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03-04-2006, 14:35
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Anyone else out there had to deal with what Im going through? I have
Niagra Falls running through my bus... Almost ALL of the copper water pipes are busted...(I guess thats what I get for buying a unit from up north) I got 3 repaired today --after removing the water tank- and now there are more behind the stove-ice maker area!! I dont know how im going to get those out from behind there, and the shower area(SB)..... Any ideas????? HELP!!! Stephen 81 FC-33SB Plant City, FL |
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03-04-2006, 14:40
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Water Leaks!
If you can't get to the breaks (and the experts here will clarify that) then I
would look at snaking in new lines to bypass those unreachable buggers. Rob, Sue & Merlin 94 WLWB Quoting Stephen <share@...>: > > > > > Anyone else out there had to deal with what Im going through? I have > > Niagra Falls running through my bus... Almost ALL of the copper water > > pipes are busted...(I guess thats what I get for buying a unit from up > > north) I got 3 repaired today --after removing the water tank- and now > > there are more behind the stove-ice maker area!! I dont know how im > > going to get those out from behind there, and the shower area(SB)..... > > Any ideas????? HELP!!! > > > > > > Stephen > > 81 FC-33SB > > Plant City, FL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > > Recreational vehicles > > > Wanderlodge > > > Automotive maintenance > > > > > Recreational vehicle dealer > > > Used recreational vehicles > > > Automotive radiators > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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03-04-2006, 14:52
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Stephen, that is exactly what I am doing with my Bird now. It looks like I am
going to have to remove most of the pipes and replace them. The ones that had not burst were expanded so that none of the standard fittings will work. So, to do it right I have decided to replace the copper with PEX which is supposed to be resistant to bursting if frozen and it supposed to be much easier to work with in tight areas. I have some pictures on the WOO site where I have taken mine apart, but I still have to put the new in yet. I will be doing it in the next few days . . . one way or the other. Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online 1983 WL FC35RB FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:35 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! Anyone else out there had to deal with what Im going through? I have Niagra Falls running through my bus... Almost ALL of the copper water pipes are busted...(I guess thats what I get for buying a unit from up north) I got 3 repaired today --after removing the water tank- and now there are more behind the stove-ice maker area!! I dont know how im going to get those out from behind there, and the shower area(SB)..... Any ideas????? HELP!!! Stephen 81 FC-33SB Plant City, FL SPONSORED LINKS Recreational vehicles Wanderlodge Automotive maintenance Recreational vehicle dealer Used recreational vehicles Automotive radiators ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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03-04-2006, 16:57
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Water Leaks!
The fact that you both have frozen pipes begs the question of whether
either of you properly followed the procedures for winterizing your fresh, grey and black water systems that is outlined in your owners manuals? tom warner 1982 FC35 Vernon center,NY At 09:52 PM 3/4/2006, you wrote: >Stephen, that is exactly what I am doing with my Bird now. It looks >like I am going to have to remove most of the pipes and replace >them. The ones that had not burst were expanded so that none of the >standard fittings will work. So, to do it right I have decided to >replace the copper with PEX which is supposed to be resistant to >bursting if frozen and it supposed to be much easier to work with in >tight areas. > >I have some pictures on the WOO site where I have taken mine apart, >but I still have to put the new in yet. I will be doing it in the >next few days . . . one way or the other. > >Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC >Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online >1983 WL FC35RB > >FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME >Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:35 PM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! > > > Anyone else out there had to deal with what Im going through? I have > Niagra Falls running through my bus... Almost ALL of the copper water > pipes are busted...(I guess thats what I get for buying a unit from up > north) I got 3 repaired today --after removing the water tank- and now > there are more behind the stove-ice maker area!! I dont know how im > going to get those out from behind there, and the shower area(SB)..... > Any ideas????? HELP!!! > > > Stephen > 81 FC-33SB > Plant City, FL > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Recreational vehicles Wanderlodge Automotive > maintenance > Recreational vehicle dealer Used recreational > vehicles Automotive radiators > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > of Service. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > >SPONSORED LINKS ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...;vehi\ cles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=\ Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAUkCKkU7Dzhn_\ ObWmSYTw>Recreational >vehicles ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Wand...w2=Wa\ nderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Used+recre\ ational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z-8HJdysB3QLPj9U0JvqYQ>W\ anderlodge ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...3;veh\ icles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5\ =Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF4u_5wI8Pmy3\ 4cC1O9CxA>Automotive >maintenance ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recr...tiona\ l+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+deal\ er&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=z6_Xahae\ YHfELr6o72IW1A>Recreational >vehicle dealer ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Used...ional\ +vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+deale\ r&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=UGEY5km4L\ -kXbDI4ZSadEw>Used >recreational vehicles ><http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Auto...vehic\ les&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=U\ sed+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNVMmISsCWgTnM\ q_4GlXA>Automotive >radiators > > >---------- >YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group > "<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum>WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * > odgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > >---------- |
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03-04-2006, 17:24
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Water Leaks!
