Lug nut torque

[ttikalsky]

I had new tires installed last July and I'm sure they said the wheels
were torqued to 250 ft lbs and the manual states 375-425. I prefer to
do things myself when possible so I am looking for some suggestions
what other owners do. Any suggestions for decent impact wrenchs,
torque stick and procedures are appreciated.

I am considering harbor freights 1" Central Pneumatic wrench ITEM
92622-2VGA :
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/di...mber=92622

and this torque stick :
http://www.torquestick.com/cart/customer...t=1&page=1

Troy
1983 FC 33
Waconia, MN

[Jim Owens]

Troy,

I remember a discusion some time back about the X12 (times 12) wrench.
It's a torque multiplier that fits over the lug nut and allows
someone to loosen/tighten lugnuts with a 1/2" drive ratchet.
They're quite expensive, $795.00, but maybe cheaper than a 1" air
impact wrench. As I remember, it also allowed the use of 1/2" drive
torque wrench rather than a five foot lever to achieve the desired
torque.

Didn't see a link on this forumm, you might check on the other yahoo
wanderlodge site or google it. Portable, compact and it doesn't
require a high volume compressor (actually it doesn't require a
compressor at all).

Just another option to consider.

Jim Owens
77 FC33SB (Gas)
Lake of the Ozarks, MO

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ttikalsky"
wrote:
>
> I had new tires installed last July and I'm sure they said the
wheels
> were torqued to 250 ft lbs and the manual states 375-425. I prefer
to
> do things myself when possible so I am looking for some suggestions
> what other owners do. Any suggestions for decent impact wrenchs,
> torque stick and procedures are appreciated.
>
> I am considering harbor freights 1" Central Pneumatic wrench ITEM
> 92622-2VGA :
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?
Itemnumber=92622
>
> and this torque stick :
> http://www.torquestick.com/cart/customer/product.php?
productid=151&cat=1&page=1
>
> Troy
> 1983 FC 33
> Waconia, MN
>

[Jim Owens]

Troy,

http://www.times12.com/

Jim

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ttikalsky"
wrote:
>
> I had new tires installed last July and I'm sure they said the
wheels
> were torqued to 250 ft lbs and the manual states 375-425. I prefer
to
> do things myself when possible so I am looking for some suggestions
> what other owners do. Any suggestions for decent impact wrenchs,
> torque stick and procedures are appreciated.
>
> I am considering harbor freights 1" Central Pneumatic wrench ITEM
> 92622-2VGA :
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?
Itemnumber=92622
>
> and this torque stick :
> http://www.torquestick.com/cart/customer/product.php?
productid=151&cat=1&page=1
>
> Troy
> 1983 FC 33
> Waconia, MN
>

[Jim Owens]

Troy,

One more alternative, from the torque stick website

http://www.torquestick.com/cart/customer/product.php?
productid=43&cat=0&page=

Jim

--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Owens"
wrote:
>
> Troy,
>
> http://www.times12.com/
>
> Jim
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ttikalsky"
> wrote:
> >
> > I had new tires installed last July and I'm sure they said the
> wheels
> > were torqued to 250 ft lbs and the manual states 375-425. I
prefer
> to
> > do things myself when possible so I am looking for some
suggestions
> > what other owners do. Any suggestions for decent impact wrenchs,
> > torque stick and procedures are appreciated.
> >
> > I am considering harbor freights 1" Central Pneumatic wrench ITEM
> > 92622-2VGA :
> > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?
> Itemnumber=92622
> >
> > and this torque stick :
> > http://www.torquestick.com/cart/customer/product.php?
> productid=151&cat=1&page=1
> >
> > Troy
> > 1983 FC 33
> > Waconia, MN
> >
>

[Tom Warner]

Unless you have a large air compressor you will not be able to use
harbor freights torque wrench. That impact wrench requires a
compressor that will deliver 12-14 Cu ft/minute at 100PSI. Forget
about using it.
I have a torque multiplier X12 and some Snapon torque wrenches. Its
easy to take the lug nuts off and on and torque them to the correct
torque. I use anti-seize on the threads and torque to 425 ft #.

tom warner
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY




At 05:45 PM 2/28/2006, you wrote:
>I had new tires installed last July and I'm sure they said the wheels
>were torqued to 250 ft lbs and the manual states 375-425. I prefer to
>do things myself when possible so I am looking for some suggestions
>what other owners do. Any suggestions for decent impact wrenchs,
>torque stick and procedures are appreciated.
>
>I am considering harbor freights 1" Central Pneumatic wrench ITEM
>92622-2VGA :
><http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/di...mber=92622>http://\
.harbowwwrfreight<http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/di...mnumb\
er=92622>.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92622
>
>and this torque stick :
><http://www.torquestick.com/cart/customer...page=\
1>http://www.torquestick.com/cart/customer...page=\
1
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Dan Darst]

Regarding the impact wrench.

Ingersoll Rand 2135Ti
half inch drive
625 foot pounds of torque clock wise
1000 foot pounds counter clock wise
weighs about 3.95 pounds (the socket weighs as much as the wrench)
7 vane titanium motor
10,000 rpm free speed
I have removed all wheels from a car without the air compressor cycling
has four torque settings, I skip the torque wrench procedure
less than 250 dollars, no brainer.
removed all nuts from my bus that were put on with my brothers one inch
drive, D handled, IR behemoth.

dandarst86fc35rbhuntleyil.

