Report on the Craig's break down in Texas

[erniecarpet@...]

Glad to hear the Wallace is finally off the side of the road. When Brenda and
I came up on them, he was looking at the engine. Their toad was covered with
this transmission/ coolant mess. Shortly thereafter, Marvin and Doris
Middlebrooks came up- he had his gloves on. Rick and Terri McIntire were soon to
join
the crowd, followed By Bob and Judy Johannsen. We could have had a mini rally.
Ernie-83pt40 with a leaking turbo seal-- my own oily mess


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[Ralph L. Fullenwider]

Good evening to everyone:

An up date on Wallace and Faye Craig's 95PT42WB breaking down on the way
home from the LSB Rally in Borne Tx.

The transmission, somehow allowed coolant from the series 60 engine to
intermix with the transmission fluid turning the color to tan. Am not sure
what gave way at this point. A rebuilt transmission will be coming from
Allison for the replacement, at a cost I am sure.

Wallace and Faye are safe, Faye is home and Wallace is in San Antonio Tx at
a motel and the Coach is at Stewart Stephenson. It appears that the
transmission will have to be replaced.

Wallace asked me to "thank everyone" who stopped to lend a hand, for him
and as he learns more about the failure, the cause and so forth, he will
keep everyone apprised as to what happened.

Anyone with a Series 60 set up have any problems such as this? The Coach
was not under severe strain. Wallace had just passed a slower vehicle and
his speed got to 75 MPH then as he was slowing, the check engine light,
then the stop engine light came on in that order.

Anyway, until further news,,,,, and again many Thanks for the assistance
along the road from all the fellow Birders who stopped.

Safe travels,

Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm

[racin41@...]

It sounds like a cracked transmission oil cooler located in the radiator
allowed water to mix with the transmission fluid. Makes a real mess of the
cooling system & transmission.

Hopefully things will work out ok for Craig.

Bill & Rita in Roanoke, VA ( 30--dodged the big snow storm)
1987 FC-35


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[erniecarpet@...]

Mike, when I asked Wallace about his engine temp- he said it did not get hot.
He did stop on the wide side of the road when the stop engine lite came on.
When coolant and transmission fluid mixes, it comes out as a runny gel. That is
going to be a real headache to clean out. Ernie-83pt40 in texas


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[mbulriss]

Ralph,

If Wallace got coolant and tranny oil mixed, let's hope he shut the
engine down in time when the light came on and isn't looking at an
engine re-build also...... As it is, it is going to be a bear of a job
to flush out all the coolant system. Did Wallace say what the engine
temp was when the stop light came on?

Mike Bulriss
1983 PT40 "Stagecoach" - For Sale - Financing available
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
wrote:
>
> Good evening to everyone:
>
> An up date on Wallace and Faye Craig's 95PT42WB breaking down on the
way
> home from the LSB Rally in Borne Tx.
>
> The transmission, somehow allowed coolant from the series 60 engine to
> intermix with the transmission fluid turning the color to tan. Am
not sure
> what gave way at this point. A rebuilt transmission will be coming from
> Allison for the replacement, at a cost I am sure.
>
> Wallace and Faye are safe, Faye is home and Wallace is in San
Antonio Tx at
> a motel and the Coach is at Stewart Stephenson. It appears that the
> transmission will have to be replaced.
>
> Wallace asked me to "thank everyone" who stopped to lend a hand, for
him
> and as he learns more about the failure, the cause and so forth, he
will
> keep everyone apprised as to what happened.
>
> Anyone with a Series 60 set up have any problems such as this? The
Coach
> was not under severe strain. Wallace had just passed a slower
vehicle and
> his speed got to 75 MPH then as he was slowing, the check engine light,
> then the stop engine light came on in that order.
>
> Anyway, until further news,,,,, and again many Thanks for the
assistance
> along the road from all the fellow Birders who stopped.
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
> http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm
>

[Wallace Craig]

Ernie, not only does it make a hell of a mess, I just back home today after
authorizing Stewart & Stevens to install a factory reman Allison transmission.
S& S assures me that the current one is toast because of the fluids effect on
electronic components in the tranny. Also must pull and fix radiator; the cost
will use most of my lunch money for next 5 years. Just goes to show, no matter
how careful you are with inspections, problems can still arise. Can probably
reclaim coach next week; did get to have a jollly ride in a huge wrecker that
would have satisfied most noise freaks.
Walllace
erniecarpet@... wrote:
Mike, when I asked Wallace about his engine temp- he said it did not get hot.
He did stop on the wide side of the road when the stop engine lite came on.
When coolant and transmission fluid mixes, it comes out as a runny gel. That is
going to be a real headache to clean out. Ernie-83pt40 in texas


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[Wallace Craig]

Mike, engine temp was within normal range. All three warning lights going on at
once really gets your attention; yes I stopped immediately. No engine rebuild
as far as I know now, but must replace tranny with rebuilt one from Allison.
S&S in San Antanio
will get the coach back sometime next week after they also clean the radiator.
Wallace

mbulriss <mbulriss@...> wrote:
Ralph,

If Wallace got coolant and tranny oil mixed, let's hope he shut the
engine down in time when the light came on and isn't looking at an
engine re-build also...... As it is, it is going to be a bear of a job
to flush out all the coolant system. Did Wallace say what the engine
temp was when the stop light came on?