Bruce-
I know what your going through! I removed the water tank, and replaced all of them going forward (hot and cold) now, having to go forward still from the kitchen sink forward to bath. running into problems removing old pipes, they are wrapped in that blue heat strip wire, and zip tied to each other (and the propane lines). If I can get them untied, and slip them out one, by one, I think I will be ok. It's difficult behind the stove and shower. I need to find out how to get behind there... maybe take out the drawers under the stove top? Or the furnace below the drawers? Not sure.. If you have any suggestions..??? Stephen 81 FC-33 SB Plant City, Fl _____ From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Morris Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:52 PM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! Stephen, that is exactly what I am doing with my Bird now. It looks like I am going to have to remove most of the pipes and replace them. The ones that had not burst were expanded so that none of the standard fittings will work. So, to do it right I have decided to replace the copper with PEX which is supposed to be resistant to bursting if frozen and it supposed to be much easier to work with in tight areas. I have some pictures on the WOO site where I have taken mine apart, but I still have to put the new in yet. I will be doing it in the next few days . . . one way or the other. Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online 1983 WL FC35RB FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:35 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! Anyone else out there had to deal with what Im going through? I have Niagra Falls running through my bus... Almost ALL of the copper water pipes are busted...(I guess thats what I get for buying a unit from up north) I got 3 repaired today --after removing the water tank- and now there are more behind the stove-ice maker area!! I dont know how im going to get those out from behind there, and the shower area(SB)..... Any ideas????? HELP!!! Stephen 81 FC-33SB Plant City, FL SPONSORED LINKS Recreational vehicles Wanderlodge Automotive maintenance Recreational vehicle dealer Used recreational vehicles Automotive radiators ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Recreational <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+v ehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dea ler&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAU kCKkU7Dzhn_ObWmSYTw> vehicles Wanderlodge <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Wanderlodge&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2 =Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Use d+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z-8HJdysB3QLP j9U0JvqYQ> Automotive <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Automotive+maintenance&w1=Recreational+ vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+de aler&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF 4u_5wI8Pmy34cC1O9CxA> maintenance Recreational <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w1=Recreati onal+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehic le+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.s ig=z6_XahaeYHfELr6o72IW1A> vehicle dealer Used <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Used+recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreatio nal+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicl e+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.si g=UGEY5km4L-kXbDI4ZSadEw> recreational vehicles Automotive <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Automotive+radiators&w1=Recreational+ve hicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+deal er&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNV MmISsCWgTnMq_4GlXA> radiators _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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03-04-2006, 17:26
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Water Leaks!
Oh, and By the way-
I am replacing all my pipes with the PEX tubing also- Blue for cold, and Red for hot. No more Copper!!!!!!! Stephen 81 FC-33SB Plant City, Fl _____ From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Morris Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:52 PM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! Stephen, that is exactly what I am doing with my Bird now. It looks like I am going to have to remove most of the pipes and replace them. The ones that had not burst were expanded so that none of the standard fittings will work. So, to do it right I have decided to replace the copper with PEX which is supposed to be resistant to bursting if frozen and it supposed to be much easier to work with in tight areas. I have some pictures on the WOO site where I have taken mine apart, but I still have to put the new in yet. I will be doing it in the next few days . . . one way or the other. Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online 1983 WL FC35RB FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:35 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! Anyone else out there had to deal with what Im going through? I have Niagra Falls running through my bus... Almost ALL of the copper water pipes are busted...