pointers to look for in this model used coach. I
am getting an oil analysis, and computer information but I sure need
any other recommendations on what to look for. Any help would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks! Doug Tidwell

[Doug Tidwell]

Ernie,

The coach is located at John Bleakley RV in Georgia. It belonged to a gentleman
in Texas (Bill McDaniels) for the past few years.

Thanks!

Doug Tidwell
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Doug, where is this coach located? Maybe one of our members knows about it?
Ernie-83PT40 in Texas, heading to Montana in am


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[Tom Warner]

Doug dont waste your money on an oil analysis. An oil analysis is only good
if you have others to compare it with and the sample is taken at or near
oil change time so you get used oil to sample. If anyone has changed the
oil lately and you can bet it has been the only thing an oil analysis will
do now is to lighten your pocket.

I believe John Bleakley is a reputable organization from what I have
personally observed. I went there when another forum member Dave Campbell
bought I believe a 1988 PT40 WB from them at a RITV that I sponsered him at
about 3 years ago. He was very satisfied with their service and the upgrade
work he had done on the coach. I would suggest you get a good inspection
done by them and annotate it on your sales receipt. Or hire Ralph
Fullenwider to do a PDI on it for you and use that to get the necessary
repairs done and up to snuff.

Good luck

Tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

07:24 PM 7/26/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>Ernie,
>
>The coach is located at John Bleakley RV in Georgia. It belonged to a
>gentleman in Texas (Bill McDaniels) for the past few years.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Doug Tidwell
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[Tom Warner]

Ernie Bleakley has only one 1989 PT40 listed in his stock and that is at
Bankhead Hwy in Georgia and the 1990 you were called on is in Unandilla.
The 1989 is listed as contracted and if that is the one that Doug has
already signed for its a little late to be asking these questions hes
already bought it!!!!!

Good god fellows if you want a dealer to do certain things the time to
negotiate is before you sign on the dotted line not after. If you are lucky
you may have some wiggle room with this dealer since I believe he is very
honest. But you better hurry.

You can see the Bleakley listing at
http://www.bleakleyrv.com/index.php?app=1037

Good luck

Tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY


n UnAt 09:18 PM 7/26/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>Doug, the name doesn't ring a bell to me. Perhaps others will know this
>coach. Bleakley contacted me about a 90 coach, priced really low. Brenda
>and I
>checked it out but just couldn't fall in love with that one. Since we just
>remodeled ours, it's hard to part with her, now. Good luck, Ernie-83PT40
>in Texas
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[Doug Tidwell]

Tom,

I am new to this forum and I don't know Ralph Fullenwider. How do you contact
and where does he live? I would probably hire someone after I see the coach and
decide to buy it. John Bleakley offered a free oil analysis to be taken before
they change the oil and they also said they would print off what the computer
history says (I am not familiar with what information you can get from the
computer).

Thanks for your response and help!!

Doug Tidwell
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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 1989 WB Bluebird


Doug dont waste your money on an oil analysis. An oil analysis is only good
if you have others to compare it with and the sample is taken at or near
oil change time so you get used oil to sample. If anyone has changed the
oil lately and you can bet it has been the only thing an oil analysis will
do now is to lighten your pocket.

I believe John Bleakley is a reputable organization from what I have
personally observed. I went there when another forum member Dave Campbell
bought I believe a 1988 PT40 WB from them at a RITV that I sponsered him at
about 3 years ago. He was very satisfied with their service and the upgrade
work he had done on the coach. I would suggest you get a good inspection
done by them and annotate it on your sales receipt. Or hire Ralph
Fullenwider to do a PDI on it for you and use that to get the necessary
repairs done and up to snuff.

Good luck

Tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

07:24 PM 7/26/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>Ernie,
>
>The coach is located at John Bleakley RV in Georgia. It belonged to a
>gentleman in Texas (Bill McDaniels) for the past few years.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Doug Tidwell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: erniecarpet@...
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 1989 WB Bluebird
>
>
> Doug, where is this coach located? Maybe one of our members knows about
> it?
> Ernie-83PT40 in Texas, heading to Montana in am
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[Tom Warner]

Doug I hope I didnt jump the gun on this response but the Bleakley site
shows only one 1989 PT40 and that one is already under contract. Either you
have signed the papers or someone else has. Which is it?

tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

Ernie Bleakley has only one 1989 PT40 listed in his stock and that is at
Bankhead Hwy in Georgia and the 1990 you were called on is in Unandilla.
The 1989 is listed as contracted and if that is the one that Doug has
already signed for its a little late to be asking these questions hes
already bought it!!!!!

Good god fellows if you want a dealer to do certain things the time to
negotiate is before you sign on the dotted line not after. If you are lucky
you may have some wiggle room with this dealer since I believe he is very
honest. But you better hurry.

You can see the Bleakley listing at
http://www.bleakleyrv.com/index.php?app=1037

Good luck

Tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY


n UnAt 09:18 PM 7/26/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>Doug, the name doesn't ring a bell to me. Perhaps others will know this
>coach. Bleakley contacted me about a 90 coach, priced really low. Brenda
>and I
>checked it out but just couldn't fall in love with that one. Since we just
>remodeled ours, it's hard to part with her, now. Good luck, Ernie-83PT40
>in Texas
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[Doug Tidwell]

Tom,

I put a deposit on the coach only to hold the coach until I see and inspect the
coach and was guaranteed that my deposit would refunded at my request if I did
not want or like the coach (it was referred to as first right of refusal). I
have not signed anything. The salesperson said if I did not buy the coach he
has another person on wait (that could be a sales technique or maybe not).