Mike Bulriss
1983 PT40 "Stagecoach" - For Sale - Financing available
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
San Antonio, TX



--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
wrote:
>
> Good evening to everyone:
>
> An up date on Wallace and Faye Craig's 95PT42WB breaking down on the
way
> home from the LSB Rally in Borne Tx.
>
> The transmission, somehow allowed coolant from the series 60 engine to
> intermix with the transmission fluid turning the color to tan. Am
not sure
> what gave way at this point. A rebuilt transmission will be coming from
> Allison for the replacement, at a cost I am sure.
>
> Wallace and Faye are safe, Faye is home and Wallace is in San
Antonio Tx at
> a motel and the Coach is at Stewart Stephenson. It appears that the
> transmission will have to be replaced.
>
> Wallace asked me to "thank everyone" who stopped to lend a hand, for
him
> and as he learns more about the failure, the cause and so forth, he
will
> keep everyone apprised as to what happened.
>
> Anyone with a Series 60 set up have any problems such as this? The
Coach
> was not under severe strain. Wallace had just passed a slower
vehicle and
> his speed got to 75 MPH then as he was slowing, the check engine light,
> then the stop engine light came on in that order.
>
> Anyway, until further news,,,,, and again many Thanks for the
assistance
> along the road from all the fellow Birders who stopped.
>
> Safe travels,
>
> Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
> http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm
>









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[Wallace Craig]

Bill, congratulations, you hit the nail on the head. Wallace Craig

racin41@... wrote: It sounds like a cracked transmission oil cooler located
in the radiator
allowed water to mix with the transmission fluid. Makes a real mess of the
cooling system & transmission.

Hopefully things will work out ok for Craig.

Bill & Rita in Roanoke, VA ( 30--dodged the big snow storm)
1987 FC-35


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[mbulriss]

Wallace,

If the coolant got in the tranny oil, then it's probable that the
tranny oil got in the circulating engine coolant also. Both fluids
would have been under pressure. They are going to flush the engine
cooling system out, aren't they?

Mike Bulriss
1983 PT40 "stagecoach" - For Sale - Financing available
1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
san Antonio, TX


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, Wallace Craig
wrote:
>
> Mike, engine temp was within normal range. All three warning lights
going on at once really gets your attention; yes I stopped
immediately. No engine rebuild as far as I know now, but must replace
tranny with rebuilt one from Allison. S&S in San Antanio
> will get the coach back sometime next week after they also clean
the radiator.
> Wallace
>
> mbulriss <mbulriss@y...> wrote:
> Ralph,
>
> If Wallace got coolant and tranny oil mixed, let's hope he shut the
> engine down in time when the light came on and isn't looking at an
> engine re-build also...... As it is, it is going to be a bear of a job
> to flush out all the coolant system. Did Wallace say what the engine
> temp was when the stop light came on?
>
> Mike Bulriss
> 1983 PT40 "Stagecoach" - For Sale - Financing available
> 1991 WB40 "Texas Minivan"
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph L. Fullenwider"
> wrote:
> >
> > Good evening to everyone:
> >
> > An up date on Wallace and Faye Craig's 95PT42WB breaking down on the
> way
> > home from the LSB Rally in Borne Tx.
> >
> > The transmission, somehow allowed coolant from the series 60
engine to
> > intermix with the transmission fluid turning the color to tan. Am
> not sure
> > what gave way at this point. A rebuilt transmission will be coming
from
> > Allison for the replacement, at a cost I am sure.
> >
> > Wallace and Faye are safe, Faye is home and Wallace is in San
> Antonio Tx at
> > a motel and the Coach is at Stewart Stephenson. It appears that the
> > transmission will have to be replaced.
> >
> > Wallace asked me to "thank everyone" who stopped to lend a hand, for
> him
> > and as he learns more about the failure, the cause and so forth, he
> will
> > keep everyone apprised as to what happened.
> >
> > Anyone with a Series 60 set up have any problems such as this? The
> Coach
> > was not under severe strain. Wallace had just passed a slower
> vehicle and
> > his speed got to 75 MPH then as he was slowing, the check engine
light,
> > then the stop engine light came on in that order.
> >
> > Anyway, until further news,,,,, and again many Thanks for the
> assistance
> > along the road from all the fellow Birders who stopped.
> >
> > Safe travels,
> >
> > Ralph and Charolette Fullenwider
> > Ralph's RV Solutions, Duncan, Oklahoma
> > http://home.swbell.net/rlf47/index.htm
> >
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[erniecarpet@...]

Yikes! Glad you are home, Wallace. I bet that the nite you stayed in the
coach was not a very restful one. Ernie, going to Snyder to work without coach


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