(I guess thats what I get for buying a unit from up north) I got 3 repaired today --after removing the water tank- and now there are more behind the stove-ice maker area!! I dont know how im going to get those out from behind there, and the shower area(SB)..... Any ideas????? HELP!!! Stephen 81 FC-33SB Plant City, FL SPONSORED LINKS Recreational vehicles Wanderlodge Automotive maintenance Recreational vehicle dealer Used recreational vehicles Automotive radiators ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Recreational <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreational+v ehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dea ler&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=DAU kCKkU7Dzhn_ObWmSYTw> vehicles Wanderlodge <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Wanderlodge&w1=Recreational+vehicles&w2 =Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w5=Use d+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=Z-8HJdysB3QLP j9U0JvqYQ> Automotive <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Automotive+maintenance&w1=Recreational+ vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+de aler&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=IF 4u_5wI8Pmy34cC1O9CxA> maintenance Recreational <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Recreational+vehicle+dealer&w1=Recreati onal+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehic le+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.s ig=z6_XahaeYHfELr6o72IW1A> vehicle dealer Used <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Used+recreational+vehicles&w1=Recreatio nal+vehicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicl e+dealer&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.si g=UGEY5km4L-kXbDI4ZSadEw> recreational vehicles Automotive <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Automotive+radiators&w1=Recreational+ve hicles&w2=Wanderlodge&w3=Automotive+maintenance&w4=Recreational+vehicle+deal er&w5=Used+recreational+vehicles&w6=Automotive+radiators&c=6&s=163&.sig=ePNV MmISsCWgTnMq_4GlXA> radiators _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WanderlodgeForum> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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03-04-2006, 20:04
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Stephen, at this point I have removed all of the drawers, backing that comes
out, and anything else I can find that is in front of my pipes. The zip ties you can cut with a diagonal cutter. The Blue heat tape in my Bird has already been cut (at least some of it) and the rest is unplugged for some reason. I haven't decided what if anything I am going to do about the heat tape. I keep heat in my Bird when it is cold, but of course that doesn't mean it is going to keep the areas that the pipes run in warm enough. I'll have to do some research and find out how the blue stuff works. I'm not familiar with it and from what I understand it is supposed to be thermostatically controlled by the dielectric in the tape itself which is somehow temperature sensitive. I guess if it is still available it might be a good idea to run it with the pipes. One of the tools I bought to hopefully help remove copper pipes is a ratcheting pipe cutter. It goes up to 1/2 inch, but they make a larger one for over 1/2 inch if I need it. With that I can slip it onto the pipe and then ratchet it with whatever room I have. It is self tightening and in time will cut through the pipe as well as a regular pipe cutter. I'm crossing my fingers that it will work like I think it will. We live and learn. Just have to keep remembering that we are having a good time and working on our Birds is fun and rewarding. Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online 1983 WL FC35RB FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:24 AM Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! Bruce- I know what your going through! I removed the water tank, and replaced all of them going forward (hot and cold) now, having to go forward still from the kitchen sink forward to bath. running into problems removing old pipes, they are wrapped in that blue heat strip wire, and zip tied to each other (and the propane lines). If I can get them untied, and slip them out one, by one, I think I will be ok. It's difficult behind the stove and shower. I need to find out how to get behind there... maybe take out the drawers under the stove top? Or the furnace below the drawers? Not sure.. If you have any suggestions..??? Stephen 81 FC-33 SB Plant City, Fl _____ From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Morris Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:52 PM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! Stephen, that is exactly what I am doing with my Bird now. It looks like I am going to have to remove most of the pipes and replace them. The ones that had not burst were expanded so that none of the standard fittings will work. So, to do it right I have decided to replace the copper with PEX which is supposed to be resistant to bursting if frozen and it supposed to be much easier to work with in tight areas. I have some pictures on the WOO site where I have taken mine apart, but I still have to put the new in yet. I will be doing it in the next few days . . . one way or the other. Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online 1983 WL FC35RB FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:35 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! Anyone else out there had to deal with what Im going through? I have Niagra Falls running through my bus... Almost ALL of the copper water pipes are busted...(I guess thats what I get for buying a unit from up north) I got 3 repaired today --after removing the water tank- and now there are more behind the stove-ice maker area!! I dont know how im going to get those out from behind there, and the shower area(SB)..... Any ideas????? HELP!!! Stephen 81 FC-33SB Plant City, FL SPONSORED LINKS Recreational vehicles Wanderlodge Automotive maintenance Recreational vehicle dealer Used recreational vehicles Automotive radiators ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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03-04-2006, 20:48
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Water Leaks!
with that pex tubing, you have to have a special crimper for the joints and
those babies are expensive. ernie-83pt40 in louisiana [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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03-05-2006, 02:34
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Water Leaks!
