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07-08-2009, 02:02
Post: #110
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Ok, While we're on the subject. How do you guys go about rotating tires.
Considering Shane's post on the drive axle. If you rotate the steers to the back
you only are dealing with two tires at at time. I can see taking them to the
tag. Greg was talking about rotating every two years and putting the newest
tires always on the steer. If you do that what do you do. But the tires taken
off of the steer axle as inner duals or do you put them on one side at a time.

As to my Goodyear take offs. I'll have to see what is what on my bus. I think
I will likely put these G159's on the tag. Take the tags off which I believe
are G149's then I might keep one as a spare. Haven't thought that fair ahead.
I'll have at least one maybe two decent tires to find a home for.







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> thanks Shane. I have 24.5 on the drive and tag. and 22.5 on the steer. don't
know why, bus came that way. I just got home from NC and will be looking at
different price ranges.
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> Ernie Ekberg
> 83PT40
> Wanderlodge
> Weatherford, Tx
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/erni...gandrepair
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> --- On Tue, 7/7/09, sfedeli3 <sfedeli3@...> wrote:
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> From: sfedeli3 <sfedeli3@...>
> Subject: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
> To: WanderlodgeForum@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 6:18 PM
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> To answer your question Ernie- NO!
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> The entire drive axle should be replaced as a set of 4. At a minimum each side
of the drive axle should be a matched pair, but if the two pairs differ in age
and size, you risk heating up the differential on a long trip.
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> If you're on a limited budget, skimp on the tags. Go to a tour bus operator
and see if they will sell you a set of used steer axle Michelin's with 15-20K
miles on them. As long as the date code is within the past 2 years, it's a
pretty safe bet that they will work just fine.
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> If Heckman doesn't have a use for his used G-159's, I'll gladly bring them out
in October when we go to Balloon Fest. We can toss them up on Archie's roof and
he'll get them to you.
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> Shane Fedeli
> 85PT40
> Hershey, PA
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> . --- In WanderlodgeForum@ yahoogroups. com, Ernie Ekberg wrote:
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> > So if you are on a fixed- like not much income, can you replace the inner
drive with the same kind and brand of tire?
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> > Ernie Ekberg
> > 83PT40
> > Wanderlodge
> > Weatherford, Tx
> > http://autos. groups.yahoo. com/group/ erniesremodeling andrepair
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> > --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Pete Masterson wrote:
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> > Subject: Re: [WanderlodgeForum] Re: tires
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> > Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 11:28 AM
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> > There should be no problem mixing metric (315/80) with 12R tires, if each
axle carries the same size/type tire. i.e. replacing tires as you suggest should
be no problem.
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> > The only concern is that the 315s, which are about .4 inches wider than the
12R may not have sufficient clearance on the duals ... but that's something to
discuss with the tire installer -- I note that several 'bird owners have moved
to the metric size tires without problems.
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bias ply tires and radials on the same vehicle can result in some poor handling
characteristics. 
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> > '95 Blue Bird Wanderlodge WBDA 42
> > El Sobrante CA
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> > Hi Guys,  Ya have me concerned.  I have the GY 159  12R22.5 on my coach.
 About three years old, maybe less then 10k miles.  I want to replace them for
peace of mind if for no other reason.  My plan is to do the steer tires now and
then next year  the drives and the following the tag.  I just can't swing the
entire set of 8 at one shot.   My question is one of the fellow replaced his 12R
with 315/80/R 22.5 and feels the larger tires a significant benefit.  Sounds
reasonable.   Since I am not doing all 8 at one time do you see a problem mixing
the different size tires as I proceed with my plan?  Obviously when I do the
drive axle I would not mix sizes there.  Anyone see a problem with either the
larger size or the mixing as I go.  Thanks   I intend to buy Michelin ZXA2
tires.  
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> > Shippensburg Pa
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> > Your right MICHELIN is better.
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> > The last time the subject about tires on the forum was discussed it got
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have problems with Mexican painters. Etc.
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can get for my $$$$$$"SSSSSSS
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> > Bridgstone is owned by Michelin, so for a few more bucks I'd go Michelin.
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> > Firestone makes a tire for Greyhound that has an extra strong sidewall, due
to the fact that the Dogs pull up to the curb several times a day and scuffing
is a problem.
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> > Your rotation schedule sounds good. I've been doing that every year since
I've owned my coach. Two new steers yearly, In another year I'll have nothing
older that 4 years on the bird. With good trade in value to boot.
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lots of ideas, see if your tire guy will not take the old tires that have good
tread and not too old in on trade, don't just give them up they are worth
something,
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> > Local truckers and farmers would probably give $100 bucks or more for a tire
with good tread that are only three or four years old.
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> > There are other choices as well, Kumho & Toyo are as good as the other
brands.
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is is me?
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> > I'm now throughly confused. I have Michelins all the way around on my 94 WB.
Steer tires 4 years old. Drive tires 5 years old, Tag tires 6 years old. No
cracks, good tread. I was wanting to replace my steers and had figured on two
Goodyears for thew steers and moving the michelins to the Drive and the best of
the drives to the Tag.
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Prevost Tour Bus and the other has a BB) recommends Goodyears, Firestones and
Bridgestones in that order. Does not recommend Michelins. Prices:
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