Thanks!

Doug Tidwell
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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 1989 WB Bluebird


Doug I hope I didnt jump the gun on this response but the Bleakley site
shows only one 1989 PT40 and that one is already under contract. Either you
have signed the papers or someone else has. Which is it?

tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

Ernie Bleakley has only one 1989 PT40 listed in his stock and that is at
Bankhead Hwy in Georgia and the 1990 you were called on is in Unandilla.
The 1989 is listed as contracted and if that is the one that Doug has
already signed for its a little late to be asking these questions hes
already bought it!!!!!

Good god fellows if you want a dealer to do certain things the time to
negotiate is before you sign on the dotted line not after. If you are lucky
you may have some wiggle room with this dealer since I believe he is very
honest. But you better hurry.

You can see the Bleakley listing at
http://www.bleakleyrv.com/index.php?app=1037

Good luck

Tom
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY


n UnAt 09:18 PM 7/26/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>Doug, the name doesn't ring a bell to me. Perhaps others will know this
>coach. Bleakley contacted me about a 90 coach, priced really low. Brenda
>and I
>checked it out but just couldn't fall in love with that one. Since we just
>remodeled ours, it's hard to part with her, now. Good luck, Ernie-83PT40
>in Texas
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[Ralph L. Fullenwider]

Hello Doug:

I am in Oklahoma http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm and perform service
work on Birds.

When you go see the Coach, don't be in a rush, take your time and don't be
overwhelmed. It is easy to do, I know, we have all been there.

After a walk through, ask Bleakly to have a service tech come out with a
manometer and do an LP leak down test. This can be done in the refrigerator
out side access compartment. This is important.
Next, open the engine hatch, do a visual check where the hatch gas shocks
mount to the lid. Then check the manifolds for cracks or broken ears by the
hold down bolts. If the turbo piping is covered with heat shielding, as
your facing the engine, on your left in front you will see the turbo
piping, under that shielding you will find a flange covered by a clamp.
Just above the clamp, do a visual check for any cracks.
Next check the battery wiring, it should be 2/0 min cable size. Check the
condition of the cable ends.
As you do your walk through of the Coach, turn on all the lighting systems.
Bring the AC's on line one at a time until all are running and take a look
at the gauges to see if they are balanced and steady. Turn on the Coach
head lights and driving lights, check to be sure they are working. If
memory serves, unless it has been modified ( you will probably make that
modification later) the bright lights have to be on for the driving lights
to work. Check the step in and out function. Check the entry door to be
sure it is not bowed or need an adjustment. Check all the gaskets around
all windows to be sure there is not rust beginning. Go up on top and check
all vents where the base contacts the roof metal, for cracking or if that
d(*&@ silicone has been used to stop leaks. Check all screws holding down
the walk plates to see if they are loose. Look over the side and check the
seams where the awnings meet the coach. If the rain guttering has open
cracks in the sealant, it is not a major concern but you will have to
address that as a prevent maint later on.
Standing at the front of the Coach peer down the sides for anything unusual
like deeper than what should be normal indentations in the skin. Open the
compartments and check the gas shocks and rubber seals. Look under the
compartment edges, especially the front where tire blow outs could have
crumpled the compartments. Check all wheel wells for missing insulation,
this tells you if there has been a blow out, and if any damage from that.
Check the water system to be sure it pressures up and the pump shuts off
properly.

So many things, but this you can do with an informed walk around. Check the
undercarriage for major rust and the bottom of the LP ASME tank is a good
tell tell there.

That is just a few things to look at to start with. Hope this helps a
little. The '89 is a good Coach. Good luck.

Ralph Fullenwider
out of Oklahoma

At 08:32 PM 7/26/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>Tom,
>
>I am new to this forum and I don't know Ralph Fullenwider. How do you
>contact and where does he live? I would probably hire someone after I see
>the coach and decide to buy it. John Bleakley offered a free oil analysis
>to be taken before they change the oil and they also said they would print
>off what the computer history says (I am not familiar with what
>information you can get from the computer).
>
>Thanks for your response and help!!
>
>Doug Tidwell
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Warner
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] 1989 WB Bluebird
>
>
> Doug dont waste your money on an oil analysis. An oil analysis is only
> good
> if you have others to compare it with and the sample is taken at or near
> oil change time so you get used oil to sample. If anyone has changed the
> oil lately and you can bet it has been the only thing an oil analysis will
> do now is to lighten your pocket.
>
> I believe John Bleakley is a reputable organization from what I have
> personally observed. I went there when another forum member Dave Campbell
> bought I believe a 1988 PT40 WB from them at a RITV that I sponsered
> him at
> about 3 years ago. He was very satisfied with their service and the
> upgrade
> work he had done on the coach. I would suggest you get a good inspection
> done by them and annotate it on your sales receipt. Or hire Ralph
> Fullenwider to do a PDI on it for you and use that to get the necessary
> repairs done and up to snuff.
>
> Good luck
>
> Tom
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon Center,NY
>