Hard Starting 1980 Kohler Generator

[shawn_fountain]

My generator does not start at around 55 degrees or lower. If it is
warm, the gen cranks right up. This model does not have glow plugs. If
I plug in a 110 volt radiator heater, the gen starts right up after a
couple of hours. Is this normal for this generator? If not, any
recommendations on a fix? All fluids and filters are new, and
injectors rebuilt summer before last.

Related to this, has anyone used a propane engine heater? Or some 12
volt engine heating system to help starting in cold weather?

Tks,
SDF
Boulder 80FC35

[Tom Warner]

Are you sure you dont have glow plugs? My 1982 Perkins does. You
might want to check closer. They are on the side closest to the passenger.

Tom Warner
1982 FC35
Vernon center,NY

At 09:32 AM 11/2/2005, you wrote:
>My generator does not start at around 55 degrees or lower. If it is
>warm, the gen cranks right up. This model does not have glow plugs. If
>I plug in a 110 volt radiator heater, the gen starts right up after a
>couple of hours. Is this normal for this generator? If not, any
>recommendations on a fix? All fluids and filters are new, and
>injectors rebuilt summer before last.
>
>Related to this, has anyone used a propane engine heater? Or some 12
>volt engine heating system to help starting in cold weather?
>
>Tks,
>SDF
>Boulder 80FC35
>
>
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[Shawn Fountain]

Ralph checked it and he said no glow plugs.

----Original Message Follows----
From: Tom Warner
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To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Hard Starting 1980 Kohler Generator
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:39:16 -0500

Are you sure you dont have glow plugs? My 1982 Perkins does. You
might want to check closer. They are on the side closest to the passenger.

Tom Warner
1982 FC35
Vernon center,NY

At 09:32 AM 11/2/2005, you wrote:
>My generator does not start at around 55 degrees or lower. If it is
>warm, the gen cranks right up. This model does not have glow plugs. If
>I plug in a 110 volt radiator heater, the gen starts right up after a
>couple of hours. Is this normal for this generator? If not, any
>recommendations on a fix? All fluids and filters are new, and
>injectors rebuilt summer before last.
>
>Related to this, has anyone used a propane engine heater? Or some 12
>volt engine heating system to help starting in cold weather?
>
>Tks,
>SDF
>Boulder 80FC35
>
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[Tom Warner]

Then if everything else is working alright ie; it starts fine in warm
weather then you might want to add a cold weather starting kit to
it. Its actually a cannister of ether that automatically injects
into the intake port.

Tom Warner
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

At 11:57 AM 11/2/2005, you wrote:
>Ralph checked it and he said no glow plugs.
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: Tom Warner
>Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Hard Starting 1980 Kohler Generator
>Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:39:16 -0500
>
>Are you sure you dont have glow plugs? My 1982 Perkins does. You
>might want to check closer. They are on the side closest to the passenger.
>
>Tom Warner
>1982 FC35
>Vernon center,NY
>
>At 09:32 AM 11/2/2005, you wrote:
> >My generator does not start at around 55 degrees or lower. If it is
> >warm, the gen cranks right up. This model does not have glow plugs. If
> >I plug in a 110 volt radiator heater, the gen starts right up after a
> >couple of hours. Is this normal for this generator? If not, any
> >recommendations on a fix? All fluids and filters are new, and
> >injectors rebuilt summer before last.
> >
> >Related to this, has anyone used a propane engine heater? Or some 12
> >volt engine heating system to help starting in cold weather?
> >
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> >SDF
> >Boulder 80FC35
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[mjzakowski]

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "shawn_fountain"
<shawn_fountain@h...> wrote:
>
> My generator does not start at around 55 degrees or lower. If it is
> warm, the gen cranks right up. This model does not have glow plugs.
If
> I plug in a 110 volt radiator heater, the gen starts right up after a
> couple of hours. Is this normal for this generator? If not, any
> recommendations on a fix? All fluids and filters are new, and
> injectors rebuilt summer before last.
>
> Related to this, has anyone used a propane engine heater? Or some 12
> volt engine heating system to help starting in cold weather?
>
> Tks,
> SDF
> Boulder 80FC35
>
spray a little either. Mind started right up

[Tom Warner]

CAUTION! Spraying ether is alright for starting diesels but do not
just spray some in the intake manifold and THEN crank it. Wait until
it starts turning over and then spray a little into the intake. If
you just spray it in before starting to crank it, its possible to
bend a rod or worse. The ether needs to be sucked in at the correct
time.Ether is very volatile and literally explodes in the combustion chamber.