Well Tom, as I said earlier I don't winterize my Bird but I do keep it connected
to electricity and keep heat in it when it gets too cold. Maybe it's just a "Bruce" thing. I know that my Bird came from New Hampshire where it probably got cold enough to be a problem. All of the problems I have encountered did not occur on my watch, but I have to deal with them. I suspect the same thing is true of Bruce in Florida too since I believe he just bought the coach from someplace up north. So I guess you are right neither one of us followed the procedures as outlined in the Blue Box. Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online 1983 WL FC35RB FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Warner To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! The fact that you both have frozen pipes begs the question of whether either of you properly followed the procedures for winterizing your fresh, grey and black water systems that is outlined in your owners manuals? tom warner 1982 FC35 Vernon center,NY At 09:52 PM 3/4/2006, you wrote: >Stephen, that is exactly what I am doing with my Bird now. It looks >like I am going to have to remove most of the pipes and replace >them. The ones that had not burst were expanded so that none of the >standard fittings will work. So, to do it right I have decided to >replace the copper with PEX which is supposed to be resistant to >bursting if frozen and it supposed to be much easier to work with in >tight areas. > >I have some pictures on the WOO site where I have taken mine apart, >but I still have to put the new in yet. I will be doing it in the >next few days . . . one way or the other. > >Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC >Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online >1983 WL FC35RB > >FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME >Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen > To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:35 PM > Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! > > > Anyone else out there had to deal with what Im going through? I have > Niagra Falls running through my bus... Almost ALL of the copper water > pipes are busted...(I guess thats what I get for buying a unit from up > north) I got 3 repaired today --after removing the water tank- and now > there are more behind the stove-ice maker area!! I dont know how im > going to get those out from behind there, and the shower area(SB)..... > Any ideas????? HELP!!! > > > Stephen > 81 FC-33SB > Plant City, FL > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Recreational vehicles Wanderlodge Automotive > maintenance > Recreational vehicle dealer Used recreational > vehicles Automotive radiators > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "WanderlodgeForum" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > WanderlodgeForum-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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03-05-2006, 02:35
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Water Leaks!
Bruce-
I am getting rid of my blue wire, as I wont need it anymore here in Florida, and don't plan on going any ware that cold! Plus, I drain my pipes properly if I don't use my coach for awhile anyway. I will get into removing drawers, ECT this week. I had to take a break this weekend, as I spent Friday night, and all day Saturday removing the water tank and the old pipes behind there-and only to find out more broken pipes- somewhere- I will keep you updated. Just hope nothing behind the shower is busted! Stephen 81 FC-33SB Plant City, Fl _____ From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Morris Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 3:05 AM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! Stephen, at this point I have removed all of the drawers, backing that comes out, and anything else I can find that is in front of my pipes. The zip ties you can cut with a diagonal cutter. The Blue heat tape in my Bird has already been cut (at least some of it) and the rest is unplugged for some reason. I haven't decided what if anything I am going to do about the heat tape. I keep heat in my Bird when it is cold, but of course that doesn't mean it is going to keep the areas that the pipes run in warm enough. I'll have to do some research and find out how the blue stuff works. I'm not familiar with it and from what I understand it is supposed to be thermostatically controlled by the dielectric in the tape itself which is somehow temperature sensitive. I guess if it is still available it might be a good idea to run it with the pipes. One of the tools I bought to hopefully help remove copper pipes is a ratcheting pipe cutter. It goes up to 1/2 inch, but they make a larger one for over 1/2 inch if I need it. With that I can slip it onto the pipe and then ratchet it with whatever room I have. It is self tightening and in time will cut through the pipe as well as a regular pipe cutter. I'm crossing my fingers that it will work like I think it will. We live and learn. Just have to keep remembering that we are having a good time and working on our Birds is fun and rewarding. Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online 1983 WL FC35RB FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:24 AM Subject: RE: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! Bruce- I know what your going through! I removed the water tank, and replaced all of them going forward (hot and cold) now, having to go forward still from the kitchen sink forward to bath. running into problems removing old pipes, they are wrapped in that blue heat strip wire, and zip tied to each other (and the propane lines). If I can get them untied, and slip them out one, by one, I think I will be ok. It's difficult behind the stove and shower. I need to find out how to get behind there... maybe take out the drawers under the stove top? Or the furnace below the drawers? Not sure.. If you have any suggestions..??? Stephen 81 FC-33 SB Plant City, Fl _____ From: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Morris Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:52 PM To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! Stephen, that is exactly what I am doing with my Bird now. It looks like I am going to have to remove most of the pipes and replace them. The ones that had not burst were expanded so that none of the standard fittings will work. So, to do it right I have decided to replace the copper with PEX which is supposed to be resistant to bursting if frozen and it supposed to be much easier to work with in tight areas. I have some pictures on the WOO site where I have taken mine apart, but I still have to put the new in yet. I will be doing it in the next few days . . . one way or the other. Bruce Morris (919)872-7635 Raleigh, NC Webmaster - Wanderlodge Owners Online 1983 WL FC35RB FMCA: 7142s Ham Radio: KI4ME Vietnam Vet - 1966-67 'Doc' (Navy Corpsman) 3rd MarDiv ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:35 PM Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Water Leaks! Anyone else out there had to deal with what Im going through? I have Niagra Falls running through my bus... Almost ALL of the copper water pipes are busted...(I guess thats what I get for buying a unit from up north) I got 3 repaired today --after removing the water tank- and now there are more behind the stove-ice maker area!! I dont know how im going to get those out from behind there, and the shower area(SB)..... Any ideas????? HELP!!! 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