>From: "ttikalsky"
>Reply-To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Lug nut torque
>Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:45:33 -0000
>
>I had new tires installed last July and I'm sure they said the wheels
>were torqued to 250 ft lbs and the manual states 375-425. I prefer to
>do things myself when possible so I am looking for some suggestions
>what other owners do. Any suggestions for decent impact wrenchs,
>torque stick and procedures are appreciated.
>
>I am considering harbor freights 1" Central Pneumatic wrench ITEM
>92622-2VGA :
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/di...mber=92622
>
>and this torque stick :
>http://www.torquestick.com/cart/customer...t=1&page=1
>
>
>
>
>

[Jeff Miller]

I carry the X12 in my coach, it'll snap a stud before it'll give up,
I believe that it is rated for 3,500ft-lbs max. Good wrench, but
heavy (I think the X12 is 17lbs) and slow. I use an air rachet (not
impact) to run the nuts off once loose, and on before final torquing.
I also carry a pre-set click-type torque wrench, set to 1/10th (45ft-
lbs) so that I can use it with the X12, it came that way, nice for
final-torque on the nuts. Remember that the left nuts are left-hand-
thread, so your stuff will have to be reverseable, lubricated torque
is reduced from dry-thread torque, and be sure to keep the wheel-hub
mating surface clean and dry as well as the ball-seat on the nuts,
lubrication can be on the threads ONLY.

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Owens"
wrote:
>
> Troy,
>
> I remember a discusion some time back about the X12 (times 12)
wrench.
> It's a torque multiplier that fits over the lug nut and allows
> someone to loosen/tighten lugnuts with a 1/2" drive ratchet.
> They're quite expensive, $795.00, but maybe cheaper than a 1" air
> impact wrench. As I remember, it also allowed the use of 1/2" drive
> torque wrench rather than a five foot lever to achieve the desired
> torque.
>
> Didn't see a link on this forumm, you might check on the other
yahoo
> wanderlodge site or google it. Portable, compact and it doesn't
> require a high volume compressor (actually it doesn't require a
> compressor at all).
>
> Just another option to consider.
>
> Jim Owens
> 77 FC33SB (Gas)
> Lake of the Ozarks, MO
>
> --- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ttikalsky"
> wrote:
> >
> > I had new tires installed last July and I'm sure they said the
> wheels
> > were torqued to 250 ft lbs and the manual states 375-425. I
prefer
> to
> > do things myself when possible so I am looking for some
suggestions
> > what other owners do. Any suggestions for decent impact wrenchs,
> > torque stick and procedures are appreciated.
> >
> > I am considering harbor freights 1" Central Pneumatic wrench ITEM
> > 92622-2VGA :
> > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?
> Itemnumber=92622
> >
> > and this torque stick :
> > http://www.torquestick.com/cart/customer/product.php?
> productid=151&cat=1&page=1
> >
> > Troy
> > 1983 FC 33
> > Waconia, MN
> >
>

[Jeff Miller]

Also on the X12 site if they still have it, buy the little dog-leg
thing that you put on the nut if the inner nut comes loose so that you
can get the nuts off, might save your can some time out there if an
outer nut gets stuck on an inner nut (ball-seat type, mid-2001 and
older I believe).

- Jeff Miller
in Holland, MI


--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
wrote:
>
> I carry the X12 in my coach <<snip>>

[Tom Warner]

I added one more part to what Jeff noted. The special socket to
hammer over the broken stud so it can be backed out. Without it you
are just plan SOL if you break a stud and dont have one. Last time I
snapped a stud had a fellow that specializes in wheel service come
and he charged me $70 to remove it. I bought a new socket the next
day for $40. If studs have been in for a long time or have been in
the salt takes over a 1000 ft # to break them loose and the X12 will
do it or break them off. Carry a few extra inner and outer studs
with you they are cheap insurance if you need them.

Tom Warner
1982 FC35
Vernon Center,NY


At 09:35 PM 2/28/2006, you wrote:
>Also on the X12 site if they still have it, buy the little dog-leg
>thing that you put on the nut if the inner nut comes loose so that you
>can get the nuts off, might save your can some time out there if an
>outer nut gets stuck on an inner nut (ball-seat type, mid-2001 and
>older I believe).
>
>- Jeff Miller
>in Holland, MI
>
>
>--- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Miller"
>wrote:
> >
> > I carry the X12 in my coach <<snip>>
>
>
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Troy
Before I went to the expense od buying a 1" impact that you bus air
will not power. You will need a compressor that can handle a 3/4" air
line and light wieght for that gun is some where around 30 to 40
pounds. You manual mentioned 375- 425lbs/ft torque as oppossed to
the shop doing them at 250/ Several factors come into play 1. What
type wheels did it have when it left the plant in 1983. 2. Have the
wheels always been torgued. If it left with steel wheels and you have
durabright now that will change the torgue value. Each time a nut is
tightend onto it stude if it is over torqued two things happen it
over sress the stud hence broken studes and the second is to much
stress on the surronding area. I would contact the wheel manufacture
to find out what there torque value is, the talk to the "local tool
man about a good 1/2 torque inch and a torque multiplier like was
previous sugested. If you are going to pull your own tires the tool
man can set you up with a high quality impact that will do the job
with your impact. When I was with working people I could break
tractor lugs loose with by 1/2 in IR244. Did not Like to do it all
the time due to the beating it put on the gun.
Hugh
-- In WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com, "ttikalsky"
wrote:
>
> I had new tires installed last July and I'm sure they said the
wheels
> were torqued to 250 ft lbs and the manual states 375-425. I prefer
to
> do things myself when possible so I am looking for some suggestions
> what other owners do. Any suggestions for decent impact wrenchs,
> torque stick and procedures are appreciated.
>
> I am considering harbor freights 1" Central Pneumatic wrench ITEM
> 92622-2VGA :
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?
Itemnumber=92622
>
> and this torque stick :
> http://www.torquestick.com/cart/customer/product.php?
productid=151&cat=1&page=1
>
> Troy
> 1983 FC 33
> Waconia, MN
>