Tom Warner
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

At 10:14 PM 11/2/2005, you wrote:
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "shawn_fountain"
><shawn_fountain@h...> wrote:
> >
> > My generator does not start at around 55 degrees or lower. If it is
> > warm, the gen cranks right up. This model does not have glow plugs.
>If
> > I plug in a 110 volt radiator heater, the gen starts right up after a
> > couple of hours. Is this normal for this generator? If not, any
> > recommendations on a fix? All fluids and filters are new, and
> > injectors rebuilt summer before last.
> >
> > Related to this, has anyone used a propane engine heater? Or some 12
> > volt engine heating system to help starting in cold weather?
> >
> > Tks,
> > SDF
> > Boulder 80FC35
> >
>spray a little either. Mind started right up
>
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[Richard Hayden]

Gentlemen,
My last Wanderlodge was an '81 31' with the 12.5 kw Kohler diesel genset with a
Perkins engine and it had a single glow plug in the throat of the intake. When
preheated it would squirt a small amount of diesel into the intake and ignite it
going into the cylinders when start was attempted. The pre-heat was activated
by holding the stop switch down for about 15 to 30 seconds. My point is there
are not glow "plugs" but a single heater in the air intake.

Richard in Lake Stevens, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: Shawn Fountain
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Hard Starting 1980 Kohler Generator


Ralph checked it and he said no glow plugs.

----Original Message Follows----
From: Tom Warner >
Reply-To:
WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Hard Starting 1980 Kohler Generator
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:39:16 -0500

Are you sure you dont have glow plugs? My 1982 Perkins does. You
might want to check closer. They are on the side closest to the passenger.

Tom Warner
1982 FC35
Vernon center,NY

At 09:32 AM 11/2/2005, you wrote:
>My generator does not start at around 55 degrees or lower. If it is
>warm, the gen cranks right up. This model does not have glow plugs. If
>I plug in a 110 volt radiator heater, the gen starts right up after a
>couple of hours. Is this normal for this generator? If not, any
>recommendations on a fix? All fluids and filters are new, and
>injectors rebuilt summer before last.
>
>Related to this, has anyone used a propane engine heater? Or some 12
>volt engine heating system to help starting in cold weather?
>
>Tks,
>SDF
>Boulder 80FC35
>
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[Tom Warner]

Richard my Perkings has 4 glow plugs. and when you hold the start
switch down it activates them. I have never heard of a single glow
plug in an intake ever. How was the small amount of diesel "squirted"
into the intake?

Tom Warner
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY

At 12:33 AM 11/4/2005, you wrote:
>Gentlemen,
>My last Wanderlodge was an '81 31' with the 12.5 kw Kohler diesel
>genset with a Perkins engine and it had a single glow plug in the
>throat of the intake. When preheated it would squirt a small amount
>of diesel into the intake and ignite it going into the cylinders
>when start was attempted. The pre-heat was activated by holding the
>stop switch down for about 15 to 30 seconds. My point is there are
>not glow "plugs" but a single heater in the air intake.
>
>Richard in Lake Stevens, WA
> ----- Original Message -----
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> WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Hard Starting 1980 Kohler Generator
>
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> Ralph checked it and he said no glow plugs.
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Tom Warner >
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> Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Hard Starting 1980 Kohler Generator
> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:39:16 -0500
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> Are you sure you dont have glow plugs? My 1982 Perkins does. You
> might want to check closer. They are on the side closest to the passenger.
>
> Tom Warner
> 1982 FC35
> Vernon center,NY
>
> At 09:32 AM 11/2/2005, you wrote:
> >My generator does not start at around 55 degrees or lower. If it is
> >warm, the gen cranks right up. This model does not have glow plugs. If
> >I plug in a 110 volt radiator heater, the gen starts right up after a
> >couple of hours. Is this normal for this generator? If not, any
> >recommendations on a fix? All fluids and filters are new, and
> >injectors rebuilt summer before last.
> >
> >Related to this, has anyone used a propane engine heater? Or some 12
> >volt engine heating system to help starting in cold weather?
> >
> >Tks,
> >SDF
> >Boulder 80FC35
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